Unity in the Community

The one and only free public forum for Bohras. The focus of this forum is the reform movement, the Dawoodi Bohra faith and, of course, the corrupt priesthood. But the discussion is in no way restricted to the Bohras alone.
aZgar_killer
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Re: Unity in the Community

#31

Unread post by aZgar_killer » Sat Aug 20, 2005 2:11 pm

NOTICE: This TOPIC is not meant for the likes of BURHAN & TAHIR .
By the Way BURHAN i need the clarification not from you but from your INSAAP DADA.

burhan
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Re: Unity in the Community

#32

Unread post by burhan » Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:28 pm

he he...kab tak sacchai se muh chura kar bhagte rahoge.... :D Bohris never have any answers to reformist questions. Babu and You will never be able to overcome ur insecurities and inferiority complex like this. btw, forget about the topic, this entire site is not meant for illiterate people like you. You are better suited for sites like maloomat.com.

NOTICE: since this topic is taken over by "phook pani" idiots, Mr. Insaaf should not care to reply them. They dont make sense anyway.

burhan
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Re: Unity in the Community

#33

Unread post by burhan » Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:30 pm

and by the way aZgar killer, I need clarification from you which I am sure u dont have any answer for.

babu
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Re: Unity in the Community

#34

Unread post by babu » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:00 pm

Well, I dont want to go Personally or that low but you insist,
I am not from Banswara,Sagwara or Partapur. and yes as you said 'Wagadiya' are well Informed, I think U didnt Celebrate 'March 1st' this Year ?
Didn't get me ??? :D :D :D

jahannami
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Re: Unity in the Community

#35

Unread post by jahannami » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:00 pm

Alle yaal babu bhai...how long will you go on passing the burhani bull shit as facts. Just have a look:
There is no human pulling Rikshaw or even Cycle Rikshaw in Udaipur, Its not permitted by the Govt. from where did you got this news?
The fact is that except a few areas in the mega cities like mumbai and delhi, cycle rikshaws are allowed in all parts of India and are infact quiet prevelant. Its a different thing that in one of the waaz u were told that "udaipur is situated in Nariman Point, mumbai".... :D

The rest of all what u wrote doesnt even deserve a reply. This reminds me of the Aamil Ibrahim Rashid of Indore who said in his waaz in 1997 "the sun revolves round the earth and science is wrong"!!.

alle yaal kabhi waaz se bahar nikal kal duniya bhi dekh liya karo, "phook ka pani" na sahi magar bahar bhi accha pani milta hai.

A classic case of ANDHER NAGRI CHAUPAT RAJA... :D

PS: I can understand that the miserable failure of saifee hospital has frustrated u guys badly but iska matlab ye to nahi ki hamare saamne aa kar apna rona rovo!! arre bhai patients na sahi lekin kutte to piss kar rahe hai waha. kam se kam kisi ke to kaam aa raha hai... ;)

jahannami
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Re: Unity in the Community

#36

Unread post by jahannami » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:08 pm

Well, I dont want to go Personally or that low
LOL...what else have u been doing here so far

babu
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Re: Unity in the Community

#37

Unread post by babu » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:33 pm

Originally posted by babu:

Didn't get me ??? :D :D :D
this is what I expecting told you naaa ... waiting for Stones .....'Dil par jo lagtee hai na bahut buree hotee hai'

ko_ii viiraanii sii viiraanii hai
dasht ko dekh ke ghar yaad aayaa

jahannami
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Re: Unity in the Community

#38

Unread post by jahannami » Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:23 pm

yaar teri itni jaldi kyu sulagti hai... :D ...are wagadiyas are like this or what?

mumin_mukhlish
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Re: Unity in the Community

#39

Unread post by mumin_mukhlish » Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:12 am

alle yaal kabhi waaz se bahar nikal kal duniya bhi dekh liya karo
Mr. Jahannami(As name suggest ;) ) and Burhan
Bahar ki duniya dekhi tabhi to pata chala ki kitne type ke snakes hote hai duniya mein like azgar,In saap etc ;) .
btw, u didnt answer Babu's qstn abt 1st march Uper se gayee lagta hai. ;)
First decide urself as who is not able to answer,who is illiterate and accept the fact and then bark anything.

