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Originally posted by anajmi:
As I said, my wife prefers not to read Ismaili junk.
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Did you actually ask her to read at all? Never mind, you are acting like a male chauvinist p*g. You would never allow her to come out of the kitchen, besides web browsing is haram to your womenfolk.
Like I said earlier, lets shed some light on the poetry that is if you can.
QURAAN KI FARYAD
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And I swear to God that the Quran is Allah's Word - I may be wrong but Merchant of Venice is ascribed to Shakespeare whilst Rusulillah (SAWS)never claimed authorship of the Quran despite his detractors suggesting otherwiseLike asking Shakespeare to translate Merchant of Venice.
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Brothers Pardesi and Turbo,
Is this leading anywhere? Let wiser counsel prevail - a truly Islamic response if I may say so. I don't remember who first said so but there is a saying atrributed to various people which goes along the lines of "I never engage in debates with the ignorant - if I win they will hate me and refuse to learn the truth, if I lose they will be emboldened and force their views on everyone"
Let us not forget the cardinal principles of Islam. Let us not refer to Nabi Muhammad (SAWS) or the Quran in any way that may remotely be considered disrespectful. If you must persist then attack their ulema and their Gospels. I have said before that Allah's Majesty would in no way be diminished if the entire world were to deny His existence. In the same way Hazar Imam's stature is independent of the views of the mullahs - he remains the most respected and most decorated Muslim leader and deservedly so. He has been accorded honour and status in Muslim and non-Muslim countries. The wahhabis can agitate as much as they like but because their paymasters are totally under the control of USA and totally impotent in real terms they cannot diminish the Glory of our Imam. Ya Ali Madad
Is this leading anywhere? Let wiser counsel prevail - a truly Islamic response if I may say so. I don't remember who first said so but there is a saying atrributed to various people which goes along the lines of "I never engage in debates with the ignorant - if I win they will hate me and refuse to learn the truth, if I lose they will be emboldened and force their views on everyone"
Let us not forget the cardinal principles of Islam. Let us not refer to Nabi Muhammad (SAWS) or the Quran in any way that may remotely be considered disrespectful. If you must persist then attack their ulema and their Gospels. I have said before that Allah's Majesty would in no way be diminished if the entire world were to deny His existence. In the same way Hazar Imam's stature is independent of the views of the mullahs - he remains the most respected and most decorated Muslim leader and deservedly so. He has been accorded honour and status in Muslim and non-Muslim countries. The wahhabis can agitate as much as they like but because their paymasters are totally under the control of USA and totally impotent in real terms they cannot diminish the Glory of our Imam. Ya Ali Madad
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Nobighe remains the most respected and most decorated Muslim leader and deservedly so. He has been accorded honour and status in Muslim and non-Muslim countries.
Ya Allah (Real One) Madad
Thanks for your sentiments regarding Qur'an and Prophet SAW. If Turbooch needs more dirt on Qur'an, Prophet or Hadith, he can find it on net or I will help him to find one. There are thousands of Anti-Muslim Morons around and one more does not make difference. As far as decoration and awards are concerned I must agree that Your MHI does good work and spends money contributed by Agakhanis wisely.
That does not make him true practicing Muslim. Muslim is one who follows 5 pillars and 7 beliefs (Allah, His Angels, Book of Allah, Messengers of Allah, the Day of Judgment, Predestination, and Life after death) faithfully and exorts others to do same (Q 103).
It is apparent from Ismaili.net (Doctrines)that Agakhni beliefs are far from what a Muslim should believe.
BTW There is a Hadith (Fairytale for you) which quotes prophet SAW saying something like “If you need something ask Allah-------“. Remember “Hz. Ali RA is dead and can not help anybody” and Ali is not Allah at least for a Muslim.
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Could you point out 5 pillars of Islam?Let us not forget the cardinal principles of Islam.
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Muslim First - Salaam
I do not need lessons in Islam nor do I wish to prove my religiousity to anyone other than Allah and His appointed "Ulil Amr"
To each his own is what the Mercy to All Mankind would have said - lip service to the teachings of finest example to mankind maketh not a Good Muslim.
To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible. And that's a quote from St. Thomas Aquinas who was probably a better Muslim than any of us on this board!
