might as well be idol worship .....

[fight_the_power]

I don't run. I never run.

You do run. You always run.
You've run so many times from me, and everybody else... that it's become your personal trademark now.

11,000 posts over 12 years should've given you a hint.

Your undisputed record gives much more than a hint - it paints a very clear picture of how lonely and empty your life is.
Please go outside once in a while and try to make some friends. Maybe even meet a woman and start a family.

Don't forget that Incredible has burned through a dozen ids only because of me.

Sorry to break this to you, but unfortunately you're completely and utterly insignificant.
Mr Incredible keeps making new IDs simply because he is mentally unstable, not because of you... ya just ain't important enough for anybody to give a damn about - never have been and never will be lol.

I am just saving my energy for a more worthy opponent lol!!

There will never be anyone worthy of a world renowned Sunni Scholar like you lol - why not save your energy permanently... and run away forever?

never said those things see this proves that you are delusional i recommend a trip to the psychiatrist have you been taking your pills regularly

[fight_the_power]

However ignoring crazy people only encourages them, and brings more crazies here lol - just look at how a few Sunnis took over the place, because everybody decided to ignore them...

Now that I have decided to ignore this crazy dud, I mean dude, may God help us. LOL!!!

if i am crazy then you are certifiably insane sir

[zinger]

WHHHOOAAAA..... FTP, why are you replying to Anajmi on a post meant for DB_L???

Is that another id of yours?

Something tell me the cat is out of the bag!!!!!

I smell a huge rotting whale here

[fight_the_power]

WHHHOOAAAA..... FTP, why are you replying to Anajmi on a post meant for DB_L???

Is that another id of yours?

Something tell me the cat is out of the bag!!!!!

I smell a huge rotting whale here

Honest mistake sorry

[Qutbi-Hero]

WHHHOOAAAA..... FTP, why are you replying to Anajmi on a post meant for DB_L???

Is that another id of yours?

Something tell me the cat is out of the bag!!!!!

I smell a huge rotting whale here

You're probably right bro... Mr Incredible came back, just when Sunni Scholar went quiet lol!
It seems he's using both accounts now - and who knows how many others!
What a hero he is lol!

[anajmi]

Dud, are you completely bonkers? Did your mom drop you on your head when you were little? I think she might have purposely dun it dawg yeah lol!! All you've seem to have done since you got here is to try to figure out which anonymous id is equal to which other anonymous id. What a colossal waste of grey cells. You might wish to conserve those. You didn't have many to begin with. eh playa? dawg? LOL!!

[fight_the_power]

WHHHOOAAAA..... FTP, why are you replying to Anajmi on a post meant for DB_L???

Is that another id of yours?

Something tell me the cat is out of the bag!!!!!

I smell a huge rotting whale here

You're probably right bro... Mr Incredible came back, just when Sunni Scholar went quiet lol!
It seems he's using both accounts now - and who knows how many others!
What a hero he is lol!

actually carrying forward your analogy i might be the only other guy on this entire forum all the other user ids might be mine you might have been arguing/talking to the same guy for years an elaborate strategy by your beloved maula to waste your precious time just to spite you

[zinger]

haaa haaa haaa... it wasnt just a whale, it was a megalodon...

[fight_the_power]

[Qutbi-Hero]

I mean anarchist not atheists see i believe in god just not your god

Who is your God, and who is my God?

i know what goes on in the jamaat because i live with people who go to the jamaat regularly by regularly i mean they dont miss it for the world yes i hate these people

You hate people who do Namaaz in a Masjid, the House of God?

i am afraid that you will go psycho on me

Don't worry, I'm not a Sunni Terrorist.

i mean a guy who harbours delusions about a living man taking him to heaven can do anything

Which living man is going to take who to heaven?

[anajmi]

You hate people who do Namaaz in a Masjid, the House of God?

Have you ever been to a bohra masjid playa? It is less the house of God and more the house of Dai lol!! The dhikr of Allah is non-existent dawg, bro!! And, namaaz is the shortest and the quickest activity of any taking place in a bohra jamaat. lol

[JC]

Everything is done and practiced in a bohra mosque EXCEPT NAMAZ...

[ghulam muhammed]

Don't worry, I'm not a Sunni Terrorist.

Exactly !! He is from the progeny of the hypocrite Shias of Kufa who betrayed Imam Hussan (a.s.).

