Bohra WhatsApp Duniya - 2015

[think]

moula to moula che, aava cartoon che ke hansi na rokai. su muffy moula avi topi pere ne misr ja se?
I don't think so. This is a sports topi and will only be worn by muffy during hunting trips or by women folks during moharram tamasha in bohri temples where they would be entering the battle grounds of masjids and markaz for fighting over sitting spaces and masallah spaces.

[dawedaar]

And yet Godhra remains a town with poor infrastructure (No proper healthcare facilities with people running to nearby big cities or Mumbai for most treatments and other things). If only a few abdes could cough up 20 crores, look at the potential of wealth in a small town Godhra itself. If those funds are invested in development like creating employment opportunities creating businesses, Godhra can become a good city itself. This is the problem with India and Indians. They will pay crores to godmen but will not invest in development. A recent case which is in media these days is that of Radhe Maa, a self styled god woman who is worth thousands of crores ->

https://www.facebook.com/ShriRadheMaa?fref=ts
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/why-radh ... op_stories

Look at her 'Abdes' who are supporting her like anything!

Forwarded as Received :

See 2015 has been an exceptionally good year for "Timru paan" business (leaves used for making beedi's in India), a business considered haraam by Bohras. Many Godhrawalas (Bohras) made big money this season in "Timru paan". Seems the total income for Godhrawalas alone was in excess of 25 Cr this year, yes 25 crores. Kothaar knew this and hence planned the timely visit for Muffy to Godhra, to milk all the income recently earned by the Godhrawala Abde's. In less than a week, the royal gang whisked away with over 20 crores collected in return for so called Karam and Ehsan. Over 150 titles were given away, each costing lacs. Over 100 private nikahs, each costing lacs again. Petty change collected thru Ziyafats, Kadams, Sehras and Najwa's, few running in crores. Post the visit, Bohras claim 'Godhrawala naseebdaar che ane kamai gaya'. Only God knows kon kamai gaya?

[alivasan]

And yet Godhra remains a town with poor infrastructure (No proper healthcare facilities with people running to nearby big cities or Mumbai for most treatments and other things). If only a few abdes could cough up 20 crores, look at the potential of wealth in a small town Godhra itself. If those funds are invested in development like creating employment opportunities creating businesses, Godhra can become a good city itself. This is the problem with India and Indians. They will pay crores to godmen but will not invest in development. A recent case which is in media these days is that of Radhe Maa, a self styled god woman who is worth thousands of crores ->

https://www.facebook.com/ShriRadheMaa?fref=ts
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/why-radh ... op_stories

Look at her 'Abdes' who are supporting her like anything!

Forwarded as Received :

See 2015 has been an exceptionally good year for "Timru paan" business (leaves used for making beedi's in India), a business considered haraam by Bohras. Many Godhrawalas (Bohras) made big money this season in "Timru paan". Seems the total income for Godhrawalas alone was in excess of 25 Cr this year, yes 25 crores. Kothaar knew this and hence planned the timely visit for Muffy to Godhra, to milk all the income recently earned by the Godhrawala Abde's. In less than a week, the royal gang whisked away with over 20 crores collected in return for so called Karam and Ehsan. Over 150 titles were given away, each costing lacs. Over 100 private nikahs, each costing lacs again. Petty change collected thru Ziyafats, Kadams, Sehras and Najwa's, few running in crores. Post the visit, Bohras claim 'Godhrawala naseebdaar che ane kamai gaya'. Only God knows kon kamai gaya?

Rahul Mahajan's tweet on tweeter
Rahul Mahajan ‏@TheRahulMahajan Aug 1

Rahul Mahajan retweeted आज तक

More than terrorist we should be careful about these so called BABA' s and their FOLLOWERS

Its height of dhongi baba's and babies in INDIA and its DANGEROUS to stay in this so called JUNGLE RAAJ - HAMARA BHARAT..REMEMBER MUFFY IS JUST ONE ON THE LIST of hundreds - taha rapist, muffy chor, asaram rapist, nitayanand rapist, satya sai rapist and list is very big. There are many who operates on same modus operandi.They "loot" untill Behind the scenes are fully exposed

