Bukhari - some interesting Hadith he collected

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Re: Bukhari - some interesting Hadith he collected

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Unread post by badrijanab » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:20 pm

anajmi wrote:I will answer your question if you acknowledge that according to you, Abu Bakr is rightly guided and knows more than the prophet (saw).
Resident Wahabi mazak kar raha he, kya joke mara Anjami sahab :) Wah!
anajmi wrote:The prophet (saw) was listening but didn't know it was an instrument of Satan, until Abu Bakr showed up. So Abu Bakr knows more than the prophet (saw) according to you!!
You will not become intellectually honest, will you?!!!

Your Bukhari reports categorically that "Prophet Mohammmed s.a.w.w. turned his face away."

Speak truth and not speak lie - is basic fundamental known to almost every child and adult. Lets agree to your premise that Abu Bakr was not born as "rightly guided" but it is implied he knew that he should speak truth. Either Abu Bakr is speaking lie (see Quran, how it treats lier) or if he is speaking true then that lady was playing "Satanic Instruments".

It is very shocking that pious month of Ramdaan and fasting in it have made what type of effect in the mind of that lady that the moment Ramdaan is over she is playing "Satanic Instruments"?

Anajmi sahab and party hammered from all sides.

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Re: Bukhari - some interesting Hadith he collected

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Unread post by anajmi » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:54 pm

"Prophet Mohammmed s.a.w.w. turned his face away."
He didn't turn his face away you moron. You cannot even copy and paste correctly. Read the hadith again. He laid down and turned his face to the other side. Did he cover his ears? If you turn your face to the other side, do you stop listening? Ask porus to find a shia hadith about this incident before you come back with more nonsense!!

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Re: Bukhari - some interesting Hadith he collected

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Unread post by badrijanab » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:59 pm

Muslim First wrote: Narrated 'Abdullah bin Umar:
Umar bin Al-Khattab saw a silken dress (cloak) being sold at the gate of the Mosque and said, "O Allah's Apostle! Would that you buy it and wear it on Fridays and when the delegates come to you!" Allah's Apostle said, "This is worn by the one who will have no share in the Hereafter." Later on some silk dresses were brought and Allah's Apostle sent one of them to 'Umar. 'Umar said, "How do you give me this to wear while you said what you said about the dress of 'Utarid?" Allah's Apostle said, "I have not given it to you to wear." So, 'Umar gave it to a pagan brother of his in Mecca. Sahih Bukhari: Volume 3, Book 47, Number 782.

Bhagwanji

What is your observation ?
Did Hz Umar buy anything ?
Did he wear it?

Sahih Bukhari - Chapter 15, The two festivals (Eids), #69: Narrated 'Abdullah bin Umar: Umar bought a silk cloak from the market, took it to Allah's Apostle and said, "O Allah's Apostle! Take it and adorn yourself with it during the 'Id and when the delegations visit you." Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) replied, "This dress is for those who have no share (in the Hereafter)." After a long period Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) sent to Umar a cloak of silk brocade. Umar came to Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) with the cloak and said, "O Allah's Apostle! You said that this dress was for those who had no share (in the Hereafter); yet you have sent me this cloak." Allah's Apostle said to him, "Sell it and fulfill your needs by it."

When one accept a gift then the receiver become owner of the gift. Hazrat Mohammed PBUH denied & rejected Hz. Umar gift so Hz. Umar remained the owner of that Silk cloak. Hz. Umar accepted Silk cloak and sold to fulfill his needs. One can only sell the thing which one owns. So TWICE i.e. two times Hz. Umar Sahab was owner of Silk Cloak.

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Re: Sunan Abu Dawood - some interesting Hadith he collected

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Unread post by badrijanab » Thu May 01, 2014 5:28 am

Re: Sunan Abu Dawood, (Book #8, Hadith #1424):

Narrated Ubayy ibn Ka'b: Al-hasan reported: Umar ibn al-Khattab gathered the people (in tarawih prayer) behind Ubayy ibn Ka'b (who led them). He used to lead them for twenty days (during Ramadan, and would not recite the supplication except in the second half of it (i.e. Ramadan). When the last ten days remained, he kept away from them, and prayed in his house. They used to say: Ubayy ran away.

As a caliph of time Hazrat Umar should lead Dharawi prayers, but he is incapable!!! So he is gathering people to offer Dharawi behind someone else who know whole Quran. It proves Hazrat Umar can't recite whole Quran, he hasn't memorised the Quran!

In era of Prophet s.a.w.w. 'naafil' salat were not offered in Imamat, Hz. Umar did change in Sunnat = termed Tarawi naafil namaz offering under Imam as "good bid'dat"... above rivayat proves the then people seems to be hesitate to offer Tarawi per Umar's way, that is why he is "gathering" (forcing) people to pursue bid'dat!!!!

These are some of the reasons that after accepting caliphate when Ameer-al-mumineen Mola Ali a.s. first namaz, Bukhari/Muslim reported that namaazi were chatting, "Today we offered the salaat like we use to do during the era of Prophet Mohammed s.a.w.w." So during the caliphate era of 1/2/3 namazi were made to offer something else but not the Prophet s.a.w.w. version of Namaz. So the then and now followers of 1/2/3 do not offer the namaz like Prophet s.a.w.w.

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Re: Bukhari - some interesting Hadith he collected

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Unread post by shapur » Thu May 01, 2014 7:56 am

badrijanab wrote:Re: Sunan Abu Dawood, (Book #8, Hadith #1424):

Narrated Ubayy ibn Ka'b: Al-hasan reported: Umar ibn al-Khattab gathered the people (in tarawih prayer) behind Ubayy ibn Ka'b (who led them). He used to lead them for twenty days (during Ramadan, and would not recite the supplication except in the second half of it (i.e. Ramadan). When the last ten days remained, he kept away from them, and prayed in his house. They used to say: Ubayy ran away.

As a caliph of time Hazrat Umar should lead Dharawi prayers, but he is incapable!!! So he is gathering people to offer Dharawi behind someone else who know whole Quran. It proves Hazrat Umar can't recite whole Quran, he hasn't memorised the Quran!

In era of Prophet s.a.w.w. 'naafil' salat were not offered in Imamat, Hz. Umar did change in Sunnat = termed Tarawi naafil namaz offering under Imam as "good bid'dat"... above rivayat proves the then people seems to be hesitate to offer Tarawi per Umar's way, that is why he is "gathering" (forcing) people to pursue bid'dat!!!!

These are some of the reasons that after accepting caliphate when Ameer-al-mumineen Mola Ali a.s. first namaz, Bukhari/Muslim reported that namaazi were chatting, "Today we offered the salaat like we use to do during the era of Prophet Mohammed s.a.w.w." So during the caliphate era of 1/2/3 namazi were made to offer something else but not the Prophet s.a.w.w. version of Namaz. So the then and now followers of 1/2/3 do not offer the namaz like Prophet s.a.w.w.
Br BJ , what about your faved " Bohra Maslaq" ? How do you think we offer the namaz ? We have found it convenient to waive off the sunnat and nafil namazs and one is compelled to wonder as to when the farz - which is also hanging by one thread- will be knocked out altogether too - Nauzobillah.
And even now, the farz, the way its led and prayed is more like in " getting it over with" fashion except till the time we come to the "allahumma haaza daai...." part when both the imam and the musallis get suddenly rejuvenated with a loud thunderous pronouncement of the dai's name which is quickly followed by an equally enthusiastic round of purjosh matam. What do you have to say about our truncated namaz and its style , sir ? Perhaps after that you could judge and evaluate what the hanafis, shafis, humbalis and malikis do.,