[Qutbi-Hero]

ADMIN - I've removed pretty much half of what I was going to say in this post, to make it comply with your rules - I'm just stating facts now dude!

You hate people who do Namaaz in a Masjid, the House of God?

Have you ever been to a bohra masjid playa? It is less the house of God and more the house of Dai lol!! The dhikr of Allah is non-existent dawg, bro!! And, namaaz is the shortest and the quickest activity of any taking place in a bohra jamaat. lol

Have you ever been to a Sunni Mosque... or do you just spend all day Googling in your attempt to be a Scholar?

You see, I've been to many Sunni Mosques myself - they come in two varieties in the UK...

On one hand, we have the "moderate" Sunni Mosques, who are not dissimilar to the Reformist Jamaats we have here - people smoking (not just tobacco!) outside, people coming to pray with alcohol on their breath, people discussing their own, or their sons/daughters recent divorce etc etc... but the funniest thing about these Sunni Mosques is... the fact they don't even know how to do Namaaz properly! The Hanafis and Hanbalis pray with their hands on their belly, the Shaafis with their hands on their chest and of course the Malikis pray with their hands by their side (thankfully somebody gets it right!). They also call Umar's Adhan instead of RasulAllah's Adhan, and some say Ameen or Bismillah out loud, wiggle their fingers around, raise their hands to different heights during Takbir, sit in a weird way after doing Sujud etc etc. All very strange and exemplifying the inconsistency and division among them... there really is no such thing as one united "Sunni Jamaat" which you keep implying there is.

Then, on the other hand we have the "orthodox" Sunni Mosques, which I won't say too much about as Admin insists on hiding the poisonous reality of your sect - however I will mention that the British Government is keeping a close eye on many of these Mosques due to all manner of immoral and illegal activities taking place in and around them... and the fact they constantly start protests, where they scream about decapitating every infidel they see, and how they will conquer Britain and implement Sharia Law, and how they'll keep British wives and daughters as war-booty and use them as sex-slaves etc etc...



Also, Sunni Mosques often have conflicts with each other, resulting in running street battles with the Police having to get involved - not to mention, constant cases of Sunnis attacking Hindus, Sikhs, Jews, and of course Shias... although I haven't (yet) heard of anything happening to Christians (although much of this stuff is downplayed by the politically-correct Media we have in the UK... so much more is probably happening but isn't reported widely if the incident is small)... oh and lets not forget the recent brutal murder of a British Soldier... and the huge riots that break-out regularly now, between Sunni Mosques and the local White community. This isn't racism, as there are no riots against Hindu Mandirs, Sikh Gurdwaras, Jewish Synagogues, Ismaili Jamatkhanas, DB Masjids etc, indeed they are always welcomed... these protests are specifically against Sunni Mosques.



This is Sunni'ism in the UK - I'm sure you are proud of it... and will continue your quest to persuade more people to join you... even though you have never, and will never, succeed in converting anyone.

[Qutbi-Hero]

Everything is done and practiced in a bohra mosque EXCEPT NAMAZ...

You must be talking about the Gay Masjid you belong to bro... in a DB Masjid, Namaaz is prayed regularly, day in, day out - you should go see it for yourself... don't worry dude, Bohras won't try and murder you like some other sects might.

[Qutbi-Hero]

Don't worry, I'm not a Sunni Terrorist.

Exactly !! He is from the progeny of the hypocrite Shias of Kufa who betrayed Imam Hussan (a.s.).

Firstly, the "progeny" of Kufa are Iraqis, not Indians.

Secondly, people who betray the Ahlul Bayt are not Shias... in the same way that Christians do not consider Judas to be a Christian as he betrayed the Prophet Jesus... therefore the Kufans (whose real allegiance was to their Bani Umayya)... had no genuine love for the Ahlul Bayt at all... basically, these Kufan Umayyads were two-faced Sunnis.

The betrayal and "sacrifice" of Jesus Christ was the will of Allah, as was the betrayal and sacrifice of Imam Hussain... both could have taken the easy path and saved themselves from torture... but instead they chose to suffer in the name of Allah and His Religion. In so doing, they purified the Religion from corruption, and saved a Nation... without Imam Hussain, the Shia would have dwindled in number and become extinct.

