is this a bohara or anti bohara site :s

The one and only free public forum for Bohras. The focus of this forum is the reform movement, the Dawoodi Bohra faith and, of course, the corrupt priesthood. But the discussion is in no way restricted to the Bohras alone.
skaswani
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is this a bohara or anti bohara site :s

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Unread post by skaswani » Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:07 am

salam , how are u all

i m confused , is this a bohora or anti bohara site??
the articals which i read were 200% against syadana sahab

please tell me wht is this site about & plus if you are highly upset with your Leader, then how you following this faith!

waiting for reply s_kaswani@hotmail.com

tahir
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Unread post by tahir » Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:29 am

sajjad bhai ,
Do some homework before shooting such naive questions. Go to the home page of this forum and figure out yourself what site is this. BTW, the alternate of bohra is not necessarily anti bohra. This is a "reformist" bohra site and we all pray that Allah grant Eeman to the self appointed leader mulla burhanuddin who is standing knee deep in sins and is taking his followers straight to hell along with him. So basically we are here for the salvation of a million bonded souls and their leader whom greed and power lust has strayed away from the path of God. You are invited to join us in the prayers for this sinking community.

moomin052
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Unread post by moomin052 » Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:02 am

to tahir who has appointed you the saviour of one million bohras ,you are the last person we need to pray for us, all bohras are happy under our moula except for a few minority disgruntled so called reformists

tahir
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Unread post by tahir » Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:14 am

Sajjad bhai,
Some time back you were looking for a "knowledgeable" bohra guy/girl who can have a live MSN chat with you and enlighten you about their faith. I guess you can try this chap (mooooooooomin052). You'll atleast learn what not to do.

moomin052,
I'll still pray for you.

mumin_mukhlish
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Unread post by mumin_mukhlish » Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:42 pm

Dear Mr. Sajjad bhai,
This is 100% anti bohra site. You can visit following sites to know more abt Bohra community, Their 52nd Dai-al-Mutlaq and how well bohra community is organised under the guidance of 52nd Dai-al-Mutlaq.

For starter , u can visit
http://archive.mumineen.org/publication ... ohras.html

You can also visit : http://www.mumineen.org
http://www.malumaat.com

Dear Mr. Tahir, You are also welcome to visit above sites. but again woh to hai hi na ki "Kutte ki dum kabhi sidhi naheen hoti" :D

tahir
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Unread post by tahir » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:33 pm

Jalee Kya... :D

moomin052
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Unread post by moomin052 » Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:10 am

first tahir pray for your self we all know whats going to happen to you here before you die and after and jalwa no to tu che hame nahi . mr sajjad this is a anti bohra site run by people who claim to be bohras but they are bohras in name only

mumu
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Unread post by mumu » Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:10 am

"first tahir pray for your self we all know whats going to happen to you here before you die".
Dear Moomin052,
I want to clear your doubts, first of all Shaitans do not die. And even though they pray for themselves they are not benifited.
So why do you want him to do the thing he cant do in his coming 7 lives.

tahir
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Unread post by tahir » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:54 am

babu bhai...isiliye shayad buddha abhi tak zinda hai... ;)

JC
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Unread post by JC » Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:34 pm

Hello u ortho bohras

I agree with Taher. This is reformist site. Why u see pro and against coz we believe in democracy and allow disagreements and questioning unlike any ortho bohra site which is run by despots under dictator burhan.
We were born into bohra families and it is our duty to enlighten people of our community.
Who goes to Janat or Jahanam is upto God and God only. No prophet can even gurantee that let alone ur run-away and hiding Imam or so-called dai.
Why is still Imam in hiding? What is he afraid of? Coz there is NO imam at all, this is all drama of dais to rule and perpetuate.
Simple things bohras donot understand:
How on earth a human being like u can come to rescue u after death?
How can he gurantee Janat? What is JAnat after all?
How can u do Sajjda to a human being and Why?
How deaths in their graves can help u?

Bohraism can be anything but Islam, Bohraism can be anything but religion, or way or life or system .....

Wake up!!!

-Laila-
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Unread post by -Laila- » Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:45 pm

Originally posted by tahir:
babu bhai...isiliye shayad buddha abhi tak zinda hai... ;)
Tahir bhai ...I think thats in poor taste !! On the one hand you talk of enlightenment and independent thought ...on the other this !!! Remember you do not have to stoop as low ....Reform is born of dissatisfaction with a system...and the victim doesnt have to become the like victimiser !! unfortunately thats the human mind for you !!

tahir
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Unread post by tahir » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:43 pm

Since when did bohris started having a "taste"??.. :D :D ...babu bhai urf leila bein, thank me since I am praying for ur liberation from shaitan...aur tum log chutiyo ki tarah qayamat tak uski umr daraz karwana chahte ho taki wo tumhara khoon choosta rahe... ;)

tahir
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Unread post by tahir » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:50 pm

Admin,
You should have considered editing my previous message instead of deleting the entire thing. I had sufficiently blurred the two expletives and had a point to make.

mumin_mukhlish
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Unread post by mumin_mukhlish » Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:34 am

Hahaha.. Tahir has become Psychic case. Lagta hai Babubhai ne Tahir ki barabar **** Mari hai ki ab us jhannami ko har jagah Babubhai hi najar aate hai. :D Mubarak Babubhai. Well Done.

