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truemumin
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jawab do oma, jawab do

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Unread post by truemumin » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:14 pm

How about your tax money being used by US govt for helping Israel and waging war against muslims?
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Jawab do Oma jawab do.....

mumineen
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Unread post by mumineen » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:20 pm

truemumin:

Try telling this to the IRS and see what happens!!
Your arse would be whipped so much that it would look like two doors which are shut for ever; - apart from the "water-boarding" torture which is a standard for USA law enforcement people like the Homeland Security etc.

SBM
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Unread post by SBM » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:17 pm

Truemumin
MY TAX MONEY IS NOT A WILLING CONTRIBUTION TO GEORGE BUSH BUT LOOK AT THE BOTTOM, THE PERSON WHO IS IN CHARGE OF DAWAT E HADIYAH USA HAS WILLINGLY CONTRIBUTED TO BUSH CHENNEY CAMPGAIN
Aamir and Turab Zakiuddin are in charge of Dawat E Hadiyah as well as Aamil in California and he and other people contributed about US $ 250 000.00 towards re electing Bush
SO BEFORE YOU ASK ME, ASK YOUR AAMIL WHY DID HE AND OTHERS GAVE TO BUSH

ZAKIUDDIN, AAMIR MR.
NORTHRIDGE, CA 91326
ZAKI TRADERS/EXPORT/IMPORT
BUSH, GEORGE W
VIA BUSH-CHENEY '04 (PRIMARY) INC

08/20/2003 2000.00 23992062286

ZAKIUDDIN, TURAB MR.
NORTHRIDGE, CA 91326
SELF-EMPLOYED/PRINTING
BUSH, GEORGE W
VIA BUSH-CHENEY '04 (PRIMARY) INC

08/20/2003 2000.00 23992062286

Total Contributions: 4000.00

DAWAT-E-HADIYAH AMERICA A CORPORATION SOLE
ANJUMAN-E-MOHAMMEDI SAN DIEGO INC In Care of NameTURAB ZAKIUDDIN Address19550 SHADOW GLEN CIR
NORTHRIDGE, CA 91326-3828

MapG MapY MapV IRS Subsection501(c)(3) - A religious, educational, charitable, scientific or literary organization. Type of FoundationChurch Type of OrganizationCorporation DeductibilityContributions are deductible

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Unread post by SBM » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:15 am

Contributor Occupation Date Amount Recipient
EZUDDIN, MUSUMA S MRS
PEMBROKE PINES,FL 33028 UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JACKSON MEMORIA 9/24/2003 $2,000 Bush, George W

accountability
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Unread post by accountability » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:37 am

In addition, Quad johar bhaisaheb and two others bought three plates each costing $10000.00 for bush fundraiser.

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Unread post by allbird » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:17 am

Those plates where NOT contribution to Attach Iraq or Afghanistan, it was a token of thanks for letting Dawoodi Bohras built so may Masajids in US of A. And those campaign $$$$ are ONCE OFF unlike you religiously pay TAX to funds war on MUSLIM nation. Campaige money goes into pockets of politicos and your TAX funds go to US troops to fight Crusade.

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Unread post by allbird » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:21 am

truemumin:

Try telling this to the IRS and see what happens!!
Your arse would be whipped so much that it would look like two doors which are shut for ever; - apart from the "water-boarding" torture which is a standard for USA law enforcement people like the Homeland Security etc.

Salam truemumineen please note the language used once they get cornered they will start using similar language about everyone they will not spare even Rasuallah (SWT). So please STOP replying to this people.

mumineen
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Unread post by mumineen » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:15 pm

AlBird/truemumin:

"Laato ka Bhooto Baato se nahi soonté"

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Unread post by SBM » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:44 pm

AlBird/Truemumin
I was asked a question why my money is being used by BUSH for war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I am asking you why KOTHAR is subsidizing the war in Karbala by giving money to BUSH re-election in 2004 when he had already invaded Iraq in 2002.I did not contribute voluntarily while these Aamils paid willingly
Why the Aamils and Shaikhs contributed to the bloodshed in KARBALA
PLEASE DO NOT BE SPINMEISTER AND CHANGE TOPICS LET US DISCUSS, YOU HAVE THE ADDRESS AND THE NAME OF AAMILS PLEASE ASK THEM TO CLARIFY THEIR STAND.

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Unread post by allbird » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:03 pm

Simple Omaben simple waat che, why put so much pressure on your feeble unbalanced brains. The money was paid to BUSHBOY for protecting our assets in Karbala. If Obama get elected we may have to do the same. We even contributed money to Al Gore so whats the big deal about BUSHBOY. Money talks Bullshit walks !!!!

