Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by Aminullah » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:36 am

alivasan wrote:As recvd on whatsapp from poona khidmatguzar working for Abdeali..

Muffy is celebrating SKQ's death by throwing lavish pool side party at his lonavala bunglow. khidmatguzar said they were asked for big arrangements for pool side barbeque, exotic imported food delicacies and belly dancers.Abdeali tops invitee list including many topmost qasre ali and baite zaine sahebo.
now I wonder if this is not ayyashi what it is? :lol:

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:42 pm

Te sath bhuj ma aje ek mojizo bano. Ek bhai na ghare qadam thay em arz hati itna lag k moula mandvi si bhuj waste on the way hata tivare bhi shz sab ma arz thay lekin em farnavu ke imkan nathi. Achank moula ye bhuj airport road par farmayu ke chalo e bhai na ghare jaie. Arz kidhi k moula ye bhai haji yaha thoda pohcha nathi gaadi pachal che. To farmayu k wait kariye. 5 mnt ma ye bhai ne gadi avi ane moula ye dekhi ne foran kidhu k avi gaya ye bhai chalo. Te baad Bhuj ma Dharan Nagar ilaka ye 2 bhai na ghare qadam farmava. Ye 3 cousin bhaio che ena masi ek bhai haji pohcha nota gana pachal hata. Moula 2 bhai na gare qadam farmavi airport tashrif lai gaya. Itnama je 3ija bhai hata eni Car nu accident thayu gadi palti mari ne giri. Gadi ni halat itni kharab thay hati ke dekhnar ema j kahe k alogo bacha j nai hoy. Magar moula ni karam ni nazar ehsaan ane dua itni shitabi ehna lag pohchi k car ma bethela 5 jan sahi salamt bachi gaya, thodi iza thay lekin kai bhi major injury nathi thay. Ye bhai ni arz shz saab ma te j waqt kidhi plane haji takeoff nohtu thayu, shz saab ye kidhu moula mahez moajizo bano che... Ane moula ye dua farmavi che.

Moula to moula che... Ajab shan na mufaddal moula che. Khuda talaa aap moula ne ba salam ta qayamt baki rakhjo. Ameen.
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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by Aminullah » Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:50 pm

aa loko bachi gaya to report kidu, je loko mari jai che ehno report kon karse?

btw when 100 people do arzi, by fluke 50% of arzi jawab becomes correct and 50% goes wrong.
so those are correct abde sing loudly and those which go wrong they sweep it off under rug.
this is just like those share market analyst who shouts day and night on TV.
basically if they have given 50 tips on share.
25 will go correct and 25 will go wrong.
so they will just show those tips which went according to analyst and forget those tips which went wrong.

in financial terms this is called "game of probability"

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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by Aminullah » Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:54 pm

Aziz bhai ane moiz bhai ye mola maa shifa ni araz kidi...

Aziz bhai arzi pachi bachi gaya------------> "wah wah su mola no mozizo che"

Moiz bhai arzi pachi mari gaya -------------> " e to thai Allah ni marzi"...shhh silence

in both case "maula maula muffu maula"

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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by asad » Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:50 am

Aminullah wrote:Aziz bhai ane moiz bhai ye mola maa shifa ni araz kidi...

Aziz bhai arzi pachi bachi gaya------------> "wah wah su mola no mozizo che"

Moiz bhai arzi pachi mari gaya -------------> " e to thai Allah ni marzi"...shhh silence

in both case "maula maula muffu maula"
Doesnt the whole premise of religion work like that. if it works its by God's grace if not there must have been some hidden meaning (in bohris hikmat)

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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by Aminullah » Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:13 am

Doesnt the whole premise of religion work like that. if it works its by God's grace if not there must have been some hidden meaning (in bohris hikmat)
you missed the point bro, here in bohra world when it works its dai's grace and not Allah's grace, and when it doesnt its upto Allah.

In both case Dai remains beneficiary.