I devotedly do Matham to show my love, honour and respect for Imam Hussain, in recognition of how he knowingly gave his life to fight Shaytaanyat... and bring people back to righteousness and the true path of Islam. This is remembered by hundreds of millions to this day, all across the world, and will never be forgotten, just as Allah intended.

You may not want to remember this, indeed it seems you wish to diminish the monumental sacrifice of Imam Hussain... that is your prerogative - there are plenty of Sunni Mosques out there for you... and Sunni forums.

Thirdly, your comment begs the question - you are a Sunni... so does that mean you're a follower of Muljam and Muawiyah, of Yazid and Shimr?

PS: If you want to go back as far as Kufa in the year 680 - why not be more accurate and say we're BOTH the progeny of Hindus lol!

[anajmi]

The betrayal and "sacrifice" of Jesus Christ was the will of Allah

Actually, there was no torture or sacrifice of Jesus Christ. This is just one of the many fairy tales taught to the DB lols lol!!

[Qutbi-Hero]

The betrayal and "sacrifice" of Jesus Christ was the will of Allah

Actually, there was no torture or sacrifice of Jesus Christ. This is just one of the many fairy tales taught to the DB lols lol!!

Which is why I put it in brackets - does anything not go over your head?

PS: I love the way you refuted my whole post - what a rebuttal from a master scholar lol!

[anajmi]

Right, but see you continued in the same tone of deception.

The betrayal and "sacrifice" of Jesus Christ was the will of Allah, as was the betrayal and sacrifice of Imam Hussain... both could have taken the easy path and saved themselves from torture... but instead they chose to suffer in the name of Allah and His Religion. In so doing, they purified the Religion from corruption, and saved a Nation... without Imam Hussain, the Shia would have dwindled in number and become extinct.

both could have taken the easy path and saved themselves??? Jesus Christ was saved. He did not suffer.

Sorry, but you might believe you are smart, but the rest of us can see right through you. You are just another ignorant fool. lol playa.

[Qutbi-Hero]

Right, but see you continued in the same tone of deception.

The betrayal and "sacrifice" of Jesus Christ was the will of Allah, as was the betrayal and sacrifice of Imam Hussain... both could have taken the easy path and saved themselves from torture... but instead they chose to suffer in the name of Allah and His Religion. In so doing, they purified the Religion from corruption, and saved a Nation... without Imam Hussain, the Shia would have dwindled in number and become extinct.

both could have taken the easy path and saved themselves??? Jesus Christ was saved. He did not suffer.

Sorry, but you might believe you are smart, but the rest of us can see right through you. You are just another ignorant fool. lol playa.

Your IQ is in single digits - every post you make just keeps confirming it lol!

Ya see... only Muslims believe Jesus didn't die - Christians do believe he was horrifically tortured and crucified, which is why his death gave birth to the Christian Nation,,, cos ya know, if they believed the same as us, they'd be Muslims lol!

PS: Now, be a good little scholar and go have a crack at replying to the post I made specifically for you - hurry up though, I have to go to bed with my beautiful wife soon... whereas you'll be sitting on the computer for the rest of the day, all by your lonesome lol!

[anajmi]

Ya see... only Muslims believe Jesus didn't die - Christians do believe he was horrifically tortured and crucified, which is why his death gave birth to the Christian Nation,,, cos ya know, if they believed the same as us, they'd be Muslims lol!

lol playa. You shot yourself in the head. Did you know that single digit IQ is infinitely more than a non-existent IQ lol!!

The suffering and death in both cases ended up in the creation of faulty nations. Thank you for making my point for me.

And please, keep your bedroom statistics to yourself. We are not interested.

[Qutbi-Hero]

The faulty Nation is clearly on display... in the post you are too afraid to reply to lol!

I gotta go now... which means you can spend as long as you want Googling to try and find something to copy/paste in answer to my 100% accurate portrayal of Sunnis in the UK... please make it worthwhile lol!

PS: Not only did you just confirm your low IQ... you also confirmed that you were never a DB... because if you actually were one, you'd know that we believe that Jesus didn't die on the cross.

PPS: Don't be jealous of my bedroom antics... you'll find a woman of your own one day... well, hopefully lol!

[anajmi]

Sorry about ruining your night playa (not!!) lol. Now go cry on your wife's shoulder. I hope she has a better IQ than you otherwise your kids will be, well, god forbid, like you!!

