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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
Recent emails from various Jamats :-
Aqa maula ye 2 nd moharram si waaz ma haazir thava vaste apna par farizat kidu che ema 2 nd moharram si waaz ma HAAZIR THAVANI NIYAT KARI ITS NA UPPER NIYAT NU REGISTER HAMNA KARI DO . EM REPORT TALAB CHE.
Vassalam
Aqa maula ye 2 nd moharram si waaz ma haazir thava vaste apna par farizat kidu che ema 2 nd moharram si waaz ma HAAZIR THAVANI NIYAT KARI ITS NA UPPER NIYAT NU REGISTER HAMNA KARI DO . EM REPORT TALAB CHE.
Vassalam
Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
So all his Bayans can be called WHITE LIESwhile holding Muffy's hand but now even the Mike has become 'Achhut' and it has to be covered with white cloth


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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
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Br GM
It is not Maatam it is called LISAN E YOGA
don't you see they are getting exercise for their hands (as per Zinger) and also by beating on chest they are providing blood supply to their heart. Aa Moula ni Hikmat chey taamey Naa samjhi sako
It is not Maatam it is called LISAN E YOGA
don't you see they are getting exercise for their hands (as per Zinger) and also by beating on chest they are providing blood supply to their heart. Aa Moula ni Hikmat chey taamey Naa samjhi sako
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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
INSTEAD OF CAKE CUTTING CEREMONIES ON THE NIGHT OF IBADAT, SHOUTING MOLA MUBARAK AND LOOTING BOHRAS ON HIS BIRTHDAY, MUFFY SHOULD LEARN SOMETHING FROM THE POPE ....
Pope Francis Shares Birthday Breakfast With 4 Homeless People
How did he celebrate? Well, he had the Vatican official in charge of alms-giving invite four homeless men who live in the neighborhood just outside of the Vatican walls to join him and the Vatican staff for a “family-like” morning mass.
After concluding mass, the Pope visited with the homeless men (one of whom brought their dog), and then personally invited them to join him for breakfast in his hotel room.
On Saturday, the Pope visited the children’s hospital in the Santa Marta Medical Center (located on Vatican grounds), where the kids surprised him with a birthday cake.
In his few months as Holy See, Pope Francis has already built a reputation as one of the most down-to-earth and candid Popes in recent history, sparking controversy with many of his progressive statements and actions.
http://thehigherlearning.com/2013/12/17 ... ss-people/
Pope Francis Shares Birthday Breakfast With 4 Homeless People
How did he celebrate? Well, he had the Vatican official in charge of alms-giving invite four homeless men who live in the neighborhood just outside of the Vatican walls to join him and the Vatican staff for a “family-like” morning mass.
After concluding mass, the Pope visited with the homeless men (one of whom brought their dog), and then personally invited them to join him for breakfast in his hotel room.
On Saturday, the Pope visited the children’s hospital in the Santa Marta Medical Center (located on Vatican grounds), where the kids surprised him with a birthday cake.
In his few months as Holy See, Pope Francis has already built a reputation as one of the most down-to-earth and candid Popes in recent history, sparking controversy with many of his progressive statements and actions.
http://thehigherlearning.com/2013/12/17 ... ss-people/
Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
barabar che, aa hukmat ni waat cheSBM wrote:Br GM
It is not Maatam it is called LISAN E YOGA
don't you see they are getting exercise for their hands (as per Zinger) and also by beating on chest they are providing blood supply to their heart. Aa Moula ni Hikmat chey taamey Naa samjhi sako




Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
Its hard to say, but the second picture has the word "Talaaki" written on it. For those who don't understand, talaaki (among Bohris) signifies holding Muffy's hand and leading him to wherever he is going. This is probably just a numbering for the sequence in which people get the "sharaaf" of holding the hand of Muffy. More curious would be if money was charged.
Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
Br. GM and Br. Biradar,
In all probability these are pics from majmui(collective) ziyafat, where a lot of families are clubbed together. every Ziyafat of SMB and now MS is pegged at 50 lac minimum, if they cant get a single party than they club together few families who are willing to pay and make up the amount. in these groups all kinds of people are there,payment differs as some are with 1.5 lacs to some with 15 lacs depending on the family.
they are given qadambosi passes according to the amount pledged it also changes the duration one will be with MS.
