Bohra SMS Duniya

[ghulam muhammed]

Here are signs indicating Downfall of Bohra community. Also please scroll down and read Syedna Mufaddal says "Mai kharab chhu"

When importance of money surpasses importance of religion.

When importance of dress and looks surpasses care of the poor.

When futility surpasses reality.

When expense surpasses income.

When importance of past surpasses need of the hour.

When importance of etiquettes and chaaplusi surpasses actual work.

When number of Chamchas surpasses doers.

When number of merchants surpasses customers.

When number of heirs surpasses wealth (Syedna's has countless descendants each is a multi millionaire).

When number of Gurus surpasses followers (Shehzadas, Bhaisaabs, Mullas, Sheikhs are countless).

When number of Crooks surpasses honest people.

"Bohra Leader Says 'Mai Kharab Chu'

SMS (Short for Syedna Muffy Saifuddin) confessed he is the bad guy on Oct 29 (6th Moharram). He was found saying 'Mai Kharab Chu' in front of his fans (short for fanatics).

The Bohra head uttered the word on 6th day of chest beating ceremony organized in Surat. He said “Mai Kharab Chu” addressing his rival group head SKQ accusing and cursing him for not attending the funeral of late Syedna. Some have criticized media for taking the quote out of the context but many said his deed justifies the news anyways.

SMS was also found laughing for no apparent reason in previous Moharram Waez. As expected, the crowd also began giggling with him shouting Moula Moula along with. Such mood swings raises suspicion that either the new head of Dawoodi Bohra (well majority of them consider him to be) is either on antidepressants, or worse on Drugs! He has been known to furiously shake his body and seat in feat of anger shouting 'Kai ordinary Manas Che'.

Bohras observe nine days of Moharram in remembrance of Imam Hussain where the Bohra head tells them Imam Hussain cannot save them without his (current Syedna) permission. Surprisingly most Bohras believe it just like they believe all other things their head says without using their own head.

He also taught a new controversial method of doing Ziyarat to his followers which involved waving your hand towards the graves and kissing it back. He said 'Ghana em Bhi Kare Che, Ghanu Achhu Che.Saglani Ziyarat Ek Sathe Thai Jae'.

Many Bohras who are already confused whom to choose their leader are now more reluctant to side with Muffy as he is Showing signs of insanity. A weak leadership and inability to talk properly has made the rival leader K Qutbuddin easy target against SMS. Many believe one must have some level of insanity to be a Dawoodi Bohra or you’ll go fully insane with the amount of nonsense one has to hear living in the community."

[Akhtiar Wahid]

Allah swt has given him mohallat (grace period) to accept his mistake if he does not time is not far when people lose faith just like what happened during the period of syedna abdul qadir najmuddin (RA) in all this mess 1 thing is clear cut dais are not at all KAL MASOOM

[think]

the first sign of masoom is sajda to almighty from him,and not making other people do sajda to him.

[WiththenameofAllah]

Amazing Article! a must read.

The Curse of disobeying Allah: Imam Hussain and Yazid.

On the 10th of Muharram 61 AH the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was mercilessly and brutally murdered by the orders of the ruler Yazid, son of the ruler Amir Muawiya. The Muslims were shocked at this cruel and barbaric killing of the most nearest relative of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him).

While Yazid had everything going for him, Imam Hussain (May Allah be pleased with him) had everything going against him. Notice, Yazid was a loser in the long run, Imam Hussain (may Allah be pleased with him) was the winner.

Yazid had everything going for him, he grew up in a wealthy household, raised by Allah fearing parents and he was given a good upbringing yet he failed miserably. Why? Let's look at the most prominent reasons why Yazid was doomed!

Yazid did not pray or worship Allah. The only time we read of Yazid praying is when he was in trouble. Sounds familiar? If you scrutinise your own biggest failures, you’ll find that you’ve missed your daily prayers. Just as you can’t run a car on an empty tank, work on an empty stomach, or pay bills with an empty bank account. Similarly you can’t live a pious life without the five daily prayers. We see these kind of failures applies to anyone who lives this way and it is common in everyone of us who fails to pray consistently.

Yazid, refused to live by Allah's Word. When confronted by his father, Amir Muawiya over un-Islamic practices, Yazid ignored him. This is what happens when you allow your whims and emotions to rule your life rather than the glorious Qur'an, you’re heading for trouble. One of the best definitions of ‘disobedience’ is ‘incomplete obedience.’ You can’t pick which parts of the Qur’an you will live by and turn your back to others. There are too many muslims who are committing this kind of disobedience everyday! On the one hand they may pray once or twice, yet on the other hand they will drink, or gamble, they will beat and divorce their wives over arrogance, they will not do justice to their children when it comes to inheritance and the rights of the heirs..and so on.