tahir
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Re: Unity in the Community

#40

Unread post by tahir » Sun Aug 21, 2005 4:14 am

Mr Insaaf,

Are these jokers a perfect sample of daawat ? Just have a look at this:
NOTICE: This TOPIC is not meant for the likes of BURHAN & TAHIR .
By the Way BURHAN i need the clarification not from you but from your INSAAP DADA
I want to ask if mulla burhanuddin also demonstrates such an attitude? Is he also shy of facing the reformists and runs away and hides himself in the four walls of badri mahal like a rat? Is he also answerless whenever faced with legitimate questions?

Also, while requesting for unity, did he acknowledge that he and his father had always been wrong? I guess the youths in Udaipur should not respond to any such calls for unity unless the mulla is prepared to repent for his sins in public. And even after apology it would not make a sense fot the Youths to return to the decaying cult since now they have tasted independence and light.

aZgar_killer
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Re: Unity in the Community

#41

Unread post by aZgar_killer » Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:08 am

As i informed earlier....This topic is not meant for DOGGY's like BURHAN & TAHIR

aZgar_killer
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Re: Unity in the Community

#42

Unread post by aZgar_killer » Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:10 am

TAHR,
Thori Thand rakh yaar...kai ko itni jaldi PANT GILI/PILI ker leta hein. ;)

Above Average Bohra
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Re: Unity in the Community

#43

Unread post by Above Average Bohra » Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:28 pm

You know, I have been watching this Kothari circus for a few weeks now and I have to say with pleasure that these Abde Morons haven't said a single word of wisdom in any of their posts.

I think it is high time the rest of us started ignoring them so that they go away and we can have better and enduring discussions.

babu
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Re: Unity in the Community

#44

Unread post by babu » Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:28 pm

This is your turn Mr. Insaaph

aZgar_killer
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Re: Unity in the Community

#45

Unread post by aZgar_killer » Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:53 am

Now its time for Above Average MORON(Bohra)to do PANT GILI....Dost tumhe BURA to lag raha hein lekin kya karein PEHLI GOLI (PANT GILI) TAHR ne chalayi thi, AAKHRI GOLI HUM chalayege. ;)

babu
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Re: Unity in the Community

#46

Unread post by babu » Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:46 pm

Ok Mr. Insaaph
Let us know , What you will do for Unity in community ?

aZgar_killer
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Re: Unity in the Community

#47

Unread post by aZgar_killer » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:15 pm

BREAKING NEWS:

Once the FLAG HOLDER OF BOHRA YOUTH in UDR. QURBAN HUSSAIN KOLWARIWALA came to MISAQ last week with his full fledged family
THANK YOU Bhairon Singh Shekhawat :D
Halka sa JATKA...Bahut JORR se LAGA !!!

mumin_mukhlish
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Re: Unity in the Community

#48

Unread post by mumin_mukhlish » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:57 pm

AB Is Breaking News pe Mr. In Naaag(Ooops Saap :o
(Oh Sorry, Abhi Tahir baki hai :p )

babu
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Re: Unity in the Community

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Unread post by babu » Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:33 pm

Mr. Insaaph
Please tell us your Steps towards Unity in Bohra Community

observer
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Re: Unity in the Community

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Unread post by observer » Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:49 pm

Adminstrators: can you please get rid of the idiots from this site.

babu
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Re: Unity in the Community

#51

Unread post by babu » Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:05 pm

Originally posted by observer:
Adminstrators: can you please get rid of the idiots from this site.
This post shows that you did nothing but misguided your followers, and used them as a tool for your own benefit.
Nice political game by Mr. Insaaph, and Great Engineer Asgher Ali

Admin
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Re: Unity in the Community

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Unread post by Admin » Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:45 pm

Babu, azgar killer, mumin mukhlis, trance and others,

We have been tolerating you all for quite a while in the interest of free speech, giving you a fair chance to put your points of view across. But all you have been doing is using abuse and bad language. May we please request you to stop this behaviour.

Please consider this as a warning. One more abusive or irrelevant post from you and you'll get yourself banned from this Forum. You'll leave us no choice. But if you can find in yourself the decency and civility to discuss issues like grown-ups, you are more than welcome here.