So the person shown with family 1 sticker might be the first in the queue and talaqqi people can be from these families who must have got this talaqqi offer for some najwa.
These Talaqqi snickered people can also be from outside ZIyafat to maximize the loot, they will only get like 5 sec with MS for 5k-21k depending on your laag walag.
In all probability these are pics from majmui(collective) ziyafat, where a lot of families are clubbed together. every Ziyafat of SMB and now MS is pegged at 50 lac minimum, if they cant get a single party than they club together few families who are willing to pay and make up the amount. in these groups all kinds of people are there,payment differs as some are with 1.5 lacs to some with 15 lacs depending on the family.
they are given qadambosi passes according to the amount pledged it also changes the duration one will be with MS.
So the person shown with family 1 sticker might be the first in the queue and talaqqi people can be from these families who must have got this talaqqi offer for some najwa.
These Talaqqi snickered people can also be from outside ZIyafat to maximize the loot, they will only get like 5 sec with MS for 5k-21k depending on your laag walag.
Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
For Abdes--Usually towards BANKRUPTCY----i.e Moral as well as FinancialFor those who don't understand, talaaki (among Bohris) signifies holding Muffy's hand and leading him to wherever he is going.
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SBM Bhai you are wrong
The mukhlis Mumin who holds Dai's hands to take him to Takhat is guaranteed that Dai will hold his hands to take him to Jannat.
The mukhlis Mumin who holds Dai's hands to take him to Takhat is guaranteed that Dai will hold his hands to take him to Jannat.
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Fantastic claim, can someone show where in Quran or any reliable scripture other than New Testament Avengical Bible such a claim has been made.abde53 wrote: The mukhlis Mumin who holds Dai's hands to take him to Takhat is guaranteed that Dai will hold his hands to take him to Jannat.
Allah Almighty forgives pretty much all sins except idol worshiping and trinity beliefs; "Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin most heinous indeed. (The Noble Quran, 4:48)." Therefore, Islam forms the direct relationship between a Muslim and His Creator Allah Almighty as long as a Muslim believes in One True GOD. There is no middle man between a Muslim and His Creator; "It was We Who Created man, and We know what dark suggestions his soul makes to him: for We are nearer to him than (his) jugular vein. (The Noble Quran, 50:16)"
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You are right as this is the venue of Mohammedi Masjid, Mumbai when Muffy came for Maghrib/Isha prayers. Its an excellent business proposition to make money whilst entering the Masjid, he must have collectively made a few lakhs from the many abdes who fell on each other for the azeem sharaf in just a few minutes, like the saying goes "Bhaagte bhoot ki langot" !!asad wrote:So the person shown with family 1 sticker might be the first in the queue and talaqqi people can be from these families who must have got this talaqqi offer for some najwa.
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As per reports, its now official that..... "Labaik Ya Dai Allah" is the new slogan for this campaign of Mohurrum.
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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
if someone is born on the night of Lailatul Qadr does not mean that he is a supernatural being. I know quiet lot of Bohras who have been blessed to be born on this holy night, but they do not boast off about it the way Muffadal Saifuddin does.
whether SMB(RA) called them with fancy titles like Aali Waqar, Aali Qadr etc, it does not change the fact that Mazoon-e-dawat was still above them it all the senses.
Lailatul Qadr is night for praying and remembering the Ehsanat and Karam which Allah (SWT) has bestowed on us. Not go and listen to stupid crap bayans of Laanats and self praising.
whether SMB(RA) called them with fancy titles like Aali Waqar, Aali Qadr etc, it does not change the fact that Mazoon-e-dawat was still above them it all the senses.
Lailatul Qadr is night for praying and remembering the Ehsanat and Karam which Allah (SWT) has bestowed on us. Not go and listen to stupid crap bayans of Laanats and self praising.
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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
An email is circulating among Bohras as under :-
Eye Opener for All Bohras about AK 53 Muffadal Saifuddin ::
• He has not passed high school. He dropped out of school before 7th grade.
• He has had no formal education in the secular world.
• He does not speak English fluently. He had trouble figuring out what "fawwara” means in English and asked kids in waez and they said (water) fountain. We have not heard him speak a sentence in English. Whereas Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin learnt English during Syedna Taher Saifuddin’s era. Teacher used to come at Saify Mahal.
• He does not speak fluent Arabic. He had trouble deciphering and translating a paragraph from Syedna Taher Saifuddin risala during Jamea exam. When he was asked to do by Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin , he tried, fumbled and kept quiet.