Yazid was motivated by greed. Yazid had an overwhelming desire to remain the King, the absolute monarch of this vast empire built by great leaders like Ali ( May Allah be pleased with them all). He wanted to be the leader at any cost, but sadly, his greed for wealth, fame and worldly pleasures stunted his ability to be a decent ruler. When he became the King, his first task was to win the allegiance of the major religious and tribal leaders, he ordered the governor of Madina to seek the allegiance of Imam Hussain, (May Allah be pleased with him), yet the Imam refused to do so, as he felt it would be inappropriate for him to accept the authority of someone who was not a committed Muslim.

In due course, Imam Hussain left Madina for the holy city of Makkah and consulted senior companions with regards to the issue of allegiance to Yazid, many supported his stance. By now the people of Iraq who had been staunch supporters of his father Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) became aware of the Imam’s opposition to Yazid, so they sent a delegation to him requesting that he move to Iraq where they will accept his leadership, however most loyal companions advised him not to migrate to Kufa in Iraq.

Imām Hussain eventually did move to Kufa in Iraq. However, he was betrayed by the people of Kufa, who even after sending him hundreds of letters of invitation and several delegations of top community leaders they still betrayed him. However Imam Hussain remained steadfast and determined despite the difficulties.

Indeed he was exposed to temptation of giving up and accepting Yazids offer, in face of the fact that he was lonely, far from home, and subjected to every impulse a man of a obedient Family can have. Ziyad, Yazid’s commander tried repeatedly to seduce him, and swear oath of allegiance to Yazid, but he said no. He remained strong.

If we evaluate this situation, in his case, there’s a good chance that he might have got away with it.

But his reason for saying no was, “…isn’t the greatest Jihad to say the truth in the face of a tyrant?”

A lesson to all of us, we must remain strong in our beliefs and hold on tight to our rope of Islam.. No matter what failures or calamities or trials we face, we should never give up hope, place our trust in Allah and keep ourselves busy with praying and worshipping and having remembrance of Allah.. Never give up!

[mukhtaarhusain]

These KOTHAR GANG is very powerful n Master minded.
They know at what time...which CARD to OPEN n which
to THROW..They r Bluffing d Bohras n at the same time
They r Bluffing ALMIGHTY ALLAH...But they r unaware of
d Fact that How big n powerful they think of themself, but
there is nothing bigger n powerful than ALLAH..He is
Watching every thing..n d day the pot of Sins of the
KOTHARIS is full...These kotharis wont get place to Hide..
They have ruined everything of our society..The Brain n
Beauty of d pple..our earning sources...if u dont believe
in them then our own pple will hate us...

[asad]

Amazing Article! a must read.

The Curse of disobeying Allah: Imam Hussain and Yazid.

On the 10th of Muharram 61 AH the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was mercilessly and brutally murdered by the orders of the ruler Yazid, son of the ruler Amir Muawiya. The Muslims were shocked at this cruel and barbaric killing of the most nearest relative of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him).

While Yazid had everything going for him, Imam Hussain (May Allah be pleased with him) had everything going against him. Notice, Yazid was a loser in the long run, Imam Hussain (may Allah be pleased with him) was the winner.

Yazid had everything going for him, he grew up in a wealthy household, raised by Allah fearing parents and he was given a good upbringing yet he failed miserably. Why? Let's look at the most prominent reasons why Yazid was doomed!

Yazid did not pray or worship Allah. The only time we read of Yazid praying is when he was in trouble. Sounds familiar? If you scrutinise your own biggest failures, you’ll find that you’ve missed your daily prayers. Just as you can’t run a car on an empty tank, work on an empty stomach, or pay bills with an empty bank account. Similarly you can’t live a pious life without the five daily prayers. We see these kind of failures applies to anyone who lives this way and it is common in everyone of us who fails to pray consistently.

Yazid, refused to live by Allah's Word. When confronted by his father, Amir Muawiya over un-Islamic practices, Yazid ignored him. This is what happens when you allow your whims and emotions to rule your life rather than the glorious Qur'an, you’re heading for trouble. One of the best definitions of ‘disobedience’ is ‘incomplete obedience.’ You can’t pick which parts of the Qur’an you will live by and turn your back to others. There are too many muslims who are committing this kind of disobedience everyday! On the one hand they may pray once or twice, yet on the other hand they will drink, or gamble, they will beat and divorce their wives over arrogance, they will not do justice to their children when it comes to inheritance and the rights of the heirs..and so on.

