Pray for the muslims in Iraq

[anajmi]

Dear Believing brothers and sisters.

Please remember the muslims in Iraq in your prayers and whenever you have 3 or 4 extra minutes, pray 2 rakat salat-ul-hajat for their safety.

[Dilber]

YES

Please pray for the poor people of Iraq. The kafar is in the heart of Iraq now.

BUT let us also remind oursleves:

1. Brother Qatar is the Head Quarter of Allied forces.
2 Brother Bahrain is the Allied Naval Head quarter.
3. Brother Egypt put a price tag of $4.5 Billion on her loyalty
4. Brother Saudis are "keeping is low"
5. Brother Jordan is "doing all it can"

Also remember:

1.The war has been Arab-Israeli war, never a Muslim-Jew war
2. Ba'ath party is the last thing a Muslim EVER want to see.
3. Earleir when Brother Iraq attacked brother Kuwait, the Kafar helped Kuwait, this time Kuwait is helping the Kafar against brother Iraq.

Also let us remind ourselves:

1. Brother Muslim country Iraq imorted a huge quantity of sabotage weapons through diplomatic mail bag to Pakistan in the early 70's. These were put on a train and shown to the whole of Pakistan, the brotherly gesture of Islamic Iraq to Pakistan.

2. Muslim Brother Iraq has ALWAYS sided with India versus Pakistan.

LASTLY:

Remember the buses regulalry going to Egypt via Jordan?
Indeed taking the dead bodies of Egyptian workers (mainly farmers). The main fature used to be their fractured skulls. A brother Egyptian was brought in to work for brother Iraqi, salaries were never paid. After a year or so when the Egyptian became impatient, somehow his skull got to get fractured. Alas.

NONETHELESS: Let us pray for Iraqis. Iraq is land known for Karbala and these are the people who invited Imam Husain (r.a.) by sending him plea after plea. Iraqis indeed are being visited by Halakoo Khan for the second time. Let us pray for them Baghdad is burning.

[anajmi]

dilber,

you need not spend your time in praying for them. I appealed to the believing brothers and sisters, so that exempts you in anycase.

[Muddai]

1. Should we pray for the Shias or the Sunnis ?
2. Should we pray another rakat or two for the Muslims Saddam tortured ?
3. How about adding a few rakats for the 500,000 muslims who died in the Iraq / Iran war ?
4. Then add some for the Muslims killed by the Taliban ?
5. Well the Muslims tortured in Saudi Arabia should be added too, right ?
6. We can't forget the Muslims in Iraq Saddam gassed, either.

That is a long, long prayer my friend, and we haven't even addressed the non-muslim violence yet.

[anajmi]

I will repeat

Dear Believing brothers and sisters.

Please remember the muslims in Iraq in your prayers and whenever you have 3 or 4 extra minutes, pray 2 rakat salat-ul-hajat for their safety. I will let you figure out who you want to pray for and it doesn't matter if you do not. The simplest way of doing it, which seems to escape our intelligentsia is - pray for all muslims

[anajmi]

that is the best thing about prayers. see, in 2 rakats you can cover everybody. But those who don't want to can find 500,000 excuses.

[Muddai]

I will repeat
Should we pray for the Shias or the Sunnis ?

We should obviously pray for those that claissify 500,000 dead believing muslims as 500,000 excuses

[anajmi]

Well, I guess I will have to ignore your posts, cause your idiotic comments only become more and more idiotic.

[Dilber]

Brother Anajami:

Assalamu Alaikum wr wb:

Thanks for adding something to my Hasanaat by your wild verdict.

You wrote:
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dilber,

you need not spend your time in praying for them. I appealed to the believing brothers and sisters, so that exempts you in anycase.
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Subhan'Allah:

1.Since when have you begun to know what is in the hearts of others.

2. What exactly was wrong that I said in my post that made you proclaim such an authoritative and cruel verdict. I think you did not read my post completely.

3. It will be good for you and others if you tone down a bit the sharpness of your messages. In the end it is you who is answerable and no one else.