[summer123]

Forwarded As Received

Aqa mowla nu Khair Maqdam AlQahera JAMAAT ye kido tou tema Vadhaavvaa ni thali Al Anwar Naa model si zeenat kidi hati

[Dumbledore]

http://deals53.com/special-labbaik-ya-d ... white.html

[SBM]

http://deals53.com/special-labbaik-ya-d ... white.html

It is overpriced by Rs 30.00

[Dumbledore]

As received on whatsapp

में एक इंदौर का हिन्दू कवि हु। इस्लाम और बोहरा समाज को मेने बोहत पढ़ा है। एक बात आपसे कहना चाहता हु।

करबला में जब हूसैन अली असगर को ले के गए थे तब आपने बच्चे का खून हाथ में लेके आसमान की और फेक दिया था।
आज भी हमारे बच्चो को कोई मुश्किल आती है तो हम हुसैन के शहज़ादे अली असगर का वास्ता लेते है। तो जो सैयदना साहेब के कहने से हुसैन की कथा में आएंगा तो हुसैन उसके बच्चो को अली असगर के वास्ते से आसमानी नहीं बना देंगे ?
ज़रा सोचो ऐ बोहरा समाज वालो के जब हुसैन ने तुम्हारे बच्चों के लिये अपना बच्चा क़ुरबान कर दिया तो क्या हुसैन तुम्हारे बच्चों को इस दुनिया की शिक्षा में तरक़्क़ी नहीं देंगे ?
ज़रा हुसैन की कथा में जाके अपने बच्चों को बिठाओ और फिर देखना की किस तरक्क़ी की उचाई पर आपके बच्चे पोहचते है।
आपके तो अच्छे भाग्य है के आपके धर्म गुरु आपको कथा सुनने के लिए बुलाते है। और हमें कथा करनी हो तो मेरे ही परिवार मे सभी सदस्य अलग अलग गुरू को मानते है। अब कहा जाए और किसे बुलाये।



M.A. L.L.B.
रवि कुमार अनन्त
इंदौर।

[dawedaar]

Imam Hussain (AS) ki kathaa kaha sunaate hai... Ab toh sirf Dai ki kathaaye sunaate hai, Waajebaat, FMB, Qardan ki kathaaye sunaate hai!

As received on whatsapp

में एक इंदौर का हिन्दू कवि हु। इस्लाम और बोहरा समाज को मेने बोहत पढ़ा है। एक बात आपसे कहना चाहता हु।

करबला में जब हूसैन अली असगर को ले के गए थे तब आपने बच्चे का खून हाथ में लेके आसमान की और फेक दिया था।
आज भी हमारे बच्चो को कोई मुश्किल आती है तो हम हुसैन के शहज़ादे अली असगर का वास्ता लेते है। तो जो सैयदना साहेब के कहने से हुसैन की कथा में आएंगा तो हुसैन उसके बच्चो को अली असगर के वास्ते से आसमानी नहीं बना देंगे ?
ज़रा सोचो ऐ बोहरा समाज वालो के जब हुसैन ने तुम्हारे बच्चों के लिये अपना बच्चा क़ुरबान कर दिया तो क्या हुसैन तुम्हारे बच्चों को इस दुनिया की शिक्षा में तरक़्क़ी नहीं देंगे ?
ज़रा हुसैन की कथा में जाके अपने बच्चों को बिठाओ और फिर देखना की किस तरक्क़ी की उचाई पर आपके बच्चे पोहचते है।
आपके तो अच्छे भाग्य है के आपके धर्म गुरु आपको कथा सुनने के लिए बुलाते है। और हमें कथा करनी हो तो मेरे ही परिवार मे सभी सदस्य अलग अलग गुरू को मानते है। अब कहा जाए और किसे बुलाये।



M.A. L.L.B.
रवि कुमार अनन्त
इंदौर।

[ghulam muhammed]

As received on whatsapp

में एक इंदौर का हिन्दू कवि हु। इस्लाम और बोहरा समाज को मेने बोहत पढ़ा है। एक बात आपसे कहना चाहता हु।

