Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:35 pm

HYPOCRISY is your religion and falsehood is your life, Your souls are freezing in the clutches of the priests and sorcerers, and your bodies tremble between the paws of despots and the shedders of blood.

-----Khalil Gibran.

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:03 am

Kevi Azim o Shaan che mola ni Dekho Dekho. Mola AMU MA jai NE potana band baja sathe potanu j istikbaal karyu.
Mola mola muffadal mola.
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Unread post by bohrabhai » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:10 pm

Arab Shaan na Dai che muffadal mola. Taher saiffudin mola nu naam khotu lakhelu hatu to pan mola e vaat vandho na lidho.
Mola mola muffadal mola
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Unread post by Ateka » Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:50 pm

The correct arabic pronunciation is indeed Tahir, not Taher. If anything at least the Arabs know how to pronounce correctly. The dawat language is a khichri and therefore almost all names are pronounced incorrectly in the dawati zaban. For example all I's are pronounced as e's as is the case here. What a shame! The Bohra clergies not only prevents the followers to understand the teaching of Allah (Quran) but infact teaches them to read Quran incorrectly. I wonder why God has chosen to keep some Muslims; as in abdes, dumb and hidden all knowledge from them.
bohrabhai wrote:Arab Shaan na Dai che muffadal mola. Taher saiffudin mola nu naam khotu lakhelu hatu to pan mola e vaat vandho na lidho.
Mola mola muffadal mola

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Unread post by fayyaaz » Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:26 pm

bohrabhai wrote:Arab Shaan na Dai che muffadal mola. Taher saiffudin mola nu naam khotu lakhelu hatu to pan mola e vaat vandho na lidho.
Mola mola muffadal mola
Actually, it is mufaddal, not muffadal. It is saifuddin, not saiffudin. But the spellings get jumbled up in translation. If you wrote in Arabic or Daawat zuban, they will be accurate. In any case, multiple spellings are ok. Muhammad can be spelt Mohamed, Mamet, Mohamet etc.

Arabic zer is pronounced like i in bit, but Daawat zer is pronounced like e in bet. So it is ok to write Tahir as Taher as long as you are not reciting the Quran with tajweed where these things matter to sticklers. Hardly anyone, and particularly the non-Arab Muslim majority, recites Quran with tajweed.

So back off being such a jerk!

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Unread post by Ateka » Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:01 pm

Salam brother fayyaz

If you may, please read my post again. I have not mentioned anything about spelling, but wholly about pronunciation. One needs to be as precise as possible when reciting the Quran. If it's an I, an E pronunciation will not do. In some cases it can change the meaning significantly.

fayyaaz wrote:
bohrabhai wrote:Arab Shaan na Dai che muffadal mola. Taher saiffudin mola nu naam khotu lakhelu hatu to pan mola e vaat vandho na lidho.
Mola mola muffadal mola
Actually, it is mufaddal, not muffadal. It is saifuddin, not saiffudin. But the spellings get jumbled up in translation. If you wrote in Arabic or Daawat zuban, they will be accurate. In any case, multiple spellings are ok. Muhammad can be spelt Mohamed, Mamet, Mohamet etc.

Arabic zer is pronounced like i in bit, but Daawat zer is pronounced like e in bet. So it is ok to write Tahir as Taher as long as you are not reciting the Quran with tajweed where these things matter to sticklers. Hardly anyone, and particularly the non-Arab Muslim majority, recites Quran with tajweed.

So back off being such a jerk!

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Sat Feb 27, 2016 12:29 am

while arabic scholars fighting over E and I, bigger question who built the school and how MS got to do the inauguration is left behind...

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Unread post by wise_guy » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:40 am

lol!
bohrabhai wrote:Kevi Azim o Shaan che mola ni Dekho Dekho. Mola AMU MA jai NE potana band baja sathe potanu j istikbaal karyu.
Mola mola muffadal mola.

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Unread post by AgnosticIndian » Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:46 pm

Has he bought the Taj?

May be next daakhli system wali qabar will be in Taj, 54th will ensure that
bohrabhai wrote:Aje muffadal mola shah jahan ane mumtaz ni ziyarat vaste agra padhara.
Mola mola muffadal mola.
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Unread post by anajmi » Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:57 pm

Hardly anyone, and particularly the non-Arab Muslim majority, recites Quran with tajweed.
There is some saying about how a cat closes its eyes and believes no one can see it or an ostrich hiding its head in the sand or something. Not sure which one applies but staying with those illiterate in tajweed and believing that hardly anyone recites quran with tajweed, falls in one of those ignorant categories. The community that I am a part of (hardly any Arabs) almost all recite Quran with Tajweed and classes are conducted for children and adults for tajweed and people of all ages are learning tajweed. The bohras are a lost cause. As long as education creates fools like fayyaaz bohras will remain ignorant.

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:00 am

Please someone from India update me whether SMS was able to get an appointment with the PM Modi recently ?

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:42 am

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Ozdundee wrote:Please someone from India update me whether SMS was able to get an appointment with the PM Modi recently ?

