Bohra Ramzan 2017 And Related Topics

[gulam_parinda]

May be it's little bit early to start this thread but kothaar has started looting before Ramzan...May be they are also in cash crunch due to demonetization ....and one Bohra with brain posted this on FB

Link to Posts - https://www.facebook.com/groups/5580746 ... 554186992/
-> https://www.facebook.com/groups/5580746 ... 514191796/

Nizam of vajebat bethak
1) 6 pm arrival in masjid talaki safar najwas
2) mojri saraf najwas
3) majmuohi ziyafat 20 family with 12 cards each 5 to 50 lakhs
4 ) shabab / tolobah ziyafat. 3 to 7 Lacs
5 ) women's wings ziyafat 3 to 7 Lacs
6) individuals vajebat more then 10 lacs jame Anwar blocks 30 to 50 muminine
7) vajebat below 5 Lacs 50 muminine jame juyushi
vajebat below 2 lack 50 muminine jame Lulu block
9 ) vajebat. Below 1 lac 100 muminine sijilmasa block
10) vajebat below 50000 200 muminine urfuh dick block
11) vajebat below 5000 500 muminine
12) ziyafat at muminine home after namaz 5 to 10 Cr
1 hour vajebat bethak around 4 to 5000 muminine saraf

[objectiveobserver53]

Regarding pictures above, particularly the last one:

Only Bohras (read people with a total lack of self respect) will allow themselves to be herded into pens like cattle so that they can GIVE all their money to a seventh grade dropout!!

[think]

100% agreed. These ghettas , may Allah give them the inspiration .

[allbird]

Why is Ramadan a month of Rehamah becomes a month of fear and stress for Bohras ?

[objectiveobserver53]

Why is Ramadan a month of Rehamah becomes a month of fear and stress for Bohras ?

Not for ALL Bohras. Only for Mufaddali Bohras

[allbird]

Why is Ramadan a month of Rehamah becomes a month of fear and stress for Bohras ?

Not for ALL Bohras. Only for Mufaddali Bohras

So Qutbi Bohras are much happier and stress free .....Maybe for now since they don't have numbers. But wait and watch few generations down they will stress, sweat and crap too. Only matter of time. Currently they are struggling for survival that's why are speaking the words pleasant to their ears. Soon they will rants and yells like SMS. After all same family same bloodline.

[Shk Mohammed Yamani]

Ramadan Mubarak to all
D M Y.

[objectiveobserver53]

Not for ALL Bohras. Only for Mufaddali Bohras

So Qutbi Bohras are much happier and stress free .....Maybe for now since they don't have numbers. But wait and watch few generations down they will stress, sweat and crap too. Only matter of time. Currently they are struggling for survival that's why are speaking the words pleasant to their ears. Soon they will rants and yells like SMS. After all same family same bloodline.

Would you not drink good milk today because it MAY go bad five days from now?

[allbird]

So Qutbi Bohras are much happier and stress free .....Maybe for now since they don't have numbers. But wait and watch few generations down they will stress, sweat and crap too. Only matter of time. Currently they are struggling for survival that's why are speaking the words pleasant to their ears. Soon they will rants and yells like SMS. After all same family same bloodline.

Would you not drink good milk today because it MAY go bad five days from now?

Sorry Bro bad analogy. Dawoodi Bohra community is not a perishable product. There are here till "Ta Qayamat" Depends you want short term benefits or long term. You using them and they are using you but the Milk will go sour outside or inside your choice. sorry i am lactose intolerant.

[bohrabhai]

Vapi video. Good news is that people are standing up for injustice and events are recorded for future.

[objectiveobserver53]

Would you not drink good milk today because it MAY go bad five days from now?

Sorry Bro bad analogy. Dawoodi Bohra community is not a perishable product. There are here till "Ta Qayamat" Depends you want short term benefits or long term. You using them and they are using you but the Milk will go sour outside or inside your choice. sorry i am lactose intolerant.

I am not lactose intolerant so if I drink the milk, it nourishes me whereas those who don't, have just wasted it. Those who are part of FD see it as their responsibility to ensure that mistakes from the past are not repeated. To not be a part of a groundswell movement, to not benefit from sound, wise, well-intentioned counsel of really smart and truly spiritual people simply because of their ancestry, is not my style. I do not judge a book by it's cover. Regardless, it does not sound like you want to be convinced, so agree to disagree.

[allbird]

Bohra masjid has becomes a circus during Sherullah and Moharaam. The shaikhs and mullah's sit in front row, they push people and squeeze push to get in front rows. Why such idiotic behavior does the Aqa Moula doesn't teach them some manners and humanity ?

[ajamali]

Bohra masjid has becomes a circus during Sherullah and Moharaam. The shaikhs and mullah's sit in front row, they push people and squeeze push to get in front rows. Why such idiotic behavior does the Aqa Moula doesn't teach them some manners and humanity ?

