Mojizas of Burhanudin Saab.
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Re: Mojizas of Burhanudin Saab.
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It's not Shk Mustafa Dahodwala but Shk Murtaza (Origimally Ashraf) Dahodwala. His wife Dr. Shamim (I forgot her new name) is doing well and her Cancer is in remisson.
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It's not Shk Mustafa Dahodwala but Shk Murtaza (Origimally Ashraf) Dahodwala. His wife Dr. Shamim (I forgot her new name) is doing well and her Cancer is in remisson.
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Re: Mojizas of Burhanudin Saab.
Bro Muslim First,
You are correct, his name is Murtuza and his wife has been rechristened Lamiya by Burhanudin saab. Iam not aware of her current health status but she definately had been diagonised for cancer. Murtuza's brother is married to a jew and for quite some time she had not converted to bohraism, maybe now she would have adopted the bohra religion on pressure from kothar.
You are correct, his name is Murtuza and his wife has been rechristened Lamiya by Burhanudin saab. Iam not aware of her current health status but she definately had been diagonised for cancer. Murtuza's brother is married to a jew and for quite some time she had not converted to bohraism, maybe now she would have adopted the bohra religion on pressure from kothar.
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His brother lives is Coral Springs Florida and has never attended any Markaz in Florida, there are two in Florida one in Tampa and one in Ft. Lauderdale as per my information. I was told that he turned down a request by local Aamil in Ft. Lauderdale to come to Markaz. He is involved in Health care field and had a nice contract in supplying Diagnostic Equipments to Saifyee Hospital in Mumbai.
Re: Mojizas of Burhanudin Saab.
Following interview of Dr Joozer Rangwala, Bhavnagar, by Mudar Patherya:
I am a physician and in mid 2008, I was to migrate to Al Jubal in Saudi
Arabia. I had received my visa and work permit; all that I now required
was Aqa Maula's raza, which I felt would only be a formality.
Surprisingly, he said no.
Here I was, with a letter of appointment in hand, a visible career
enhancement opportunity and Aqa Maula was saying `no raza'. I was
deeply disappointed.
Coincidentally, Huzurala was in Ahmedabad on 17 June and I got the
opportunity for qadambosi. During that interaction, Huzurala asked me
what I did. I answered `Physician'. Huzurala asked if I had my own
clinic. I said yes. Dr Moizbhaisaheb presented all my relevant details
to Huzurala, about how I had a job offer and how Huzurala had refused
raza to leave.
After I had finished my salaam and was about to leave, Huzurala suddenly
asked, "Bawaji chhey?"
And then it struck me…. If I had migrated to Al Jubal, my 70-year old
mother would have been completely isolated and would have had to live
alone until I could have arranged for her transfer.
Since the Al Jubal job did not materialize, I had no option but to
circulate my CV afresh. Around 21 days later, I got a call from
Wockhardt, asking if I would be keen to join its health care facility in
Bhavnagar. Within two months I was on.
I am now completely in charge of the Wockhardt facility in Bhavnagar and
looking back, I feel that this job is not only more challenging but also
more resume-enriching as it involves enhanced accountability across a
wider range of responsibilities in a corporate environment (as opposed
to a standalone facility).
The amazing thing is that I, with my industry experience, could not see
this and Huzurala with his distance could!
Here we go again: SEE THE COLORED QUOTES
If Syedna knew he was a physician and did not give RAZA why DID HE ASK WHAT HE DID (1ST MOJIZA)
then he asked "BAWAJI CHEY" and the doctor had mother (I suppose Syedna did not understand
the difference between BAWAJI and MAAJI) since doctor mentions about his mother and not BAWAJI
WHAT A PACK OF LIES AND MAKE UP STORIES
I am a physician and in mid 2008, I was to migrate to Al Jubal in Saudi
Arabia. I had received my visa and work permit; all that I now required
was Aqa Maula's raza, which I felt would only be a formality.
Surprisingly, he said no.
Here I was, with a letter of appointment in hand, a visible career
enhancement opportunity and Aqa Maula was saying `no raza'. I was
deeply disappointed.
Coincidentally, Huzurala was in Ahmedabad on 17 June and I got the
opportunity for qadambosi. During that interaction, Huzurala asked me
what I did. I answered `Physician'. Huzurala asked if I had my own
clinic. I said yes. Dr Moizbhaisaheb presented all my relevant details
to Huzurala, about how I had a job offer and how Huzurala had refused
raza to leave.
After I had finished my salaam and was about to leave, Huzurala suddenly
asked, "Bawaji chhey?"
And then it struck me…. If I had migrated to Al Jubal, my 70-year old
mother would have been completely isolated and would have had to live
alone until I could have arranged for her transfer.
Since the Al Jubal job did not materialize, I had no option but to
circulate my CV afresh. Around 21 days later, I got a call from
Wockhardt, asking if I would be keen to join its health care facility in
Bhavnagar. Within two months I was on.