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Unread post by allbird » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:52 am

qutub_mamajiwala wrote:
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Ozdundee wrote:Please someone from India update me whether SMS was able to get an appointment with the PM Modi recently ?
Two bros together comparing scores. Gujarat ka score tha ? Saifee mahal ki stampede ka score tha !

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:59 am

qutub_mamajiwala wrote:
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Ozdundee wrote:Please someone from India update me whether SMS was able to get an appointment with the PM Modi recently ?
MS looks tensed, I wont be surprised if modi has shown thenga to MS and now asking for more money to clear his projects and help in his court case....

if modi could forget his promises to mother land MS kyaa cheez hain bhai.

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Unread post by abde53 » Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:51 am

Al-Noor wrote:
qutub_mamajiwala wrote:
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MS looks tensed,.
Wah bhi Wah Al Noor Bhai
Tamey to bhai ghana expert lago chu hawey photo joeyne tamne khabad padi jai chey key Moula Tnse chey, Tamey sau RAW maa kaam karo chau

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:01 am

jo gundo (modi) ko dost rakhe aur ALLAH ke waliyon (momeenin) se dushmani, woh tense nahi honga to kyaa hongaa. :lol: MS is walking on a thin naked sword.....

sorry for strong words, but the truth is, MS bina fayde ke apne baap ki mayyat mein bhi nahi gaya, woh bina matlab ke modi jaise gunde ko milne delhi aise hi nahi gaya.
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Unread post by Al-Noor » Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:37 pm

Modi too has learn few things from kothaar....DB should be proud that now PM of India follows financial secrets just like their syedna sahab. :D

Mubarak thai

PMO blocks access to information on ministers’ assets, just like how kothar has blocked all access to kothari funds.


The details of assets and liabilities of the union council of ministers has been available online since 2010. However, the details are now password protected and can only be accessed by the authorized personnel. In fact information on assets and liabilities of the present council of ministers was available till recently. According to the website pmindia.gov.in, the information was last updated on February 11, 2015 when the user name and password protection might have been introduced.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 388885.cms

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Unread post by KaizarKuwait » Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:33 pm

Mufaddal Moula tus has showered us with pearls of wisdom over and over again and we mumineen are fortunate to receive this continuous flow of ne'mat on his hands. I want to share with mumineen one very important point. I say that it is important because Mufaddal Moula has stressed this very point in his bayan on Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA's milad not only in 1436 but also 1437 as well.

Mufaddal Moula says in shaan of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin that his shaan was azeem and that he was prepared by Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA from a young age to ascend to the aa'la rutba of Dai al-Mutlaq. From the day that this mawlood entered the world, there has been barakaat in Dawat.

One of the many facets, indeed a crucial one is that, as Mufaddal Moula narrated in both milad waaz in 1436 and 1437, that Syedna Taher Saifuddin narrated in his waaz that Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin has done waaz with the tayeed of Imamuz Zaman AS, and that this is a clear sign (alamat) of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin's ascension to the gadi of Dawat, as only a Dai receives the tayeed of Imamuz Zaman.

This speaks doubly to the shaan of both sahebs - Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA for having the foresight and vision to prepare his Mansoos and for seeing with the light of Imamuz Zaman the flow of tayeed towards his Mansoos, and also to his Mansoos Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA for receiving the tayeed of Imamuz Zaman even before his ascension to the rutba of Dai al-Mutlaq. Syedna Taher Saifuddin has attested to this, and we mumineen are indeed fortunate to understand the significance of Syedna Taher Saifuddin's words from the lips of Mufaddal Moula.

Indeed, for he whom Syedna Taher Saifuddin has foretold receives the tayeed of Imamuz Zaman, verily a lofty station is destined.

With lakh shukur to Mufaddal Moula for giving us adna ghulam's the opportunity to understand this most aa'la tasawwur.

Abde Syedna TUS
Moiz Mulla Sadiqali Porbunderwala
Above post was recently on Malumaat official DB list. So one the one hand Muffy says that receiving tayeed from Imam is an alamat or sign of being a Dai, and on the other hand, the only two people regarding whom Syedna Taher Saifuddin made this exact statement is Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin and SKQ!?

Is Muffy admitting that SKQ has one of the same alamats or signs of becoming a Dai as 52nd Dai? Indicated by none other than 51st Dai!?

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Unread post by Biradar » Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:08 am

KaizarKuwait wrote:
Mufaddal Moula tus has showered us with pearls of wisdom over and over again and we mumineen are fortunate to receive this continuous flow of ne'mat on his hands. I want to share with mumineen one very important point. I say that it is important because Mufaddal Moula has stressed this very point in his bayan on Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA's milad not only in 1436 but also 1437 as well.

Mufaddal Moula says in shaan of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin that his shaan was azeem and that he was prepared by Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA from a young age to ascend to the aa'la rutba of Dai al-Mutlaq. From the day that this mawlood entered the world, there has been barakaat in Dawat.

One of the many facets, indeed a crucial one is that, as Mufaddal Moula narrated in both milad waaz in 1436 and 1437, that Syedna Taher Saifuddin narrated in his waaz that Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin has done waaz with the tayeed of Imamuz Zaman AS, and that this is a clear sign (alamat) of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin's ascension to the gadi of Dawat, as only a Dai receives the tayeed of Imamuz Zaman.

