Ziarats of Imams upto 20th

[berasiawala]

Would like to know where all the Imams after Imam Jaffar Sadiq are buried i.e upto the 20th Imam.
List of Imams of Dawoodi Bohra

1. Hasan ibn Ali - Medina, Saudi Arabia
2. Husain ibn Ali - Karbala, Iraq
3. Ali ibn Husain - Medina, Saudi Arabia
4. Mohd. ul Bakir ibn Ali - Medina, Saudi Arabia
5. Jafer us Sadiq ibn Mohd ul Bakir - Medina Saudi Arabia
6. Ismail ibn Jafer
7. Mohammad ibn Ismail
8. Abdullah ibn Mohammad
9. Ahmed ibn Abdullah
10. Husain ibn Ahmed (Abdullah)
11. Abdullah Al Mehdi ibn Husain
12. Mohammed ul Qaim ibn Abdullah
13. Ismail Al Mansoor ibn Mohammed
14. Maad‐nil Muiz ibn Ismail Al Mansoor
15. Nizare nil Aziz ibn Moad‐al Moiz
16. Husainil Hakim ibn Nizare‐al Aziz
17. Ali‐al Zahir ibn Husain‐al Hakim
18. Maad‐al Mustansir ibn Ali ai Zahir
19. Ahmed al Mustali ibn Maadenil Mustansir
20. Mansuril Amir ibn Ahmed Al mustai

[berasiawala]

Surprisingly no one has given any information on location of ziarats of Imams.
We know the ziarat places of some Nabis and all the dai's but how come we are not aware about the Imams after Imam Jaffer Sadiq

[asad]

Surprisingly no one has given any information on location of ziarats of Imams.
We know the ziarat places of some Nabis and all the dai's but how come we are not aware about the Imams after Imam Jaffer Sadiq

I have heard that their is a room near Ras al Husain Cairo where its said that few Fatimi Imams and their belongings are burried, dont know the names or authenticity of the claim.

Moreover just go to Raudat Tahera and do ziyarat you can have sawab of all Imams Plus Hajj all in one, so why to be bothered with Imams and where they are buried.

[badrijanab]

Surprisingly no one has given any information on location of ziarats of Imams.
We know the ziarat places of some Nabis and all the dai's but how come we are not aware about the Imams after Imam Jaffer Sadiq

I have heard that their is a room near Ras al Husain Cairo where its said that few Fatimi Imams and their belongings are burried, dont know the names or authenticity of the claim.

Moreover just go to Raudat Tahera and do ziyarat you can have sawab of all Imams Plus Hajj all in one, so why to be bothered with Imams and where they are buried.

@Asad: Have Kothar ever made such claims? If yes, please prove. If no, then why falsely accuse?

[asad]

BadriJanab,

Kothar propagates that kissing Syedna's feet is equal to Hajj as he is natiqe quran and haqiqi kaaba, this has been relayed in different waez by kothar appointed aamils that they can go to Raudat Tahera if they cant go to Hajj.

If People can have hajj sawab from ziyarat and qadambosi than why cant they have the sawab of Imam's ziyarat doing the same. and its a common line in almost all waez that if you want to do deedar of panjatan look at SMB and now Mansoos also.

[badrijanab]

BadriJanab,

Kothar propagates that kissing Syedna's feet is equal to Hajj as he is natiqe quran and haqiqi kaaba, this has been relayed in different waez by kothar appointed aamils that they can go to Raudat Tahera if they cant go to Hajj.

If People can have hajj sawab from ziyarat and qadambosi than why cant they have the sawab of Imam's ziyarat doing the same. and its a common line in almost all waez that if you want to do deedar of panjatan look at SMB and now Mansoos also.

@Adam and Progticide: Can you prove above claims if ever made by any rightful Dai Mutlaq from 1st till 46th?

Jamat of Bohra Youth should file a suit against Kothar for their false claims and conning common mumineen.

[murtaza2152]

Jamat of Bohra Youth should file a suit against Kothar for
their false claims and conning common mumineen.

Go Ahead

[porus]

Surprisingly no one has given any information on location of ziarats of Imams.
We know the ziarat places of some Nabis and all the dai's but how come we are not aware about the Imams after Imam Jaffer Sadiq

Burial sites of the Imams are listed in the 'Bu Sahiba Sahifa' on pages 614 and 615. I am surprised you do not know this. Look it up. You should have access to it if you are a Bohra. For others, here is the list of burial sites.

1. Imam Hasan - Madina
2. Imam Husain - Karbala
3 - 6. Imam Zainul Abideen until Imam Ismail - Madina
7. Imam Muhammad - Farganah
8. Imam Abdullah al-Mastoor - Salmiyah
9. Imam Ahmed al-Mastoor - Salmiyah
10. Imam Husain al-Mastoor - Askar-Makram
11 - 13. Imam al-Mahdi until Imam al-Mansoor - al-Mahdiyyah
14 - 20. Imam al-Moiz until Imam al-Aamir - Cairo

[shanu_scorpio]

hi
thank u porus for the information about the burial location of the imams but i wanted to know why there are no dates available in the calender relating to there birth or death or shahadat and why are they not celebrated or mourned incase of shahadat's and to my surprise i came to know that jamaat does not know the birth date of Ht imam hussain a.s i would be thank full if u could answer my questions.