Yazid was motivated by greed. Yazid had an overwhelming desire to remain the King, the absolute monarch of this vast empire built by great leaders like Ali ( May Allah be pleased with them all). He wanted to be the leader at any cost, but sadly, his greed for wealth, fame and worldly pleasures stunted his ability to be a decent ruler. When he became the King, his first task was to win the allegiance of the major religious and tribal leaders, he ordered the governor of Madina to seek the allegiance of Imam Hussain, (May Allah be pleased with him), yet the Imam refused to do so, as he felt it would be inappropriate for him to accept the authority of someone who was not a committed Muslim.

In due course, Imam Hussain left Madina for the holy city of Makkah and consulted senior companions with regards to the issue of allegiance to Yazid, many supported his stance. By now the people of Iraq who had been staunch supporters of his father Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) became aware of the Imam’s opposition to Yazid, so they sent a delegation to him requesting that he move to Iraq where they will accept his leadership, however most loyal companions advised him not to migrate to Kufa in Iraq.

Imām Hussain eventually did move to Kufa in Iraq. However, he was betrayed by the people of Kufa, who even after sending him hundreds of letters of invitation and several delegations of top community leaders they still betrayed him. However Imam Hussain remained steadfast and determined despite the difficulties.

Indeed he was exposed to temptation of giving up and accepting Yazids offer, in face of the fact that he was lonely, far from home, and subjected to every impulse a man of a obedient Family can have. Ziyad, Yazid’s commander tried repeatedly to seduce him, and swear oath of allegiance to Yazid, but he said no. He remained strong.

If we evaluate this situation, in his case, there’s a good chance that he might have got away with it.

But his reason for saying no was, “…isn’t the greatest Jihad to say the truth in the face of a tyrant?”

A lesson to all of us, we must remain strong in our beliefs and hold on tight to our rope of Islam.. No matter what failures or calamities or trials we face, we should never give up hope, place our trust in Allah and keep ourselves busy with praying and worshipping and having remembrance of Allah.. Never give up!

Amazing article, specially this line

“…isn’t the greatest Jihad to say the truth in the face of a tyrant?”

[qutub_mamajiwala]

cannot agree with it any more.
but just one question.
i know u have copied this article.
even then i cant keep myself from asking withthenameofallah one question.
the article is very well written and whoever in his right frame of mind will agree to it.
agree to the message as a whole it sends.
the broader picture is very gud and conveys the message of aashura.
but my apology withthenameofallah if u think i am too much microdissecting.
do u agree with the statement of calling muawayia as amir or he was a gud muslim?

[WiththenameofAllah]

cannot agree with it any more.
but just one question.
i know u have copied this article.
even then i cant keep myself from asking withthenameofallah one question.
the article is very well written and whoever in his right frame of mind will agree to it.
agree to the message as a whole it sends.
the broader picture is very gud and conveys the message of aashura.
but my apology withthenameofallah if u think i am too much microdissecting.
do u agree with the statement of calling muawayia as amir or he was a gud muslim?

Yes, i did and it is from a sunni source and i deleted names of the khalifas do not apologize you have every right to question. To be honest i do not know about character of mawia as it is controversial and i am no one to decide that, main message was the focus.
Jazak Allah khair.
And Allah knows the best.

[Biradar]

For the ignorant here, Muawiyah fought against Maulana Ali at the Battle of Siffin. Hence, by definition, he was against haqq. Incidentally, the arbitration to end the Battle of Siffin split the community of early Muslims into two halves, which will never be reconciled again.

[salaar]