Tahir, u r on correct path. first step towards jhannam. Pehle to start dimag se hi hoga na :p

tahir
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Unread post by tahir » Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:01 am

mumin mukhlish urf babu bhai,
jalee kya... :D ...but its not a bad idea to praise urself when no body else does... :D

-Laila-
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Unread post by -Laila- » Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:39 am

[quote]Originally posted by tahir:
mumin mukhlish urf babu bhai,
jalee kya... :) I dont why I wasted my breath !!!

-Laila-
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Unread post by -Laila- » Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:43 am

Originally posted by tahir:
Since when did bohris started having a "taste"??.. :D :D ...babu bhai urf leila bein, thank me since I am praying for ur liberation from shaitan...aur tum log chutiyo ki tarah qayamat tak uski umr daraz karwana chahte ho taki wo tumhara khoon choosta rahe... ;)
Tahir bhai..My name is Laila and I have nothing to do with Babu bhai... I havent abused you so far...and expect you to treat me the same way. I am neither a reformist nor an orthodox. I have an open mind....If you keep treating people with contempt ...how do you think you will influence their way of thinking and bring in the reforms?!

tahir
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Unread post by tahir » Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:07 pm

laila
my full name is tahir bush..."You are either with us or against us"..so you can't be NOT a reformist and still have an open mind...
..what makes u feel I abused u?...I was just praying for u thinking that u r orthodox...and welcome to the board even if u r babu with a new id...this one sounds a tad better than "mamu" (and sexy too ;) ..).

taha52
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Unread post by taha52 » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:33 am

laila's tahir's new rand. lage raho

tahir may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot.

taha52
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Unread post by taha52 » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:35 am

tahir a sharp tongue does not mean you have a keen mind. dumb ass burn in hell

-Laila-
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Unread post by -Laila- » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:57 pm

Originally posted by taha52:
laila's tahir's new rand. lage raho

tahir may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot.
Taha.....careful...your idiocy is display at the moment! So dont worry about Tahir ! Impressive vocabulary that !! You from Bhendi Bazaar by any chance?

tahir
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Unread post by tahir » Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:36 pm

laila,
Do not expect a response from taha since he is no more around (atleast as "taha52").....unfortunately his "idiocy" took the better off his "impressive" vocabulary and he was banned from the forum some time back.

-Laila-
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Unread post by -Laila- » Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:43 am

Yeah...just as well..... :)

HUSAIN_HQ
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Unread post by HUSAIN_HQ » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:54 am

As salam!

Let's talk on issue directly.

In my opinion this is %/% Bohra site for you given : </font>
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">May Allah give them bit of sense for humanity!

Fruits
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Unread post by Fruits » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:33 am

i think this site should be renamed as the ANTI SYEDNA site as what ever they say or write is always against the SYEDNA & nothing more .

heavenoheaven
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Unread post by heavenoheaven » Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:03 pm

perfectly right fruits..its no way reformist site, people abuse other posters, say bad words to Sayedna, this is not the way of so called REFORM.

was-salam.
way2heaven

tahir
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Unread post by tahir » Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:32 pm

As a matter of statistics, a majority of currently active members on this forum are pro sayedna. Lets have a look at the composition of this thread :

Total number of people who have posted = 11
No. of people who are definitely pro sayedna= 6 (fruits, heavenonheaven,taha52, mumin mukhlish, mumu, moomin052)
No. of people whose allegiance is not certain = 3 (laila, sajjad kaswani, hussain godhrawala)
Thus total no. of people who do not write agaisnt sayedna = 9

However, the orthos are so paranoid that they magnify the measly 2 (out of 11) and see it as a majority and perennially keep cribbing that this is an "anti sayedna" site. This deep fear probably indicates their tacit acceptance that it is the quality and not the quantity which ultimately matters. They unsuccessfully try to overcome this fear by constantly tellig us about the huge and "staunch" following of sayedna and that how the reformists cannot make any difference in their lifetimes.... :D

Fruits
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Unread post by Fruits » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:52 am

Hey tahir at one stage of my life i too was inclined towards the reformists movement. but what i found was that what the reformists say is only in words and what they follow is exactly the opposite. in udaipur, where i once uded to live(the so called den of the reformists) the bohra youth is involved in all kinds of bad practices like the demanding of money for the dispensary being runned by them. Also i am fed up with the so called sheikh, whom i heard used abusive language for the Syedna which i fell ashamed to produce. How can a reformist group start using such cheap language when ur talking of high morals

heavenoheaven
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Unread post by heavenoheaven » Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:13 am

salam Fruits,
Beleive me reformists are cheap in moral as they r cheap in language..they call themselves REFORMISTS and their way of reform is to abuse other BOHRA people, abuse aqa moula and at the end they talk abt deen.

There is no way once should talk abt MORALS unless he/she is not following principles.

was-salam.
way2heaven

heavenoheaven
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Unread post by heavenoheaven » Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:17 am

salam Tahir,
Statistics can be nething but one cannot change the fact-truth!! The language, arguments, preaching clearly indicates tht its not PRO-BOHRA or REFORMISTS site..its ANTI-SYEDNA site.

was-salam
way2heavn