Wassalam
Dilber

[anajmi]

Br. Dilber,

Please forgive me if I offended you. No, I do not know what is in your heart.

All I ask for is a prayer and you give me a big list of "Brother this and Brother that" and fractured heads.

Are you saying that because of these fractured heads you won't be praying for the muslims in iraq anymore? Is that a sign of a believer? Maybe, I do not know what is in their hearts, and you are right in the end each one of us is answerable for our own deeds and thoughts.

Salaam.

[Dilber]

Salam again:

Al HamduLillah: For the past few Fridays we have been having 2 Raka's of salatul hajah after Jumah prayer.

My earlier post only pointed towards the irony of the situation. Indeed I did suggest TWICE that we pray for our brothers in Iraq, even though Iraqi government has nothing to do with Islam and has been guilty of crimes against Islam.

At the same time, my post pointed to the sad fact of Muslim nay arab division and how one Arab is after the blood of another Arab. Among the Muslims, it is the non Arabs who are feeling the pain, Arabs are actually adding to the miseries of Iraqis. Husni Mubarak in fact complained at the delay in finishing it off.

also we can not deny that Iraqis in general are very cruel people, it seems they are paying for their sins. May Allah swt have mercy on them
Wassalam

[whoami]

I think we should also pray that our holy sites are not compromised by the British and Americans and the Iraqis have the humility and good sense not to use the mosques in Karbala and Najaf for fighting.

[saif]

Hope: At this critical juncture when war is the buzz word of the War Mongers, many Muslims are left in despair and in a state of hopelessness. It may seem that the death of millions of innocents is now inevitable, but we must continue to strive our utmost to defend them and to spread the truth about this immoral war. Above all, we must remember that Allah Ta'ala has control over all things and can provide help in ways we do not even understand. Not even the 'greatest' superpower can overpower Him! No falsehood is to remain forever. No oppression is to remain forever. After hardship comes ease. The bitter reality of the Muslim nation will come to an end, and tomorrow will be definitely better than today. We should have HOPE in the ALL encompassing MERCY and HELP of Allah Ta'ala under all circumstances, whether it be in victory, defeat, happiness or sadness.
Hadhrat Ibn Abbaas(radhiyallahu anhu) reported that : " I was(once) behind Nabi(sallallahu alaiyhi wassallam) when he said to me: 'O son ! I shall inform of a few things: Remember Allah, and He will protect you. Remember Allah, and you will find Him close to you. When you have to ask for something, ask of Allah Ta'ala. When you require aid, seek His aid. Believe firmly that if all the creation desires to benefit you in anything, they can never benefit you, but, that which Allah has decreed for you. If they ALL unite to harm you, they will not be able to harm you in anything, but that which Allah has decreed for you." (Tirmizi)
Duaa: Make ernest, sincere duaa. Try to shed tears and beg Allah Ta'ala to alleviate the suffering of the Muslims in Iraq; and other places where Muslims are oppressed. Beg Allah Ta'ala with sincerity.(like a child begging his mother).
Nafl Salaat: Even if;one is not a regular performer of Tahajjud salaat; atleast for the sake of the lives of the innocents; get up at the time of Tahajjud and perform two rakaats of salaah; contemplate on the sufferings,that the Ummah is facing today; beg Allah Ta'ala for His Divine Help and assisstance.Shed some tears; Ask for Forgiveness and help for the Abstention from sin and for Allah Ta'ala's Divine Solution.
Participate in Peace Rallies and Anti -war campaigns: keeping in mind the shariah injunctions of good character, hijab, peace etc.
Charity(Sadaqah): Give some charity(sadaqah) on behalf of the Muslims in Iraq; on behalf of the orphans; the widows;the martyrs and those that are the victims of oppression. This sadaqah may even be a loaf of bread or bottle of milk to a needy person in your area.
Fast: Keep a nafl fast on any day of one's choice. At the time of breaking one's fast ;Beg Almighty Allah Ta'ala, to alleviate the sufferings of the Muslim Ummah in Iraq and other parts of the world where Muslims are unjustly being opressed.
Relief and Financial Aid: The lives;homes and infra-structure of the people of Iraq have been devastated over the last 12-15 years. Assist by aiding financially to a legitimate Relief agency in your area. Spare ourselves from over indulgences and financially aid our Brothers and sisters in this hour of need.
Make News outlets Aware: Keep a vigilant eye on the news outlets; magazines etc. and respond timeously to their bias comments and views. Participate in phone-in sessions on the Radio. If one is unable to do so; make those who are able to do so; aware of such comments; articles etc. so that timeous responses are made. Forward pertinent and relevant articles you come across to the International and local media outlets.
Qunoot-e-Naazilah: Rasulullah(sallaaahu alayhi wassallam) encouraged the Ummah to read this duaa at the time of distress and calamity. Encourage family members to recite this duaa daily; as well as our local ulama to recite in the Fajr salaah;preferably. We may learn or get a copy of the Duaa-e-Naazila from our local Ulama; and may recite it; even as a Duaa outside salaah if we are unable to read it in salaah.
Surah Yaseen: At these trying times, it would be beneficial to recite Surah Yaseen daily.
Useful Wazeefahs: One may read these beneficial wazeefahs; 100 times daily during times of calamity and distress.
(i) "Hasbunallaahu wa ni'mal wakeel": Allah is sufficient for us and our Guardian.
(ii) "La ilaaha illa anta subhaanaka inni kuntu minaz zaalimeen": There is none worthy of worship except You. Certainly I am amongst the wrongdoers.