[AbdeSMBSMS]

BadriJanab,

Kothar propagates that kissing Syedna's feet is equal to Hajj as he is natiqe quran and haqiqi kaaba, this has been relayed in different waez by kothar appointed aamils that they can go to Raudat Tahera if they cant go to Hajj.

If People can have hajj sawab from ziyarat and qadambosi than why cant they have the sawab of Imam's ziyarat doing the same. and its a common line in almost all waez that if you want to do deedar of panjatan look at SMB and now Mansoos also.

I want to correct you Qadambosi of Syedna ( tus) is an entrance to Jannat & Doing Salam to Syedna ( tus) is as doing Hajj & ziyarat of Imams. as Syedna ( tus) is Bolta Quran, Quran e Natik, & offcourse Haqiqi Kaaba.
Yeah Rozat Tahera is a Kaaba Only as tawaaf is performed around Kaaba in Mecca so tawaaf can be performed around the Qubba Mubarak of Taher Maula ( R.A.) in Mumbai also.
Fact is a Fact we do deedar of Panjatan ( A.S.) in Aqamaula ( tus ) & his Mansoos ( tus).
Any more doubts u want to clarify you can ask as i am always ready to guide people who are misguided Or delibirately chosen wrong path

[SBM]

With the above post you proved you need to see a Psychiatrist, I am sure members on this forum can contribute to treat your illness. You are danger to the society n and yourself .please get quick help

[hasim]

Could somebody tells me were the imams were political rulers or religious head figures

[Al Zulfiqar]

, I am sure members on this forum can contribute to treat your illness....

brother sbm,

i would actually like to contribute to a fund which can drive this idiot even more insane. in fact, i would like to contribute to a special R&D programme which can drive this entire community of idiots into total and utter insanity. can you please make enquiries with CIA, FBI and NSA if such a programme can be created?

[AbdeSMBSMS]

Could somebody tells me were the imams were political rulers or religious head figures

What are u saying is your brain in your appropriate position.
In the Zamaan of Imams there was nothing like politics. Imam were a Light of Allah ( Khuda Na Noor).Same as Dr. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb ( tus ).

[SBM]

Could somebody tells me were the imams were political rulers or religious head figures

What are u saying is your brain in your appropriate position.
In the Zamaan of Imams there was nothing like politics. Imam were a Light of Allah ( Khuda Na Noor).Same as Dr. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb ( tus ).

So what is Sydena Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb is doing with MODI and why he keeps on inviting and give SHAWLS to all these politicians, WHY IS HE MIXING AND SHAKING HANDS WITH POLITICIANS? let us hear your EDUCATED argument

[humanbeing]

I want to correct you Qadambosi of Syedna ( tus) is an entrance to Jannat & Doing Salam to Syedna ( tus) is as doing Hajj & ziyarat of Imams. as Syedna ( tus) is Bolta Quran, Quran e Natik, & offcourse Haqiqi Kaaba.
Yeah Rozat Tahera is a Kaaba Only as tawaaf is performed around Kaaba in Mecca so tawaaf can be performed around the Qubba Mubarak of Taher Maula ( R.A.) in Mumbai also.
Fact is a Fact we do deedar of Panjatan ( A.S.) in Aqamaula ( tus ) & his Mansoos ( tus).
Any more doubts u want to clarify you can ask as i am always ready to guide people who are misguided Or delibirately chosen wrong path

This guy is cute !

[Bohra spring]

want to correct you Qadambosi of Syedna ( tus) is an entrance to Jannat & Doing Salam to Syedna ( tus) is as doing Hajj & ziyarat of Imams. as Syedna ( tus) is Bolta Quran, Quran e Natik, & offcourse Haqiqi Kaaba.
Yeah Rozat Tahera is a Kaaba Only as tawaaf is performed around Kaaba in Mecca so tawaaf can be performed around the Qubba Mubarak of Taher Maula ( R.A.) in Mumbai also.
Fact is a Fact we do deedar of Panjatan ( A.S.) in Aqamaula ( tus ) & his Mansoos ( tus).
Any more doubts u want to clarify you can ask as i am always ready to guide people who are misguided Or delibirately chosen wrong path

Thanks for being so honest ...I don't think this is funny, your statements show complete disregard for the Islamic mission and insult to the hard work of our founding ProphetSAW and Ahlul Bayt ...you must be many who think like this...do we bother bringing you back, or should we live you a drift. May Allah forgive you that is the best i can offer, I am sorry for the state you are in , and wonder with amazement the crafting that turned you into such deviants. Such pathetic statements if made in strict Islamic countries could land you with death sentence.