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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by Dumbledore » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:58 am

bohrabhai wrote:Te sath bhuj ma aje ek mojizo bano. Ek bhai na ghare qadam thay em arz hati itna lag k moula mandvi si bhuj waste on the way hata tivare bhi shz sab ma arz thay lekin em farnavu ke imkan nathi. Achank moula ye bhuj airport road par farmayu ke chalo e bhai na ghare jaie. Arz kidhi k moula ye bhai haji yaha thoda pohcha nathi gaadi pachal che. To farmayu k wait kariye. 5 mnt ma ye bhai ne gadi avi ane moula ye dekhi ne foran kidhu k avi gaya ye bhai chalo. Te baad Bhuj ma Dharan Nagar ilaka ye 2 bhai na ghare qadam farmava. Ye 3 cousin bhaio che ena masi ek bhai haji pohcha nota gana pachal hata. Moula 2 bhai na gare qadam farmavi airport tashrif lai gaya. Itnama je 3ija bhai hata eni Car nu accident thayu gadi palti mari ne giri. Gadi ni halat itni kharab thay hati ke dekhnar ema j kahe k alogo bacha j nai hoy. Magar moula ni karam ni nazar ehsaan ane dua itni shitabi ehna lag pohchi k car ma bethela 5 jan sahi salamt bachi gaya, thodi iza thay lekin kai bhi major injury nathi thay. Ye bhai ni arz shz saab ma te j waqt kidhi plane haji takeoff nohtu thayu, shz saab ye kidhu moula mahez moajizo bano che... Ane moula ye dua farmavi che.

Moula to moula che... Ajab shan na mufaddal moula che. Khuda talaa aap moula ne ba salam ta qayamt baki rakhjo. Ameen.
Reason for the accident of 3ja bhai was that since Muffy mola was about to levave the place of qadam of 3ija bhai...the 3ij bhai made the driver to rush the vehicle nd accident happened.

Mola mola Muffu Mola

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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by Aminullah » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:15 am

lol

SBM
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Transfer of Aamils

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:56 pm

Received via emai

Wholesale transfers of Aamils
Ashta - porbandar
Porbandr - calgary
Upleta - sironj
Sironj - minneapolis
Radhanpur - rajgarh
Rajgarh - guna
Kankroli - sami
Sami - morbi
Morbi - manchester
Aden - taheri mumbai
Taheri mum - kothar amalat
Sh Abdulmustansir - Aurangabad
Aurangabad - Khergone
Miqdad bs - nagpur
Nagpur - karachi
Karachi - qutbi mum
Qutbi mum - singapore
Singapore - secunderabad
Secunderabad - Godhra
Godhra - sydney
Zainy mum - dawoodi mum
Dawoodi mum - sanfransisco
Dawoodi muawin - melbourne
Melbourne - Hakimi ujn
Vancouver - shajapur
Shajapur - borivali
Qutbi mum muawin - hus moh indr
Hus moh indr - mohmd Moh madras
Dubai hakimi - kota
Kota - sbpt2
SBPT 2 - bhavnagar
Bhavngr - saifee nagpur
New amil - jasdan
Jasdan - baramati
Baramati - hashimi moh mum
Savarkundla - sanavad
Sanavad - Rajnandgaojn
Rajnandgaon - wakaner
Wakaner - bhiwandi
Vatva - shahda
Shahda - Amreli
Amreli - Khachrod
Khachrod - surendranagar
Surendranagar - suwasra
Ahmd muawin - kolhapur
Kolhapur - pisavada
Kurla - khambhat
Khambhat - jamali mum
Jamali mum - pune fakhri
Pune fakhri - mahlt karachi
Palghar - vashi
Vashi - zainy nasik
Saifee culctta - ibrahim ujn
Ibrahim ujn - thane
Thane - virginia usa
Virginia - pune kalimi
Dhanera - Navsari
Navsari - jhalrapatan
Jhalrapatan - khandwa
Khandwa - tanga
Tanga - Banswara
Banswara - kothar taleem
Murtaza bs moiny - jhalod
Jhalod - bangkok
Bangkok - ranala
Ranala - amalner( new)
Bagasra - bustan
Bustan - arvi
Arvi - kothar amalat
Mississauga - jetpur
Shamoil bs - ahmd
Ahmd - jamea tadrees
Murtaza bs shehabuddin - bhopal
Bhopal - marol
Fatemi mum - ratlam
Ratlam - jamea tadrees
Botad - bundi

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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by I Rizwan » Wed Apr 13, 2016 12:53 am

I wish there was a way to add up Mufaddal saifuddin name into this list. how we can do that?

http://theconfusedindian.in/8-most-cont ... -of-india/

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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by alivasan » Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:54 am

Re mass transfer of amils, any idea where is shk mustufa who was amil of pune fakhri in 2007 now.?.shk mustufa was moved to africa madagascar shortly after 2007