This speaks doubly to the shaan of both sahebs - Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA for having the foresight and vision to prepare his Mansoos and for seeing with the light of Imamuz Zaman the flow of tayeed towards his Mansoos, and also to his Mansoos Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA for receiving the tayeed of Imamuz Zaman even before his ascension to the rutba of Dai al-Mutlaq. Syedna Taher Saifuddin has attested to this, and we mumineen are indeed fortunate to understand the significance of Syedna Taher Saifuddin's words from the lips of Mufaddal Moula.

Indeed, for he whom Syedna Taher Saifuddin has foretold receives the tayeed of Imamuz Zaman, verily a lofty station is destined.

With lakh shukur to Mufaddal Moula for giving us adna ghulam's the opportunity to understand this most aa'la tasawwur.

Abde Syedna TUS
Moiz Mulla Sadiqali Porbunderwala
Above post was recently on Malumaat official DB list. So one the one hand Muffy says that receiving tayeed from Imam is an alamat or sign of being a Dai, and on the other hand, the only two people regarding whom Syedna Taher Saifuddin made this exact statement is Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin and SKQ!?

Is Muffy admitting that SKQ has one of the same alamats or signs of becoming a Dai as 52nd Dai? Indicated by none other than 51st Dai!?
Muffy is a fool, and is unable to see the inconsistency in his own position. S. Taher Saifuddin has clearly and unambiguously said that his son, S. Qutbuddin, does waaz with the tayeed of the Imam. These, and other statements from STS are clear indications of the high esteem he held his youngest (but one) son. Given that Dawedar Muffy is not very smart or sensible, he inadvertently has admitted, it seems, the falsehood of his Iblisi claims.

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Unread post by alam » Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:46 am

Muffy simply reads the bayans written by his speech writers, who are double agents bent on destroying Muffy. Why else do you think this sub-culture has emerged of "reinterpreting every single bayaan and vaaz of Muffy and his snafus goofs".
They have made life really hard and complicated for Muffy's PR machine. Muffy people are fumbling with cover ups and new projects and programs to keep the cult of nonsense alive. They are either destroying themselves or there are many many layers of double-crossing and triple crossing going on.

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Unread post by allbird » Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:24 am

bohrabhai wrote:Kevi Azim o Shaan che mola ni Dekho Dekho. Mola AMU MA jai NE potana band baja sathe potanu j istikbaal karyu.
Mola mola muffadal mola.

Just a question with respect to the second video, Moula is riding the green buick which was originally gifted to Syedna Taher Saiffuddin RA. How did it landed up in New Delhi ?

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:58 am

Bhai log ek baat ko samjho. ye taid aur ilhaam ko rakho ek jagah pe, there is lots of way to prove so many things...

just look at the life of a leader, if he talks simplicity and Imam Ali but roam around in white merc, daal mein kuch kalaa hain, aur aise bande naa taid ke layak hote hain na kisi ilhaam ke.

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Unread post by humanbeing » Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:14 am

allbird wrote:ust a question with respect to the second video, Moula is riding the green buick which was originally gifted to Syedna Taher Saiffuddin RA. How did it landed up in New Delhi ?
Its very easy, one can transport automobiles via indian railways. Muffy maula can check in his sleek car in the luggage compartment. procedure is simple and fast.


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Unread post by New » Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:13 am

Can some one explain to me what Muffy has to do with human rights? Is he the same guy on Facebook who engineered the Human Right Award?

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Unread post by think_for_yourself » Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:43 am

New wrote:Can some one explain to me what Muffy has to do with human rights? Is he the same guy on Facebook who engineered the Human Right Award?
Muffy is selling women the right to stay in a corner of their homes. He also advocates the rights of men to throw their wives out of their homes if the wives do not wear ridas. Ther is no greater advocate of human rights.

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:58 pm

The link has been removed.

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Unread post by dawedaar » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:57 pm

SBM wrote:The link has been removed.
It is still there. If u can't access the link, search for this page on facebook -> All India Council Of Human Rights, Liberties And Social Justice

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:05 pm

^
Thanks

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Unread post by allbird » Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:59 pm

humanbeing wrote:
allbird wrote:ust a question with respect to the second video, Moula is riding the green buick which was originally gifted to Syedna Taher Saiffuddin RA. How did it landed up in New Delhi ?
Its very easy, one can transport automobiles via indian railways. Muffy maula can check in his sleek car in the luggage compartment. procedure is simple and fast.
Oh ! thanks HumanB didn't guess. We were told in Waez that Aqa Moula has changed his ways and now travels simple visiting each and every village and cities by TRAIN and NOT by planes and helicopters. But if the train has special cart attached with custom made seats and toilets and a wagon behind to carry a motor vehicle then the cost estimate would be far greater than plane or copter travel. Interesting way to show simplicity. Aqa Moula must travel by second class yatri express to save Maal-e-Dawaat and not spend it on this own luxury.