You are asking one who has no manners himself, to teach others, who probably overall have better manner than him!

[allbird]

Bohra masjid has becomes a circus during Sherullah and Moharaam. The shaikhs and mullah's sit in front row, they push people and squeeze push to get in front rows. Why such idiotic behavior does the Aqa Moula doesn't teach them some manners and humanity ?

You are asking one who has no manners himself, to teach others, who probably overall have better manner than him!

Dear ajamali, When i asked this same question face to face with one of the Shaikhs. His reply was " Aqa Moula ye haame Saaf maa agal charaya che " and his attitude was very disturbing. The only thing i was thinking while speaking to him "Ya Allah was this your original plan when you revealed Quran to Rasullahah SAW to choose between people who is better than the other. Pray lanaats on brothers, sisters and mothers just because their ideas are different and don't agree with each other on all fronts. On only Allah Tahala command Rasullaha prayed lanaat on this uncle Abu- lahab since it was hard coded in Quran to do so. In conclusion is Aqa Moula more important and powerful then Mohammad Rasullaha SAW Nauzobillah ? Do this people PRACTICE WHAT THEY PREACH.

[allbird]

it nourishes me whereas those who don't, have just wasted it.

I know i am lactose intolerant SO I DON'T BUY IT there is NO question of wastage.

[think]

I think mumineen are getting to know the kothar and the goons better than ever due to the flow of information.
In todays times when some one says he is a shaikh, the curt reply is "what kind of a shake are you, a chocolate shake or vanilla shake.

[gulam_parinda]

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 दाहोद  ( दबंग समाचार ) माहे रमजान रहमतो का महिना हे  यह माह इबादतो का हे माफी का महिना हे । किन्तु माहे रमजान  आते ही कुवैत मे दाऊदी बोहरा समाज को यह माह जुल्मो सितम का लगने लगता हे । कुवैत मे बोहरा समाज के हजारो लोग कुवैत की जमात की तानाशाही के शिकार होकर अपनी किस्मत पर खुन के आंसु रो रहे हे । हमारे दबंग समाचार के कार्यालय पर ऐसे अनेक फोन आ रहे हे कि वे किस तरह कुवैत की हिटलर शाही जमात एवं आमिलो के जुल्म के शिकार हो रहे हे वहा की जुल्मी जमात एवं हिटलर आमिलो की करतुतो एवं  उनके हिटलर शाही फरमान से त्राहिमाम हो रहे हे । बताते हे की वहा की मस्जिद  ( मरकज) मे नमाज वही पढने आ सकते हे जिन्होंने ने नमाज पढ़ने के लिए वहा पर जगह खरीदी हो  , जगह भी वही खरीद सकता हे जो  जो पुरे माह जमन मे सःशुल्क शामिल हो जमन मे वही शामिल हो सकता हे जो वहा बन रही स्कूल मे मुह मांगी राशी दान करता हे एवं वहा की भारी-भरकम सबिल व भारी-भरकम इकराम फंड जो देता हो अन्यथा वह खुदा का दिया तोहफा" नमाज "मरकज मे अदा नही कर सकते । स्मरण रहे कुवैत मे बाहरी व्यक्तियो को जमीन खरीदने का अधिकार नही हे  ओर ना ही वह जमीन या भवन अपने नाम करवा सकते हे  फिर भी कुवैत की जमात वहा पर बडी आलीशान स्कुल वह भी बोहरा समाज के लोगो की मेहनत पसीने की कमाई से  जबरन वसुल कर बना रहे हे । सोचने वाली बात यह हे की कुवैत मे  दाऊदी बोहरा समाज के कितने पढने वाले बच्चे हे अधिकांश बोहरा परिवार तो अपने वतन मे रह कर अपने वतन मे ही पढाई व परवरिश करते हे फिर क्यो वहा की जमात दाऊदी बोहरा समाज पर अत्याचार कर जबरन विभिन्न प्रकार की वसूली कर रही हे  जमात  एवं आमिल द्वारा मांगी गई रकम नही देने पर व जमन मे शामिल नही होने तथा स्कुल मे मनमानी राशी दान नही करने पर उनको समाज से बेदखल करने की धमकी देते हे वे कुवैत से भारत या अन्य जगह तभी जा सकते हे जब उनके द्वारा मांगी गई रकम  , चन्दा , इकराम  ओर अन्य तरह की लागत अदा करे अन्यथा गुलामो के शहर मे गुलामो के गुलाम बन कर रहने को मजबूर हे हम नही कहते की वहा की जमात पैसा न ले वे जरूर ले किन्तु व्यवहारिक ले हम जानते हे कि  वहा की  आय इन्ही बोहरा मजदुरो के पसीने की कमाई से शाही ठाठ-बाट से जिवन यापन कर रहे हे आमिल  अपने आप को आलिम कहते हे किन्तु कार्य जालिमो जैसे कर रहे हे जो व्यक्ति नमाज के लिए जगह खरीदे ओर नमाज पढे नमाज पढने से रोकने का कार्य तो शैतान का हे ओर यह कार्य वहा की जमात व आमिल कर रहे हे शर्म की बात है  ??? अगर कोई परिवार जमात के अनुसार सबील और नए स्कूल बनने की राशि देने में असमर्थ है तो उनको मरकज़ में नमाज़ पढ़ने की इजाजत नहीं है वो परिवार घर में ही नमाज पढ़ते है ।
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[think]