करबला में जब हूसैन अली असगर को ले के गए थे तब आपने बच्चे का खून हाथ में लेके आसमान की और फेक दिया था।
आज भी हमारे बच्चो को कोई मुश्किल आती है तो हम हुसैन के शहज़ादे अली असगर का वास्ता लेते है। तो जो सैयदना साहेब के कहने से हुसैन की कथा में आएंगा तो हुसैन उसके बच्चो को अली असगर के वास्ते से आसमानी नहीं बना देंगे ?
ज़रा सोचो ऐ बोहरा समाज वालो के जब हुसैन ने तुम्हारे बच्चों के लिये अपना बच्चा क़ुरबान कर दिया तो क्या हुसैन तुम्हारे बच्चों को इस दुनिया की शिक्षा में तरक़्क़ी नहीं देंगे ?
ज़रा हुसैन की कथा में जाके अपने बच्चों को बिठाओ और फिर देखना की किस तरक्क़ी की उचाई पर आपके बच्चे पोहचते है।
आपके तो अच्छे भाग्य है के आपके धर्म गुरु आपको कथा सुनने के लिए बुलाते है। और हमें कथा करनी हो तो मेरे ही परिवार मे सभी सदस्य अलग अलग गुरू को मानते है। अब कहा जाए और किसे बुलाये।



M.A. L.L.B.
रवि कुमार अनन्त
इंदौर।

Muffy has gone mad !! During the Nass manipulation drama he used a 'Hindu' man to strengthen his claim for nass, the man was asked to narrate a fake dream..... Now he is again using a 'Hindu' poet to propagate his comical bayans in Mohurrum and canvas for him !! He uses non-bohras just like he uses Hindu ministers and government officials to help him protect the billions of rupees he loots from abdes.

[ghulam muhammed]

forwarded As Received :

ONE MORE STUPIDITY OF MUFFY IN MOMBASA !!

Marhoom Shk Zainuddin bhai Badri (of Mombasa) na wife Farida ben IDDAT ma bethi gaya hata (since about 10 days)..... Gai kaale Aqa Mola TUS Mohallatus Saifee ma Qadambosi ni bethak ma Farida ben ne bulaya ane farvamyu ke "Aaavo Iddat todi ne ane qadambosi thaav... ane paacha bethjo".....

Mola to Mola che... Andher Nagri chopat RAJA !!

[anajmi]

The bohras have certainly got the leader they deserve. Out of the 72 sects, i dont know which one will go to jannah but i can definitely say that the bohras are from the remaining 71.

I have seen the most devout of burhanuddin abdes express shock at the behavior of this conman.

[ghulam muhammed]

Out of the 72 sects, i dont know which one will go to jannah but i can definitely say that the bohras are from the remaining 71.

I fully agree with the above !!

[ghulam muhammed]

Forwarded as Received :

Surat na Najmi Trust ma 17 varas imaandari thi khidmat karnar Esoofbhai Valibhai Saleh je Jamea ma guide ni tatha Jamea ma roj raate mumin bhaiyo ane behno ne jamaadva tatha Ramzan ma sawaare Quran Sharif na daur ma ... tatha biji ghani badhi khidmat aapnaar ni aaje haalat ghani kharaab che... Bed par che... koi ne olakh ta nathi pan apna Amil sahib, Jamea na sahebo ane Tanzeem na sahebo pan emne olakhta nathi.... koi pan emni kher khabar poochva walu nathi...aa che apni Bohra jamaat !!! Bechara ne aulad pan nathi, Allah siwai koi nathi.... Su Mola reham karse ke fakat paisa kamaava ma busy rehse ???

[alam]

The bohras have certainly got the leader they deserve. Out of the 72 sects, i dont know which one will go to jannah but i can definitely say that the bohras are from the remaining 71.

I have seen the most devout of burhanuddin abdes express shock at the behavior of this conman.

How judgemental of you Anajmi... and no different from Kothar people who are judgemental. Even your observations of seeing

"most devout of burhanuddin abdes express shock at the behavior of this conman"

doesn't elicit any compassion in you. Quite heartless.