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:21 am

Forwarded as received
Muffaddal mola to muffadal mola j che. Ajab Shaan na Dai che. Mola amne 1 kharas ane 1 mithaas jaman MA mukavano Farman ape che ane 1 thaal MA 8 jana besvanu pan Farman ape che. Ane koi na mane to saja pan kare che jem ke dahod na Ek bhai ne saja Kari ke jemne jaman MA 2 kharas ane mithaas muki. Ava Ajab Shaan na Dai nu thaal jevo ema padeli items juvo ane besela logo count karo.
Kharekhar muffadal mola to muffadal mola j che. Ane ajab Shaan na Dai che.
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Unread post by I Rizwan » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:34 am

bohrabhai wrote:Forwarded as received
Muffaddal mola to muffadal mola j che. Ajab Shaan na Dai che. Mola amne 1 kharas ane 1 mithaas jaman MA mukavano Farman ape che ane 1 thaal MA 8 jana besvanu pan Farman ape che. Ane koi na mane to saja pan kare che jem ke dahod na Ek bhai ne saja Kari ke jemne jaman MA 2 kharas ane mithaas muki. Ava Ajab Shaan na Dai nu thaal jevo ema padeli items juvo ane besela logo count karo.
Kharekhar muffadal mola to muffadal mola j che. Ane ajab Shaan na Dai che.
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open hypocrisy, We hope people will wake up.

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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:23 am

Dai has farishtas sitting with him and the items on the thaal are maidat from heaven.

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CHOR FEEDING CHOR

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Unread post by SBM » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:26 pm

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Unread post by I Rizwan » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:39 pm

je bacchao naa khaba par muki ne banduk fode e marde momeen naa kehwai. true fateh mubeen would be open and clear invitation to STF to come for debate and make it live in all world wide masjid.

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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by abde53 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:40 pm

Bhai SBM
such shameful when Moula Burhanuddin was sick and in bed and very old they used him on the palkhi and paraded him to collect money doing same thing like cutting cake to celebrate his salgirah and Moula Burhanuddin did not know what is going on,
Now they have a very young child who has no idea what is going on and he is doing whatever they tell him just like they did with Moula Burhanuddin. :( :x :cry: :cry:
They are not afraid of Jahannam ni Aag and what Hasher is waiting for them.

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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:37 am

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:53 pm

^
it clearly proved that SMS is the biggest hypocrite of all time and what does Quran says about Hypocrites :twisted: :evil:

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Unread post by I Rizwan » Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:10 pm

kimanumanu wrote:
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he says,

shaitaan jhagda karawe che bha bhai naa darmiyaan, bawa dikraa naa darmiyaan, and we all know these days these jhagdas are just because of mufaddal saifuddin, good to know he is admitting he his playing shaitan role.

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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by alivasan » Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:19 pm

I have not given lakab of 'saitanuddin' to muffadal just like that..apt for hypocrite like him..being leader he will have to take blame even single person who reports to him is hypocrite . ..and here is full ocean of hypocrisy rot..come on..give me a break..!!!!..this is 21st century..minutest of your act does not escape watchdogs..

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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:52 pm

SBM wrote:^
it clearly proved that SMS is the biggest hypocrite of all time and what does Quran says about Hypocrites :twisted: :evil:
It is important for every Muslim to know that Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran warned us from the Muslim hypocrites. Not everyone who claims to be a Muslim is one. Muslims must stay away from the Muslim hypocrites and never listen to them:

"O Prophet! Fear God, and hearken not to the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites: verily God is full of Knowledge and Wisdom. (The Noble Quran, 33:1)"

The punishment of the hypocrites in Hell:

"The Hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of the Fire: no helper wilt thou find for them; (The Noble Quran, 4:145)"

"To the Hypocrites give the glad tidings that there is for them (but) a grievous penalty; (The Noble Quran, 4:138)"

"O Prophet! strive hard against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed. (The Noble Quran, 9:73)"

"And that He may punish the Hypocrites, men and women, and the Polytheists men and women, who imagine an evil opinion of God. On them is a round of Evil: the Wrath of God is on them: He has cursed them and got Hell ready for them: and evil is it for a destination. (The Noble Quran, 48:6)"


"One Day will the Hypocrites- men and women - say to the Believers: "Wait for us! Let us borrow (a Light) from your Light!" It will be said: "Turn ye back to your rear! then seek a Light (where ye can)!" So a wall will be put up betwixt them, with a gate therein. Within it will be Mercy throughout, and without it, all alongside, will be (Wrath and) Punishment! (The Noble Quran, 57:13)"

According to the Noble Verses above, the hypocrites from among the Muslims will receive the most painful punishment in Hell.

Many Muslims today care about their worldly pleasure. They spend too much money in non-Islamic things and they have complete disregard to the poor. Plus they are very materialistic and buy too expensive (to their own budget) things. They are complete show-offs, who like "to be seen of men (4:142)" and "Those who (want but) To be seen (of men) (107:6)".