[anajmi]

Have you ever been to a Sunni Mosque... or do you just spend all day Googling in your attempt to be a Scholar?

Yes, I have been to many Sunni mosques. Apparently, it looks like the filth from every sect of Islam has assembled in UK. lol!!!

But I am glad that in your entire post, you did not dispute what I had stated about the namaaz in a dawoodi bohra mosque.

[ghulam muhammed]

Firstly, the "progeny" of Kufa are Iraqis, not Indians.

Their siblings could have migrated to London lol

Secondly, people who betray the Ahlul Bayt are not Shias...

Then why did your ancestors (Kufans) invite Imam Hussain (a.s.) by sending thousands of letters to him so that they could give him bayt but showed their hypocrisy when the Imam's cousin, Hazrat Muslim bin Aqeel was deputed to kufa which resulted in his brutal death !! Read :- viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8886&p=120799&hilit ... la#p120799

You may not want to remember this, indeed it seems you wish to diminish the monumental sacrifice of Imam Hussain...

Here again........... You come up with comments which are not only blatant LIES but an attempt to create a rift between members on this forum........... I not only remember the great sacrifices made by Imam Hussain (a.s.) daily but try to take his true message instead of just beating chests 24x7 in a synchronised manner duly supported by abdes in chorus !!

there are plenty of Sunni Mosques out there for you... and Sunni forums.

You are not only a mole planted by kothar to disrupt this forum but also a venomous person who has nothing else to offer instead of the poison you spew here on a daily basis !! FYI, I don't believe in sunnism/shiasm/bohraism as my leaders (Prophet s.a.w., Mola Ali a.s. etc) neither addressed themselves as shias or sunnis. However there is every likelihood that you follow a Prophet who calls himself a shia and thereby negates the very command of Allah (swt) in Quran which recommends hellfire for the people who split His Ummah !!

[ghulam muhammed]

Although I have no intention of entering into a shia v/s sunni debate but DB-loll's post compels me to project the other side of the story regarding Masjid ethics :-

Bloody rites and agonising ceremony: Devotees turn mosque floor red during mass flagellation to mourn Shiite martyr

Blood is seen on the floor of a mosque as Indian Shiite Muslims flagellate themselves during a holy procession.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2qhNQdxET
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[ghulam muhammed]

One more example from DB-loll's hometown :-

Meet the Controversial Cleric Threatening to Turn UK Muslims Against Each Other

Hold on to your turbans, because the man you see above may soon ignite a Sunni versus Shia feud in Britain for the first time in our country’s history.

The radical, Kuwaiti-born Shia cleric Yasser al-Habib, who incessantly insults highly revered Sunni Muslims, has been tempting trouble for a long time. But with the opening of his Al-Muhassin mosque in Buckinghamshire last week, it's feared that tensions could reach boiling point and spill out of the pressure cooker into a sticky, complicated mess of sectarian conflict.

We took a trip up to Bucks last weekend to witness the unveiling of the controversial new mosque. More than a hundred of al-Habib’s followers turned up to the party and, when he arrived two hours late, he was given a hero's welcome – an adoring mass of chants, hugs and kisses.

One prominent Shia cleric (who wanted to remain anonymous) told us that he fears the mosque could lead to sectarian violence, with "Wahabbis and Salafis… attacking Shias”. The cleric also believes that, not only is al-Habib protected by the British government, but that he and his mosque are being funded by certain “Western organisations who want to create hatred and division among Muslims”. Which basically makes him the Alex Jones of Home Counties religious conspiracy hysteria – perhaps why he wanted to stay anonymous.

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/meet-the ... -to-the-uk

[tanwir23]

I think idol worship is intrinsic in the belief that Allah has creeated someone special on the basis of birth or they can perform miiracles which defy the laws of mature. Even our prophet(PBUH) was born a common man. His importance lies in the fact that he was chosen by Allah to be his prophet and whatever he did was achieved by employing the methods a normal mortal man would employ. As for other person including Imam Hassan and Hussain, they are great and worthy of imulation noot because they were related to the prophet but due to there extreme piety and courage to fight for Islam. As for jannat and jahannam is concerned nobody except Allah shall be the judge and nobody(even the prophet) shall be allowed to mediate. So as long as people are elevated to a high pedestal on the basis of birth, there shall be idol worship.