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Does love know Religious boundaries ?
Ram Puniyani
Communal politics, communal violence all over used women’s bodies as the site of contestation and community honor. This is the worst expression of patriarchal values inherent in the communal politics. We recall that it was the presentation of a road accident between boys of two religious communities that was propagated as an issue of the honor of ‘our girl’
being violated by the ‘other’. The Panchayats were mobilized; openly flaunting the arms, and Muzzafarnagar violence was orchestrated. And that’s not the end of the abuse of ‘our women-their women’ mind set. Post Muzzafarnagar violence, UP is abuzz with various activities aimed at polarizing the communities using this issue.
A Madarassa teacher stated that she was abducted and raped, by Muslim men. She kept changing her versions and later said that she had eloped with her lover. This Raksha Bandhan day (August 2014) hordes of RSS volunteers spread in different parts of Western UP, tying Rakhi (sacred thread, traditionally tied by sister on brothers wrist) to the people and warning them of the threat of the Muslim youth wooing away their ‘girls’ for love jihad. ‘Muslim youth teasing and luring Hindu girls’ has been made the central part of propaganda in Western UP currently. While the Prime minister states from the ramparts of Red Fort that there should be a moratorium on communalism-casteism for ten years, his party colleague,
Chandramohan, a BJP spokesperson from UP says that “incident like that of the madrassa teacher are a part of ‘global love jihad’, which targets vulnerable Hindu girls.” In BJP’s parent organization, RSS, after the shakhas are dispersed the volunteers go from house to house and tell the people about ‘dangers of love jihad’ and need to protect ‘our girls’! ANHAD
report on Muzzafarnagar violence, ‘Evil stalks the land’ exposes the falsehood of ‘Muslim boy talking to Hindu girls to lure them to marry and so to convert to Islam’. Incidentally this was the major concoction around which the riot was engineered. One Baba Rijakdas has come up in Saharanpur in Western UP. He is supposed to cure the love smitten girls, if the boy happens to be a Muslim!
The word “love Jihad’ which played a major role in mobilizing the Hindu community for violence, has a strange history. As such the two components of this word Love and Jihad, who so ever manufactured it, have a very different meaning. Since 9/11 2001 the word Jihad has been employed in the popular media in a very negative way and that meaning has by now become part of the ‘social common sense’. Contrary to the meaning of the word Jihad in Koran, which means striving, it came be projected as killing of non-Muslims. The word Love Jihad must be a creation of an evil genius and it has come to be used to further demonize the Muslim community. The propaganda has been that some Muslim organizations are funding Muslim youth, to lure the non Muslim girls, to marry them and to increase the Muslim population. The rumor is being spread that youth are given money to buy motorbike, mobile etc and lure the non Muslim girls.
While doing Google search, if you type, ‘why Hindu Girls are’, the other sentence which pops up on the search engine is ‘are attracted to Muslim boys”! Recently in Maharashtra, a group “Hindu Raksha Samiti” has been claiming to save Hindu religion by breaking up the Hindu Muslim couples, if the girl happens to be a Hindu girl. Not that there are too many such
couples, just a suspicion and these self appointed guardians of Hinduism pounce on the boy. A booklet in Marathi on Love Jihad shows a Muslim boy riding the Motor bike, with Hindu girl riding pillion. The word has been so popularized that even a Christian group in Kerala allied with the Sangh progeny, VHP to stop this non existing phenomenon.
In India the word began to be used in coastal Karnataka, Mangalore couple of years ago, and in parts of Kerala. It was Sri Ram Sene founded by RSS trained Swayam Sevak, Pramod Mutalik, which started attack on Hindu girl-Muslim boy couples. The marriages of such combinations started being looked at with suspicion and if parents were opposed to the marriage, Sri Ram Sene would help to take the matter to the court also. The pretext was that the girl has been forced to marry the Muslim boy. Funnily in the case of Sijalraj and Azghar the judge of Karnatak High Court, went on to give the ruling, that the facts (Love Jihad) had “national ramifications… concern security, besides the question of unlawful trafficking of women,”!
So it ordered the Director-General and Inspector-General of Police to hold a thorough investigation into to ‘love jihad’. Pending that, the girl was asked to stay with her parents. The case was that of a simple Hindu Muslim marriage and the girl stood to her version and refused to bow to the social pressures. The police investigation showed that the notion of ‘love Jihad’ is a cooked up one with no substance whatsoever.
In a similar case earlier the Kerala High court while hearing the appeal from two parents passed a similar order. Two Hindu girls had eloped and got converted to Islam and planned to get married. Kerala court also ordered the police authorities to investigate this phenomenon. The police investigation again showed that there is no such phenomenon as Love Jihad. The organizational promotion of such marriages is a hoax but has become part of social understanding.
Shri Ram Sene propaganda stated that over 4000 Hindu girls have been lured into conversions. This concoction was aggressively put across through various mechanisms. This laughable, figment of imagination spread like wild fire and frightened the parents. The trajectory of many of these girls who initially state about their love for the boy and voluntary conversion, changes many a times after they are forced to stay with their parents. Under a sort of emotional blackmail, some girls give in and later say that they were brain washed, shown a Jihadi CD and what not.
We have witnessed such acts in the form of propaganda in Gujarat in the wake of carnage, that ‘Muslim boys are luring Adivasi girls’. There Babu Bajarangi, a VHP-Bajrang Dal activist, who was also a major participant in Gujarat carnage (2002), formed a goon-gang. This gang attacked couples and forced them to separate if they belonged to different religions. All this
is presented as defense of religion! As such inter-caste, inter-religious marriages are a normal natural part of a plural society. With rise of the communal politics, these inter-religious marriages are being opposed very dangerously. We have also the case of Rijwan Ur Rehman married to Priyanka Todi, daughter of an affluent and powerful business magnate of Kolkata. She was forced to turn around under emotional blackmail from parents and relatives. The details were not known, what is known is that later Rijwan Ur Rehman was forced to commit suicide. In all such cases the role of police, state machinery, has been totally against the spirit and provisions of law, the protectors of law acting to support the things totally against the law.
Such campaigns against inter-religion, inter-caste marriages are not only against the spirit of national integration they also aim to control the lives of girls in the patriarchal mode. Women’s bodies are made symbols of community honor. In addition the bogey against a minority is whipped up to aid the divisive politics. It is a double bonus for sectarian politics.
Since in patriarchal norms women are regarded as property of man and are made to live under the control structure defined by men, such an issue rouses high emotions. The agenda of communal politics targets minorities, Muslims at one level and promotes patriarchal norms at another.
Over a period of time, from being just a mechanism to control the lives of Hindu girls, a tool to ensure that girls don’t have the right to choose their own life partners, this phrase has been used to instigate violence as witnessed in Muzaffarnagar. Most of the pretexts of communal violence are cooked up, gradually manufactured. This term ‘Love Jihad’ by now is being
used as a dangerous weapon. Lot of messages on whatsApp and face book are flying and relating the phenomenon as an international conspiracy of the Muslims. On other side Jodha Akabar is being cited as the initial incident of this phenomenon. Clearly one knows that kings used to have such marriages as a part of political alliances, cutting across other
boundaries. How cleverly the popular legend of Jodha Akbar is being manipulated!
The politics in the name of religion, the politics of Sangh Parivar here in India or that of Taliban’s in Afghanistan, Islamic fundamentalists, or even Christian fundamentalists all operate on the same wavelength as far as crushing the rights of women is concerned. In line with this starting from Sri Ram Sene, to Babu Bajrangi to those orchestrating violence in
Muzzafarnager, they all operate on the premise, that women are the property of men and their lives have to be controlled. The truth is not the issue here; the myth has been drilled in to the thinking of society. This social thinking is being stepped up by the activities of RSS and affiliates who are having door to door campaign to spread the venom of communal hatred.
Ram Puniyani
Communal politics, communal violence all over used women’s bodies as the site of contestation and community honor. This is the worst expression of patriarchal values inherent in the communal politics. We recall that it was the presentation of a road accident between boys of two religious communities that was propagated as an issue of the honor of ‘our girl’
being violated by the ‘other’. The Panchayats were mobilized; openly flaunting the arms, and Muzzafarnagar violence was orchestrated. And that’s not the end of the abuse of ‘our women-their women’ mind set. Post Muzzafarnagar violence, UP is abuzz with various activities aimed at polarizing the communities using this issue.
A Madarassa teacher stated that she was abducted and raped, by Muslim men. She kept changing her versions and later said that she had eloped with her lover. This Raksha Bandhan day (August 2014) hordes of RSS volunteers spread in different parts of Western UP, tying Rakhi (sacred thread, traditionally tied by sister on brothers wrist) to the people and warning them of the threat of the Muslim youth wooing away their ‘girls’ for love jihad. ‘Muslim youth teasing and luring Hindu girls’ has been made the central part of propaganda in Western UP currently. While the Prime minister states from the ramparts of Red Fort that there should be a moratorium on communalism-casteism for ten years, his party colleague,
Chandramohan, a BJP spokesperson from UP says that “incident like that of the madrassa teacher are a part of ‘global love jihad’, which targets vulnerable Hindu girls.” In BJP’s parent organization, RSS, after the shakhas are dispersed the volunteers go from house to house and tell the people about ‘dangers of love jihad’ and need to protect ‘our girls’! ANHAD
report on Muzzafarnagar violence, ‘Evil stalks the land’ exposes the falsehood of ‘Muslim boy talking to Hindu girls to lure them to marry and so to convert to Islam’. Incidentally this was the major concoction around which the riot was engineered. One Baba Rijakdas has come up in Saharanpur in Western UP. He is supposed to cure the love smitten girls, if the boy happens to be a Muslim!
The word “love Jihad’ which played a major role in mobilizing the Hindu community for violence, has a strange history. As such the two components of this word Love and Jihad, who so ever manufactured it, have a very different meaning. Since 9/11 2001 the word Jihad has been employed in the popular media in a very negative way and that meaning has by now become part of the ‘social common sense’. Contrary to the meaning of the word Jihad in Koran, which means striving, it came be projected as killing of non-Muslims. The word Love Jihad must be a creation of an evil genius and it has come to be used to further demonize the Muslim community. The propaganda has been that some Muslim organizations are funding Muslim youth, to lure the non Muslim girls, to marry them and to increase the Muslim population. The rumor is being spread that youth are given money to buy motorbike, mobile etc and lure the non Muslim girls.
