HH Syedna Saheb in Nairobi

[mbohra]

We've just heard that Aqa Syedna Saheb has been unwell in Nairobi, Kenya, since last Thursday.

If this is true, let's pray that may Almighty God keep him well and grant him long life....Amen

[S. Insaf]

He should be immediately brought to Bombay and treated in Mubarak Saifee Hospital, which is claimed to be the most modern and well-equiped hospital in Asia and also has his great father's mubarak name with it.

[moomin052]

mr insaaf we do not need your sarcasm and stupid wit for our moulas tus health ,our moula is well and healthy its you who is burning with envy

[Fruits]

HH Syedna Saheb is in good health & is in London at this moment.This is to inform to all the so called ADVISERS who were in the forefront suggesting the names of the probable mediacal centres.

[heavenoheaven]

fully agree with moomin052.

wsalam.
way2heaven

[heavenoheaven]

firmly agree with fruits..Parvardigar apna Moula ni umr qayamat tak daraz ne daraz kare. Aamin

way2heaven

[S. Insaf]

Sorry friends! It was not me but mbohra who reported that "We've just heard that Aqa Syedna Saheb has been unwell in Nairobi, Kenya, since last Thursday.
If this is true, let's pray that may Almighty God keep him well and grant him long life....Amen"
Because I also that may Almighty God keep him well and grant him long life I suggested that he should brought to Bombay immediately.
Who could be more happy if is in good health.

[moomin052]

insaaf why dont you make up your mind wether you are with our moula(tus) or not because in some topics you insult him and here you are calling him syedna saheb and wishing him a long lifeand praying for him.this are all hallmarks of iblis shaitan,and by the way our moula tus does not need your prayers at all

[Fruits]

Mr. Insaaf i agree with moomin. On one hand you keep on abusing n criticising the Syedna Saheb on now your ready to pray for the Long life of Syedna. This is really strange for a person like you who has been among the front runners in criticing the SYEDNA SAHEB n who had gone miles by posting a topic under the title"preparation for the 53rd Dai". This is really strange. So mr. insaaf plz rwmain in your court n no need for ur wishes

[jazz]

AsalamWalaikum

Why does the royal family move Maula from one country to another. Can't they let Maula rest for some time in India. We all know that Maula's visits to different countries is also a way for the royal family to have holidays and make huge amounts of money. With ziafats going at $50,000 upwards to $250,000 like in E Africa, this is the way for paying for the huge expense accounts of the royals.
Salaam.

[Muslim First]

Qoute from mumineen.org:-
http://akhbar.mumineen.org/1426/shaban_12-2.html

Mumineen of Nairobi are also shukr guzaar that daily shehzada sahebo (DM) are performing quduum mubarak in mumineen homes and business premises, right into the late hours of the night. Shabaab-ul-Eid-iz-Zahabi of Nairobi are benevolently organizing and carrying out this important khidmat.

Shehzada sahebo must have good time looting Mumins of Nairobi.

Do Bohras belive that by performance of quduum mubarak their houses and businesses become blessed?

Wasalaam
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[moomin052]

our moula travels at that age because of us mumineen who are not able to see him and get deedar sharaf, tamne su jale che. if shazada sahebs come to our house it is a big honour for us ,you shaitans will never understand this why you are alive and whenyou do it will be too late cause you will be burning you know where

[Muslim First]

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Br.Moomin052 and other 99 names
AS
You said;

if shazada sahebs come to our house it is a big honour for us

If I may ask you "what is going rate to bring so called Shehzada Saheb to your house in USA?"

Wasalaam
Shaitan
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[anajmi]

Do you know what the oldest profession in the world is - yeah prostitution, that is what the profession of these shehzadas is!! You pay them to come to your house and kiss their ass. If you pay them enough they will even strip and dance for you!!

[moomin052]

its none of your bussiness what happens in our house or with our money

[Muslim First]

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Dear Br.Momin052
AS
You said " its none of your bussiness what happens in our house or with our money "

In a way you are right. What you do is your business. Islam requires you to be socially responsible and spend your money wisely. Allah will not forgive people who are arrogant or show offs. Just read these story about a Muslim Girl who hangs herself over one rupee for a meal.That is 2.3 cents for her school lunch money.