Hazrat Anas(R.A.) describes that Rasulullah(sallaaahu alayhi wassallam) said that Allah Ta'ala says that sometimes, He intends to send a calamity to a land; but the idea is given up; seeing those men who populate His houses(Masjids) and recite "ISTIGHFAAR" in the late hours of the night; and He witholds the calamity. (BAYHAQI)

Hazrat Jabir(R.A.) and Hazrat Abu Talha(R.A.) reported that Rasulullah(sallaaahu alayhi wassallam) has said that whosoever helps a Muslim at the time of loss of honour and humility; will receive Help from Allah when he is in need of help.( ABU DAWOOD)

This is a time for unity and solidarity with the innocent people who are
under attack. We are urged to do whatever we can for them, from the smallest action to the greatest.
LET US PARTICIPATE IN SOME HUMBLE WAY - FOR THE SAKE OF PEACE AND SANCTITY OF LIFE.
(Compiled from Islamic Sources)

[anajmi]

Br. Dilber,

You say maybe Iraqis are paying for their sins. I say, it is because of sentiments like these that Muslims today are their own biggest enemies. A lot of time during Jummah prayer people ask people to pray for others because they have died or because they are sick. Should we say that may be they are paying the price of their sins and so there is no need to pray for them?

You are no better than the Iraqis (if they are as bad as you say they are)

Salaam.

Again, I apologize if I have offended you.

[Dilber]

Asslamu Alaikum wr wb

Brother Anajmi:

I think we are mixing up things here.

1. I never said we should not pray for the Iraqi people. My first message started with an emphatic YES and ended with a plea to pray for them.

2. We must not close our eyes on the cruelty visited upon some of our brothers as well.

Prayer and self assesment do not have to be mutualy exclusive.

Finally, I mut say I always read your messages with admiration, it is only at times that I wish you were a little easy on others.

Jazakallah Khair
Dilber

[shaybani]

Dear All,

I have no idea where you people are from but you people surprise me more and more through your ever increasing idiotic behaviour. I have stumbled over your cursed site by accident and thought i'll leave this comment to perhaps wake you up.