I consider Muawiya to be the major convict for all the tyranny that started from the period of usman and ended at karbala, Yazeed was a fool who openly did all the zulm on the family of RasoolAllah im a short period of his rule that was 3 years and 7 months but this muawiya was a treacherous man who remained in the fold of islam and tried to avenge his forefathers. history was written in a way that all the blame was laid upon yazeed but actually it was this laeen who did all the fitnat.
son of the worst enemy of islam that is Abu Sufiyan and Hindah bint utbah who was a renowned prostitute of his time, muawiya divided the muslim ummah and battle of siffin took place which resulted in the martyrdom of all the dear and loving ashaabs of maula Ali, Maula Alis army had a full contingent of Huffaz they were all hafiz e quran and in the end of the battle most were martyred. Maula Ali realized and understood that the fitnat sown by muawiya by attracting ordinary muslimeen towards worldly wealth liquor and womenising, he was bent upon to rub the true face of islam from the minds of muslimeen, what was the grudge, the real cause of enemity was that this family of abu sufiyan had although accepted islam by the fear of sword but from within their hearts were crying to take revenge of their dead father and brothers who were killed in the battle of badar and auhad at the hands of RasoolAllah and as later openly claimed by yazeed after karbala that today we have taken the revenge of our relatives who died in badar and auhad. During the battle of siffin Maula Ali offered him a man to man duel to save the lives of muslimeen who were standing on both the sides but he refused to fight and as a result muslimeen on both sides were butchered. after the shahadat of Maula Ali this snake kept on trying his evil tricks to hurt the family of RasoolAllah and send poison to kill imam Hasan through his wife Jaadah to whom imam Hasan had decided to divorce, if laeen yazeed is responsible for shahadat e imam Hussain then Muawiya is responsible for the shahadat of Imam Hasan. when this laeen died after ruling as the worldly caliph of banu ummayah for almost 19 years the frowns on his forehead after death remained permanent and KAFIR was clearly written on it. many so called scholars try to give a soft image of this laeen but he was the worst enemy of the family of Mohammad s.a.w.w.

[ghulam muhammed]

Following is very interesting and myth busting picture. Here two brothers, Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin and Mazun Khozema Qutbuddin, are bowing each other promising to their Father Syedna Taher Saifuddin that they will fulfill his wasiyat. Mukasir Husain Bhaisaheb Husamuddin witnesses the event. However, “Abhi bola Abhi Fok” Mufaddal and his side is cursing Khozema side

Mukasir Husamuddin has no problem grabbing Mazun position. These greedy folks have no guts sticking to principles. When they can break Misaq and promises openly, what right do they have saying to Bohras “Tamaro Misaq pachho lo”? Misaq is just a game.

[New]

Gulambhai, always high respect for you, why it took a while for this picture to surface?
Assume they are at the gravesite of STS. And how do we know what are they saying or promising? Do we also have a proof for wasiyat? May the holy trinity is doing dua for his followers.

Lot of Abdes are not going to be moved as their minds are made up. The social structure is more important than the truth.

[ghulam muhammed]

Bro New,

I duly accept your contentions but kindly note that this is a thread wherein SMS and watsup messages circulated among Bohras are posted. One has to make his/her own judgement whether to confirm the message or deny it.

[New]

Thanks Gulambhai for the clarification. I thought you always have an insight and an insider knowledge. That is why I posed the question.
Yes, I agree with you that EVERYTHING is an article of faith, be that be Dais, Imams, Angels and Gods.

[haqniwaat]

New mazoon of muffy who was mukasir of Burhanuddin Mola RA calls Syedna Qutbuddin a liar! Well if mazoon of Burhanuddin Mola can be a liar and lie about nass, what's to stop husain bs the new mazoon of muffy from lying? How much did muffy pay you, Mr. Husamuddin?! Shame on you! Being Burhanuddin Mola's mukasir, the first thing you should have done when you heard about London nass is confer with Burhanuddin Mola's mazoon, not run to muffy and Dr. Moiz the abuser!

[summer123]

What's app msg
khergon ni burhani gard... surat se return ma accident thayo

[dawedaar]

How is Muaviyah (LA) who sent poison to Imam Hasan (AS) a god fearing parent... ???

Amazing Article! a must read.


Yazid had everything going for him, he grew up in a wealthy household, raised by Allah fearing parents and he was given a good upbringing yet he failed miserably. Why? Let's look at the most prominent reasons why Yazid was doomed!

[ghulam muhammed]

Forwarded as Received :

Court case in the court of Justice Gautam Patel.

A. Shehzada Qutbuddin has proved Nass was confirmed on him in private as permitted under Mustaali sect of Shia Muslims. As understood by Justice Patel from documents presented some witnesses did exist and these were well educated in the Mustaali theology and they would have some scriptures to their name from which their handwriting could be matched and this would be viable evidence for the court to accept.

B. Shehzada Mufaddal Saifuddin has to prove that Nass was confirmed on him on 3 separate occasions and if nass was executed on Shehzada Qutbuddin there is refutable proof when the Nass was withdrawn as per tenats of the Mustaali sect of Shia Islam.

C. The court would need is refutable proof that once Nass is executed the said Nass can be withdrawn or cannot be as per Mustali sect and tenats recognised by the faith.