I am sure every Bohra family has known somebody like Sonia Khatun who need money more then Ali Baba (Maulana) and his bend of thives (his sons and chamchas).

I would love to see you produce one Aya from the Quran or one Hadith showing that it is virtues to do deedar of your Maulana or Kadam Mubark of maulana or his sons. What Bohras are doing is nothing but unadulterated Biddah.

As far as Showing off is concerned Prophet SAW said;

I guarantee a home within the boundaries of Paradise for one who gives up showing off, even if he is worthy; a home in the middle of Paradise for one who gives up lying; even in fun; and a home in the heights of Paradixe for one whose conduct is best. (Related by Abu Dawud)

The dearest and closest to me on the Day of Judgement will be those of you who are best behaved. And the most disliked by and farthest from me will be those of you who are pompous, boastful and arrogant. (related by At-Thrmidhi)

Wasalaam
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[heavenoheaven]

salam Muslim first,
good preaching of islam...nice quotes as well. may allah help us all.

w.salam.
way2heaven

[moomin052]

islam also preaches a lot of other things,one of which is respect for elders and we consider our moula and his sons our elders and give them the due respect,unlike your fellow mates who abuse our moula at every chance.why dont you preach to them first

[mbohra]

There has been no news of our Aqua Moula since September 19, 2005 - i.e. after he arrived in London. Malumaat.org and Mumineen.net have also been unusually quiet. Is He going to spend Ramadhan in London?

[Muslim First]

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Dear Br. Moomin052
AS

On the outset I am not a Bohra, I am a MUSLIM and follow Quran and Sunnah of Prophet SAW. I have many close Bohra friends who are like you and follow Hindu tradition of standing in front of Gods and their Gurusn with folded hands and kiss their feet. Just like you kiss feet of your Maula. Let me tell you frankly that Kadambosi and bowing is not permitted in Islam.

Islam teaches respect for elders and scholars but no believing Muslim will stoop down to kiss feet. I have seen older Bohra Bow and stoop down to kiss hands of a young kid who happened to belong to so called "Royal" family.

It is alright to invite family of your Maula to your house but to think that your house will become 'Mubark' due to presence of their 'Kadam'
shows that you Bohras have long way to go before you discover true Islam as taught in Qur'an and by Rasul SAW.

Wasalaam
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[moomin052]

dear muslim it is all a matter of belief you believe what you want to believe and i also do the same but do abuse somebody elses belief just because you do not understand it.there are many things in thai world which are not understandable and faith is one of them

[orp]

Dear moomenin52

That is exactly the sunni brothers says that do not abuse their khalifa. It is their belief.
I think this is the reason sayedna has apologies in public when he abused the khalifa, and riot has spread in Mumbai.

[kabeer19922001]

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"dear muslim it is all a matter of belief you believe what you want to believe and i also do the same but do abuse somebody elses belief just because you do not understand it.there are many things in thai world which are not understandable and faith is one of them "

How true.!!!!I was a Bohri for 40 years and did not understand anything about the Bohra faith and rituals. I don't think Bohra faith is up for understanding. It only demands blind faith.

Regards

[mbohra]

There has been no news of our Aqua Moula since September 19, 2005 - i.e. after he arrived in London from Malumaat.org and Mumineen.org.- even how and what he is doing during the Holy Month of Ramadhan.

I am sorry, but the unofficial news we get from London that he appears to be not that well.

I do not understand these Kotharis and their sycophantic followers. When Aqua Moula is in good health, they all pray for his long life. But when he appears to be sick, (when he goes to Germany for medical check up or come to USA for medical attention and now in Nairobi as well as in London) they appear to cover up and keep a deafening silence - especially in this Holy Month of Ramadhan, when they hould be transparent to the community and praying for his good health and long life.

Let us pray in this Holy Month for His good health and long life.....Amen. And don't forget He is the Progressive's Dai as well - regardless of our "political/policy" disagreements or dispute.