You can communicate directly with Allah if you wish - please let me seek a Wasillah. And may Allah judge us both in the Hereafter as He alone sees fit.
I do not need lessons in Islam nor do I wish to prove my religiousity to anyone other than Allah and His appointed "Ulil Amr"
To each his own is what the Mercy to All Mankind would have said - lip service to the teachings of finest example to mankind maketh not a Good Muslim.
To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible. And that's a quote from St. Thomas Aquinas who was probably a better Muslim than any of us on this board!
You can communicate directly with Allah if you wish - please let me seek a Wasillah. And may Allah judge us both in the Hereafter as He alone sees fit.
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Can anyone interpre this for me? BTW who was Umar bin Al-Khattab - not one of the rightly guided was he? Did nobody tell him to ask Allah directlyNarated By Anas : Whenever drought threatened them, 'Umar bin Al-Khattab, used to ask Al-Abbas bin 'Abdul Muttalib to invoke Allah for rain. He used to say, "O Allah! We used to ask our Prophet to invoke You for rain, and You would bless us with rain, and now we ask his uncle to invoke You for rain. O Allah ! Bless us with rain."(1) And so it would rain.
Volumn 002, Book 017, Hadith Number 124.
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Actually it is: Volume 2, Book 17, Number 123.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamental ... 7.sbt.html
Umar, the 2nd Khalifa, is being reported asking Al-Abbas bin 'Abdul Muttalib to intercede (invoking a wasila.
I am surprised to find it in Bukhari. It probably got overlooked by Wahhabi Editorial Board.
In any case, Bukhari is suspect. Hadith needs corrobotraion from other sources.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamental ... 7.sbt.html
Umar, the 2nd Khalifa, is being reported asking Al-Abbas bin 'Abdul Muttalib to intercede (invoking a wasila.
I am surprised to find it in Bukhari. It probably got overlooked by Wahhabi Editorial Board.
In any case, Bukhari is suspect. Hadith needs corrobotraion from other sources.
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Porus,
My memory is failing me - I could have sworn it was 124 not 123!
My memory is failing me - I could have sworn it was 124 not 123!
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124?
Blasphemy!! Leaving out our Dear Uthman? Didn't you know, you are supposed to 'delete' Ali? You, you anti-Wahhabi mushrik!
Blasphemy!! Leaving out our Dear Uthman? Didn't you know, you are supposed to 'delete' Ali? You, you anti-Wahhabi mushrik!
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I too was very surprised to find this hadith in Bukhari. I came across it some years ago when I was researching for an article I wrote on why the Ismailis say Ya Ali Madad. I was also surprised to find hadith showing the Prophet (SAWS)combined prayers even when he was not travelling and when there was no imminent danger. And there is also a hadith about Rasulillah rebuking someone for not including his ahl in Salawaat.
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Dear Nobig,
You are right. This topic is not going anywhere. Like always the fitnatis have succeeded in diverting the discussion from the actual topic which was about Quraan complaining. Like I had said earlier when the mullah brigade have no response they will divert the discussion to Ismailism and the Aga Khan.
Unfortunate as it is the fact remains that a very touching poetry and its poet were deprived of due praise and in the process the silent majority of this board was never able to either join in the discussion or learn from people's comments.
I have time and again requested to revert to the actual topic but ignored by some who must jump in with their 1 1/2 cents even though they do not know anything about the topic.
Is it because an Ismaili wants to talk about Quraan? Nobig, it was never our intention to disrespect Allah, Mohammad, Islam, Quraan or other religions, we were only retaliating to the wahabi ignorant comments about the status of Allah, Mohammad, and specially Quraan as understood by others and in light of the subject poetry.
My apologies sincerely to Anajmi's wife although nothing was addressed to her directly just the subject was about wife beating which according to Anajmi is allowed by Allah for all situations deemed fit for wife beating by individuals.
With this I request the Admin to close this topic and move on to something better (there is always hope).
You are right. This topic is not going anywhere. Like always the fitnatis have succeeded in diverting the discussion from the actual topic which was about Quraan complaining. Like I had said earlier when the mullah brigade have no response they will divert the discussion to Ismailism and the Aga Khan.