[think]

bohri spring, there is a whole group that thinks like him. how many will you put on the death row?

[Bohra spring]

bohri spring, there is a whole group that thinks like him. how many will you put on the death row?

We should start by sorting out the artisans who sow these seeds of distortion...this is pure idol worshipping , and admittance of highest arrogance. The tone of this abde raises shivers and blood boils.

There is a core group that most likely is a product of years of training from Jamia and sabaqs. These artisans then go around as they spread their tentacles preaching through sabaqs and leading talims, madrassa , socialise with women and youth. They marry girls of likely thoughts, who then start their women associations They are more lethal than Amils who are busy administrators and visible. They are endemic.

Being ramazan I cannot wish them physical harm , but we can reject their ideas and tell our kids and womenfolk to stay away from these evil and if they have already poisoned their Islamic beliefs we should try repairing it. Hardwork but that is every true Muslims duty to protect the true faith.

[zinger]

BadriJanab,

Kothar propagates that kissing Syedna's feet is equal to Hajj as he is natiqe quran and haqiqi kaaba, this has been relayed in different waez by kothar appointed aamils that they can go to Raudat Tahera if they cant go to Hajj.

If People can have hajj sawab from ziyarat and qadambosi than why cant they have the sawab of Imam's ziyarat doing the same. and its a common line in almost all waez that if you want to do deedar of panjatan look at SMB and now Mansoos also.

I want to correct you Qadambosi of Syedna ( tus) is an entrance to Jannat & Doing Salam to Syedna ( tus) is as doing Hajj & ziyarat of Imams. as Syedna ( tus) is Bolta Quran, Quran e Natik, & offcourse Haqiqi Kaaba.
Yeah Rozat Tahera is a Kaaba Only as tawaaf is performed around Kaaba in Mecca so tawaaf can be performed around the Qubba Mubarak of Taher Maula ( R.A.) in Mumbai also.
Fact is a Fact we do deedar of Panjatan ( A.S.) in Aqamaula ( tus ) & his Mansoos ( tus).
Any more doubts u want to clarify you can ask as i am always ready to guide people who are misguided Or delibirately chosen wrong path

Abde bhai, i really, REALLY REALLY hope that you have made these comments in sarcasm.

I am as much a believer and follower of Aqa Maula as anyone outside this forum, but i do find your statements to be extremely bizzarre.

i sincerely hope you were being sarcastic about this and clarify your stand please.

If you claim to be a Dawoodi Bohra and yet stand by your statement, then i believe that you are a reformist troll, looking to give our community a bad name. please clarify

[zinger]

A P.S. to the above statement

I dont think any Dawoodi Bohra, traditional or reformist, would make a claim like this.

So either you are completely misguided, or are indeed insane or are a reformist stooge or are being sarcastic

[humanbeing]

I dont think any Dawoodi Bohra, traditional or reformist, would make a claim like this.
So either you are completely misguided, or are indeed insane or are a reformist stooge or are being sarcastic

Well then ! Amils of Kothar must be informed, they are the ones passing off this tall claims in safe havens of their markaz, without a sound of objection from dumb audience.

[Bohra spring]

Zinger your stand on this issue is appreciated .

[Adam]

The Places of burial and Dates are available in the "Everyday Haftis" in the back, especially the new ones with 3 parts.

It's also available in the Hafti called the "Bu Saheba Hafti", that is also in the last few pages.

(PLACES mentioned by Porus are correct).

[Adam]

"Bu Saheba Hafti" aka "Sahifa tus Salat wal Ibadat"

[genesis]

To all the distinguished members above who have responded to the ABDE. Lets leave the space to brother ADAM to do the honours and give us his valuable response, comments and opinion on the ABDE's post. He's trying his best to steer clear of the new dimension in this thread. Over to you, Adam bhai.

[berasiawala]

Yes its in the saifa as mentioned in the above posts. Thanks for the info
The Urs of all the imams are not observed as the urs of all the dai's. Any reason for that?
Secondly are the ziarats of all the imams especially from 6th to 20th are covered in the ziarat tours to the places mentioned. ?
Anyone having information please answer

[berasiawala]

Can anyone answer the above questions about the urs and whether the ziararts of all the imams included in the bohra ziarat tours.
thanks

[ghulam muhammed]

Can anyone answer the above questions about the urs and whether the ziararts of all the imams included in the bohra ziarat tours.

thanks

No Imams urs is observed and neither does any bohra tour operator cover the ziarats of all Imams, the only urs which is observed with much fanfare, grandeur and extravagance is of the 51st Dai, even Milad un Nabi and Mola Ali's shahadat looks pale in front of the 51st dai's urs !!

[Al Zulfiqar]

what is the need to celebrate the urus' of any imams when the abde bohras' veritable allah on earth is present among them???

kis type ke bakwaas sawal poonch rahe ho bhai? woh bhi ramzaan ke mahine mein jab dai ki pooja hoti hai?!