Mufaddal Saifuddin’s supporters say he was quiet for humility.
• He went to Cairo to learn Arabic language during the early years of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin’s era. It seems he dropped out from there as well.
• He has learnt from Kothar and Jamea Ustads most of his young life, as do most Saify Mahal children.
• Later he took sabaq’s from Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin with all other sons and daughters of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin .
• He is dependent on reading from book in waez. It is unclear who prepares the script, probably Mr. Mohammed Hasan and Mr. Haider Ali. Mufaddal Saifuddin does not have command of his content. We have never heard him to be able to do waez for 10 minutes without going back to the witten script.
• He takes Vasila by reading from script. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin only did this reaching older age.
• He has a problem of remembering things. Could not recall which year the alleged Nass letter diary was showed by Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin . People in general remember very important dates of their lives (Nikah, etc). This would be the most important of them all.
• He is well travelled across the world.
• He does bayan from Dawat kitabs (scripted) as well as other Shia unconfirmed sources, as we heard during Moharrem waez.
• He does not like museums.
Anything western is a problem and shows a disdain for it, unclear why. He told kids in USA when Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin visited museum in 1986 as to why, what is here to visit! This is from internal source in family of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin, I will keep private as requested.
• He sits on a truck on Janaza of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin, lacking knowledge that one, especially one who claims, should walk with the Janaza of a Dai as Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin did on Syedna Taher Saifuddin janaza.
• He went to Hajj after Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin is ill, did not do Tahiyyat Tawaaf in Kaaba as instructed by our doctrine. He says Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin , when he did his last Umra, did not do it (for age reasons, no other) so he is following him.
Eye Opener for All Bohras about AK 53 Muffadal Saifuddin ::
• He has not passed high school. He dropped out of school before 7th grade.
• He has had no formal education in the secular world.
• He does not speak English fluently. He had trouble figuring out what "fawwara” means in English and asked kids in waez and they said (water) fountain. We have not heard him speak a sentence in English. Whereas Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin learnt English during Syedna Taher Saifuddin’s era. Teacher used to come at Saify Mahal.
• He does not speak fluent Arabic. He had trouble deciphering and translating a paragraph from Syedna Taher Saifuddin risala during Jamea exam. When he was asked to do by Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin , he tried, fumbled and kept quiet.
Mufaddal Saifuddin’s supporters say he was quiet for humility.
• He went to Cairo to learn Arabic language during the early years of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin’s era. It seems he dropped out from there as well.
• He has learnt from Kothar and Jamea Ustads most of his young life, as do most Saify Mahal children.
• Later he took sabaq’s from Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin with all other sons and daughters of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin .
• He is dependent on reading from book in waez. It is unclear who prepares the script, probably Mr. Mohammed Hasan and Mr. Haider Ali. Mufaddal Saifuddin does not have command of his content. We have never heard him to be able to do waez for 10 minutes without going back to the witten script.
• He takes Vasila by reading from script. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin only did this reaching older age.
• He has a problem of remembering things. Could not recall which year the alleged Nass letter diary was showed by Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin . People in general remember very important dates of their lives (Nikah, etc). This would be the most important of them all.
• He is well travelled across the world.
• He does bayan from Dawat kitabs (scripted) as well as other Shia unconfirmed sources, as we heard during Moharrem waez.
• He does not like museums.
Anything western is a problem and shows a disdain for it, unclear why. He told kids in USA when Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin visited museum in 1986 as to why, what is here to visit! This is from internal source in family of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin, I will keep private as requested.
• He sits on a truck on Janaza of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin, lacking knowledge that one, especially one who claims, should walk with the Janaza of a Dai as Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin did on Syedna Taher Saifuddin janaza.
• He went to Hajj after Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin is ill, did not do Tahiyyat Tawaaf in Kaaba as instructed by our doctrine. He says Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin , when he did his last Umra, did not do it (for age reasons, no other) so he is following him.
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The return of the kids is still being milked. A mail on behalf of Taha & Ibrahim Qaid Johar saying Doa of MS & the "Taabudat" Amal of mumineen like fasting, ziarats, khatmul Quran etc helped their return. As a hadiya to all they have "emailed" a Doa of Imam Ali Zain ul Abedin! ROTFLMAO. Laugh all the way to the bank milking Bohra sentiment and in return mail a Doa which everyone knows
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