how about a translation in the international language of english

[Yasunaju]

I stay in Nallasopara, near Mumbai. Here JAMAT COMMITTEE litterally force ppl to pay as per their toungue's demand to get MASJID ENTRY PASS & NIYAZ CARD. Demanded Amounts are in thousands of Rupees, e.g. 25000/-, 20000/- etc per annum. Previous all collection heads, like SABIL, HOOB etc are cancelled now. Now new pattern introduced, tittled TAKHMEEN RAQAM, A lumpsum amount which is thrice or four times what mumins used to pay previously under different heads. Almost Half bohra population is away from mosque due to such DADAGIRI. Aamil & JAMAT COMMITTEE MEMBERS insults almost every mumin who approach them for RAMAZAN masallah place & niyaz card.

[kimanumanu]

I stay in Nallasopara, near Mumbai. Here JAMAT COMMITTEE litterally force ppl to pay as per their toungue's demand to get MASJID ENTRY PASS & NIYAZ CARD. Demanded Amounts are in thousands of Rupees, e.g. 25000/-, 20000/- etc per annum. Previous all collection heads, like SABIL, HOOB etc are cancelled now. Now new pattern introduced, tittled TAKHMEEN RAQAM, A lumpsum amount which is thrice or four times what mumins used to pay previously under different heads. Almost Half bohra population is away from mosque due to such DADAGIRI. Aamil & JAMAT COMMITTEE MEMBERS insults almost every mumin who approach them for RAMAZAN masallah place & niyaz card.

Pray at home. Don't pay them any money.

[think]

Better still, you and your friends and family gather at each others place for namaz and iftari. Food being contributed by all the friends and family. you will be more happy.When The Rasool first started preaching, people gave him a hard time , so he and a few of his believers used to pray at each others homes.

[Yasunaju]

Yes right, we left mosque visit since many years. We attend only Aashura evening bayan, MAQTAL. We are not interested at all in niyaz jamans. Here what I wrote was just with intention to let open eyed bohras know about NALLASOPARA JAMAT'S corrupt practices & harrasement caused to common mumeens.

[think]

very good. If there is any consolation, you are not alone. Many like mnided mumineen realizing that this is a business in the form of religion are also doing the same. when like minded mumineen in some areas of the world got bigger, they opened their own worshipping places andhsome also have their own sub division with a big hall, and moallim to teach their children Arabic , and other activities for the young and old. Hope Nagaspara one day will also be as big as some of the communities that have gone on their own and prospered by meets and bounds.

[gulam_parinda]

Watching india vs pakistaan match in maszid.

[think]

is this not ample proof that dawoodi bohrism is not a religion but a private club. Here one can see that in the pretext of a religious gathering ,cricket is being enjoyed on t.v.

[LFT]

While I am not a bohra apologist by any stretch; I think criticism needs to responsible and reasonable. Don't see anything wrong with cricket match on a screen while people are eating. Considering its Ramadhan, it was most likely after prayers. While person watching TV on masalla could arguably in the wrong, it was their personal decision. Unless you think that watching cricket is unislamic, I dont see the logic behind this criticism.

[SBM]

anything wrong with cricket match on a screen while people are eating

In that case they were NOT following Maula's farman who says to eat with TAMMAKKUN Tammakkun is missing here..

[Moiz_Dhaanu]

I wonder if after each of the 9 moharram waaz, DMBS Abdes would do the same (watch cricket in muwaid while having food)
But none the less a picture is worth a thousand words:
Those with more "Duniya" and less "Deen" in their actions, are more then happy to be with DMBS camp

DMBS:Dawedaar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb

[allbird]

Watching india vs pakistaan match in maszid.

I personally do no find anything wrong with this pictures. Funny Yes , Wrong no. Allah Tahala has no where said to prevent yourselves from watching sporting events. I have seen worst in Sunni Masajids imam's who is conducting Salah is answering sms replies during Prayers.

[think]

And you think it is o.k. to answer your mobile phone while you are in the presence of your creator imploring him to save your soul.