1) Your use of the arabic language is always inaccurate and in the wrong place-please do everyone a favour and refrain from using a language you simply do not understand;

2) your treatment to shias is inacceptable and will lead you to the bottom of hell;

3) Your comment about the Egyptians is simply an utter lie. The truth is that the Egyptians that were sent to Iraq at that time were convicts in Egypt, hence not surprisingly they raped and assaulted Iraqi women hence the treatment they got;

4) You acuse the shia of being infidel, but look at your actions. any sane person would think the true infidel are the sunnah who kill, rape, and terrorise innocent Iraqis. I don't know which book you read and attempt to implement, but i sure hope it's not the holy Quran because the Quran curses such people!

5) Seriously now isn't there a single decent Sunni scholar who is prepared to condemn the sickening actions of terrorists acting in the name of Islam in Iraq? I don't want to accuse all sunnis of being terrorists, but I'm tempted because i have yet to meet a decent one who has the slightest qualities of a human being.

I pray to allah to expose the wrong doers and punish them in this life as well as the next!!!

[anajmi]

shaybani,

I have no idea where you are from, but I have to say that you aren't the most ignorant moron I have ever heard from, but you would be amongst the top of my list and believe me, it is a pretty long list.

If people had used only languages that they understood, we would still be saying laaaalaalalalllbooobbaaabaaaa. I guess that is what your post sounds like boooobaaaaalaaaaaaloooo!!

What treatment to shias are you talking about you moron? Similar to your treatment to the Sunnis, as we see right now?

As far as meeting a single decent sunni is concerned, well, I am guess they'd rather stay away from the likes of you.

[Al-Muizz]

Well, here is where I gotta give my 2 cents worth. The Sunni Wahabi culture has poisoned the well of Ilm in Islam. They have sowed the seeds of discord by their terrorism. Saudi and Pakistani madrassas of hatred have watered the weeds we call the Taliban. But the problem, as an American, is this: These morons are waging a Jihad where they will test hell on earth, courtesy the US govt. They will never break our resolve. The biggest terrorists are the Saudis and the Pakistanis. They have constantly aided and abeted these terrorists, and we Americans will be better off curtailing relations with these two terrorists nations

[Humsafar]

Your 2 cents is riddled with ignorance and arrogance. And it is so typical of America's ill-informed, insulated mainstream culutre.

If you had any knowledge of US history you would know that the American ruling class views the world and its resources as its own. As if it has some god-given right to it for its own exclusive profit and pleasure. (Of course, some of us justify American imperialism as nothing more than the plain old, simple and natural self-interest. But they forget that as 'civilisied' nations we've made progress and that our national self-interest must operate within the framework of international law.)

Anyway, to get back to the point I was making, much of the "Muslim" trouble that we have in the world today is the result of America's single-minded aim to control countries and its resources. America's financial and military support for Israel's cruel, inhuman and unjustified occupation of Palestine is the primary cause of "Muslim" anger and “terrorism”. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are no doubt authoritarian states but are by no means the "biggest terrorists". It is the US that has invaded and occupied Afghanistan and Iraq, it's Israel that has occupied Palestine. They are the biggest terrorists. Read a little bit of US History - from Mark Twain down to Ward Churchill - to learn how America has created havoc on every continent and practically every country of the world.

Of course, this is not to say the Wahabis are not blame. They are using (abusing) Islam for their own end - just as sayedna is doing for his own rather benign if petty end. Saudi Arabia has been the most aggressive promoter of Wahabi culture - and often with the enthusiastic support of America (e.g. afghan mujahideen against the soviet union) - but compared to the American might and terror, it's nuisance value amounts to no more than that of a schoolyard bully. The less said of Pakistan the better.

To say that "Americans will be better off curtailing relations with these two terrorists nations" is to display an appalling ignorance of current affairs. Do you know that these two "terrorist nations" are America's strong allies in its "war against terrorism"? Go figure.