Hope you’ll co-operate.

Admin

mbohra
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Re: Unity in the Community

#53

Unread post by mbohra » Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:50 pm

I propose the motion that all those abusive posts by the likes of Babu, azgar killer, mumin mukhlis, trance and others, be deleted fortwith to maintain and enhance the integrity and credibility of this website.

mumin_mukhlish
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Re: Unity in the Community

#54

Unread post by mumin_mukhlish » Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:58 am

Admin, mbohra,
How do u define the abusive language used by Tahir, Jhannami, Burhan etc against our aqa moula(TUS)??
Do those posts increase ur credibility? If that is the case then u urself can very well judge as how credible u r. No need to specify anything...

mumu
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Re: Unity in the Community

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Unread post by mumu » Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:32 am

Babu, azgar killer, mumin mukhlis, trance and others,

We have been tolerating you all for quite a while in the interest of free speech, giving you a fair chance to put your points of view across. But all you have been doing is using abuse and bad language. May we please request you to stop this behaviour.

Please consider this as a warning. One more abusive or irrelevant post from you and you'll get yourself banned from this Forum. You'll leave us no choice. But if you can find in yourself the decency and civility to discuss issues like grown-ups, you are more than welcome here.

Hope you’ll co-operate.

Admin
Admin,
We would have never bothered what you all were doing on this site untill you all started abusing, using bad languages and telling wrong and fake stories about our Moula.
I feel that reformist has lost there way your main issue was against Kotharis and now you all feel proud in abusing Moula. If i am not wrong your leaders (in initial days of movement) always tried to explain that they are against system and not against Sayedna.
And the main reason behind giving us warning is because we all are raising such a points for which the so called great leaders do not have the answers. Apart from writting lenghty fake stories these leaders now do not have any point remained to prove.
I also know that my this post will be edited by admin (who will consider it abusive) since i have written about there God.
Now i would like to ask one more question to Admin,
How you can justify the languages used by Tahir, Burhan & company ?
If you see the posts from Tahir they all are full of abuses with no logics and also not releted to the topics.
If you look at the posts from Burhan, he has a point in it but he lets his point in such an abusing manner that no one (except reformist) can tolerate it.

babu
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Re: Unity in the Community

#56

Unread post by babu » Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:32 am

Originally posted by babu:
Originally posted by S. Insaf ( Diffrent posts ):
1. There a hospital behid Saifee Hospital known as Hinduja Hospital. It learnt that the staff, the machinaries and equiptments were brought from this hospital to Saifee hospital to show it to the public that Saifee hospital is already functioning.
2. After 15 days constant efforts he could manage to call back only 134 persons out of 7000 reformist in Udaipur.
3. The Udaipur Urban Cooperative Bank has opened new branches
4.Where as the members of Shabab are still holding their prayers and other functions in wadis of Hindus and Sayedna Saheb has not cared for them
5. Today you find many new faces in Udaipur pulling ricksaws or doing labour jobs.
6 . As for Bohra Youth's strength in number is concered, many youngster have taken higher education and have moved to to USA, UK and Kuwait.
To,
Insaaph Saap ,
What do you think ? Readers of this Forum are Chakrams ? yaar hosh di dawaa karo ,
Tuusse Great ho , Kuch bhi Kar Sakde ho Mogembo ki tarah,

1. Hospitals nu showroom banaa deettaa, you Said they brought the instruments on rent / Udhaar, its Difficult or impossible to digest by any one , its enough for someone to laugh on you and the Reporter who was paid by you . you should regret on it.

2.The Figure 134 is totally wrong .see this post from the fellow who is on the same Rikshaw (humsafar yaar )

Originally posted by Humsafar:
It is true that reformists in Udaipur have dwindled in numbers over the years
3. A Velly Chimple Question: Is the Urban Co-operative Bank is working under Islamic Law ?
4. The Shababs Prayers and other functions were held in Ajanta Hall,Burhani Hall and Tayebiyah School and these are not Hindus wadi/property.
5. There is no human pulling Rikshaw or even Cycle Rikshaw in Udaipur, Its not permitted by the Govt. :D from where did you got this news?
6. Many youngster are headed to abroad, correct; do they join any religious activity ?