"So woe to the worshipers Who are neglectful Of their Prayers, Those who (want but) To be seen (of men), But refuse (to supply) (Even) neighbourly needs. (The Noble Quran, 107:4-7)"

"The Hypocrites, men and women, (have an understanding) with each other: They enjoin evil, and forbid what is just, and are close with their hands. They have forgotten God; so He hath forgotten them. Verily the Hypocrites are rebellious and perverse. (The Noble Quran, 9:67)"

Like Allah Almighty said in the Noble Verse, they enjoin evil and forbid what is just. Some of those people pray and some of their women even cover up their hairs in public. Don't be fooled by them. They are still hypocrites no matter how many times they pray. They are liars and complete show-offs, who like "to be seen of men (4:142)" and "Those who (want but) To be seen (of men) (107:6)".


The hypocrites ally themselves with the enemy against the Muslims:

"Hast thou not observed the Hypocrites say to their misbelieving brethren among the People of the Book? - "If ye are expelled, we too will go out with you, and we will never hearken to any one in your affair; and if ye are attacked (in fight) we will help you". But God is witness that they are indeed liars. (The Noble Quran, 59:11)"

"Yea, to those who take for friends unbelievers rather than believers: is it honour they seek among them? Nay,- all honour is with God. (The Noble Quran, 4:139)"

"Already has He sent you Word in the Book, that when ye hear the signs of God held in defiance and ridicule, ye are not to sit with them unless they turn to a different theme: if ye did, ye would be like them. For God will collect the hypocrites and those who defy faith - all in Hell:- (The Noble Quran, 4:140)"


Muslims are commanded to stay away from vain talkers:

"When thou seest men engaged in vain discourse about Our signs, turn away from them unless they turn to a different theme. If Satan ever makes thee forget, then after recollection, sit not thou in the company of those who do wrong. (The Noble Quran, 6:68)"

"Who avoid vain talk; (The Noble Quran, 23:3)"

"And when they hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: 'To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant.' (The Noble Quran, 28:55)"

"So leave them to plunge in vain talk and play about, until they encounter that Day of theirs which they have been promised!- (The Noble Quran, 70:42)"

"(The sinners will say:) 'But we used to talk vanities with vain talkers;' (The Noble Quran, 74:45)"

According to the Noble Verses above, any vain talk or foul language are prohibited. Muslims must always stay away from vain talkers. Those who participate with them will be from among them, and will face a great punishment.

Allah Almighty has no tolerance for corruption which includes sinning and hypocrisy in Islam:


"Behold, ye are those Invited to spend (Of your substance) In the Way of Allah: But among you are some That are niggardly. But any Who are niggardly are so At the expense of Their own souls. But Allah is free Of all wants, And it is ye that are needy. If ye turn back (From the Path), He will Substitute in your stead Another people; then they Would not be like you! (The Noble Quran, 47:38)"

As long as the Muslims tolerate dictatorships (like Muffy) and hypocritical life in their countries (or Bohra Dawat), Allah Almighty will never be satisfied with us, and He might ultimately substitute us with other better nations who are more straight forward and sincere.

As long as we Muslims don't change ourselves, and insist on being hypocrites, then Allah Almighty will never help to change us:


"Because God will never change the grace which He hath bestowed on a people until they change what is in their (own) souls: and verily God is He Who heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:53)"

This is Islam that I truly love and adore. It is the complete System of GOD Almighty that has the answers for everything and every issue and every problem that people face:

"This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear God; (The Noble Quran, 2:2)"

http://www.answering-christianity.com/m ... crites.htm

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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:17 pm

alivasan wrote:I have not given lakab of 'saitanuddin' to muffadal just like that..apt for hypocrite like him..being leader he will have to take blame even single person who reports to him is hypocrite . ..and here is full ocean of hypocrisy rot..come on..give me a break..!!!!..this is 21st century..minutest of your act does not escape watchdogs..
Who is a Hypocrite?

A Hypocrite is a person who passes himself off as a believer although he does not truly have faith. In this respect, Hypocrisy is a forgery of faith.

A hypocrites direction is determined by wind, whatever side the wind blows violently, he turns himself into that direction. A motive of self-interest prevails over his conception of religion and faith.

In respect of doing harm, a hypocrite is like a tiny white stone in a rice sack.

There are mainly two reasons that lead men into hypocrisy:
1- To make use of the benefits of Islam.
2- To attempt to spread mischief among the Muslims.