[tahir]

The source of Al Muizz's post is not his ignorance but his insecurity and ideological rootlessness that leads him to identify with the power of the day...this is true for all bohris in general...the only thing they are concerned about is their "dukaan" (in metaphorical sense).......these islamic jews would not hesitate to sit in the lap of anyone who can facilitate their "supplies" (irrespective of his deeds)....remember kothar felicitating Narendra Modi in the aftermath of Gujrat riots?...bohris suffer with an utter lack of character and their opinion on anything is never stronger than the fluffy and wrinkled ass of mulla burhanuddin......Just to quote an instance of his shallowness of opinion, here is something he said in defense of a kothari thug (in the thread "HOT NEWS"):

Again, SO WHAT? THE ENTIRE U.S. GOVT. is corrupt! What's the big deal!

So why would he support the stance of a government which he "thinks" is currupt in entirity!!

[Al-Muizz]

Humsafar:

Here's the problem. The majority of Americans know that Bush and his team is in bed with the Saudis'. Expecting them to be impartial about the sleazy and corrupt govts of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia is like asking a kid in a candy store not to touch anything---Saudi Arabia's corrupt govt is in power because of us, Americans. If we leave, that "royal" family is in "royal" s###. We get an "ally" to help us control the inflation in the U.S., and a partner that can actually buy our weapons, and support our businesses-Saudi consumes a lot of American goods.
Pakistan has long been a harbour of terrorists. When its convenient for the Pakistanis' they become our "allies", giving us low ranking "Al-Qaeda" thugs to appease the ignorant and stupid intelligence agencies we have. We get Pakistan's "cooperation" and they get their debt forgiven. The truth is Pakistan and Saudi Arabia have the means to stop these insurgents; but they choose to turn their focus, because they know their status in their countries is very weak. They have supported the Wahabi cult for so long, the devil has taken on another head. It's time our tax $$ go to support those countries that make concerted efforts to root out the terrorists within their countries!

As for Israel.....noone said what they do is justified. However, I have yet to see a Jewish terrorist who boards a bus in Palestine and blows it up. Yes, the govt of Israel is an atrocious govt, but that is another different topic of discussion!

[Average Bohra]

To say that much of the "Muslim" trouble that we have in the world today is the result of America's single-minded aim to control countries and its resources is an overly simplistic way of looking at an otherwise serious problem facing Muslims and absolves them of all accountability. If the US’ unjust support of Israel is the primary cause of Muslim anger, this anger would have also surfaced at numerous other injustices Muslims have suffered in the hands of other Muslims. History has proven otherwise.

The US conspired with the Muslims to drive the Russians out of Afghanistan. It did not create Al-Qa’ida nor was it its sole financier. The Muslims decided to create a utopia in Afghanistan after driving the Russians out, and with the US no longer interested, what did we get?

Pakistan and Saudi Arabia support terrorists, and brainwash unsuspecting kids in their Madrasas, this is due to Wahabi beliefs and its attempt to take Islam back a thousand years. It has nothing to do with the US or its ambitions. Blame who you want, but terrorism is an Islamic problem and can only be resolved from within.

I would not rely on any book written by Ward Churchill, let alone rely on his interpretation of history.

[anajmi]

Al-Muizz

As for Israel.....noone said what they do is justified. However, I have yet to see a Jewish terrorist who boards a bus in Palestine and blows it up. Yes, the govt of Israel is an atrocious govt, but that is another different topic of discussion!

Your two cents was worth just that - 2 cents. Is it any wonder that all average morons are americans? And I have yet to see Palentine occupy Israeli land!! But wait they can't, cause then they'll be occupying their own land!!

Idiot!!

[anajmi]

As far as Islamic terrorism is concerned, this is just the bullshit that the american government is feeding the average morons through their feeding tubes. 911, Iraq and the recent bombings in London were all perpetrated by the same terrorist organization!!

[beria85]

There are a bunch of hard core wahabis here who'd never accept other point of view. Wahhabi ideology is so inflexible and so dogmatic that Islam suffers greatly. Islam used to be a religion of discussion, now there seems to be a standard to which all Muslims have to fit to be considered a "real Muslim" and that standard has been set by Wahhabi's (and their gaurantors) b/c they have billions to spend to propagate their ideology of hatred, anti-modernization, and regression. infact, I believe that the Wahhabi ideology is the single greatest threat to Islam.