While doing Google search, if you type, ‘why Hindu Girls are’, the other sentence which pops up on the search engine is ‘are attracted to Muslim boys”! Recently in Maharashtra, a group “Hindu Raksha Samiti” has been claiming to save Hindu religion by breaking up the Hindu Muslim couples, if the girl happens to be a Hindu girl. Not that there are too many such
couples, just a suspicion and these self appointed guardians of Hinduism pounce on the boy. A booklet in Marathi on Love Jihad shows a Muslim boy riding the Motor bike, with Hindu girl riding pillion. The word has been so popularized that even a Christian group in Kerala allied with the Sangh progeny, VHP to stop this non existing phenomenon.
In India the word began to be used in coastal Karnataka, Mangalore couple of years ago, and in parts of Kerala. It was Sri Ram Sene founded by RSS trained Swayam Sevak, Pramod Mutalik, which started attack on Hindu girl-Muslim boy couples. The marriages of such combinations started being looked at with suspicion and if parents were opposed to the marriage, Sri Ram Sene would help to take the matter to the court also. The pretext was that the girl has been forced to marry the Muslim boy. Funnily in the case of Sijalraj and Azghar the judge of Karnatak High Court, went on to give the ruling, that the facts (Love Jihad) had “national ramifications… concern security, besides the question of unlawful trafficking of women,”!
So it ordered the Director-General and Inspector-General of Police to hold a thorough investigation into to ‘love jihad’. Pending that, the girl was asked to stay with her parents. The case was that of a simple Hindu Muslim marriage and the girl stood to her version and refused to bow to the social pressures. The police investigation showed that the notion of ‘love Jihad’ is a cooked up one with no substance whatsoever.
In a similar case earlier the Kerala High court while hearing the appeal from two parents passed a similar order. Two Hindu girls had eloped and got converted to Islam and planned to get married. Kerala court also ordered the police authorities to investigate this phenomenon. The police investigation again showed that there is no such phenomenon as Love Jihad. The organizational promotion of such marriages is a hoax but has become part of social understanding.
Shri Ram Sene propaganda stated that over 4000 Hindu girls have been lured into conversions. This concoction was aggressively put across through various mechanisms. This laughable, figment of imagination spread like wild fire and frightened the parents. The trajectory of many of these girls who initially state about their love for the boy and voluntary conversion, changes many a times after they are forced to stay with their parents. Under a sort of emotional blackmail, some girls give in and later say that they were brain washed, shown a Jihadi CD and what not.
We have witnessed such acts in the form of propaganda in Gujarat in the wake of carnage, that ‘Muslim boys are luring Adivasi girls’. There Babu Bajarangi, a VHP-Bajrang Dal activist, who was also a major participant in Gujarat carnage (2002), formed a goon-gang. This gang attacked couples and forced them to separate if they belonged to different religions. All this
is presented as defense of religion! As such inter-caste, inter-religious marriages are a normal natural part of a plural society. With rise of the communal politics, these inter-religious marriages are being opposed very dangerously. We have also the case of Rijwan Ur Rehman married to Priyanka Todi, daughter of an affluent and powerful business magnate of Kolkata. She was forced to turn around under emotional blackmail from parents and relatives. The details were not known, what is known is that later Rijwan Ur Rehman was forced to commit suicide. In all such cases the role of police, state machinery, has been totally against the spirit and provisions of law, the protectors of law acting to support the things totally against the law.
Such campaigns against inter-religion, inter-caste marriages are not only against the spirit of national integration they also aim to control the lives of girls in the patriarchal mode. Women’s bodies are made symbols of community honor. In addition the bogey against a minority is whipped up to aid the divisive politics. It is a double bonus for sectarian politics.
Since in patriarchal norms women are regarded as property of man and are made to live under the control structure defined by men, such an issue rouses high emotions. The agenda of communal politics targets minorities, Muslims at one level and promotes patriarchal norms at another.
Over a period of time, from being just a mechanism to control the lives of Hindu girls, a tool to ensure that girls don’t have the right to choose their own life partners, this phrase has been used to instigate violence as witnessed in Muzaffarnagar. Most of the pretexts of communal violence are cooked up, gradually manufactured. This term ‘Love Jihad’ by now is being
used as a dangerous weapon. Lot of messages on whatsApp and face book are flying and relating the phenomenon as an international conspiracy of the Muslims. On other side Jodha Akabar is being cited as the initial incident of this phenomenon. Clearly one knows that kings used to have such marriages as a part of political alliances, cutting across other
boundaries. How cleverly the popular legend of Jodha Akbar is being manipulated!
The politics in the name of religion, the politics of Sangh Parivar here in India or that of Taliban’s in Afghanistan, Islamic fundamentalists, or even Christian fundamentalists all operate on the same wavelength as far as crushing the rights of women is concerned. In line with this starting from Sri Ram Sene, to Babu Bajrangi to those orchestrating violence in
Muzzafarnager, they all operate on the premise, that women are the property of men and their lives have to be controlled. The truth is not the issue here; the myth has been drilled in to the thinking of society. This social thinking is being stepped up by the activities of RSS and affiliates who are having door to door campaign to spread the venom of communal hatred.
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RSS has been engaged in rewriting the History of India to fit to their concept of "hindu rashtra" by manipulating and distorting the facts.RSS with BJP in power has filled educational institutions with BJP or RSS sympathizers and activists. These include the University Grants Commission, the secondary school board, the Indian Institute of Advanced Study, and the councils of social sciences and historical research, which run virtually all of India's specialized social science research institutes outside the university system.
The BJP govt immediately after taking the responsibility, has burned 150,000 files which includes the records of the First Cabinet Meeting of Independent India and the report about the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi.
The BJP govt immediately after taking the responsibility, has burned 150,000 files which includes the records of the First Cabinet Meeting of Independent India and the report about the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi.
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God bless people such as Dr. Ram Puniyani, Harsh Mander, (the late?) Gagan Sethi, Tesla Stelvad and many others who are fighting out of the goodness of their heart and for the true love of the country against this menace of communalism.
What more can I say? That is all. May Allah bless them and give them more strength and fateh-mubin.
What more can I say? That is all. May Allah bless them and give them more strength and fateh-mubin.
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Love Jihad was a nefarious campaign conceived by the RSS and carried out in Kerala with active support of the so called secular media a few years ago. Finally, the Kerala High Court had to intervene to stop the sinister propaganda by the BJP and its affiliates.
Fortunately, in Kerala there was a strong presence of media organisations controlled by various Muslim groups to expose the RSS propaganda.
Now, the RSS has taken up it as national campaign and the mainstream media will spice it up. Since the Muslim community doesn’t have any presence in the English media, BJP will cash in on it dividing two communities. RSS may be proved wrong later, but by the time they would have achieved their goal as it happened in the case of terror cases foisted on innocent Muslim youths.
Fortunately, in Kerala there was a strong presence of media organisations controlled by various Muslim groups to expose the RSS propaganda.
Now, the RSS has taken up it as national campaign and the mainstream media will spice it up. Since the Muslim community doesn’t have any presence in the English media, BJP will cash in on it dividing two communities. RSS may be proved wrong later, but by the time they would have achieved their goal as it happened in the case of terror cases foisted on innocent Muslim youths.
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Other side of ‘Love Jihad’- List of renowned Hindus who had a Muslim wife
While the RSS & Co is raking the issue of ‘Love Jihad’ only to demonize Muslims and defame Islam , presenting the other side of the story we are giving a list of over 100 famous Hindus who had a Muslim wife. The question is if marrying a Hindu girl is called ‘Love Jihad’ then what word will be used for those Hindus who had a Muslim wife? Although Islam doesn’t approve such inter religious marriages at all.
http://muslimmirror.com/eng/other-side- ... slim-wife/
While the RSS & Co is raking the issue of ‘Love Jihad’ only to demonize Muslims and defame Islam , presenting the other side of the story we are giving a list of over 100 famous Hindus who had a Muslim wife. The question is if marrying a Hindu girl is called ‘Love Jihad’ then what word will be used for those Hindus who had a Muslim wife? Although Islam doesn’t approve such inter religious marriages at all.
http://muslimmirror.com/eng/other-side- ... slim-wife/
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Looking to the current scenerio Menace of RSS & Hindutva is less damaging to Muslims than the misdeed of (Saudi / Pakistani ) Wahabis.
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11 Hindus who converted to Islam 9 months ago, arrested by police, forced to become Hindus again by Bajrang Dal , VHP goons
According to an NDTV report ’on Tuesday, four men accompanied seven of their family members who wanted to convert to Islam to the district magistrate to seek his approval, but activists from Bajrang Dal and the Vishwa Hindu Parishad protested and tried to convince the family to give up the idea. A day later, they again took their relatives to the magistrate but were arrested and booked under Madhya Pradesh Freedom of Religion Act 1968 says media reports.
Seven other family members, including three women, were detained for questioning.
According to another Dainik Bhaskar, report ‘ Tularam Jatav of Bukarra village in Khaniyadhana area of Shivpuri district reached the DM office along with nine members of his family – five male and four female – to submit affidavit declaring their wish to convert to Islam voluntarily and without any pressure or incentive. As soon as they reached, the DM Rajiv Dubey left his chamber saying he was to attend some video conferencing. The family then met his deputy JDU Sheikh and came out of the office and proceeded toward the vehicle in which they had come from the village. Meanwhile, BJP leader Ashutosh Sharma appeared on the scene and stopped them from going.
As the size of mob started surging, the police took all members of the Dalit family away in a bid to control the situation from getting worse and to save the Dalit family says the Daily.
On Thursday, the police, without disclosing any information, let off the four arrested men on bail and the seven detained. The Jatavs reached their village in Thaniyadana area, offered their prayers at a local temple and after a “shuddhikaran” or purification ceremony, again adopted Hinduism.
