Deedar

[Akhtiar Wahid]

People wait for countless hours to get deedar sharaf from Aqa Moula, this practice of giving deedar is not at all Islamic, yet people waste their time and effort to stand on streets, in building balconies to have a glimpse of Aqa Moula, this is totally against Islam, prophet Mohammed (SAW) would never do something like this to then followers of Islam. This practice looks hideous and very unislamic similar to darshans of Indian Babas for examples SATYA SAI.

[Aftaab]

I have seen many bohra buddhiis and mid aged women who gives more importance on deedar then praying namaz, they prefer to make namaaz qaza while standing for deedar, specially around maghrib timings.

[true_bohra]

@Akhtiar Wahid:
When the Holy Prophet PBUH migrated from Mecca to Medina, the people of Medina stood outside the city, some climbed the date palms, some were standing for hours just to know when the Holy Prophet PBUH is coming and just to get a glimpse of his noorani face.
So dont say all this has no place in Islam and all this is Un-Islamic. Get your facts clear first and then decide.

[Aftaab]

@Akhtiar Wahid:
When the Holy Prophet PBUH migrated from Mecca to Medina, the people of Medina stood outside the city, some climbed the date palms, some were standing for hours just to know when the Holy Prophet PBUH is coming and just to get a glimpse of his noorani face.
So dont say all this has no place in Islam and all this is Un-Islamic. Get your facts clear first and then decide.

"book reference" please?

and btw in prophet times there was no pics available and no video was available so may be people did gather for his welcome.

and I am pretty sure there was no charge taken by prophet from people to meet him and see him.

[humanbeing]

Eagerness to see someone out of love, respect and reverence is not unislamic. Of course one has to draw the line between love and worship.


But in the case of Kothar Royalty, it is presented as out of love, but in fact it is to promote worship of the Dai. The ritualistic importance given to “Deedar” borders on worshipping the Dai. Such rituals are now getting extended to other members of kothar royalty.


With passing time, even deedar will be taxed in line with kadambosi and other “airy” services extended by kothar royals. Kothar Inc is waiting for opportune / fertile time to convert the deedar air-time into money making spree. Most likely a ‘live-deedar’ will cost some money and ‘relayed-deedar’ would be free.

[Akhtiar Wahid]

@true_bohra
Brother there is a big contrast between a prophet (messenger of allah) and a Dai (Person who does dawa of the message from the prophet).how can u compare these two scenarios, its totally irrelevant. Secondly, Prophet would have never demanded his followers to fold hands like a kafir does to a diety. doing deedar is demanded by kothar on every ocassion and it has taken years to mind control bohras regarding this. They have even circulated messages that "come to Mumbai just for one day during ashara mubarak to do Deedar of Aqa Moula." this signifies that martydom of Imam Hussain (AS) is least important than deedar.

[true_bohra]

When did I compare. I NEVER wrote Syedna TUS name in my reply. I told you that deesar is not unislamic. I NEVER associated Aaqa Maula's TUS name.

[think]

Also to note that every bohra home has a big picture of the both the dai's in their homes. some fanatics have them in every room so no evil can happen to them. some time back the dai asked also for a picture of a horse to be in homes.There was a craze going on among the abdes to buy pictures of horses and put them in their homes.

[alam]

Deedar is not all. People keep photos of Maula in front of them the entire majlis or waaz. Such idolatry is only propagated by the KOTHARIs and the qasreAali and the baite zainneee. If they worship and kiss feet, then what about ordinary lowly mumineens.

[ghulam muhammed]

DEEDAR :-

[img]http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/6073/3flc.jpg[/img]

[ghulam muhammed]

[img]http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5033/xltb.jpg[/img]

[asad]

@Akhtiar Wahid:
When the Holy Prophet PBUH migrated from Mecca to Medina, the people of Medina stood outside the city, some climbed the date palms, some were standing for hours just to know when the Holy Prophet PBUH is coming and just to get a glimpse of his noorani face.
So dont say all this has no place in Islam and all this is Un-Islamic. Get your facts clear first and then decide.