[Humsafar]

AB,

We've had this discussion before. I know that the world and its problems are much too complex to lend themselves to simplistic analysis and solutions. Please give me more credit than to impute that I blame America solely for all the Muslim problems. However, any half-sensible fool understands that there would be no 9/11 or the so-called "islamic terrorism" if Israel had not occupied Palestine and the US did not have military bases in Muslim countries including Saudi Arabia.

If you think Muslims and Islam (your favourite whipping boys) are so intrinsically and congenitally driven to "terrorism" then why is it that you find so little of it prior to the first Gulf War? "Islamic terrorism" (by the way there's nothing Islamic about it. It's just that a bunch of radicals have hijacked Islam it the same way that the neo-con Christian right have hijacked the American republic. It would not be wrong to call America's war on terror as crypto capitalist Christian terrorism. But such a thought would never cross a domesticated mind. )

As I was saying, "islamic terrorism" is just a response to American terror - a response by frustrated, helpless, long-suffering people who have no option left but to blow themselves up in marketplaces and fly planes into high-rises. It is a pathetic, unequal and ultimately tragic response to the world's mightiest military power. No doubt such a response is nurtured and encouraged by the radical wahabi Islam - yet it is only a response. Radical Islam - wahabi or shia - has seldom been the aggressor, instigator of violence, invaders of countries. Again, "islamic terrorism" would not have been necessary if only the Muslim leaders had guts - it they had guts they would have launched a full scale war against America/Israel a long time ago, and abandoned their people to fend for themselves.

You don't like Ward Churchill. Forget him. Read Mark Twain at least. He had a better grip - a 100 years ago - on the true nature of American imperialism than any latter-day immigrant apologist can care to appreciate.

[Humsafar]

Correction:

...and not abandoned their people to fend for themselves.

[Average Bohra]

I would like to discuss these issues in the current context and not what happened a 100 years ago [these discussions eventually gravitate to], as there are many skeletons in the closets of all parties involved, and the scope of this discussion will continue to be a moving target. If you read my previous post, I am not arguing that terrorism is an intrinsic and congenital Muslim trait, but rather the contrary; it is taught and learned. The fact that this phenomenon is relatively recent, has more to do with the rise of Wahabi influence, than with anything America has done as of late (after all the US has been doing that for at least a hundred years, and Israel has occupied Palestine prior to the first Gulf War, right ?)

Furthermore, it is not a lack of “guts” that prevents Muslim leaders from attacking Israel. It is a lack of capability (which is a whole another topic in itself). As you may recall, they tried several times and lost miserably and suffered embarrassing defeats and each attempt allowed Israel to occupy more land.

You make yet another flawed analogy between the neo-Con movement and Islamic radicalism. First, the neo-Con movement attempts to influence a political party in a particular direction within the confines of a political system, but more importantly, if that party allows such domination then it can be voted out and often has been.

It is important to have an introspective critical look at the current state of Islam separate from the Israeli Palestinian issue. I am vehemently opposed to your contention that "islamic terrorism" is just a response to American terror - a response by frustrated, helpless, long-suffering people who have no option left but to blow themselves up in marketplaces and fly planes into high-rises.. Once you begin to justify the targeted attack on civilians of any country or political affiliation, there is no turning back.

[Amicus Mellitus]

Wahabi bashing being a favorite pastime here; let me refresh the memory of some:

Assassins
Hassan Bin Sabbah
Nizari Fatmi Shia
Jabal Alamut

[b[Rings the bell?[/b]

poor Wahabis stand no chance to be honest

Amicus

[Muslim First]

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"Muslims must open their eyes to the ground reality that an increasing number of non-Muslims have begun to hate them...Muslims must now see the light of the day and move in a different direction. They must discard their worn-out prejudices and outmoded habits and adjust themselves to the requirements of the changing times."---

Adepted from writings of Late Dr. Zakaria
May Allah bless his soul
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