Religious conversions are allowed in the state only if they are not forced. The people converting have to declare that it is voluntary and seek the state’s permission. This was what the men – Tularam Jatav, his son Keshav and relatives Maniram and Makhubhai Jatav – had apparently failed to do when they converted to Islam nine months ago.
http://muslimmirror.com/eng/11-people-a ... vhp-goons/
According to an NDTV report ’on Tuesday, four men accompanied seven of their family members who wanted to convert to Islam to the district magistrate to seek his approval, but activists from Bajrang Dal and the Vishwa Hindu Parishad protested and tried to convince the family to give up the idea. A day later, they again took their relatives to the magistrate but were arrested and booked under Madhya Pradesh Freedom of Religion Act 1968 says media reports.
Seven other family members, including three women, were detained for questioning.
According to another Dainik Bhaskar, report ‘ Tularam Jatav of Bukarra village in Khaniyadhana area of Shivpuri district reached the DM office along with nine members of his family – five male and four female – to submit affidavit declaring their wish to convert to Islam voluntarily and without any pressure or incentive. As soon as they reached, the DM Rajiv Dubey left his chamber saying he was to attend some video conferencing. The family then met his deputy JDU Sheikh and came out of the office and proceeded toward the vehicle in which they had come from the village. Meanwhile, BJP leader Ashutosh Sharma appeared on the scene and stopped them from going.
As the size of mob started surging, the police took all members of the Dalit family away in a bid to control the situation from getting worse and to save the Dalit family says the Daily.
On Thursday, the police, without disclosing any information, let off the four arrested men on bail and the seven detained. The Jatavs reached their village in Thaniyadana area, offered their prayers at a local temple and after a “shuddhikaran” or purification ceremony, again adopted Hinduism.
Religious conversions are allowed in the state only if they are not forced. The people converting have to declare that it is voluntary and seek the state’s permission. This was what the men – Tularam Jatav, his son Keshav and relatives Maniram and Makhubhai Jatav – had apparently failed to do when they converted to Islam nine months ago.
http://muslimmirror.com/eng/11-people-a ... vhp-goons/
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The ‘Love Jihad’ and Hitler
Hitler had used the similar tactic, as being used by Right wing in India against Muslims and Christians, to generate hatred and polarize German opinion against the Jews- the so called internal enemy, by making propaganda that Jewish young men had been luring the German girls and polluting the quality and purity of the Aryan blood with a view to subjugate German nation. The following passage from the ‘Mein Kamph’ by Hitler, as quoted by M.N.Roy in his book on ‘Fascism’ would be of interest :
“ The black haired Jewish youth lies for hours in ambush, a satanic joy in his face, for the unsuspecting girl whom he pollutes with his blood and steals from her own race. By every means, he seeks to wreck the racial bases of the nation he intends to subdue. Just as individually he deliberately befouls women and girls, so he never shrinks from breaking the barriers race has erected against foreign elements. It was, and is, the Jew who brought Negroes to the Rhine, brought them with the same aim and with deliberate intent to destroy the white race he hates, by persistent bastardization, to hurl it from the cultural and political heights it has attained, and to ascend to them as its masters. He deliberately seeks to lower the race level by steady corruption of the individual …(Hitler, Mein Kampf.)`
Hitler had used the similar tactic, as being used by Right wing in India against Muslims and Christians, to generate hatred and polarize German opinion against the Jews- the so called internal enemy, by making propaganda that Jewish young men had been luring the German girls and polluting the quality and purity of the Aryan blood with a view to subjugate German nation. The following passage from the ‘Mein Kamph’ by Hitler, as quoted by M.N.Roy in his book on ‘Fascism’ would be of interest :
“ The black haired Jewish youth lies for hours in ambush, a satanic joy in his face, for the unsuspecting girl whom he pollutes with his blood and steals from her own race. By every means, he seeks to wreck the racial bases of the nation he intends to subdue. Just as individually he deliberately befouls women and girls, so he never shrinks from breaking the barriers race has erected against foreign elements. It was, and is, the Jew who brought Negroes to the Rhine, brought them with the same aim and with deliberate intent to destroy the white race he hates, by persistent bastardization, to hurl it from the cultural and political heights it has attained, and to ascend to them as its masters. He deliberately seeks to lower the race level by steady corruption of the individual …(Hitler, Mein Kampf.)`
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Ghulam Bhai,
I think you are a Blot on a Secular India. I always feel you are Zaid Hamid (lal topi guy from Pakistan) of India. Please change your mentality. Muslims are more menace to every country and society they live in. its a world known fact. I don't know why you forget that this forum is for Dawoodi Bohras and there struggles, developments and debates too and not for your agenda of Anti-Hindu rants. I am more peaceful with my Hindu friends then Muslim friends (including Dawoodi Bohras). So I suggest you take your Crap topics to some where else..
with lots of regards,
Yousuf
I think you are a Blot on a Secular India. I always feel you are Zaid Hamid (lal topi guy from Pakistan) of India. Please change your mentality. Muslims are more menace to every country and society they live in. its a world known fact. I don't know why you forget that this forum is for Dawoodi Bohras and there struggles, developments and debates too and not for your agenda of Anti-Hindu rants. I am more peaceful with my Hindu friends then Muslim friends (including Dawoodi Bohras). So I suggest you take your Crap topics to some where else..
with lots of regards,
Yousuf
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Yousufbhai,Yousuf wrote:Ghulam Bhai,
I think you are a Blot on a Secular India. I always feel you are Zaid Hamid (lal topi guy from Pakistan) of India. Please change your mentality. Muslims are more menace to every country and society they live in. its a world known fact. I don't know why you forget that this forum is for Dawoodi Bohras and there struggles, developments and debates too and not for your agenda of Anti-Hindu rants. I am more peaceful with my Hindu friends then Muslim friends (including Dawoodi Bohras). So I suggest you take your Crap topics to some where else..
with lots of regards,
Yousuf
What type of secularism are you talking about ? If we as Muslims do not expose the misdeeds of these Hindutva leaders then who do you think should do it ? Will the Hindus themselves revolt against their Vishwa Hindu Parishad or RSS leaders ? Sorry to say but it seems that its actually YOU who are talking crap, it seems that you are a diehard Modi fan who has forgotten how he engineered the mass genocide in Gujarat where hundreds of Muslim women were raped en mass, pregnant women's stomachs were ripped open and trishuls were inserted in their private parts, business establishments and residences were burnt to ashes and due to this polarisation, even today Muslims (including Dawoodi Bohras) are not able to get a house in Hindu localities, probably you have not heard of the mass protest engineered by your buddy Praveen Togadia (VHP leader) against a Bohra gentleman who had purchased a bungalow in Rajkot in a Hindu locality. There are scores of such examples !
It is people like you who are the cause for the present turmoil in Muslim world as although you claim to be Muslims but have a deep rooted hatred for brothers in Islam, it is due to such people that the Shia/Sunni divide keeps on worsening and leaders like the Bohra high priest succeed in alienating their followers from mainstream Muslims. Hence, it is YOU who need to change your mentality and not me. This forum is definitely a platform for Dawoodi Bohras but please wear proper spectacles and see that there is a column "Islam Today" in which the burning issues concerning the Ummah are discussed.
Its due to people like you that the most flourishing business today is the media which is known for portraying biased views and news in order to increase their TRPs as they very well know that they have a ready market in gullibles like you.
And if you have so much hatred for Muslims then instead of advising me to leave the forum YOU please leave Islam as our religion doesn't need hypocrites like you. Please embrace Hinduism and join the RSS who will welcome you with open arms, this will strengthen your ties with your Hindu friends even further !!
Iam not against the average Hindus as I too have many Hindu friends but Iam definitely against the extremist Hindus and their organisations like VHP and RSS who are no different then the Talibans and Al-Qaeeda outfits.
Lastly, I also suggest that you take your crap to the RSS mouthpiece 'Panchajanya' instead of your rants on this forum !
with lots of regards,
Ghulam Muhammed.
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Gulam Bhai,
All in your life you can count Hindu extremist leaders. they are not more than your fingers in your hand. but If i count Muslim extremist you might have less hair in your head than the numbers. I am too not against an Average muslim, but people like you try to brain wash them by posting articles like above..and for your GK, I am not a big fan of Modi, but I am sure you might know what is the Supreme court verdict on that Riots. talking about Riots 90% of time it is initiated by muslims (even the Godhra) and Hindus retaliate. now please don't give me conspiracy theories like they were cooking in the train and the fire like your Hero Zaid Hamid gives. Housecoat of you People like salaar or an average pakistani make us embarrass. I don't understand one thing what is in the mind for such people? More muslims are killed by Muslims themselves then a NON Muslims but you guys don't dare to go against them. 10000's of people massacred by your friends of Islam (ISIS) but you still blame US and UK and then queue up outside their embassy to get visas to be in their country. Now I am sure what you mean by Hypocrisy. I would end my debate with this words Here : Muslims are the safest in INDIA then even in Saudi Arab or Pakistan or any Islamic country, and you cant deny that. Proud to be an Indian Muslim.
Regards
Further to Admin : I would also mention that I am not a regular contributor here and don't have time to post 7000+ copy paste articles so I might be not in this position to say they what needs to be debated or topics / columns to be here on this website. but I am a regualar reader like many and request that any article or topic not related to dawoodi bohras should be out of here.
Thank you
All in your life you can count Hindu extremist leaders. they are not more than your fingers in your hand. but If i count Muslim extremist you might have less hair in your head than the numbers. I am too not against an Average muslim, but people like you try to brain wash them by posting articles like above..and for your GK, I am not a big fan of Modi, but I am sure you might know what is the Supreme court verdict on that Riots. talking about Riots 90% of time it is initiated by muslims (even the Godhra) and Hindus retaliate. now please don't give me conspiracy theories like they were cooking in the train and the fire like your Hero Zaid Hamid gives. Housecoat of you People like salaar or an average pakistani make us embarrass. I don't understand one thing what is in the mind for such people? More muslims are killed by Muslims themselves then a NON Muslims but you guys don't dare to go against them. 10000's of people massacred by your friends of Islam (ISIS) but you still blame US and UK and then queue up outside their embassy to get visas to be in their country. Now I am sure what you mean by Hypocrisy. I would end my debate with this words Here : Muslims are the safest in INDIA then even in Saudi Arab or Pakistan or any Islamic country, and you cant deny that. Proud to be an Indian Muslim.
Regards
Further to Admin : I would also mention that I am not a regular contributor here and don't have time to post 7000+ copy paste articles so I might be not in this position to say they what needs to be debated or topics / columns to be here on this website. but I am a regualar reader like many and request that any article or topic not related to dawoodi bohras should be out of here.