Unfortunate as it is the fact remains that a very touching poetry and its poet were deprived of due praise and in the process the silent majority of this board was never able to either join in the discussion or learn from people's comments.
I have time and again requested to revert to the actual topic but ignored by some who must jump in with their 1 1/2 cents even though they do not know anything about the topic.
Is it because an Ismaili wants to talk about Quraan? Nobig, it was never our intention to disrespect Allah, Mohammad, Islam, Quraan or other religions, we were only retaliating to the wahabi ignorant comments about the status of Allah, Mohammad, and specially Quraan as understood by others and in light of the subject poetry.
My apologies sincerely to Anajmi's wife although nothing was addressed to her directly just the subject was about wife beating which according to Anajmi is allowed by Allah for all situations deemed fit for wife beating by individuals.
With this I request the Admin to close this topic and move on to something better (there is always hope).
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Br. Nobig and pardesi
Ya Allah Madad
Nobig is right. Prophet SAW combined prayers without any apperent reson. That means he had more then 3 prayers and so he combined prayers and reduced it to 3 times.
That does not mean that he prayed combined prayers for rest of his life. Object we (Majority of Muslims) learn that once in while yo may combine prayers and it is mercy of Allah SWT. There is a Fatwa by Imam Khomani(excuse my spelling) that one shoudl pray 5 prayers separately when time permits.
Once again
Ya Allah Madad
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Ya Allah Madad
Nobig is right. Prophet SAW combined prayers without any apperent reson. That means he had more then 3 prayers and so he combined prayers and reduced it to 3 times.
That does not mean that he prayed combined prayers for rest of his life. Object we (Majority of Muslims) learn that once in while yo may combine prayers and it is mercy of Allah SWT. There is a Fatwa by Imam Khomani(excuse my spelling) that one shoudl pray 5 prayers separately when time permits.
Once again
Ya Allah Madad
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Muslim First,
Do you agree that Ali was killed in the way of Allah (fi sabili-llah)?
Do you agree that Ali was killed in the way of Allah (fi sabili-llah)?
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I have quoted Hazrat Ali from the Nahjul Balagha commanding 5 separate prayers with details of the times in which they should be offered.
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pardesi,
No need to apologize to my wife. She doesn't even know you exist. Just make sure you apologize to your own wife for thinking about other people's wives.
No need to apologize to my wife. She doesn't even know you exist. Just make sure you apologize to your own wife for thinking about other people's wives.
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Anjami,Originally posted by anajmi:
pardesi,
No need to apologize to my wife. She doesn't even know you exist. Just make sure you apologize to your own wife for thinking about other people's wives.
I was willing to put our conversation to rest but you keep coming back. What were you trying to imply when you said "thinking about other people's wives".
I wasn't having wet dreams about your wife, you stupid. I was trying to make you feel bad about your belief in wife beating you dumba*s. But may be you are one of those who would want others to think about their wives and get pleasure out of dialogue that follows.
Please dont come back with another stupid post, the answer will be even harsher.
Post something positive, if you will, for a change. Look beyond the beard - life is far more beautiful than your imagination.
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pardesi,
Make me feel bad for what? I am only trying to show the Ismaili idiots the folly of their voyeuristic ways. Is it just you or are all Ismailis interested in other peoples bedrooms? And please, don't come back with a harsh answer, I am soooo scared. Life without having to deal with Ismaili idiots would be even better. But what can we do we have to accept the good with the filth that Ismailis dish out.
By the way, did you apologize to your wife for thinking about other people's wives? Even after I warned you not to talk about other people's wives, you kept repeating it in every post. Why is that? Isn't your wife good enough for you? Can you ask her to read my post? Ask her if she thinks if what I am saying is true. Can you do that?
Make me feel bad for what? I am only trying to show the Ismaili idiots the folly of their voyeuristic ways. Is it just you or are all Ismailis interested in other peoples bedrooms? And please, don't come back with a harsh answer, I am soooo scared. Life without having to deal with Ismaili idiots would be even better. But what can we do we have to accept the good with the filth that Ismailis dish out.
By the way, did you apologize to your wife for thinking about other people's wives? Even after I warned you not to talk about other people's wives, you kept repeating it in every post. Why is that? Isn't your wife good enough for you? Can you ask her to read my post? Ask her if she thinks if what I am saying is true. Can you do that?