@ Tb,
do you know why people had gathered when Prophet came to Medina while doing hijrat? Because they had accepted Islam without even seeing the Prophet and many of them were seeing the Prophet for the first time, so yes they were doing the deedar but rather a first glimpse of the person they had accepted as there Prophet and that's it and almost never repeated.

How do you explain this hand folding gestures which Kothar prohibits bohras to do while in Saudi and Iraq but encourages while in other countries.

[seeker110]

gossip city

[SBM]

When the Holy Prophet PBUH migrated from Mecca to Medina, the people of Medina stood outside the city,

TB
Here you go again comparing Prophet pbuh to Syedna, the day Syedna follows the life of Prophet pbuh, I will be standing outside to do his deedar, No one had to have I Card to see Prophet, there was no Burhani Guard to treat you like Sheep to see Prophet, Prophet had no guards at his residence to get clearance and Prophet never asked female to come on the roads to be humiliated by Non Mehrem.
Prophet invited people to Islam when Syenda and his Goons give BARAAT on anyone who disagrees with them

[ghulam muhammed]

Dadima in Surat for Aqa Maula Deedar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuxA0kShIFs

[Mazakyo]

Dadima in Surat for Aqa Maula Deedar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuxA0kShIFs

Gullu kya ye teri damida hai ya koi general public mein say hai?

[bohri]

How is that different from this?

http://youtu.be/wGtLVLd4qm4

[DB- MUMBAIKAR]

@true_bohra
Brother there is a big contrast between a prophet (messenger of allah) and a Dai (Person who does dawa of the message from the prophet).how can u compare these two scenarios, its totally irrelevant. Secondly, Prophet would have never demanded his followers to fold hands like a kafir does to a diety. doing deedar is demanded by kothar on every ocassion and it has taken years to mind control bohras regarding this. They have even circulated messages that "come to Mumbai just for one day during ashara mubarak to do Deedar of Aqa Moula." this signifies that martydom of Imam Hussain (AS) is least important than deedar.

Yes you are right... I have been a witness to the craze that had gone to the highest level..... On the 9th of moharrum 1435 (Aashura night) before Maghrib Prayers, there was a global direct relay of Majlis from Saifee Masjid (Mumbai) and crazy abdes in our markaz were sitting like idiots in front of the giant screen awaiting "Deedar" of the SMB & SMS. One could hear loud and clear Maghrib Azaan (being a middle east country) outside but our crazy Abde's and Amtes were glued to the screen for deedar completely ignoring the Azaan. As it was an important day, i had to be there in markaz, although unwillingly... and i started to pray for Maghrib namaaz on my own seeing that no one was interested in Namaaz..... and some crazy abdes told me to sit down as it was obstructing their view of screen.... Worst than that, even the Aamil was sitting like a bloody duck not bothered about the Namaaz.... nonetheless i continued my prayers as i was fasting and completed it before it was qazaa (as all are aware that maghrib is Adaa only for few minutes !!).....

So you see this is the height of idolatry we bohras have been reduced to... In the name of Dai, we forget and forgo what has been made Waajib on us by Allah Ta'ala. It is sad and disheartening to know that on the day of Qiyaamat our hisaab will be very harsh and we will have no answers or any support to claim our such blasphemous actions in the eyes of Allah Ta'ala..

On the other hand the bohras joke about the muslims who will pray anywhere (if no masjid is nearby) as soon as they hear Azaan... now tell me who is right and who is wrong?

A more damning case of idol worshipping was a few months back when on a certain occasion in a bayan the Aamil claimed that the Dhool (Dust) on the photos of Dai's in your homne is like "Khaake Shifa" and should be licked to solve your bodily problems... Now isnt that madness !!! Only a brainless, spineless abde / amte would fall to such a low level of licking dust from a photo of a normal human being who lived amongst us and died like any normal human being and that too afflicted with physical problems like any human being..... i m sure others will agree with my views...