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Re: The Menace Of RSS And Hindutva.
Yousufbhai,Yousuf wrote:All in your life you can count Hindu extremist leaders. they are not more than your fingers in your hand. but If i count Muslim extremist you might have less hair in your head than the numbers.
Compare the Muslim population with Hindus and then tell me the percentage of extremists in Hinduism. Their numbers are bound to increase manifold now as Modi led BJP government is in power and almost every murderer like Maya Kodnani, Babu Bajrangi, Vanzara etc. have been granted bail. FYI, I don't deny the presence of Muslim extremists and I consider them a blot on Islam.
Please enlighten me with regard to the verdict and also please go through various reports prepared by Amnesty International and others on Gujarat riots.Yousuf wrote:I am sure you might know what is the Supreme court verdict on that Riots.
Firstly, I don't know who this Zaid Hamid fellow is !! And you are speaking the exact language of BJP and VHP/RSS who cooked up fascinating stories about Godhra train burning episode, before commenting further please view the thread "Gujarat Mass Genocide" on this forum and read first hand accounts of various fact finding committees including foreign agencies and HINDU journalists and HINDU authors.Yousuf wrote:talking about Riots 90% of time it is initiated by muslims (even the Godhra) and Hindus retaliate. now please don't give me conspiracy theories like they were cooking in the train and the fire like your Hero Zaid Hamid gives.
No one in his right mind could ever deny the above facts and regarding my views on these elements, please read the articles and my personal comments on this forum wherein I have always condemned them and their activities.Yousuf wrote:More muslims are killed by Muslims themselves then a NON Muslims but you guys don't dare to go against them.
You again sound like an RSS mouthpiece, if you speak for Muslims then you are labelled ISIS, Taliban or Wahabi and FYI, the ISIS is not my friend like your bosom pals in BJP/RSS/VHP. I have not yet visited US and UK so the question of me standing in a queue does not arise and if people stand in queues for US/UK visas then they do the same for other countries like Saudi, UAE, Kuwait also.Yousuf wrote:10000's of people massacred by your friends of Islam (ISIS) but you still blame US and UK and then queue up outside their embassy to get visas to be in their country.
I don't deny the above but you need to also ask this question to the victims of Gujarat and Babri Masjid demolition riots. Iam also proud to be an Indian Muslim because as a true Muslim I love my motherland and it is my duty to be loyal to my country.Yousuf wrote:Muslims are the safest in INDIA then even in Saudi Arab or Pakistan or any Islamic country, and you cant deny that. Proud to be an Indian Muslim.
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Re: The Menace Of RSS And Hindutva.
First Terrorist of Independent India
What could be said to be the first act of terrorism in independent India?
Everybody would agree that killing of Mahatma Gandhi by a Hindu fanatic Nathuram Godse constitutes the first terrorist act in independent India. Godse, a Maharashtrian Brahmin, hailing from Pune was associated with Hindu Mahasabha at the time of Mahatma’s assassination and had his initial forays in the world of politics with the RSS. During his tour of the area Hedgewar, the first supremo of RSS, use to be accompanied by Nathuram , the future assassin of Gandhi. Godse had in fact joined the RSS in 1930, winning prominence as a speaker and organiser.
The world at large knows how the Hindu fanatics had planned the murder of the Mahatma and how the likes of Savarkar and Golwalkar, the second Supremo of RSS could be held to be responsible for creating the ambience of hate which culminated in the gruesome act. Sardar Patel’s letter to Shyama Prasad Mookerjee, who was then member Hindu Mahasabha and who later formed Bharatiya Jansangh with RSS’s support provides enough details about the background (18 th July, 1948)
Very few people know the animosity maintained by Hindutva fanatics towards Gandhi which was evident in four attempts on his life before Nathuram Godse’s final attempt. (Chunibhai Vaidya, a leading Gandhian from Gujarat talks about total six attempts. Apart from the details of various attempts mentioned below he talks about an attempt on his life in Sept 1946 also.)
The first one happened in Pune (25 th June 1934) when Mahatma Gandhi was going to Corporation auditorium to deliver a speech. Kasturba Gandhi, his wife was also accompanying him. Incidentally the car in which Gandhis were travelling developed some snag and was delayed whereas the other car which was in their motorcade reached the venue where a bomb was thrown at the car. The explosion caused injuries to some policemen and ordinary people.
The second attempt on Mahatma Gandhi’s life also involved his future assasin namely Nathuram Godse. Gandhi was visiting Panchagani, a hill station near Pune (May 1944) where a young crowd of 15-20 young people came through a chartered bus. They organised a daylong protest demonstration against him but refused to talk when Gandhi invited them. During the prayer meeting in the evening Nathuram rushed towards Gandhi with a dagger in his hand where he was overpowered by others.
The third attempt happened when Gandhi’s talks with Jinnah started in Sep 1944. When Gandhi was leaving for Mumbai from Sevagram Ashram, a group of fanatic Hindu youth led by Nathuram Godse tried to stop him.Their contention was that Gandhi does not travel to Mumbai to hold talks with Jinnah. Nathuram was again found in possession of a dagger.
The fourth attempt on Gandhi’s life (20 th January 1948) involved roughly the same group namely Madanlal Pahwa, Shankar Kistaiya, Digambar Badge, Vishnu Karkare, Gopal Godse, Nathuram Godse, and Narayan Apte. The plan was to attack Mahatma Gandhi and Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy. In this failed attempt Madanlal Pahwa placed a cotton ball enclosing a bomb on the wall behind the podium in Birla Bhavan, where Gandhi was staying. The bomb went off without creating any panic, although Madanlal Pahwa was caught. Other members of the group who were assigned to shoot Gandhi in the ensuing melee developed cold feet and did not act.
And the last one happened on 30 th January at 5:17 p.m. when Nathuram Godse approached him and shot him three times in his chest at point blank range. All those involved in the crime were arrested and were tried in a court which attracted lot of media attention. Nathuram Godse and Narayan Apte were sentenced to death by the courts and others were awarded life imprisonment. As far as Savarkar was concerned he was acquitted and set free due to lack of evidence. It was worth noting that Jawaharlal Nehru as well as Gandhi’s two sons, who felt that the two men were merely pawns of top Hindutva leaders, demanded commutation of their death sentence as they sincerely felt that executing the assassins would in fact dishonour their father’s legacy who was a staunch opponent of death penalty. Nathuram Godse as well as the other conspirator Narayan Apte were hanged at Ambala Jail on November 15, 1949.
And looking at the fourteen year old history of unsuccessful attempts on his life, it becomes clear that the conspiracy to eliminate Gandhiji was conceived much earlier than the successful accomplishment thereof. The grounds advanced for such a heinous crime could be seen as clever rationalisation to hoodwink the gullible.
If somebody poses before you another simple query relating to similar episodes in the sixty plus year trajectory of independent India – then what would be your response. Perhaps you would like to add the death of Indira Gandhi – killed by her Sikh bodyguards , killing of Rajeev Gandhi – who fell to a suicide attack by a Tamil Hindu woman, or for that matter demolition of the 500 year old Babri mosque by the marauders of the RSS-VHP-BJP-Shiv Sena. If one follows the debate further you would like to underline the 1984 riots ( actually genocide of Sikhs mainly perpetrated by Hindu lumpen elements instigated by the then ruling Congress Party with due connivance of Hindutva brigade), emergence of Khalistani terrorists movement or the eight year old Gujarat genocide executed with military precision allegedly by the RSS and its affiliated organisations led by one of those Hindu Hriday Samrats.
Compare all these major episodes in the history of Independent india – which encompassed many a terrorist acts within them – with the mental image which conjures up in your mind or which finds prominence in the media when one listens to any terrorist act in any part of the country. Does it have any resemblance with the image of a member of the majority community or one of those minority communities ? You would agree that the mental image/projected image has features specific to one of the religious minorities in our country. If in the late eighties or early nineties it would have been the image of a turbaned Sikh, the end of first decade of the 21st century has found its replacement with a bearded Muslim.
Question naturally arises why is it that despite their participation in many a gruesome incidents, the role played by them in instigating riots (as noted by many a commissions of enquiry) or there [their]admission before camera about the planning which went in making a genocide happen (courtesy Tehelka sting operation or the interview given by Keka Shastri to rediff.com) the Hindu fanatic has not become a part of our social common sense. Why when someone called Sadhvi Pragya or Major Purohit or Dayanand Pandey or for that matter Swami Aseemanand are found to be engaged in conspiring and executing terrorist acts and police decipher their certain involvement in similar sinister operations earlier as well, we are ready to call them ‘exception’ and when a completely innocent Muslim youth is arrested by the police, the media is ready to paint him the real mastermind of few terrorist acts. Why the slogan coined by one of the majoritarian formations ‘All Muslims are not terrorists but all terrorists are Muslim’ does not receive broadest possible condemnation which it deserves.
We find ourselves in a situation where while ‘communalism’ of the majority community could be construed as ‘nationalism’, every assertion by the minority community on genuine demands tends to be seen with a ‘communal’ colour. And it follows from this that ‘terrorism’ unleashed by the majoritarians is easily disguised under the bursting of ‘pent up anger’ against the minorities whereas ‘terrorist acts’ committed by minorities of different kinds are construed as the biggest danger facing the nation.
The need of the hour is to understand that ‘terrorism’ cannot be the monopoly of a particular community. And it is a product of the typical circumstances which societies encounter or find themselves in and the nature of the dominant or dominated forces in operation in those societies and their larger worldview.
In this connection the most important lesson, which should be remembered, is that the law and order machinery should be even handed in its approach in unearthing the truth behind every terrorist incident or act. It should not repeat its earlier folly of stigmatizing the whole community, which it is alleged to have engaged in during last few years after similar terrorist acts. It should also not be seen going soft on Hindu militant formations for fear of providing political capital to Hindutva organizations.
Time to remember that Godse might be dead but the danger of Godse’s worldview gaining further legitimacy exists.
http://kafila.org/2013/11/15/first-terr ... ent-india/
What could be said to be the first act of terrorism in independent India?