And GM you too agree with this? Noone can judge who goes or does not go to Jannah. So stop perpetuating human judgement on this matter.

Your observation, Anajmi, about how shocked devout abdes are is something I have observed also, and so have many, many others. In fact, one of them told me so, that something is terribly wrong with "this SMS Daiship" in a very hush voice, as if they didn't even want their ears to hear what they themselves are saying. Its a painful, inconvenient truth that they begin to face, and with that there is much grief over the potential loss of faith. So next time someone gets shocked at the behavior of SMS or his entourage, be aware that it is a signal that their common sense is still alive, and they need compassion, not criticism, even here, on this forum, or Especially, on this forum.

[anajmi]

Igonrance and jahiliyat doesnt deserve compassion. Learn from your mistakes and rectify them. Dont seek pity from others.

[Al-Noor]

Forwarded as Received :

Surat na Najmi Trust ma 17 varas imaandari thi khidmat karnar Esoofbhai Valibhai Saleh je Jamea ma guide ni tatha Jamea ma roj raate mumin bhaiyo ane behno ne jamaadva tatha Ramzan ma sawaare Quran Sharif na daur ma ... tatha biji ghani badhi khidmat aapnaar ni aaje haalat ghani kharaab che... Bed par che... koi ne olakh ta nathi pan apna Amil sahib, Jamea na sahebo ane Tanzeem na sahebo pan emne olakhta nathi.... koi pan emni kher khabar poochva walu nathi...aa che apni Bohra jamaat !!! Bechara ne aulad pan nathi, Allah siwai koi nathi.... Su Mola reham karse ke fakat paisa kamaava ma busy rehse ???

if he has done all these khidmat for ALLAH he dont need any one, ALLAH is KING OF KING he will take care of his needs very well Ameen....dont expect any thing from surat amil that jaadiya khabis muder is good for nothing. his all team is full of thieves and thugs, just look at their face and you will see lanat on them.

[think]

it is better he does not have the kothar or any relatives. The example the sons made of the previous dai when he was on a wheel chair is still in our thoughts. He was treated as a puppet and the shrewd sons shoved him around and stuck all kinds of painful support systems so he could sit straight on his wheel chair. Let alone all the strong medicines they shoved into his throat and poked needles into his arteries so they could keep him alive.
surely the mumin yusuf bhai does not want to be in this ghastly state. Let him be in peace with his creator and die peacefully.

[Dumbledore]

Happy independence day

[alam]

I have seen the most devout of burhanuddin abdes express shock at the behavior of this conman.

Anajmi - If you consider this particular instance as an example of "jahiliyat etc " then there is nothing further for you to see and observe if you keep seeing things with the same lense of prejudice (pre- judging).

[anajmi]

It isn't this particular instance. It is all of it. Have you seen the pictures of half submerged abdes with folded hands in front of the conman standing on his balcony? These are all examples of the bohra descent into complete jahalat!!

[ghulam muhammed]

Bohras fall at the feet of Narendra Modi

watsup msg

Forwarded as Received :-

Baad Salam,

As you know, Prime Minister of India Sri Narendra Modi is arriving in the UAE next week for a state visit. It is a first visit by an Indian Prime Minister to this country in a long long time.

As has been the case with all his overseas visits, he will be addressing the large Indian diaspora on Monday August 17 at Dubai Cricket Stadium, Sports city, commencing at 6 pm. We are in discussion with the Indian Embassy to allocate a separate block at the stadium for Mumineen of UAE. To do this, we need to register our names so that the required access pass is issued to those who register.

Please complete the attached linked http://goo.gl/forms/qUCOHO3iOV . In view of the limited number of seats still left, the link will be closed by 9 am on Wednesday 12 August 2015.

Wassalam.

