truth seeker100 wrote:today the stupid janab in our masjid said that whoever dosent love the dai cannot ever enter jannat
No wonder he doesn't say a word of condemnation with regard to Israel's atrocities on Palestinians. He must have joined the Zionist group of the "New World Order" !!accountability wrote:Syedna Sahib delivered his sermos on Lailat ul Qadr under jewish Star. if you were to watch and listen to his bayan, above his head a six cornered star, which is on Israeli flag was hanging. which is also King David's star.
of course he won't!! after all he only cares about money and according to him the rest of the muslims are going to hell anyway, why would he care about Palestine or gaza!!ghulam muhammed wrote:No wonder he doesn't say a word of condemnation with regard to Israel's atrocities on Palestinians. He must have joined the Zionist group of the "New World Order" !!accountability wrote:Syedna Sahib delivered his sermos on Lailat ul Qadr under jewish Star. if you were to watch and listen to his bayan, above his head a six cornered star, which is on Israeli flag was hanging. which is also King David's star.
Islam has no concept of a Dai . His signs of barakat , shifa, ghyab na jankari are only for those who are blind.Like Hindus believe that their idol is their sustainer but indeed Allah in the only sustainer. I really wonder if Imam Hussain (A.S) prayed for him in his last sujood. Never ! He has corrupted people.think wrote:are there any clear proofs that sms is allahs dai or is it just he himself making himself dai. moses came with clear proofs and so did all the messangers of allah. sms says he is allahs dai does allah say that he is my dai for bohri's.
Alhamdulillah , happy to hear that . Do pray for these people. Atleast if the community will end i will be in much peace . Ameensilvertongue wrote:Dai is another GOD worship in our community.. But I think many have started realising the extremism here. Many of my die hard abde frnds have recently started doubting and questioning about the acts.. thats a good sign I guess.. specially in Dubai..
Yes, in the past several days, even the die-hards are quite silent on many issues that have been questioned directly to them. Maybe I should take the credit of scaring them off as I joined the forum several days back toosilvertongue wrote:Dai is another GOD worship in our community.. But I think many have started realising the extremism here. Many of my die hard abde frnds have recently started doubting and questioning about the acts.. thats a good sign I guess.. specially in Dubai..
WiththenameofAllah wrote:Read Ibn Kathir's tafseer on Surah Al Qadr..
http://www.quran4u.com/tafsir%20ibn%20k ... 20Qadr.htm
It is a night better than 1000 months. Prophet Peace Be Upon Him mentioned the importance of this night as Quran does but only for bohras this night's blessing are attained by seeing MS only?I question why so much importance was given to this night then, especially to praying?. Most of the people in the community could not pray as there was a waseela of MB, waseela of MS and then Waseela of the Aamil ...
Sister there were many good women praying and ignoring the waseelas. Alhamdulillah. May Allah guide our hearts. ameen.Spectator wrote:WiththenameofAllah wrote:Read Ibn Kathir's tafseer on Surah Al Qadr..
http://www.quran4u.com/tafsir%20ibn%20k ... 20Qadr.htm
It is a night better than 1000 months. Prophet Peace Be Upon Him mentioned the importance of this night as Quran does but only for bohras this night's blessing are attained by seeing MS only?I question why so much importance was given to this night then, especially to praying?. Most of the people in the community could not pray as there was a waseela of MB, waseela of MS and then Waseela of the Aamil ...
There has always been one waseela on lailatul qadr. I was glad they played Burhanuddin moula's waseela as I thought that would be the end of it. But then they went ahead and and played SMS waseela, the content of which wasn't that great. But the biggest annoyance was the Idris bhaisaheb speech. Such a waste of time. Why oh why I ask? We are there to pray. Not to listen to some crappy speech.
How is roti core of everything? It is very important that a woman should take care of household responsibilities but if you send tiffin what would she do at home? Roti is not the core of religion as far as i know.There are many others that we should be aware of like praying five times a day. Is there any activity where all the people would be gathered and forced to pray? Lol NO !AmmarHussaini wrote:roti is core of every thing, awareness about roti is good but since motive is not to create awareness about roti but to exploit roti for personal goal so it wont succeed.
their goal is to make women stay at home and not go outside and gain some knowledge. if they would even gain an ounce of knowledge the women would realize that this muffy is nothing but a chorWiththenameofAllah wrote:How is roti core of everything? It is very important that a woman should take care of household responsibilities but if you send tiffin what would she do at home? Roti is not the core of religion as far as i know.There are many others that we should be aware of like praying five times a day. Is there any activity where all the people would be gathered and forced to pray? Lol NO !AmmarHussaini wrote:roti is core of every thing, awareness about roti is good but since motive is not to create awareness about roti but to exploit roti for personal goal so it wont succeed.
What personal goal they have behind roti awareness?
Well with very limited marketing knowledge of mine, I strongly believe that this is one of the marketing stunt to win ladies die hard follower by praising and promoting roti making skills.Spectator wrote:I don't understand this obsession with roti. It is is good thing to be able to make roti but this is taking it too far. So it's roti mania now. Maybe in a couple of years it will be a dar chawaal drive and in few years from then it will be a biryaani boom. There are more pressing issues in bohri community and the world at large than roti!
I don't think that is their primary goal, in today's world only very stupid cannot go for higher education or keep their kids in kitchen, so forget it that gonna happen. But if you confuse them enough spiritually then they can be NASA scientist but still follow them blindly. It is same like big business man, film stars and politicians have gurugies, they are simple misguided educated class. and with spirituality it works always with any class. So I believe that they are doing marking stunt with ladies to win their votes...truth seeker100 wrote:their goal is to make women stay at home and not go outside and gain some knowledge. if they would even gain an ounce of knowledge the women would realize that this muffy is nothing but a chorWiththenameofAllah wrote: How is roti core of everything? It is very important that a woman should take care of household responsibilities but if you send tiffin what would she do at home? Roti is not the core of religion as far as i know.There are many others that we should be aware of like praying five times a day. Is there any activity where all the people would be gathered and forced to pray? Lol NO !
What personal goal they have behind roti awareness?
No, Staying home can't be the objective as by getting tiffins most women have nothing to do at home so many of them have started rida business, teaching, etc.their goal is to make women stay at home and not go outside and gain some knowledge. if they would even gain an ounce of knowledge the women would realize that this muffy is nothing but a chor
Yes I got the same feeling as well. I remember the same tone being used in previous years but it never came directly from Burhanuddin Moula (RA) as he rarely showed anger in his bayaans. This time it is coming directly from the Dai.wise_guy wrote:Showed 5 min extract from SMS bayan from Pakistan.. I guess they showed it everywhere.. Same old rhetoric about wajebaat.. "Hame nahi laiyye toh kaun lese.. It is farizat... Dawat ne kai tamara paisa taraf mohtaaj nathi.. Hame toh waajebaat laine ehsaan kariye che etc etc". But in a more high tone manner (dhamki/intimidating)...