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Your belief in wife beating, you idiot!Originally posted by anajmi:
pardesi,
Make me feel bad for what?
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"Is it just you or are all Ismailis interested in other peoples bedrooms?"
My suspicion was correct about you. You are one of those who like others to intrude in your bedroom. If you take me for one of those intruders, sorry, not interested in your burqa clad wife.
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"By the way, did you apologize to your wife for thinking about other people's wives?"
No. Didn't need to because I haven't done anything to you or your wife.
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"Why is that? Isn't your wife good enough for you?"
Oh she is gooooood. And so am I. But I am still not interested in your wife. Go find someone else who would take her.
Keep shooting. I can respond to everything you throw at me. But then its going to get ugly and you will again complain about the "filth" Ismailies bring on this board. This coming from a dealer of junk and filth makes me laugh.
Go beat your wife some more. She is sore no more. You are getting low on sawaabs for the akhira. Stupid.
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oooh pardesi. This is going to send him into a "sulk" mode. probably get violent at home. ah well............he'll turn a negative into a positive by buying more sawabs..........if you know what i meanOriginally posted by pardesi:
Originally posted by anajmi:
[qb]pardesi,
sorry, not interested in your burqa clad wife.
Go find someone else who would take her.
what else can this Sunni retard do? except spend hours on end on this board, spend some more time in some madrassa, and some more in getting nightly indoctrinations.Re: QURAAN KI FARYAD
Brothers (and I mean all 3 of you as we are Muslims of varying interepretations) STOP - this is getting ugly now. A little bit of ribbing and mudslinging is fine and occassionaly a bit stronger is acceptable too but let's call a halt before we exceed the bounds of decency,
Ya Ali Madad, Jazzak Allah Kheir and Allah Madad
Ya Ali Madad, Jazzak Allah Kheir and Allah Madad
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Nobi
Ya Allh Madad
Thank you and may your Oolil Amar Shower thousand blessing on you and himself.
Wasalaam
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Nobi
Ya Allh Madad
Thank you and may your Oolil Amar Shower thousand blessing on you and himself.
Wasalaam
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pardesi,
You should listen to your Ismaili brother. Finally an Ismaili has realized that Ismailis can be just a ugly as they blame others to be. That was the point that I was trying to make along. Too bad I had to use Ismaili tactics to prove that point.
Assalaam walaikum wa rahmatullahe wa barakatuhu brother Notbig. JAK.
You should listen to your Ismaili brother. Finally an Ismaili has realized that Ismailis can be just a ugly as they blame others to be. That was the point that I was trying to make along. Too bad I had to use Ismaili tactics to prove that point.
Assalaam walaikum wa rahmatullahe wa barakatuhu brother Notbig. JAK.
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Had to make this one more point.
That is the point behind a burqa. People lower their gaze when they see a burqa clad woman. Now imagine, how many guys have virtual sex with women who are dressed as Ismailis dress their wives. Now imagine what happens to pardesi's wife - who is sooooo good - when she goes to the mall!!sorry, not interested in your burqa clad wife.
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You win again, Anajmi. Bravo. I will not indulge anymore with you on the subject of sex appeal of your and my wife and virtual sex. That seems to be a subject of your choice and taste. Please dont take me wrong. I am not giving up with you, its just that the following happened.
I came across an ayah in the Quraan and will try to apply to myself first. Hopefully you will learn something too.
[49.Surah Al-Hujurat : Ayah 11]
Transliteration: Ya ayyuha allatheena amanoo la yaskhar qawmun min qawmin AAasa an yakoonoo khayran minhum wala nisaon min nisa-in AAasa an yakunna khayran minhunna wala talmizoo anfusakum wala tanabazoo bial-alqabi bi/sa al-ismu alfusooqu baAAda al-eemani waman lam yatub faola-ika humu alththalimoona
"O ye who believe! Let not a folk deride a folk who may be better than they (are), not let women (deride) women who may be better than they are; neither defame one another, nor insult one another by nicknames. Bad is the name of lewdness after faith. And whoso turneth not in repentance, such are evil-doers."
I take back all the comments I made about your wife. I will still remind you of your beliefs about wife beating though, which has nothing to do with your wife personally!
