Burhani Expo 2009 officially inaugurated

[mutmaeen]

just because a nhendi bazaar hair dresser or a deobandi feels bohras are non muslims it does nt mean we nned to prove anything to them-till the recent past the sunnis refused to acknowledge shias collectively as muslims-so what?

[S. Insaf]

Dear brother mutmaeen,

Those who believe in peaceful co-existence do think about their neighborhood, do not antagonize acquaintances for sake of strange beliefs and costumes.
We, as Dawoodi Bohras are part of Islamic world. In communal riots and onslaught on Muslim Dawoodi Bohras suffer more because of their oblivious outlook. They are not spared because they are Dawoodi Bohra and not Muslims, or because their Sayedna donates crores of rupees to hard-core Hindutwa leaders like Modi or Balthakrey.

We need to check the growing arrogance of so-called princes, Amils and Burhani Guard and Burhani Scout members who do not have respect even for Mazoon-e-Dawat.

Remember you take pride in being the followers of “Ambassador of Peace” and a “Humane at Heart”.

[SBM]

just because a nhendi bazaar hair dresser or a deobandi feels bohras are non muslims it does nt mean we nned to prove anything to them-till the recent past the sunnis refused to acknowledge shias collectively as muslims-so what?

Mutameen
Yes it does matter, if the rumors of Dawoodi Bohras are not Muslim gets spread then we will meet the same fate as Ahmadiyas or Qadiyanis. For long time they were considered as Muslims and were allowed to visit Makkah and Medina and since they have been declared Non Muslims, they are no longer allowed to perform Umrah or Hajj,that can happen to Dawoodi Bohras too, remember Kothar has not been able to bribe Saudi as of yet unlike Bal Thackrey and others so it does matter. Dawoodi Bohrars are minuscule numbers compared to total number of Muslims and unlike Ahmadiyas who have produced Scientist like Noble Lauret Dr. Salaam and Nuclear Scientist Dr. Qadir (both from Pakistan) and are still being discriminated.

[mutmaeen]

thge basic tenets of dawoodi-bohras are very much islamic and so we neednt worry about a stray deobandi or hair dresser of bhendi bazaar-its ridiculous to think of dawoodi bohras as being non muslims as those espousing suicide bombing are considered very much muslims

[accountability]

Your analogy is wrong, hair dresser did not say that we are not muslims, he was outraged because bohras have insulted his revered personalities or attacked his religion. AS I said, i was staying in Zainabia, a shia imam bargah, they too had very negative views about us, also in Pakistan Shia ulema are very critical of bohras. Mian stream shia ulema dont consider us shia. Their attitude to bohras is worse than towards ismailis.

Sunnis are a bit linient towards us than shias. But if you keep on hitting the same rock, they might one day become anitgonistic.

We do follow islam in namaz, roza, zakat and hajj, but their discharge is not according to main stream islam. Zakat for example is collected by jamat, but it is never used for the purposes it in intended for in quran. Namaz as we pray contradicts the basic concept of equality in islam. Accordingly in namaz bohras have created classes. Elite and priviliged ones get to be in front rows, though they are not always the first comers.

Hajj as you all know, the performance of hajj by bohras is very deviant from main islam. Bohras do not follow the tenet as prescribed in main stream islam rather they follow their own ritual. They defeat the purpose of hajj for muslim unity by not following basic main stream tenets.

[hypocritebohra]

Brother Accountablity
To add to your post Bohras commit the greatest sin in Islam which is Shirq doing Sajdaa to Sayedna Saheb and chanting Sajdaa Tujhe Waajib Hai is the greatest of all sins in Islam
Sajdaa is ony and only to Allah and any person doing it another , or the other person allowing it to be done to them are greatest siinners .
Moreover equating Sayedna Saheb with Haqquiqui Kaba and equating his deedar to Haj do mainstream Bohras still delude themselves that they are Muslims?

[Maqbool]

omabharti wrote
“and since they have been declared Non Muslims, they are no longer allowed to perform Umrah or Hajj,that can happen to Dawoodi Bohras too,”

This is what they are looking for. If bohras are banned to visit hajj, it will be a benefit to the kothar. They will force all the bohras to perform hajj by visiting sayedna, and another money making shop will be established.