D. On an earlier hearing it was observed that the documents presented were in different scripts of Islam and phonetics are also different. Who will translate them, are there any translators duly approved by the High court or experts from the bar who could be reliable translators and if not available the parties will provide the translations by experts and the most important thing for this court to know whose translation is valid and the experts will have to be cross examined and how cross examination will be conducted.

E. Most important question I have been asking is that is the High court within its jurisdiction to try this case .

From a reliable source.

[New]

May be we should start a new thread titled "Husamuddin". What Husam means? My thoughts are that he does not need money as he is ready to go soon. He has been promised a space in Raudat to Tahera. I know one of his sons as a Toronto Amil and he was money hungry and he would not perform anything on Sundays. I wonder if SHH "Syedi Husain Bhaisaheb Husamuddin is keeping his silence as silence is golden and what SHH means. Or his promotion and wazayefo are for the benefit of his progeny once again for power and wealth.

[haqniwaat]

Bhai ghulaam mohd, why can't the court make this document available instead of us having to believe that you obtained it from a reliable source?
Also, husain husamuddin has already said that Burhanuddin Mola RA mazoon is lying.

[adna_mumin]

Forwarded as Received :

Court case in the court of Justice Gautam Patel.

A. Shehzada Qutbuddin has proved Nass was confirmed on him in private as permitted under Mustaali sect of Shia Muslims. As understood by Justice Patel from documents presented some witnesses did exist and these were well educated in the Mustaali theology and they would have some scriptures to their name from which their handwriting could be matched and this would be viable evidence for the court to accept.

B. Shehzada Mufaddal Saifuddin has to prove that Nass was confirmed on him on 3 separate occasions and if nass was executed on Shehzada Qutbuddin there is refutable proof when the Nass was withdrawn as per tenats of the Mustaali sect of Shia Islam.

C. The court would need is refutable proof that once Nass is executed the said Nass can be withdrawn or cannot be as per Mustali sect and tenats recognised by the faith.
....
From a reliable source.

One is not surprised at the "innocent/mal-intended" but ignorant posts and messages that are common in social media. But for your judgement that you think it worthy enough to post!

I mean what on earth is it saying "refutable proof" and yada yada?
Sorry couldn't resist laughing at this one.

[haqniwaat]

Announcement

Shehzada Taher Bhaisaheb will preside over the Urus and Darees majlis of Syedna Hatim RA on 16th raat of Moharram from Bakersfield, California. You can participate using the YouTube link below.

Majlis starts at 6:00pm Pacific Standard Time on Friday 7th November 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGevifh84tw

Please forward the above link as needed.

[ghulam muhammed]

Forwarded as received.

Accident near Visarwadi, Dist Nandurbar.

Apnawala Mumineen Surat nikah maate jai rahya hata........... 3 Bairo guzri gaya chhe and baaki ghayal chhe.

[haqniwaat]

Very sad indeed. Inna lillahe wa inna ilaihe raaje'uoon. I hope for their sake that muffy can take them to jannat. If not, they will go through the cycle again.

[thesource]

Received:
Lahnat on this Maloon servant Aamil. May he be eaten by dogs and so be his boss.

[SBM]

^
Does any one knows his name and what Mohalla is he from? Can some one put that on Whatsup with the name of the Aamil and Mohalla too

[adna_mumin]

Three months and not a word on assault
http://mumineennijamaat.wordpress.com/2 ... estions-6/

[haqniwaat]

WhatsApp Message Received:

Sakina bs daughter of Shahzada Taha bs bin Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin Aqa saying that Taizoon has been trying to convince her against Mufaddal Mola and telling her not to go to Mola. Taizoon's wife has been instructed by Busaheba Johratus Sharaf Aisaheba to put pressure on him or he will pay dearly and lose his son.
Khuda ni lanat Taizoon par!!!!!

[salaar]

This reminds me of the mahal of Akbar Badshah where all kind of conspiracies were knitted by family members against each other for the worldly throne power and wealth, where has the roohaniyat evaporated,...... Alas,

[ghulam muhammed]

This reminds me of the mahal of Akbar Badshah where all kind of conspiracies were knitted by family members against each other for the worldly throne power and wealth, where has the roohaniyat evaporated,...... Alas,

Was there any Roohaniyat anywhere to be seen since the past 100 odd years ? If you view things with an unbiased mindset then you will realise that it was ALWAYS about power and wealth, religion was just a tool to achieve the goal.