Everybody would agree that killing of Mahatma Gandhi by a Hindu fanatic Nathuram Godse constitutes the first terrorist act in independent India. Godse, a Maharashtrian Brahmin, hailing from Pune was associated with Hindu Mahasabha at the time of Mahatma’s assassination and had his initial forays in the world of politics with the RSS. During his tour of the area Hedgewar, the first supremo of RSS, use to be accompanied by Nathuram , the future assassin of Gandhi. Godse had in fact joined the RSS in 1930, winning prominence as a speaker and organiser.
The world at large knows how the Hindu fanatics had planned the murder of the Mahatma and how the likes of Savarkar and Golwalkar, the second Supremo of RSS could be held to be responsible for creating the ambience of hate which culminated in the gruesome act. Sardar Patel’s letter to Shyama Prasad Mookerjee, who was then member Hindu Mahasabha and who later formed Bharatiya Jansangh with RSS’s support provides enough details about the background (18 th July, 1948)
Very few people know the animosity maintained by Hindutva fanatics towards Gandhi which was evident in four attempts on his life before Nathuram Godse’s final attempt. (Chunibhai Vaidya, a leading Gandhian from Gujarat talks about total six attempts. Apart from the details of various attempts mentioned below he talks about an attempt on his life in Sept 1946 also.)
The first one happened in Pune (25 th June 1934) when Mahatma Gandhi was going to Corporation auditorium to deliver a speech. Kasturba Gandhi, his wife was also accompanying him. Incidentally the car in which Gandhis were travelling developed some snag and was delayed whereas the other car which was in their motorcade reached the venue where a bomb was thrown at the car. The explosion caused injuries to some policemen and ordinary people.
The second attempt on Mahatma Gandhi’s life also involved his future assasin namely Nathuram Godse. Gandhi was visiting Panchagani, a hill station near Pune (May 1944) where a young crowd of 15-20 young people came through a chartered bus. They organised a daylong protest demonstration against him but refused to talk when Gandhi invited them. During the prayer meeting in the evening Nathuram rushed towards Gandhi with a dagger in his hand where he was overpowered by others.
The third attempt happened when Gandhi’s talks with Jinnah started in Sep 1944. When Gandhi was leaving for Mumbai from Sevagram Ashram, a group of fanatic Hindu youth led by Nathuram Godse tried to stop him.Their contention was that Gandhi does not travel to Mumbai to hold talks with Jinnah. Nathuram was again found in possession of a dagger.
The fourth attempt on Gandhi’s life (20 th January 1948) involved roughly the same group namely Madanlal Pahwa, Shankar Kistaiya, Digambar Badge, Vishnu Karkare, Gopal Godse, Nathuram Godse, and Narayan Apte. The plan was to attack Mahatma Gandhi and Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy. In this failed attempt Madanlal Pahwa placed a cotton ball enclosing a bomb on the wall behind the podium in Birla Bhavan, where Gandhi was staying. The bomb went off without creating any panic, although Madanlal Pahwa was caught. Other members of the group who were assigned to shoot Gandhi in the ensuing melee developed cold feet and did not act.
And the last one happened on 30 th January at 5:17 p.m. when Nathuram Godse approached him and shot him three times in his chest at point blank range. All those involved in the crime were arrested and were tried in a court which attracted lot of media attention. Nathuram Godse and Narayan Apte were sentenced to death by the courts and others were awarded life imprisonment. As far as Savarkar was concerned he was acquitted and set free due to lack of evidence. It was worth noting that Jawaharlal Nehru as well as Gandhi’s two sons, who felt that the two men were merely pawns of top Hindutva leaders, demanded commutation of their death sentence as they sincerely felt that executing the assassins would in fact dishonour their father’s legacy who was a staunch opponent of death penalty. Nathuram Godse as well as the other conspirator Narayan Apte were hanged at Ambala Jail on November 15, 1949.
And looking at the fourteen year old history of unsuccessful attempts on his life, it becomes clear that the conspiracy to eliminate Gandhiji was conceived much earlier than the successful accomplishment thereof. The grounds advanced for such a heinous crime could be seen as clever rationalisation to hoodwink the gullible.
If somebody poses before you another simple query relating to similar episodes in the sixty plus year trajectory of independent India – then what would be your response. Perhaps you would like to add the death of Indira Gandhi – killed by her Sikh bodyguards , killing of Rajeev Gandhi – who fell to a suicide attack by a Tamil Hindu woman, or for that matter demolition of the 500 year old Babri mosque by the marauders of the RSS-VHP-BJP-Shiv Sena. If one follows the debate further you would like to underline the 1984 riots ( actually genocide of Sikhs mainly perpetrated by Hindu lumpen elements instigated by the then ruling Congress Party with due connivance of Hindutva brigade), emergence of Khalistani terrorists movement or the eight year old Gujarat genocide executed with military precision allegedly by the RSS and its affiliated organisations led by one of those Hindu Hriday Samrats.
Compare all these major episodes in the history of Independent india – which encompassed many a terrorist acts within them – with the mental image which conjures up in your mind or which finds prominence in the media when one listens to any terrorist act in any part of the country. Does it have any resemblance with the image of a member of the majority community or one of those minority communities ? You would agree that the mental image/projected image has features specific to one of the religious minorities in our country. If in the late eighties or early nineties it would have been the image of a turbaned Sikh, the end of first decade of the 21st century has found its replacement with a bearded Muslim.
Question naturally arises why is it that despite their participation in many a gruesome incidents, the role played by them in instigating riots (as noted by many a commissions of enquiry) or there [their]admission before camera about the planning which went in making a genocide happen (courtesy Tehelka sting operation or the interview given by Keka Shastri to rediff.com) the Hindu fanatic has not become a part of our social common sense. Why when someone called Sadhvi Pragya or Major Purohit or Dayanand Pandey or for that matter Swami Aseemanand are found to be engaged in conspiring and executing terrorist acts and police decipher their certain involvement in similar sinister operations earlier as well, we are ready to call them ‘exception’ and when a completely innocent Muslim youth is arrested by the police, the media is ready to paint him the real mastermind of few terrorist acts. Why the slogan coined by one of the majoritarian formations ‘All Muslims are not terrorists but all terrorists are Muslim’ does not receive broadest possible condemnation which it deserves.
We find ourselves in a situation where while ‘communalism’ of the majority community could be construed as ‘nationalism’, every assertion by the minority community on genuine demands tends to be seen with a ‘communal’ colour. And it follows from this that ‘terrorism’ unleashed by the majoritarians is easily disguised under the bursting of ‘pent up anger’ against the minorities whereas ‘terrorist acts’ committed by minorities of different kinds are construed as the biggest danger facing the nation.
The need of the hour is to understand that ‘terrorism’ cannot be the monopoly of a particular community. And it is a product of the typical circumstances which societies encounter or find themselves in and the nature of the dominant or dominated forces in operation in those societies and their larger worldview.
In this connection the most important lesson, which should be remembered, is that the law and order machinery should be even handed in its approach in unearthing the truth behind every terrorist incident or act. It should not repeat its earlier folly of stigmatizing the whole community, which it is alleged to have engaged in during last few years after similar terrorist acts. It should also not be seen going soft on Hindu militant formations for fear of providing political capital to Hindutva organizations.
Time to remember that Godse might be dead but the danger of Godse’s worldview gaining further legitimacy exists.
http://kafila.org/2013/11/15/first-terr ... ent-india/
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After Love-Jihad now there is Garba-Jihad. Hindu terrorists under Modi Raj are targeting Muslim boys not to enter Garba Pandaals.
For so many years everyone was invited for the event as Garba wa considered as more of social activity rather than religious.
Many Modi supporters are now saying that Garba has Mother Durga Idols & Muslims are not supposed to make venue unclean.
Others are saying Hindu girls are unsafe if Muslim boys are not banned.
For so many years everyone was invited for the event as Garba wa considered as more of social activity rather than religious.
Many Modi supporters are now saying that Garba has Mother Durga Idols & Muslims are not supposed to make venue unclean.
Others are saying Hindu girls are unsafe if Muslim boys are not banned.
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Re: The Menace Of RSS And Hindutva.
दुनियादारी की चादर ओढ़ी है।
पर जिस दिन
दिमाग सटका ना,इतिहास
तो इतिहास।भूगोल
भी बदल देंग~~~~~~
पर जिस दिन
दिमाग सटका ना,इतिहास
तो इतिहास।भूगोल
भी बदल देंग~~~~~~
Re: The Menace Of RSS And Hindutva.
We should be thankful to them. The Muslims shouldn't be going to these hindu festivals in any case.After Love-Jihad now there is Garba-Jihad. Hindu terrorists under Modi Raj are targeting Muslim boys not to enter Garba Pandaals.
There is an example of this in the life of prophet Mohammad (saw). During the first haj after the message was revealed out in the open, the fear amongst the pagans of Mecca was that the prophet (saw) will visit the hajis and tell them about Islam. But the prophet (saw) had only a handful of followers at that time. There is no way he could've visited all the tents setup for the hajis. The pagans however sent their representatives to every tent to warn them about the message of Islam and unwittingly informed every single haji about the prophet's mission. God used the pagans to spread the word!!
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MINORITIES UNDER ATTACK
PUBLIC MEETING
SEPTEMBER 27, 2014
JANTAR MANTAR
3PM-7PM
Minorities in India are facing unprecedented violence and discrimination. The hate crimes against minorities are fuelled by rhetoric against the community and sadly, often, go unreported and unaddressed. We are getting reports on a daily basis from different states that communal organisations and political leaders are leading physical attacks and hate campaigns against Muslims and Christians in a systematic manner. The situation is so critical that even a person of eminence like Fali Nariman went on record to voice his concern:
“We have been hearing on television and reading in newspapers almost on a daily basis a tirade by one or more individuals or groups against one or another section of citizens who belong to a religious minority and the criticism has been that the majority government at the Centre has done nothing to stop this tirade,” …
"And how does one protect the interest of minorities who (or a section of which) are on a daily basis lampooned and ridiculed or spoken against in derogatory language?" Fali Nariman.
The attacks have assumed alarming proportions. Various civil right and constitutional right groups and minority right organisations are holding a Public Meeting to raise the issue of defence of minority rights, the right to live with dignity as equal citizens of India.
We are organising a Public Meeting on 27 September, 2014 from 3pm to 7pm at Jantar Mantar.
