anajmi wrote:Yet, an "Aadam" did exist and his "fall" led to the creation of the Earth and its inhabitants.
This is in contradiction to the Quran. Read surah Baqara. Allah says to his angels that he is going to create a khalifa on earth. The angels ask why he wants to create a khalifa who will spread corruption on earth. Allah responds by saying that He knows what they know not and then He imparted his knowledge to Adam. This entire incident can be found atarting from ayah 38.
So Adam was created for earth. His fall wasnt the reason for the creation of earth. Of course ismaili "deeper" and "colorful" knowledge couldnt handle simple things so here we are with the likes of SMS and his minions running around!
Below is the translation of Surah Al Baqara verse no. 30 and Surah Sad verse no. 71 and 72
Sahih International - Surah 2 verse 30
And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know."
Yusuf Ali - Surah 2 verse 30
Behold, thy Lord said to the angels: "I will create a vicegerent on earth." They said: "Wilt Thou place therein one who will make mischief therein and shed blood?- whilst we do celebrate Thy praises and glorify Thy holy (name)?" He said: "I know what ye know not."
Surah Sad 38:71
Sahih International
[So mention] when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I am going to create a human being from clay.
Surah Sad 38:72
Sahih International
So when I have proportioned him and breathed into him of My [created] soul, then fall down to him in prostration."
Here we can see that the Angels are informing about a new creation of clay that it will cause mischief and bloodshed just based on hearing the intention of Allah swt and questioned His swt intention.
As it is evident from history that there was a bloodshed immediately between Adam a.s. sons Habil and Qabil. Qabil killed Habil. Since then till today the earth is filled with curruption and bloodshed and our whole history is full of it. So the future information given by Angels was absolutely correct. It could only mean either the Angels had ilm e gaib (unseen/hidden/future knowledge) or else they had witnessed similar creation made of clay before.
Brother Anajmi and people who deny ilm e gaib could be possesed by creation, I would like to know from you your opinion, how come the Angels accurately predict about the new creation without ever seeing it, just from hearing Allah swt intentions? Was it because the Angels had ilm e gaib or similar creation had been witnessed by them earlier or is there a third possibility?
If it is due to ilm e gaib then, if many Angels can have ilm e gaib then why cant the Adam a.s. who is superior to Angels have it or the few chosen ones who are superior to Adam a.s. cant have it?
If the Angels accurately giving out future information of Adam and his progeny and confidentely questioning Allah swt was due to their witnessing of a similar creation earlier, then Ismaili theory of multiple Adam and their cycle could be true and requires a unbiased and deep study without any prejudice.
I am not proposing anything here. I would like to suggest to my brothers and sisters to sometimes ponder and reason with your own logic while reading the Holy Quran, it will either result in new understanding/answers or else raise a question.
Questions brings us in a state of unrest and we start seeking answer to come back in a state of rest like all the things in nature. If we are sincere and honest and open in our search, we will not just find the answers but also the true source, rightful heir inshallah.
As per one saying either of the Prophet sws or maybe the Imam a.s - knowledge is lock and question is its key.
There are other references also which i have read supports ilm e gaib given to/ possesed by the chosen creation and possibility of earlier creation similar to Adam a.s.
I seek forgiveness from the Almighty for my mistakes and request my brothers to correct me whenever they find any mistake.