Since hypocrites constitute a minor group within the Muslim community, they try to make themselves unnoticed by saying We are Muslims too, or pretending to be Muslims, they spy on them, give information to particular places and thus weakening them unnoticed.

There are many verses in the Quran about hypocrites. Doubtlessly, that is not for nothing. Because when the enemy is not known, he does more harm. He is more dangerous while lying in ambush.

The hypocrites in big cities are the ones who are obstinate in hypocricy and are quite unreliable. They know how to dissemble themselves. They are used to come up the water like oil. If there is no revelation, even the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) cannot know them.

http://www.questionsonislam.com/article ... hypocrites

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Unread post by AgnosticIndian » Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:30 am

This "hypocrisy" thing is also used by Dai to stoop role from reading any contrary material.

Anyone who questions is branded Munafiq, hypocrite.

Nothing should be beyond critic, critical analysis. Radicalism has meant that any kind of questioning has been smothered by violence.

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Unread post by alivasan » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:31 am

The definition of a hypocrite in Islam:
A hypocrite in Islam is one who saw Islam; accepted its principles; embraced it; went along with it, but when his life style and preferences were challenged, Islam had failed with him. He knowingly wouldn't follow Islam because it would violate a certain life style that he adopted, ego, or standard that is too important to him, even though it directly violates Islam.
The difference between a hypocrite and a normal Muslim who sins, is that a hypocriteadoptsan unacceptable life style and actions, and insists on following it, while a normal Muslim knows that he is wrong,tries to resist doing sins, but unfortunately sometimes, he still falls into sinning due to immaturity or physical weaknesses

Moula Ali (as) practised what he preached, living simple life as per basic needs only dedicated to 'ALLAH's wishes' and only 'ALLAH's wish'. Islam means staying hungry and feeding needy and poor doing charity, islam means sacrifice all material comforts in duniya, to the state of renunciation, islam means respect of thoughts of fellow brothers..

There's lot to sacrifice when one submit's to wish of Allah.

Not only community members know that muffadal is living yazidi life style but entire muslim ummah is in cognizance to it.have come across hujjat they say that Moula Ali lived simple life as per needs only so that imams and dai's to come will live comfortable happily..there is big difference between need,comfort,luxury and extravaganza.on the contarary Muffadal in garb of power and lust for money is seen to cross all limits set by Allah's rules and lives like a king or sultan.he can'nt bear harsh conditions set out in book of Allah..holy 'Quran'. He is thus hypocrite.

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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by alivasan » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:54 am

If the current Muslim nations are too corrupt, then Allah Almighty will substitute them with better ones:
Allah Almighty has no tolerance for corruption which includes sinning and hypocrisy in Islam:
"Behold, ye are those Invited to spend (Of your substance) In the Way of Allah: But among you are some That are niggardly. But any Who are niggardly are so At the expense of Their own souls. But Allah is free Of all wants, And it is ye that are needy.If ye turn back (From the Path), He will Substitute in your stead Another people; then they Would not be like you!(The Noble Quran, 47:38)"
As long as the Muslims tolerate dictatorships and hypocritical life in their countries, Allah Almighty will never be satisfied with us, and He might ultimately substitute us with other better nations who are more straight forward and sincere

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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by AgnosticIndian » Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:07 am

Everyone interprets Quran as per their agenda, benefit. Everyone calls the other a hypocrite and both sides use Quranic verses to justify the same.

ISIS calls others apostates, hypocrites & kills them and cites Quranic verses for it.

The argument goes in circles when one considers a text as absolute and doesn't move with time or in the absence of that, show any flexibility.

So the certification of hypocrites, apostates etc will continue and people will keep suffering

JC
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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by JC » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:15 pm

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Whenever power is concentrated these things are bound to happen. If there are concepts and accountability and transparency present and working in any group, society, community or country, people will tend to be sober and serious.

Quran or any other book or for that matter any law or policy or procedure can have more than one interpretations but we should be able to discuss that. The criteria should be 'what suits the human beings most? How can the lives be improved?' because no book or law has been made for another purpose(s), if it has been, it is no book and no law.

qjbj
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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by qjbj » Sat Apr 23, 2016 1:08 pm

Another money collecting scheme has started. Its called Taher Scheme Qaradan Hassana. Received email today to make contribution. Any which way to get more money from the people.
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Qadir
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Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

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Unread post by Qadir » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:36 am

At last will be able to do deedar of my moula Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin.
There is a procession and i will be able to do deedar from my own balcony.
Very exited and feeling blessed.
Burn in hell TF.
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