[ghulam muhammed]

[bohrabhai]

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After 1915, when Syedna Taher Saifuddin came to Gadi, his family has only on motive: collect money. Bohraintellectual and talent is crushed. Very Sad state of affair. Yet they make us sing their Qaseedas.
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The Dawoodi Bohras were once proud of their Intellectual Heritage. In every city and town there were Dawoodi Bohra literary igneous, writers, poets and journalists writing in Gujarati, Urdu and English languages. Even Bohra women were not left behind.
They used to compose Gazals, Poems, Nohas, Marsiyas, Salams and Qquasidas and recite in Mehfils. In 19th and begining of 20th century several dailies and monthlies like Bauge-Momin (Khan bhai Amiji), Gulzare-Hakimi (Hasan Ali Gulzar), Gulistane-Daudi (Ali Akbar Alamdar), Munsif (Abbas Aurangabadi), Aage-Kadam (Ahmed Ali Adamji Jivaji), Salahkar (Yusuf Surti), Vohra Hirdey (Abdul Qadar), Duatul-Akrameen (seth Ismailji, Vohra Samachar (Nooruddin Kapadia), Manzil (Hatim Chirag), Vatan (Saif Palanpuri), Tamanna (Qutub Azad), Dawoodi Bohra Bulletin (Husaini Sanchawala), Gulshane-Dawoodi (Jileesgar) etc. had become popular and a Bohra household item. Names of Badri Kanchwala, Shamsheer Godhervi and Ameen Azad's papers are not in my memory. This community had produced a Gujarati poet like Abdul Husain Mareez who was honoured by a title of “Gujarat-no-Galib” and internationally famous painter like “Tayyeb Mehta”.
But because of clergy's domination on social and intellectual lives of Bohras since Syedna Taher Saifuddin Saheb's time, there is taking place a sharp and dangerous decline in intelligence quotient of Dawoodi Bohras.
In last 100 years every aspect of Dawoodi Bohra Community has changed, moral, values, belief, behavior, family and Jamat life, relationship, appearance, dress, communication.
The coming generations of Dawoodi Bohras would not even know how bright and intelligent this community once was. As the trend continues, they would see only dull, timid, terrorized, selfish, bootlicking and show off baboon Bohras around them. Like brainless puppets they would be dancing to the tunes of their selfish masters. They would say and do what their masters would like them to say and do.
As history books are seized and destroyed they would not know that their Dais prior to 51st Dai, Syedna Taher Saifuddin, lived a simple and exemplary life. They lived like Hazrat Ali ibne Abi Talib. They remained poor and indebted. They were quite benevolent towards the Community and generally did not extort any money from the community and whatever voluntary contributions were offered to them they spent on the welfare of the community. Earlier Dais restricted their authority to the religious affairs only and never interfered with the worldly secular affairs of the Bohras. Their time was mostly spent in worship of Allah, imparting religious knowledge to their followers and writing books for the guidance of future generations.
Though Intelligence is inborn and gifted, but it can be increased by problem-solving, discovering, creativity techniques, deep thinking, learning from past experience, practice, improve memory, attention, concentration, reasoning, social skills, decision making and planning.
Then there are men with Super-brain who can perform/ process complicated tasks in a relatively faster speed.
High Intelligence Society usually refers to a community where people with higher I.Q/ geniuses meet and exchange their ideas for the benefit of humanity and encourage the uses of intelligence.
History shows that the Dawoodi Bohras in 18th and 19th centuries were quite educated, (there was a class of Ulemas, learned persons), honest, fearless, intelligent, hardworking, enterprising, benevolent and of independent thinking.
So were their Dais who lived a simple and exemplary life, like Hazrat Ali, who remained poor and indebted and quite benevolent and caring towards the Community. Dawoodi Bohras too centered around them as they were their guide, protector and well-wisher, mostly spending their time in worship of Allah and imparting religious knowledge to their followers.
However in the beginning of 20th century in 1915 Syedna Taher Saifuddin Saheb became Dai who was very intelligent, ambitious and materialistic. He very cleverly terrorized and enslaved the community and started dominating it. Right from the beginning he started building his Financial Empire by all means without caring whether they were legal or illegal, moral or immoral. He started certain practices in the community which were unheard in Islam and in Dawoodi Bohra history. 'Salam-Bandh, Jamat Kharij, Abde-Syedna, Sajda to Dai, Tasleemat, NKD, MKD, Huzure-Aala, Sultan, Shahzada, Shahzadi, Darbar, Raza, Mafi (apology) etc. The list is very long. Thus he changed the whole character of the Dawate-Hadiyah and of the community and turned the Dawat in to Sultanate making it his own family's domination, controlling all religious, social and private lives of Bohras.
The Dawoodi Bohras were excluded from any decision making process. They were banned from asking any question regarding community and Jamat affairs. The ulema-class was eliminated replacing them by often ignorant black-marketeers by making them Mullas and Shaikhs depending on how much lakhs or crores of rupees they could offer.
Ever since Dawoodi Bohras are kept busy in arranging welcome parties for Sultan and his Shahzadas and Amils, the birthday celebrations, Moharram sermons in far away places with hi tech recordings and relays, meetings with politicians and corporate kings, in Burhani Expos, Band-competitions, Rasme-Saifee, kadambosi, Jamans, matam, Ziyarat tours etc.
Any philanthropy, like establishing school/college, hospital, scholarship trust, building Mosque, Musafirkhana if a Dawoodi Bohra wishes to do he/she has to do it in Syedna's name and control.
Today a Dawoodi Bohra is not allowed to think, do any creative writings, ask accounts and plan his life independently.
Bohra men and women were famous for their cooking. Food plays an integral part of Bohra's daily life. Apart from the detectable and distinctive cooking style, there are certain traditional ways in which food is prepared and served. Bohra women’s creativity can be seen in variety of Bohra dishes like Sodanna, Malida, Lacchka, Kalamro, Kheema Khichdi, Laganya Seekh, Mutton Kari Chawal, Sarki, Dal Chawal Palidu, Kefti Dal, Patwalya, Hariso, Haleem, Dabba Gosht etc. Now even that creative talent has been eliminated by providing mass-manufactured meals to Bohra houses from common Jamat kitchens. Bohras meals were so Tastee that even late Syedna Taher Saifuddin tried to monopolies by spreading a concept that Bohra foods are sounique as they cooked by Raza of Sayedna.
Thus because of clergy's domination on social and intellectual lives of Bohras there is a sharp and dangerous decline in 'intelligence quotient of Dawoodi Bohra.