:p

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Unread post by anajmi » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:15 pm

That is the true kothari speaking. If you throw enough money at the feet of Syedna, you can even make him perform mujra at your wedding ceremony. Then the money won't just be talking, but dancing and singing too.

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Unread post by jayanti » Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:19 pm

anajmi
i bet if i throw money on u,u would change your sex too. thats kind of progressive u r. dont compare with aqa maula not even think of it.

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Unread post by SBM » Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:29 pm

Albird
So why your friend Truemumin made big deal about my tax money going to Bush and using the same for attacking Iraq and Afghanistan.

truemumin
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Unread post by truemumin » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:32 am

Albird
So why your friend Truemumin made big deal about my tax money going to Bush and using the same for attacking Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Because you first questioned why jamaat paid money to Bush / Bal / Modi. Hope you understand the reasons now

Albird, you were right. These peoples can say anything to religious high ups without thinking for a second what they are writing. yes maybe the next number is of rasuallah (SAW). And this proves how illeterate and unethical these peoples are from inside. Dogs will bark but we cannot bark in front of dogs

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Unread post by makberi » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:53 am

truemumin......when one runs out of valid points ....he/she will try to create defence mechanisms...n suddenly the opponent becomes "illiterate" and "unethical".....i m not asking u to give up ur beliefs....all i m asking u is to keep an open mind....even if the other disagrees with u...doesnt mean he is "barking".....open mindedness was the hallmark of the fatimid imams....i hope u will keep that into consideration

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Unread post by SBM » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:31 pm

truemumin
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posted January 29, 2008 01:14 PM
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How about your tax money being used by US govt for helping Israel and waging war against muslims?
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Jawab do Oma jawab do.....
HOW ABOUT KOTHARIS GIVING CONTRIBUTION TO BUSH CHENNEY RE ELECTION FUND

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Unread post by truemumin » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:58 pm

Oma. Again you are starting same chain which is discussed. If kothars giving (lets suppose for the moment they are wrong), then what about you. If you are right, quit USA

makberi. I am not doing any defensive mechanisms. Believing is a different thing but the words and sentence you use for a religious leader are not right. Syedna burhanuddin Maula is our religious father and more then a genetic father. What if i use such words for your father/mother and your family?

makberi
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Unread post by makberi » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:31 pm

i m not sure which words r u referring to ...but i agree with u....inappropriate language shudnt be used against anybody....i wud advise u to ignore such comments...the person will be answerable to Allah in the end...

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Unread post by SBM » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:39 pm

truemumin quote
"If you are right, quit USA"
MY REPLY;
"ONLY COWARDS QUIT'BRAVES FIGHT,I FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE OF IMAM HUSSAIN

truemumin
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Unread post by truemumin » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:18 pm

Oma. ok so may i know whats your plan, how do to plan to fight against Bush ?

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Unread post by truemumin » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:20 pm

correction

Oma. ok so may i know whats your plan, how do "YOU" plan to fight against Bush ? I would like to know your plan. Do not pull jamaat in because as per your theory they are doing wrong

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Unread post by SBM » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:33 pm

By not contributing to his and his party's election unlike the SHEZADAAS,AAMILS AND KOTHARIS WHO ARE STILL DOING THE SAME.

truemumin
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Unread post by truemumin » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:40 pm

You are already involved through your tax money. When you know where your tax money is going so you are involved in it

Alislam
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Unread post by Alislam » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:59 am

You are already involved through your tax money. When you know where your tax money is going so you are involved in it

This is a unipolar world which we live in today.

Governments are the same irrespective of the countries you live in and you dont have control over your tax money utilization by governments.

Aarif
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Unread post by Aarif » Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:22 pm

Governments are the same irrespective of the countries you live in and you dont have control over your tax money utilization by governments.
Agreed.. This is true.. The best example is India.

Brother Truemumin,

It looks like you are basically from India. Most of the people in gulf are from India. If you pay tax to the Indian goverment then you do not even know where that money goes. Most of it is utilized by the politicians for maintaining their lavish life styles and building personal assets. Also, other illicit activities like booze and women.

BTW: There is a very nice movie called "Iraq on Sale". You should see this movie. After seeing it you will realize that the Americans apart from Bush and his cronies are dead against these wars. They do not want their hard earned tax money to be spend on war. There are lots of discussions going on about this between Bush and opposition. So believe me nobody in America wants to support these wars.