[tahir]

Porbably succession wars are going hot....they wont disclose any "news" unless they have settled for the 53rd dai....given the large number of contenders there is high probability that bohras may further split into several subsects headed by different dais.....for now I can imagine a territorial distribution on the basis of bohri population, revenue size and number of mazaars and other immovable property under control....roughly the future seats of dawats will be somewhat like this:

Dai 53rd a - mumbai
53rd b - ahmedabad
53rd c - chennai/colombo
53rd d - kuala lampur
53rd e - mombasa
53rd f - london
53rd g - new jersy
53rd h - fremont city
53rd i - dubai
53rd j - kuwait
53rd k - sydney
(I wonder if there are bohris in South America)

If this property distribution doesnt go smoothly and if the strongest contender refuses to split the fortunes,the chances are that a couple of them might get killed in fratricidal wars.

PS: I hope the dai is well

[tahir]

It further occured to me that once divided, the various subsects will have distinct middle names like DQ Bohras (dawoodi quaidi), DM Bohras (dawoodi mustafai) etc. Also they will be required to wear the sectorial identification on the qaumi libaas....or probably distinct topis with the emblem of each dai. But may be this will not suffice to keep strict segregation. In all probability they will be branded by an indelible tatoo on the arms so that a DM bohra cannot enter the mazaar of DQ bohras, nor can he be invited for any jamans.

At this point, doctoring of history cannot be ruled out. For example, the dai "53rd a" of mumbai may proclaim that there was only one true dai in the history of dawat and that was the 51st dai taher saifuddin (in case the 52nd is not burried in mumbai). All the other dais never had valid nass. He may also proclaim laanats on the other past dais (one to fifty) during waaz. This way he will make sure that his followers do not visit other territories for ziyarat, which may "currupt" their belives and dilute their allegiance. Besides, this will prevent them "wasting" money on the gullaks and musafirkhanas of other territories which otherwise can be spent in their own satrap. So we will have a situation where every dai in the history will be worhipped by only the subsect in whose territory his mausoleum is located while he would be cursed by all others.

In case the division happens after bloody fratricidal wars, the future dais will be left with dead bodies of Shezadas to divide. These corpses would be given to the dais who get less lucrative territories so that they can build the respective mausoleums to compensate themselves with some revenue. I can see some new mausoleums coming up in North America and Europe. However, the most prized possesion would be the body of the current dai. In case the dai "53rd a" fails to retain it in mumbai, the corpse has the potential to make the second most lucrative mausoleum after roza tahera. One can expect to build its roza in siberia and attract a bohra township of over 10000.

Anyway, lets hope that the dai is alright and nothing of this sort happens.

[SBM]

Dear MBOHRA and Others
here is the posting from Maalumat regarding the hint of Sydena' health. Let us hope he recovers soon and have a good health
Friday, October 07, 2005

Shehrullah Ibadat by the Dawoodi Bohras in Kolkata

The Mumineen of Kolkata with the raza mubarak of Amil Saheb Janab Yunus bhaisaheb gathered in Saifee Masjid and all 9 centers, where Sehrullah namaz is being prayed , Friday, October 07, 2005
Janab Amil Saheb took the initiative and Mumineen responded whole heartedly, and rightly so, as it is the least that we can do for our beloved bawa Shafiq, whose entire life is devoted for our betterment and upliftment, both temporal and spiritual.

The immense love and affection that we have for our beloved Aqa Moula (TUS) was reflected in the large turnout at all centres.

May Allah grant Aqa Moula (TUS)a long and healthy life. Ameen

Abde Syedna (TUS),
Asgar Fakhrudin
www.hikmaah.com

[SBM]

Correction
The article( part of it) is from Mumineen.org
Friday, October 07, 2005

Shehrullah Ibadat by the Dawoodi Bohras in Kolkata

The Mumineen of Kolkata with the raza mubarak of Amil Saheb Janab Yunus bhaisaheb gathered in Saifee Masjid and all 9 centers, where Sehrullah namaz is being prayed , on this first lailatul Jumoa to pray bihori namaz with the niyat, that may Allah grant our beloved Aqa Moula (TUS) sehato afiyat.

[tahir]

the dai is hospitalised in london...today night after namaz they have called a mass gathering in the mosque for Quran recitation and prayers for the dai's well being

[mbohra]

Please refer to my opening post and other which followed; Fruit's and then S.Insaf's.

Case rested!