I am not asking you to change your ways, which I know you will never.
Lets get back to decency. Lets talk positive and in the process benefit from knowledge and understanding.
Salaam and Ya Ali Madad.
Remember this is not a perfect translation
I came across an ayah in the Quraan and will try to apply to myself first. Hopefully you will learn something too.
[49.Surah Al-Hujurat : Ayah 11]
Transliteration: Ya ayyuha allatheena amanoo la yaskhar qawmun min qawmin AAasa an yakoonoo khayran minhum wala nisaon min nisa-in AAasa an yakunna khayran minhunna wala talmizoo anfusakum wala tanabazoo bial-alqabi bi/sa al-ismu alfusooqu baAAda al-eemani waman lam yatub faola-ika humu alththalimoona
"O ye who believe! Let not a folk deride a folk who may be better than they (are), not let women (deride) women who may be better than they are; neither defame one another, nor insult one another by nicknames. Bad is the name of lewdness after faith. And whoso turneth not in repentance, such are evil-doers."
I take back all the comments I made about your wife. I will still remind you of your beliefs about wife beating though, which has nothing to do with your wife personally!
I am not asking you to change your ways, which I know you will never.
Lets get back to decency. Lets talk positive and in the process benefit from knowledge and understanding.
Salaam and Ya Ali Madad.
Remember this is not a perfect translation
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Actually, there is nothing for me to change. I don't beat my wife. It is Ismaili filth that thinks I do. I don't beat my children. It is Ismaili filth that thinks I do. I actually don't do anything that the Ismaili filth insists I do. So there is nothing for me to change. And it's a good thing you've realized your mistake and have decided to take back everything you've said. Maybe there is still hope for the Ismailis.I am not asking you to change your ways, which I know you will never.
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Dear Pardesi or anyone else
This poetry Quran ki Faryad is being recited by some one, Can you please get that link. It is very powerful in recitation.
This poetry Quran ki Faryad is being recited by some one, Can you please get that link. It is very powerful in recitation.
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Qur'aan ki Fariyaad
Audio here:
http://www.bhatkallys.com/audio/poems/N ... firyad.ram
taqon main sajaya jata hoon
aankhon se lagaya jata hoon
taweez banaya jata hoon
dho dho k pilaya jata hoon
Used to decorate niches, I adorn the niches
They touch me with their eyes pretending to respect me
They make me into an amulet
They wash my verses and drink from them*
juzda(n) hareer-o-resham ke
or phool sitaray chandi ke
phir itr ki barish hoti hai
khushboo may basaya jata hoon
Wrapped in silk
Adorned with silver trinkets
Showered in perfume
Oozing aroma all round
jis terhan tota maina ko
kuch bol sikhai jatai hain
is terha perhaya jata hoon
is terha sikhaya jata hoon
Just as parrots and starlings
Are taught to imitate sounds of a few words
My words, too, are parroted
As that is the way they are taught
jab qol-o-qasam lene k liye
takrar ki nobat aati hai
phir meri zaroorat perti hai
haathon pe uthaya jata hoon
When swearing is used
In competition (who swear most?)
