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Unread post by khokawala » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:34 am

Wahhabi: An epithet applied to the reformers who challenge the doctrinal basis of Bohra faith while preaching tawheed , Quran and Sunnah.
chovis number: A slang form to denote bohras who changed to pure Islam as practiced by "Wahhabis"
qadambosi: Abde bohras including ladies Kissing the feet and hands of the daee or other senior clergies of bohra faith , reminiscent of the hindu ritual of "paay laagoo" and shashtaang namaskar

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Unread post by Dumbledore » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:52 am

Taweel no sabak: Hidden tutorials/lessons which has hidden meanings.
Zahir : Which can be seen
Batin : Hidden
Ola Musalmano : Muslim Ummah other than Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by Dumbledore » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:10 am

Darul Imarat : Regional Head office of the Amil of city/town
Iftetah : Inauguration
Safai Chitthi : Clearance letter from the Jamat for individuals/family that all dues in terms of Wajibaat Sabeel etc is clear
Markaz : Place of social and religious gatherings and prayers

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Unread post by DisillusionedDB » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:13 am

This will become one BIG dictionary :lol:

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Unread post by khokawala » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:31 pm

Mola Mola mane maaf karo: A chant made by an abide bohra petitioning the daee to forgive sins as against Allah forgiving sins.

Miyabhai: non bohra muslim

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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:51 pm

Bhatkela Logo : Also refer to non-bohra Muslim

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:38 pm

Misaq -- A charter of slavery more stringent then what the Roman kings prescribed.

Ruku Chithi -- A permit/visa to abdes who have purchased the same after paying money to a Dai and the Dai acknowledges it and instructs Allah (swt) to admit him in Jannat..... Yeh apna aadmi hai, aane do bhai !!!

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Unread post by Dumbledore » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:58 pm

Maaraz: Exhibition
Taqiyaat: its like "when in rome be roman"
Muaqib: Procession or juloos like the the horse chariot seen recently in surat
Mishqaat: the community emblem or logo
Sabeel: this is used for both sabeel e imaam husaain where water or milk or sherbat is served during moharram
Sabeel: the account of each bohra family and their details with administrative offices of kothar in every town city
ITS: Idaara tareef al shakshi that is identity card department like pa n or adhaar card in india or identity cards in the US

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Unread post by khokawala » Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:25 am

Sabeel: Money (chanda) collected from abde bohras(usually after much bargain) by clergy like how hindus collect chanda for their various festivals like ganpati, diwali etc

Salam: An envelope filled with crisp currency notes which has become almost mandatory to give to the local amils\daee and other clergy at various functions, This is not a gift but many a times explicitly demanded by the clergy like how bribes are demanded.

House tax: Money collected if an abde buys a new house or renovates an existing one.

Wajebat: Money collected by the Daee from every single Abde bohra to meet the personal expenses of the daee and his family (Note: The daee's only source of income is money collected in various forms from the abde bohra, hence the daee is not required to earn his own money like how Ali a.s did)

Minnat: It is same as the hindu ritual of "Mannat" wherein an abde bohra dedicates some object , money to an Idol grave of a bohra 'saint' for fulfillment of a wish , if the wish is fulfilled then that object is donated.

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Unread post by khokawala » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:24 am

bhoot: The bohra clergies believe in the hindu concept of bhoot and pret atma , i.e Atma\soul of people wander around.(Note:Islam does not believe in this concept of bhoot but Jinns which are another type of creations)
bad hawa: evil spirits\demons adapted from Hindu nomenclature
faal kholvi: Sorcery (sihr) practice using random pages of Quran to answer questions, usually practiced by Amils of abde bohras and at times by the Daee himself.(Note: Sorcery of all forms is prohibited in Islam)

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Unread post by khokawala » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:43 am

I request the admin now to pin the thread after sorting it

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Unread post by fayyaaz » Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:30 pm

DisillusionedDB wrote:
Dumbledore wrote:Hadiyat: The title of NKD MKD NDI etc granted to abdes who are rich in wealth not deen
Hadiyat is for the 'shaikh' title if I am not mistaken. Mafsuhiyat (not sure about spelling) is for 'mulla' title. And generally NKD MKD is referred to as 'laqab'.
NDI title - I am hearing for the first time.
Could someone who knows tell me what NKD MKD stand for and what do they mean ?
There is an android application called Qamoos created by Aliasgar Dahodwala. It is a dictionary of Lisan-e-Dawat. Look it up in Play Store.

The following are from Qamoos:

Mafsuhiyat - مفسوحية - Rank in Dawat, presumably Mulla

Hadiyat - حدية - Rank of Sheikh

NKD (Nashit fi Khidmat id-Dawat) - ناشط في خدمة الدعوة - Active in the Service of Dawat. ناشط alone is listed.

MKD and NDI are not listed in Qamoos.

This compilation will serve as a Skeptic's Dictionary of Lisan-e-Dawat. But Qamoos is the Real Mccoy.
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Unread post by alam » Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:35 pm

khokawala wrote:I request the admin now to pin the thread after sorting it
Bhai khokawala, since you starts this thread, would it be fair to ask Admin to sort it? Once sorted, you can request him to pin it , or stickie it, or better still, you can have have someone develop an app like Qamoos.
Just my 2 cents.

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Unread post by fayyaaz » Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:55 pm

alam,

Sorry I did not notice that you had already mentioned Qamoos on the 1st page of this thread.

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Unread post by khokawala » Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:47 pm

choghadiya: A superstitious practice derived directly from the hindu horoscope and kundali astrological system wherein specifc times are understood to be more beneficial to do works.

Mandvo: A red cloth tied on the roof during marriage of an abde bohra couple, this red cloth ritual was adopted from the similar hindu custom in India.

Phook nu pani: A daee or clergy blows into the water which is marketed among the abde bohras as "shifa nu pani" meaning "healing water". It is reported that some abde bohras were denied medical treatment and relied on this water for cure and lost their life.

deedar: The hindu custom of "Darshan" of a deity widely adopted among the abde bohras who assign similar status to their daee and yearn for his deedar(widely known as "mola na deedar").

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Unread post by khokawala » Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:07 am

Qardan: Loan given to abdes who are regular in payment of Jamat dues

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Unread post by khokawala » Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:38 am

Talakki: Taking the hands of Daee and escorting him to show the rutba of daee
Badri Mahal: Kothar office located near CST, Mumbai
Saifee Mahal: Palace of the dawoodi bohra Daee , which was accquired from Adamjee peerbhoy using deception and forgery, located near Walkeshwar

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Unread post by khokawala » Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:24 am

Mola Mola: Chanting by abdes.