AN EVENING OF SPEECHES, MUSIC, POETRY & STATEMENTS BY HUMAN RIGHT & MINORITY RIGHTS ACTIVISTS, INTELLECTUALS , RELIGIOUS LEADERS AND REPRESENTATIVES OF SECULAR POLITICAL PARTIES.
SPEAKERS
Ali Anwar-JDU, Amarjeet Kaur-CPI, Apoorvanand, Archbishop Anil jt Couto, Colin Gonsalves, Dr Zafarul- Islam Khan, Harsh Mander, Harvinder Singh Sarna, John Dayal, Kiran Shaheen, Kunwar Danish-JDS, Manish Tiwari-Congress, Manisha Sethi, Maulana Mehmood Madani- TBC, Navaid Hamid, Paul Divakar, Sheba Farooqui, Shabnam Hashmi, Syeda Hameed, Zakia Soman.
JOIN US
ORGANISED BY:
1. ALL INDIA CHRISTIAN MINORITY FRONT
2. ALL INDIA DALIT MAHILA ADHIKAR MANCH (AIDMAM)
3. ALL INDIA DEMOCRATIC WOMEN'S ASSOCIATION (AIDWA)
4. ALL INDIA CATHOLIC UNION
5. ALL INDIA MILLI COUNCIL
6. ALL INDIA MUSLIM MAJLIS-E-MUSHAWARAT
7. ALLIANCE DEFENDING FREEDOM
8. AMAN BIRADARI
9. ANHAD
10. BHARTIYA MUSLIM MAHILA ANDOLAN (BMMA)
11. CBCI OFFICE FOR SC/BC
12. CHRISTIAN LEGAL ASSOCIATION
13. FEDERATION OF CATHOLIC ASSOCIATIONS OF DELHI
14. HUMAN RIGHTS LAW NETWORK
15. INDIAN SOCIAL INSTITUTE
16. JAMIA TEACHER’S SOLIDARITY ASSOCIATION
17. JAMIAT ULEMA-E-HIND
18. JESUITS IN SOCIAL ACTION (JESA)
19. MOEMIN
20. MUSLIM WOMEN'S FORUM
21. NATIONAL CAMPAIGN ON DALIT HUMAN RIGHTS (NCDHR)
22. NATIONAL FORUM FOR HOUSING RIGHTS (NFHR)
23. OFFICE FOR JUSTICE, PEACE AND DEVELOPMENT – CBCI
24. PEOPLE’S ALLIANCE FOR DEMOCRACY & SECULARISM (PADS)
25. RELIGIOUS LIBERTY COMMISSION
26. SOUTH ASIAN MINORITIES LAWYERS ASSOCIATION (SAMLA)
27. SHAHRI ADHIKAR MANCH: BEGHARON KE SAATH (SAM:BKS)
28. STANDING TOGETHER TO ENABLE PEACE TRUST
29. WING INDIA (WOMEN IN GOVERNANCE)
30. WSS (WOMEN-AGAINST-SEXUAL-VIOLENCE & STATE REPRESSION)
31. YWCA INDIA
PUBLIC MEETING
SEPTEMBER 27, 2014
JANTAR MANTAR
3PM-7PM
Minorities in India are facing unprecedented violence and discrimination. The hate crimes against minorities are fuelled by rhetoric against the community and sadly, often, go unreported and unaddressed. We are getting reports on a daily basis from different states that communal organisations and political leaders are leading physical attacks and hate campaigns against Muslims and Christians in a systematic manner. The situation is so critical that even a person of eminence like Fali Nariman went on record to voice his concern:
“We have been hearing on television and reading in newspapers almost on a daily basis a tirade by one or more individuals or groups against one or another section of citizens who belong to a religious minority and the criticism has been that the majority government at the Centre has done nothing to stop this tirade,” …
"And how does one protect the interest of minorities who (or a section of which) are on a daily basis lampooned and ridiculed or spoken against in derogatory language?" Fali Nariman.
The attacks have assumed alarming proportions. Various civil right and constitutional right groups and minority right organisations are holding a Public Meeting to raise the issue of defence of minority rights, the right to live with dignity as equal citizens of India.
We are organising a Public Meeting on 27 September, 2014 from 3pm to 7pm at Jantar Mantar.
AN EVENING OF SPEECHES, MUSIC, POETRY & STATEMENTS BY HUMAN RIGHT & MINORITY RIGHTS ACTIVISTS, INTELLECTUALS , RELIGIOUS LEADERS AND REPRESENTATIVES OF SECULAR POLITICAL PARTIES.
SPEAKERS
Ali Anwar-JDU, Amarjeet Kaur-CPI, Apoorvanand, Archbishop Anil jt Couto, Colin Gonsalves, Dr Zafarul- Islam Khan, Harsh Mander, Harvinder Singh Sarna, John Dayal, Kiran Shaheen, Kunwar Danish-JDS, Manish Tiwari-Congress, Manisha Sethi, Maulana Mehmood Madani- TBC, Navaid Hamid, Paul Divakar, Sheba Farooqui, Shabnam Hashmi, Syeda Hameed, Zakia Soman.
JOIN US
ORGANISED BY:
1. ALL INDIA CHRISTIAN MINORITY FRONT
2. ALL INDIA DALIT MAHILA ADHIKAR MANCH (AIDMAM)
3. ALL INDIA DEMOCRATIC WOMEN'S ASSOCIATION (AIDWA)
4. ALL INDIA CATHOLIC UNION
5. ALL INDIA MILLI COUNCIL
6. ALL INDIA MUSLIM MAJLIS-E-MUSHAWARAT
7. ALLIANCE DEFENDING FREEDOM
8. AMAN BIRADARI
9. ANHAD
10. BHARTIYA MUSLIM MAHILA ANDOLAN (BMMA)
11. CBCI OFFICE FOR SC/BC
12. CHRISTIAN LEGAL ASSOCIATION
13. FEDERATION OF CATHOLIC ASSOCIATIONS OF DELHI
14. HUMAN RIGHTS LAW NETWORK
15. INDIAN SOCIAL INSTITUTE
16. JAMIA TEACHER’S SOLIDARITY ASSOCIATION
17. JAMIAT ULEMA-E-HIND
18. JESUITS IN SOCIAL ACTION (JESA)
19. MOEMIN
20. MUSLIM WOMEN'S FORUM
21. NATIONAL CAMPAIGN ON DALIT HUMAN RIGHTS (NCDHR)
22. NATIONAL FORUM FOR HOUSING RIGHTS (NFHR)
23. OFFICE FOR JUSTICE, PEACE AND DEVELOPMENT – CBCI
24. PEOPLE’S ALLIANCE FOR DEMOCRACY & SECULARISM (PADS)
25. RELIGIOUS LIBERTY COMMISSION
26. SOUTH ASIAN MINORITIES LAWYERS ASSOCIATION (SAMLA)
27. SHAHRI ADHIKAR MANCH: BEGHARON KE SAATH (SAM:BKS)
28. STANDING TOGETHER TO ENABLE PEACE TRUST
29. WING INDIA (WOMEN IN GOVERNANCE)
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Double standard: Hasan arrest on garba remark, but what about others, ask JamiatDr Fatema wrote:After Love-Jihad now there is Garba-Jihad. Hindu terrorists under Modi Raj are targeting Muslim boys not to enter Garba Pandaals.For so many years everyone was invited for the event as Garba wa considered as more of social activity rather than religious.Many Modi supporters are now saying that Garba has Mother Durga Idols & Muslims are not supposed to make venue unclean.Others are saying Hindu girls are unsafe if Muslim boys are not banned.
Reacting on Sufi Mehdi Hasan arrest over his controversial remark on garba, Jamiat Ulema-i-Hind (M) leader and ex MP Mahmood Madani demanded the same action against those who spew venom against Muslims and Islam. He said a number of leaders belonging to BJP, VHP and other right wing groups more often made hateful speeches, but no action has been taken against them yet. This is clear example of double-standard, he said.
Everyone knows the dirty, uncouth and hateful language of Parveen Togadia and his ilk, but no action has been taken against them. He, however, made it clear that Hasan remark on garba was unacceptable. On Garba , he said it is good that Muslim youths have been stopped taking part it as they are followers of monotheism. this should be blessing in disguise as garba dance is associated with deity Durga. He also expressed deep concern over the communalisation of police officers. Referring to Yahoo Chat on Top Cop, he said a peaceful and civilized society can only be formed by treating everybody equal before the law.
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RSS rewrites history: Dalits 'created' by invaders
In its renewed impetus to woo Dalits, various other castes and sub-castes, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) has embarked on an ambitious exercise to re-write history.
Three top RSS leaders have sought to attribute the genesis of Dalits, tribals and many other groups to “Muslim invasion” in medieval times.
The Sangh leaders claimed that these castes had come into existence due to atrocities by foreign invaders and did not exist in Hindu religion earlier.
According to Bhaiyyaji Joshi, No.2 in RSS hierarchy, ‘shudras’ were never untouchables in Hindu scriptures. ‘Islamic atrocities’ during the medieval age resulted in the emergence of untouchables, Dalits and Indian Muslims.
“To violate Hindu swabhiman (dignity) of Chanwarvanshiya Kshatriyas, foreign invaders from Arab, Muslim rulers and beef-eaters, forced them to do abominable works like killing cows, skinning them and throwing their carcasses in deserted places. Foreign invaders thus created a caste of charma-karma (dealing with skin) by giving such works as punishment to proud Hindu prisoners.”
“Dalits had their genesis during Turks, Muslims and Mughal eras. Today’s castes like Valmikis, Sudarshan, Majhabi Sikhs and their 624 sub-castes came into being as a result of atrocities against Brahmins and Kshatriyas during Medieval or Islamic age,”
The RSS has been focusing on research in this area of late. One of its affiliated organisations had recently organised a conclave of over 100 historians to discuss historiography and changes required to give a proper perspective.
An overarching Hindu identity beyond any castes or sub-castes is an objective that the RSS has been striving for decades, despite being projected as an upper caste outfit. The BJP itself, under the stewardship of Narendra Modi and Amit Shah, has been actively reaching out to Dalits and OBCs. The Sangh’s latest move looks set to re-ignite a debate on history and historians.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... 66920.aspx
In its renewed impetus to woo Dalits, various other castes and sub-castes, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) has embarked on an ambitious exercise to re-write history.