Then, I am invoked
Then, I am handled
dil soz say khali rahtay hain
ankhen hain k nam hoti hi nahin
kahnay ko main ik ik jalsay main
par par kay sunaya jata hoon
With no passion
With lack-luster eyes
Being paid lip-service in every gathering
I am read to be passively heard
neki pay badi ka galba hai
sachhai say barh kar dhoka hai
ik bar hansaya jata hoon
so bar rulaya jata hoon
Good overpowered (enslaved) by evil
Truth often betrayed
I rarely smile
But often I cry
ye mujh se aqeedat k dawe
qanoon pe razi gheron k
yoon bhi mujhe ruswa kertai hain
aise bhi sataya jata hoon
They claim faith in me
But are satisfied with foreign law
Thus they dishonor me
Thus they distress me
kis bazm main mera ziker nahin
kis urs me meri dhoom nahin
phir bhi main akaila rehta hoon
mujh sa koi mazloom nahin
I am remembered in every assembly
I am famed for being in every urs (death anniversary of a Saint)
Even so, I feel alone
There is none more wronged than I
*Practise of writing Quran verses with edible ink on a plate, dissolving it in water and drinking it. (As effective for healing as phook nu pani)
Written by mahir al-qadri
Translated by porus
Audio here:
http://www.bhatkallys.com/audio/poems/N ... firyad.ram
taqon main sajaya jata hoon
aankhon se lagaya jata hoon
taweez banaya jata hoon
dho dho k pilaya jata hoon
Used to decorate niches, I adorn the niches
They touch me with their eyes pretending to respect me
They make me into an amulet
They wash my verses and drink from them*
juzda(n) hareer-o-resham ke
or phool sitaray chandi ke
phir itr ki barish hoti hai
khushboo may basaya jata hoon
Wrapped in silk
Adorned with silver trinkets
Showered in perfume
Oozing aroma all round
jis terhan tota maina ko
kuch bol sikhai jatai hain
is terha perhaya jata hoon
is terha sikhaya jata hoon
Just as parrots and starlings
Are taught to imitate sounds of a few words
My words, too, are parroted
As that is the way they are taught
jab qol-o-qasam lene k liye
takrar ki nobat aati hai
phir meri zaroorat perti hai
haathon pe uthaya jata hoon
When swearing is used
In competition (who swear most?)
Then, I am invoked
Then, I am handled
dil soz say khali rahtay hain
ankhen hain k nam hoti hi nahin
kahnay ko main ik ik jalsay main
par par kay sunaya jata hoon
With no passion
With lack-luster eyes
Being paid lip-service in every gathering
I am read to be passively heard
neki pay badi ka galba hai
sachhai say barh kar dhoka hai
ik bar hansaya jata hoon
so bar rulaya jata hoon
Good overpowered (enslaved) by evil
Truth often betrayed
I rarely smile
But often I cry
ye mujh se aqeedat k dawe
qanoon pe razi gheron k
yoon bhi mujhe ruswa kertai hain
aise bhi sataya jata hoon
They claim faith in me
But are satisfied with foreign law
Thus they dishonor me
Thus they distress me
kis bazm main mera ziker nahin
kis urs me meri dhoom nahin
phir bhi main akaila rehta hoon
mujh sa koi mazloom nahin
I am remembered in every assembly
I am famed for being in every urs (death anniversary of a Saint)
Even so, I feel alone
There is none more wronged than I
*Practise of writing Quran verses with edible ink on a plate, dissolving it in water and drinking it. (As effective for healing as phook nu pani)
Written by mahir al-qadri
Translated by porus
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Pardesi, dont believe any thug who tells you " men lower" their gaze when they see a Burqa clad woman. Hey first of all who knows there may be a Man inside that walking shroud, secondly, i have heard quite a few of these thugs mention undressing these "burqa" clad women with their eyes and imagination....so when any thugs says otherwise, is actually lying. And more than probably guilty of debauchery. Sexual assaults in their community happens IN their own homes. This is a FACT.
This idiot thinks that HIS burqa clad women dont draw attention,then he is more stupid than we think. i personally know of some..ah well leave it for another day. there is so much hypocrisy there, you wouldnt believe it. And besides Burqas here in Toronto quite handily hide scars and bruises. I have seen them. so let the retard whine all he wants.
This idiot thinks that HIS burqa clad women dont draw attention,then he is more stupid than we think. i personally know of some..ah well leave it for another day. there is so much hypocrisy there, you wouldnt believe it. And besides Burqas here in Toronto quite handily hide scars and bruises. I have seen them. so let the retard whine all he wants.
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Dont get defensive there buddy..we all know you do all that thumping. You are a "good" Sunni/wahhabi/Salafi/Deobandhi Mureed, and you follow all that is "hadithically" prescribed to you like keeping your women downtrodden and all, so shut up and face the music when you provoke others.Originally posted by anajmi:
Actually, there is nothing for me to change. I don't beat my wife. It is Ismaili filth that thinks I do. I don't beat my children. It is Ismaili filth that thinks I do. I actually don't do anything that the Ismaili filth insists I do. So there is nothing for me to change. And it's a good thing you've realized your mistake and have decided to take back everything you've said. Maybe there is still hope for the Ismailis.I am not asking you to change your ways, which I know you will never.
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