[dawedaar]

So loooonnngggg..... zzzzzzzz

[ghulam muhammed]

Forwarded as Received :-

Mumin bhi kitna Anokha jeev hai

Pehle Mola ki turbat par maatha rakh kar Dhan-Daulat maangta hai !

Naseeb se mil jaati hai to phir garv se usi ke Shehzade ko daulat ka bada salaam dekar, Mulla, Miyasaab ban jaata hai !

Baad me wahi ka wahi LUKKHA !

[Al-Noor]

Forwarded as Received :-

Mumin bhi kitna Anokha jeev hai

Pehle Mola ki turbat par maatha rakh kar Dhan-Daulat maangta hai !

Naseeb se mil jaati hai to phir garv se usi ke Shehzade ko daulat ka bada salaam dekar, Mulla, Miyasaab ban jaata hai !

Baad me wahi ka wahi LUKKHA !

LUKKHA

[dawedaar]

To all mumineen,
Ek Zaroori Elaan
Please note that Saifee Hospital will remain closed for 10/12 days being Bohra hospital as per the announcement of Our Aqa Maula Mufaddal Saifuddin as no business, schools and no jobs for the 10 days of moharram as majority of management, doctors are Mumineen who has to obey the farmaan to attend sermons, or else their Jamat card will be cancelled. All Kabrastan staff also not available during that period, so no death allowed.

[alam]

Dawedaar, I can't tell whether this is for real or a joke about shutting down Saifee Hospital.
Ok, granted qabrastan is a joke.

But Saifee Hospital is owned by Dawat trust, and is a business, which must be shut down during ashara, no? People can go to other hospitals run by the others.

[dawedaar]

Ofcourse, the whole message is a joke!

Dawedaar, I can't tell whether this is for real or a joke about shutting down Saifee Hospital.
Ok, granted qabrastan is a joke.

But Saifee Hospital is owned by Dawat trust, and is a business, which must be shut down during ashara, no? People can go to other hospitals run by the others.

[gulam_parinda]

Just received these pics on whatsapp..