Three top RSS leaders have sought to attribute the genesis of Dalits, tribals and many other groups to “Muslim invasion” in medieval times.
The Sangh leaders claimed that these castes had come into existence due to atrocities by foreign invaders and did not exist in Hindu religion earlier.
According to Bhaiyyaji Joshi, No.2 in RSS hierarchy, ‘shudras’ were never untouchables in Hindu scriptures. ‘Islamic atrocities’ during the medieval age resulted in the emergence of untouchables, Dalits and Indian Muslims.
“To violate Hindu swabhiman (dignity) of Chanwarvanshiya Kshatriyas, foreign invaders from Arab, Muslim rulers and beef-eaters, forced them to do abominable works like killing cows, skinning them and throwing their carcasses in deserted places. Foreign invaders thus created a caste of charma-karma (dealing with skin) by giving such works as punishment to proud Hindu prisoners.”
“Dalits had their genesis during Turks, Muslims and Mughal eras. Today’s castes like Valmikis, Sudarshan, Majhabi Sikhs and their 624 sub-castes came into being as a result of atrocities against Brahmins and Kshatriyas during Medieval or Islamic age,”
The RSS has been focusing on research in this area of late. One of its affiliated organisations had recently organised a conclave of over 100 historians to discuss historiography and changes required to give a proper perspective.
An overarching Hindu identity beyond any castes or sub-castes is an objective that the RSS has been striving for decades, despite being projected as an upper caste outfit. The BJP itself, under the stewardship of Narendra Modi and Amit Shah, has been actively reaching out to Dalits and OBCs. The Sangh’s latest move looks set to re-ignite a debate on history and historians.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... 66920.aspx
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If there was a “conspiracy” in Godhra, it was not by the Muslims. ASHISH KHETAN picks apart Judge Patel’s verdict and shows how a devious lie was constructedYousuf wrote:talking about Riots 90% of time it is initiated by muslims (even the Godhra) and Hindus retaliate. now please don't give me conspiracy theories like they were cooking in the train and the fire like your Hero Zaid Hamid gives.
WHAT WAS the motive behind these nine false testimonies by BJP members? Were there instructions from the top? Why did the police write out pre-fabricated testimonies? Why were they passed off as eyewitnesses?
To establish the culpability of Muslims cutting across social and economic strata, the police also booked 134 Muslims of varying descriptions. Of these, only 94 were tried (17 went absconding, 13 were released for lack of evidence, 5 died during trial, 5 were juveniles and not tried). Proof of the cavalier way Muslims were being accused, Maulvi Punjabi was named as an inciter. But he wasn’t even in the country then.
It’s important to recall that, in its 2007 sting investigation (The Truth about Gujarat 2002), TEHELKA had exposed that these nine BJP men who were cited as eyewitnesses were, in fact, not even present at the scene of crime. They had been asked to give false testimonies by the police to further the Modi government’s communal and political agenda, and they had gone along to “serve the cause of Hindutva”.
Two petrol pump attendants who claim they sold 140 litres of fuel to some Muslims on 26 Feb
Ranjitsinh and Pratapsinh Patel had first told the police that they had not sold any loose petrol that crucial night. In a shocking turnaround, six months later, they changed their version. However, TEHELKA caught Ranjitsinh admitting on camera that he and Pratap had been bribed Rs. 50,000 by police officer Noel Parmar to do that. He also tutored them to identify particular Muslims in court as being the buyers. Noel Parmar was the chief investigative officer. But he was far from neutral. He hated Muslims and cursed them for having 10 children.
What happened to the Sabarmati Express on 27 February 2002 will always be a blot on the nation’s conscience. It deserves fair but harsh retribution. There can be no arguing that. What is being argued is whether this was a horrific upsurge of mob anger or a premeditated conspiracy. That there was a conspiracy afoot in Gujarat those years is undoubtable. But as this story shows, it was a conspiracy of a different kind. It was a conspiracy designed to rent the fabric of this country: a conspiracy by State machinery to blacken one community’s name. And declare them the enemy.
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Top cops divided on ‘love jihad’
“Love jihad” may be merely a fear fantasy of Hindutva propagandists, but the campaign has struck a chord with several senior police officers across the country.
Such is the traction that “love jihad”— the notion that there is a global Islamist conspiracy to seduce Hindu women and convert them to Islam — has gained among a section of Indian Police Service (IPS) officers that a debate on the subject on “TopCop,” a discussion forum on Yahoo!, had to be discontinued after some members turned vituperative against Muslims and Islam.
Serving and retired IPS officers are members of the TopCop Internet forum and The Hindu was allowed access by one of them who found the trend “disturbing and alarming.”
“What is shocking is not to know that such prejudices exist among us because we knew that always. That IPS officers can say such things with such brazenness adds another dimension, which is new,” the officer told The Hindu.
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“Love jihad” may be merely a fear fantasy of Hindutva propagandists, but the campaign has struck a chord with several senior police officers across the country.
Such is the traction that “love jihad”— the notion that there is a global Islamist conspiracy to seduce Hindu women and convert them to Islam — has gained among a section of Indian Police Service (IPS) officers that a debate on the subject on “TopCop,” a discussion forum on Yahoo!, had to be discontinued after some members turned vituperative against Muslims and Islam.
Serving and retired IPS officers are members of the TopCop Internet forum and The Hindu was allowed access by one of them who found the trend “disturbing and alarming.”
“What is shocking is not to know that such prejudices exist among us because we knew that always. That IPS officers can say such things with such brazenness adds another dimension, which is new,” the officer told The Hindu.
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Communal tension continues in Bawana, North Delhi
The situation in Bawana area of North-West Delhi remains sensitive after some anti-social elements are continously trying to instigate Hindu-Muslim violence.
A few days back on 2 October, some 200 Hindu youths riding motorcycles and cars paraded the area with police protection in the name of preventing cow slaughter. Muslims will be observing Eid-ul-Adha on 6 October, Monday, but no one in Delhi sacrifices cows, respecting the sentiments of the Hindu community.
The next day, on 3 October, Hindu youths observed road jam. Posters appeared in the area calling for war to protect cow. Here is one:
English translation of the poster:
Cow slaughters, Nation Divided
Will not tolerate any more: Announcement of direct war against the every day killing of Cows [our mother] and to raise voice against the constant threat to religion of Hindus, truthful Hindus come forward.
Swearing ceremony for Hindu Revolutionary Army.
This invitation is only for those sons of Cow who are ready to completely submit themselves to save the honour of their Mother [cow].
There are rumours that youths from 50 villages are being mobilised to attack Muslims of the area soon. Late night on 3 October, while parading areas it was found that Hindu youth were themselves trying to release a few cows in the area to be later show as proof of crime. Luckily the police took custody of the animals and arrested a few youth.
http://www.milligazette.com/news/11075- ... orth-delhi
The situation in Bawana area of North-West Delhi remains sensitive after some anti-social elements are continously trying to instigate Hindu-Muslim violence.
A few days back on 2 October, some 200 Hindu youths riding motorcycles and cars paraded the area with police protection in the name of preventing cow slaughter. Muslims will be observing Eid-ul-Adha on 6 October, Monday, but no one in Delhi sacrifices cows, respecting the sentiments of the Hindu community.
The next day, on 3 October, Hindu youths observed road jam. Posters appeared in the area calling for war to protect cow. Here is one:
English translation of the poster:
Cow slaughters, Nation Divided
Will not tolerate any more: Announcement of direct war against the every day killing of Cows [our mother] and to raise voice against the constant threat to religion of Hindus, truthful Hindus come forward.
Swearing ceremony for Hindu Revolutionary Army.
This invitation is only for those sons of Cow who are ready to completely submit themselves to save the honour of their Mother [cow].
There are rumours that youths from 50 villages are being mobilised to attack Muslims of the area soon. Late night on 3 October, while parading areas it was found that Hindu youth were themselves trying to release a few cows in the area to be later show as proof of crime. Luckily the police took custody of the animals and arrested a few youth.
http://www.milligazette.com/news/11075- ... orth-delhi
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Despite a Petition Pending in the High Court Subedar Ishrat Ali’s Family Forced to Evacuate Military Quarter
Military Police Takes out Household Possessions and loads on a vehicle. Shahnaz roams around with her possessions until late night
Military Police today ejected forcefully the family of Subedar Maulvi Ishrat Ali of Rajputana Rifle in his absence from their quarter in Delhi cantonment.
Subedar Ishrat Ali had been issued a notice for disobedience for refusing to chant ‘Jai Shri Ram’ and ‘Jai Mata di’ instead of ‘Jai Hind’ and had filed a petition in the High Court against the orders to evacuate immediately his quarter.
Military Police did not allow the police to enter the house that had been called by dialling 100. Maulvi Subedar Ishrat Ali’s wife Shehnaz Bano told Rashtriya Sahara, ‘Today in the afternoon at about 12.30 some 35-40 personnel of military police, including women police officers, entered the house. They pushed and forced me and my daughters out. Then they started throwing out the household possessions much of which has been damaged.’
According to Shahnaz Bano when she called the police by dialling 100, military police did not let the Delhi police in. ‘After this military police called a tempo and loaded our possessions on it saying, “Go wherever you want to go.”
‘My husband is in Bikaner and son is not home. Where will I go with my possessions? Give me at least one week but they did not budge and got us ejected from the centre.’ I said.
‘No one in the 3 Raj Rif Centre helped us. Hungry and thirsty for hours we stood there but no one even offered us a glass of water.’
She added, ‘With no option available to us, after a long wait we came to Sagar Pur where a friend of my son lives. My possessions are still on the tempo and son has gone in search of a house to rent.’
Shahnaz Bano further said, ‘We are being treated like this because my husband refused to obey his officers and chant ‘Jai Mata di’ and ‘Jai Shri Ram’ instead of ‘Jai Hind’.
In the meanwhile Kapil Deo, retired from Raj Rif, phoned Rashtriya Sahara and said, ‘I regard Subedar Ishrat Ali as my teacher. This behaviour of army officers with him is absolutely wrong. No one can be forced to act against his religion like this.’