Now a 'Suggestion' of course totally free of charge :
Plan a visit to Udaipur (Zaraa Haqeeqat se bhi DO DO Haath ho jaye, AASRA ke Airconditioned chamber se bahar nikal kar bhi dekh lo duniya kaisee hai )
:eek:
Is there anything wrong / abusive in this post ???
:eek:

S. Insaf
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Re: Unity in the Community

#57

Unread post by S. Insaf » Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:15 pm

What do you think? Readers of this Forum are (idiots) Chakrams?
No dear friend! I believe in what Hazrat Ali ibne Abitalib has said: “Do not see who is saying it but see what he is saying.” I do not see whether the post is by progressives or orthodox. I only see the truth in it.
1) When I was told by a friend in the press circle about making a show during Inauguration by hiring the staff and equipments from nearby hospital, I had no reason not to believe it because I have seen Sayedna Saheb’s men getting government licenses to purchase the equipments and machineries worth crores of rupees in the name of ‘Saifee Jubilee Technological Institute to be built on Dawood Baugh Trust land in Bombay, Asian Electronics in Thane, Bombay, Asian Dehydrates, in Nasik, Bakawolf in Pune etc. These equipments and machineries were bought but none of the above said project got realized and crores of rupees were pocketed by our holy men.
I myself or any of my reformist friends has no connection with the editor of Seerat Mr. Moinuddin Ajmeri. He had visited Saifee Hospital on 29th July 2005 on his own and reported his experience in his weekly, which I reproduced for your information.
2) I was in Udaipur for 17 days during Sayedna Saheb’s visit there and I had counted and reported the figure of total 134 persons who crossed the floor along with Gulam Husain at that time.
3) You have questioned whether Udaipur Urban Co-operative Bank is working under Islamic Law? But You dare not Sayedna Saheb whose followers pf Shabab are shareholders of this bank and have been taking active part in its election and working.
4) Ajanta Hall is a hall of Ajanta Hotel. You admit that Tayebiyah School is a school and not a community hall. And for your information now it is Burhania School.
5) I stand for correction for writing Rikshaw-puller instead of Handcart-puller.
6) You admit that many Bohra Youth youngsters have headed to abroad but your question is “do they join any religious activity?” For your information all over the world there are 40 thousand open reformists and where are they settled they have there registered Jamat. All our Jamats are registered as Dawoodi Bohras Jamat because non of Kothar’s Jamat is registered as Dawoodi Bohra Jamat as it is does not want to give any credit to Bohras. Kothar’s jamats registered as Anjuman. All the religious rites like Namaz, roza, haj, moharram majlises and Ramadan prayers are vigorously followed by reformists as per true Islamic traditions and without alterations (bid'ats)as done by the orthodox bohras, namaz for Sayedna, separate namaz from other Muslims in Kabatullah, more praises for 51st and 52nd Dais than philosophy of Shahadat in Karbala, wasting important nights in Ramadan for collections of Wajebat etc.
I keep on visiting Udaipur at least once in two months as it a Madina of reformist now.

babu
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Re: Unity in the Community

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Unread post by babu » Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:41 am

Originally posted by S. Insaf:
All the religious rites like Namaz, roza, haj, moharram majlises and Ramadan prayers are vigorously followed by reformists as per true Islamic traditions and without alterations .
haa haaa
I will say a Muhawraa (idioms/structural character of a given language ) here :
Saawan ke andhe ko haraa hee haraa dikhta hai ...

Mr. Insaap,
Sawaal chahe kuch bhi ho , you reply in Uma Bharti way.
Uma bharti ko Zukaam ho gaya becoz kisi Videshee mahila ne Ice cream ko zyada thandaa kar diya .

khan19922001
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Re: Unity in the Community

#59

Unread post by khan19922001 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 1:02 pm

Dear Babu Bhai

A request. Can you please write in English. Urdu written in English is extremely frustrating to read, and at times it makes no sense.

Regards

tahir
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Re: Unity in the Community

#60

Unread post by tahir » Mon Aug 29, 2005 4:27 am

do u mean that u actually read their posts seriously!!!...they have failed to make sense in any language so far