This is my direct warning to the website. Robust debate is ok. But If it allows hate, vulgarv insult towards Prophet SAW companions or Ahlul-bayt you run risk of destructive wrath of 95% Muslims. This site is searchable. Criticism of Diai is not at same level as criticism of Khalifa Rashidun. A diai achievement or status is insignificant to Ahlul-bayt or the companions.
Successor to the compiler Abubakr RA into kitab form of Quran your Dias so rigorously try to do hifz on its basis.
The Khalifa who took down Christian Byzantine and Zoroastrian Sasanid, Jerusalem.
If you don't like it try denouncing Umar's reputation publicly and watch how like Qadyani you get into real trouble.
There is no written literature ever or exists that says Ali ibn Abi Talib AS, Imam Hassan, Imam Hussein, Imam Sajjad Zainul Abidin ever criticised Umar RA to the extent Shias do today. Show me evidence. Not tawil BS and I promise I will revert back to Bohraism. So try being real Shias of Ali AS not Shias of some Qazis.
You will deny to accept Khalifa were not your enemy because it is so embarrassing to accept Imam Ali gave Umar RA, whether as love or political symbolic reasons his daughter. To have a physical relationship with Umar RA. You do know marriage leads to sharing intimacy that results in children. Shias are not that naive to not know what is marriage.
Would you in 21st century offer your daughter to marry and sleep with your rival family ? What did SKQ do he asked his daughters to separate from SMS sons out of their petty dispute of negligible significance to 2 billion Muslims. Get my point. Let FD explain how they would not reconcile a much superior institution of marriage that is a far more significant wajib and sunna than disputing a Diai position. Why is it so unShia to not have 2 Diais side by side. Which kitab states a diai of Islam is only Diai for a tribal culture. Don't you see what kind of iman you are stuck in.
Shia are so blinded by the books written 200 years after Saqifa events that they are now locked into a division theory filled with hate that never was. That hate has produced your current iman. Your Diais exploit that division to keep you ignorant and them rich. It is mind boggling hard to accept. Yet you will risk wrath on judgement day that you insisted to follow a dispute to end for your egos.
If people read intellectually about the 2 companions you will be so surprised that Ali ib Abi Talib AS the real Ali AS , not the myth character traditional Shia like Bohra have created in their theology, how much he respected and vice versa they cared about each other. They had political disputes without doubt but never crossed the line for their united love of Islam or Prophet SAW hard work.
But Shia as a result of political fitna centuries later started doctoring history. And geopolitical wars between emerging rivalries that created Sunni and Shia. Don't het me wrong Umar or the 3 Khalifa never ever called them Sunni . That term also came 200 years later by the use of terms to identify a group of theologians.
I challenge you ask your Dias, where did they kearn about Imam Ali AS , which book, when was it written they lead to the times so later and by authors in courts. The equivalent of Qazis , poets and opinionated scholars. You are literally so off track that you no longer follow Quran or logic but a mythology.
Shabab wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:41 amAgain stating. You are UMAR and Muawiyah lover ( lanat on them and their followers).Please do not poke your nose in shia affairs until you are a bohra or atleast a shia.Bohra spring wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:48 pm Can STF declare openly that the next Diai will not be selected from direct relationship but will be on merit. Lead the change from within.
Do not derail our discussions.