Waaz Mubarak on Lailatul Arba'een (Chehlum)

[porus]

zeal,

I have read your many posts and long ago concluded that you are an idiot.

Do not teach me or anyone else about Allah or the Quran. You have yet to take even the first step towards understanding them.

As to those Muslims who think that Allah is never associated with anger, they need only refer to Surat al-Fatiha. Bohras know it as 'alhamdulilla ni surat'. They recite it in every rakaa of every prayer. What do the words "ghayril maghdhubi alayhim" mean"? They mean "not those with whom you (Allah) are angry". Also, fanatical Bohras, some of the the most ignorant Muslims, should search the Quran for word 'gadhiba' and all its inflections. Not that they will know what I mean.

[Zeal]

Porus,

People like you who claim that they understand quran and Allah better than any zeal and accountability and yet reject faith are the biggest idiots in this entire universe.

Long back I have concluded about you , and some of your gang members like Kalim etc that you are the ones who are lost and drowned in the false wave of intelligence and modernism.

Accusing anybody like the way you do ...shows how impatient and immature you are.

May allah show you the right way!

[porus]

Originally posted by Zeal:
Porus,

People like you who claim that they understand quran and Allah better than any zeal and accountability and yet reject faith are the biggest idiots in this entire universe.

I make no such claim. Only an idiot will think that.

[Zeal]

quote from porus

Do not teach me or anyone else about Allah or the Quran. You have yet to take even the first step towards understanding them
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A person who himself does not understand quran and Allah tells other people that he is an ignorant in that area and is yet to take the first step towards understanding it.

Sorry ...only an idiot like you can say that !

[porus]

zeal,

looks like that hit a raw nerve there.

I am sorry I called you an idiot. I underestimated your great wisdom. I see now that you are indeed very wise.

Do enlighten us about Allah and the Quran!

[Zeal]

Thats better ..

First of all do realize that Allah subhanho talah is free of all emotions.
Continue this for some time and in the process you will slowly understand how amazing it is to be like that.

And this entire creation thats the masterpiece of Allah almighty and how he runs it is no joke to understand in its completeness...Allah ho aalam!
He knows his secrets and no one else better
We all are no doubt idiots here.

But when I accept his master work and join in the faith I surely become a less idiot than you and the ones who reject it.

[SBM]

Hello IM Mature
you are the one who is using abusive language by calling omadonkey and you are the one who is not replying how much Wajebaats did you pay and who is the Shezada who helped you????????? You started this long before and yes what happend to your freinds at Animal Kingdom
So once again come clean and tell us how much Wajebaats did you pay and name the Shezaada and please donot disappear again before telling us how much did you pay???????????

[anajmi]

porus,

Although I agree with you on this one, however, some time back I remember discussing with you the "fear" of Allah when you outright rejected that concept out of the quran.

Now you say that Allah says in the quran that he does get angry. So if he does not intend for you to fear him, why is he getting angry?

[porus]

anajmi,

You are still not clear on where I come from.

Description of God as it is in the Quran is anthomorphic and has human qualities. I try to discuss Quran in its own terms, about what Quran itself says about various topics, as it is literally understood by most Muslims.

I do not subscribe to that view of God. I choose to interpret Him in the way mystics have described him in their interpretation of not only the Quran but other world scriptures also.

In this view God cannot be described at all. While I cannot describe God, I am attracted to the idea that God is uncreated essence of which 'all that is' is mere illusory manifestation. That is, the cosmos is an illusion created by the mind. In this God is consciousness and joy. Hindus have a word for it. It is "Satchitanand".

I cannot go into detail on this but there is tons of material on this on the internet, if you care to find out.

Needless to say, my interpretation is not the "Truth". It is just something to play with. And no body else, now or in the past or in the future, knows or has known or will know the "Truth".

And of course, every one else on earth is entitled to their own view of God and very welcome to it.

[anajmi]

porus,

You are damn right I am not clear on where you come from.

[mature]

calling a donkey a donkey is not abusive.its the truth .why do youu wan want to know whatwajebaat i pay .thats my personal bussiness unlike you i am not a hypocrate i pay my dues and do not complain or backbite later i leave that to the donkeys

[mbohra]

Talk about the "donkeys" or "asses":, the following might interest you:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060404/od_ ... HNlYwM3NTc

[SBM]

Hey IM Mature
Atleast I agree that I am an hypocrate but what are you, If you are such an astuate follower what are you doing on this message board. You are not supposed to be dealing with Dawat Na Dushmano as the progressives are called. So you an imbasole,moron hypocrate answer the question which you yourself posed long time ago.

[mature]

ha ha omadonkey for once you called yourself right that you progs are not reformists but dawat na dushmano.you have no agenda in being a bohra at all but are there just to criticize. And i am not a hypocrate at all, show me one post where i have praised your moronic leaders even when the snake insaap tried to call me his brother i refused so do not call me a hypocrate thats what you progs are ,and i spit on you