Citing the example of Vice President Mohammad Hamid Ansari Kapil said, ‘He had also refused to worship in a temple which is his right. Similarly Maulvi Subedar Ishrat Ali cannot be forced to chant ‘Jai Mata di’. The slogan of ‘Jai Hind’ was coined by Subhash Chandra Bose and to oppose this slogan is akin to insulting Netaji.’
Subedar Ishrat Ali, working as a Maulvi with Rajputana Rifle, was transferred on 16th November 2013 to Rajputana Rifle Bikaner. His wife Shahnaz Bano is a heart patient and is being treatment at Base Hospital Delhi cantonment. In Bikaner there is a military hospital but it does not have cardiology department. On this basis Ishrat Ali had applied to stop his transfer but his application was rejected. Later, on 24 January 2014, he joined Bikaner Rajputana Rifle immediately after which he was ordered to vacate his military quarter P-13/8, Delhi Cantonment.
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Military Police Takes out Household Possessions and loads on a vehicle. Shahnaz roams around with her possessions until late night
Military Police today ejected forcefully the family of Subedar Maulvi Ishrat Ali of Rajputana Rifle in his absence from their quarter in Delhi cantonment.
Subedar Ishrat Ali had been issued a notice for disobedience for refusing to chant ‘Jai Shri Ram’ and ‘Jai Mata di’ instead of ‘Jai Hind’ and had filed a petition in the High Court against the orders to evacuate immediately his quarter.
Military Police did not allow the police to enter the house that had been called by dialling 100. Maulvi Subedar Ishrat Ali’s wife Shehnaz Bano told Rashtriya Sahara, ‘Today in the afternoon at about 12.30 some 35-40 personnel of military police, including women police officers, entered the house. They pushed and forced me and my daughters out. Then they started throwing out the household possessions much of which has been damaged.’
According to Shahnaz Bano when she called the police by dialling 100, military police did not let the Delhi police in. ‘After this military police called a tempo and loaded our possessions on it saying, “Go wherever you want to go.”
‘My husband is in Bikaner and son is not home. Where will I go with my possessions? Give me at least one week but they did not budge and got us ejected from the centre.’ I said.
‘No one in the 3 Raj Rif Centre helped us. Hungry and thirsty for hours we stood there but no one even offered us a glass of water.’
She added, ‘With no option available to us, after a long wait we came to Sagar Pur where a friend of my son lives. My possessions are still on the tempo and son has gone in search of a house to rent.’
Shahnaz Bano further said, ‘We are being treated like this because my husband refused to obey his officers and chant ‘Jai Mata di’ and ‘Jai Shri Ram’ instead of ‘Jai Hind’.
In the meanwhile Kapil Deo, retired from Raj Rif, phoned Rashtriya Sahara and said, ‘I regard Subedar Ishrat Ali as my teacher. This behaviour of army officers with him is absolutely wrong. No one can be forced to act against his religion like this.’
Citing the example of Vice President Mohammad Hamid Ansari Kapil said, ‘He had also refused to worship in a temple which is his right. Similarly Maulvi Subedar Ishrat Ali cannot be forced to chant ‘Jai Mata di’. The slogan of ‘Jai Hind’ was coined by Subhash Chandra Bose and to oppose this slogan is akin to insulting Netaji.’
Subedar Ishrat Ali, working as a Maulvi with Rajputana Rifle, was transferred on 16th November 2013 to Rajputana Rifle Bikaner. His wife Shahnaz Bano is a heart patient and is being treatment at Base Hospital Delhi cantonment. In Bikaner there is a military hospital but it does not have cardiology department. On this basis Ishrat Ali had applied to stop his transfer but his application was rejected. Later, on 24 January 2014, he joined Bikaner Rajputana Rifle immediately after which he was ordered to vacate his military quarter P-13/8, Delhi Cantonment.
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An air thick with innuendo and contempt produces a new stigma: meat-eating
The efforts of individuals from both communities to keep the peace were finally futile. This Id was a nightmare for many in Gujarat. Trucks carrying goats and buffaloes were stopped at many places by the police, often accompanied by Bajrang Dal activists. This happened particularly in Dahod and Panchmahal districts, where there is an economic link between
tribals and Muslims, both consumers of meat. Often people were falsely harassed for ‘carrying cows for slaughter’. Yusuf says, “I don’t remember an Id when so many reports of harassment came in. Now even eating bakra (goat) meat during Id can land someone in trouble. Even during Modi’s rule in Gujarat, in the post-riot years, it was not like this.” Achyut Yagnik,
author of *The Making of Modern Gujarat*, comments: “Ironically, the VHP and Bajrang Dal, once sidelined within Gujarat by Modi, are asserting themselves now.” He says it is an old pattern in the state, stopping and harassing people as they drive livestock from one place to another. In Gujarat, besides the Brahmins there are two powerful communities who are strict vegetarians: Patels and Jains. So the attempt to create a taboo around consuming meat is more successful. Ahmedabad-based activist Gagan Sethi says the idea is to hit communities involved in livestock sale economically. “At the minimum, the idea is harassment, at the maximum, it is impoverishment.”
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The efforts of individuals from both communities to keep the peace were finally futile. This Id was a nightmare for many in Gujarat. Trucks carrying goats and buffaloes were stopped at many places by the police, often accompanied by Bajrang Dal activists. This happened particularly in Dahod and Panchmahal districts, where there is an economic link between
tribals and Muslims, both consumers of meat. Often people were falsely harassed for ‘carrying cows for slaughter’. Yusuf says, “I don’t remember an Id when so many reports of harassment came in. Now even eating bakra (goat) meat during Id can land someone in trouble. Even during Modi’s rule in Gujarat, in the post-riot years, it was not like this.” Achyut Yagnik,
author of *The Making of Modern Gujarat*, comments: “Ironically, the VHP and Bajrang Dal, once sidelined within Gujarat by Modi, are asserting themselves now.” He says it is an old pattern in the state, stopping and harassing people as they drive livestock from one place to another. In Gujarat, besides the Brahmins there are two powerful communities who are strict vegetarians: Patels and Jains. So the attempt to create a taboo around consuming meat is more successful. Ahmedabad-based activist Gagan Sethi says the idea is to hit communities involved in livestock sale economically. “At the minimum, the idea is harassment, at the maximum, it is impoverishment.”
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Now with ashara in Surat, can I expect daal Bhaat and gujerati thaali in Moharrum jaman?
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May be Daal Chawaal Palidu
May be Daal Chawaal Palidu
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Alongwith Undhyu and Srikhand puri
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Girl Takes a U-turn, New Twist in UP Love Jihad Row
MEERUT: The "Love Jihad" controversy in Uttar Pradesh took a new twist with a 22-year-old local girl going back on her earlier statement that she was gangraped and forcibly converted to Islam.
The alleged victim went to the Mahila Police station in Meerut and said that she had "gone on her own free will" with the boy, a Muslim, controverting what she had said in her Sec 164 statement to a magistrate.
However, the father of the girl has disputed her claim and said she has been threatened to give a retraction statement.
The girl has now told the police that she had run away from her house as there was "threat to her life" and alleged that she was also "beaten up".
Police said that after recording her statement in front of an executive magistrate, she has been sent to Nari Niketan (women's home) for her safety and protection.
"Right now she has come to the mahila police station at 8 in the morning and she has told that she has gone on her own free will with a boy. But the case has already been charge sheeted and pending before the court.
"She told the woman police officer that she has life threat from their own parents.
The matter of alleged gangrape and conversion in August was latched up by the BJP whose leaders including Yogi Adityanath, state in charge of bye elections, exploiting the issue, especially in western parts of the state.
The alleged perpetrator Kaleem and eight others were arrested after the girl had alleged on August 3 that she had been abducted, gang-raped and forcibly converted to Islam.
Now the BJP has accused the Samajwadi Party government in the state of "directing" the police to protect the criminals and demanded a CBI probe.
Congress leader Rashid Alvi alleged BJP of "stooping low" and indulge in such kind of politics.
"The girl has changed her statement. She had given her first statement under pressure from her family. The family members had pressure of the money of BJP leaders due to which they pressurized the woman.
"This shows how low level politics BJP can do. It shows which level BJP can stoop to divide the society and to spread hatred...how much they love the country and its people. UP government should take action against those people who gave money and made this an issue," Alvi alleged.
Denying any knowledge about "love jihad", BJP National spokesperson Sambit Patra said his party's sole agenda was "love development".
http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/ ... 475922.ece
MEERUT: The "Love Jihad" controversy in Uttar Pradesh took a new twist with a 22-year-old local girl going back on her earlier statement that she was gangraped and forcibly converted to Islam.
The alleged victim went to the Mahila Police station in Meerut and said that she had "gone on her own free will" with the boy, a Muslim, controverting what she had said in her Sec 164 statement to a magistrate.
However, the father of the girl has disputed her claim and said she has been threatened to give a retraction statement.
The girl has now told the police that she had run away from her house as there was "threat to her life" and alleged that she was also "beaten up".
Police said that after recording her statement in front of an executive magistrate, she has been sent to Nari Niketan (women's home) for her safety and protection.
"Right now she has come to the mahila police station at 8 in the morning and she has told that she has gone on her own free will with a boy. But the case has already been charge sheeted and pending before the court.
"She told the woman police officer that she has life threat from their own parents.
The matter of alleged gangrape and conversion in August was latched up by the BJP whose leaders including Yogi Adityanath, state in charge of bye elections, exploiting the issue, especially in western parts of the state.
The alleged perpetrator Kaleem and eight others were arrested after the girl had alleged on August 3 that she had been abducted, gang-raped and forcibly converted to Islam.
Now the BJP has accused the Samajwadi Party government in the state of "directing" the police to protect the criminals and demanded a CBI probe.
Congress leader Rashid Alvi alleged BJP of "stooping low" and indulge in such kind of politics.
"The girl has changed her statement. She had given her first statement under pressure from her family. The family members had pressure of the money of BJP leaders due to which they pressurized the woman.
"This shows how low level politics BJP can do. It shows which level BJP can stoop to divide the society and to spread hatred...how much they love the country and its people. UP government should take action against those people who gave money and made this an issue," Alvi alleged.
Denying any knowledge about "love jihad", BJP National spokesperson Sambit Patra said his party's sole agenda was "love development".
http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/ ... 475922.ece