I am now completely in charge of the Wockhardt facility in Bhavnagar and
looking back, I feel that this job is not only more challenging but also
more resume-enriching as it involves enhanced accountability across a
wider range of responsibilities in a corporate environment (as opposed
to a standalone facility).
The amazing thing is that I, with my industry experience, could not see
this and Huzurala with his distance could!
Here we go again: SEE THE COLORED QUOTES
If Syedna knew he was a physician and did not give RAZA why DID HE ASK WHAT HE DID (1ST MOJIZA)
then he asked "BAWAJI CHEY" and the doctor had mother (I suppose Syedna did not understand
the difference between BAWAJI and MAAJI) since doctor mentions about his mother and not BAWAJI
WHAT A PACK OF LIES AND MAKE UP STORIES
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Fully agreed!!
There are NO mojeazas, just Stories, made up and thats why they have flaws.
May be Kothar needs to hire any writer/director from Hollywood or Bollywood, currently their stories seem to be written by staff from Lollywood
There are NO mojeazas, just Stories, made up and thats why they have flaws.
May be Kothar needs to hire any writer/director from Hollywood or Bollywood, currently their stories seem to be written by staff from Lollywood

Re: Mojizas of Burhanudin Saab.
From Malumaat Message Board
A MUMIN DOCTOR IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR SYEDNA? what a piece of c**p.
On a Second Thought this Mudar Patherya should be MURDAR P.for making up the stories for dumb brainwashed Abdes.
THEN HOW COME SYEDNA GOES TO GERMANY, HE SHOULD BE GOING TO THIS DOCTOR SHAKIR VALI.Following interview of Dr. Shakir S. Vali, Sharjah, by Mudar Patherya:
This anecdote dates back to 1988 when one of my patients was in acute pain.
Gangrene had spread; the legs and hands had blackened. He went to Mumbai to seek
specialist opinion and experimented different therapies. He tried the Russian
magnetic therapy, which made him worse; he tried hydrotherapy, which blackened
the legs and hands further. The collective verdict: amputation from the ankle
downwards across both legs and in the right hand from the wrist onwards.
This seemed like the final say except for one detail. The muminbhai decided in
his gloom to turn to Aqa Maula. Aqa Maula asked for the bandages to be unpeeled
across both legs and hands. When they were opened they were not only completely
black but also smelling rotten.
Maula took a look at the rotting limbs and conferred shifaa. The muminbhai
requested for treatment raza by me. Huzurala replied: "Dr Shakir paase ilaaj
karaavo. Maari dua chhey. Tamne shifa kulliyat thaase."
Thaase! That one word was a beacon of hope with which this mumin patient came to
my clinic in Sharjah with Shaikh Taherbhai Saasa and Shaikh Shabbirbhai Taheri.
Coincidentally, a British surgeon was with me when the bandages were opened; the
room was filled with the pungent stench of dead tissues. Shaikh Shabbirbhai
almost lost his balance; Shaikh Taherbhai left the room immediately. The British
surgeon's verdict: immediate surgery and amputation. I now turned to the
muminbhai for Huzurala's prognosis. He repeated: "Tamne shifa kulliyat thaase!"
I set about to work. I suggested cleaning the arms and legs with hot water and
applying a bandage of shehed (honey), a highly unusual treatment. Here on the
one hand we were talking of surgery; now on the other I was recommending
something as facile as honey. His wife and children objected; they felt that I
was trivialising the issue. I asked them to have faith in the power that had got
them to me.
And so started an enduring routine. For a month-and-a-half, I kept cleaning and
applying fresh bandage, I kept cleaning and applying fresh bandage.
Within three months, a man who should have been on crutches for the rest of his
life, walked out of my chamber with no bandages – or worries.
It wasn't a doctor; it was dua that did it.
A MUMIN DOCTOR IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR SYEDNA? what a piece of c**p.
On a Second Thought this Mudar Patherya should be MURDAR P.for making up the stories for dumb brainwashed Abdes.
Re: Mojizas of Burhanudin Saab.
Being part of Health Care Professional, let me point out the stupidity in the whole Mojiza
If one has developed Gangrene, just cleaning and changing the bandage does not cut it. No where it says
it used any medical ointments to prevent infection. Anyone who develops Gangrene, the only alternative
is amputation and not a LULLABY STORY OF CHANGING BANDAGE EVERYDAY.
ONCE AGAIN IT SEEMS THAT THIS DOCTOR MUST HAVE GONE TO A JAMIYAH TO GET HIS DEGREE
If one has developed Gangrene, just cleaning and changing the bandage does not cut it. No where it says
it used any medical ointments to prevent infection. Anyone who develops Gangrene, the only alternative
is amputation and not a LULLABY STORY OF CHANGING BANDAGE EVERYDAY.
ONCE AGAIN IT SEEMS THAT THIS DOCTOR MUST HAVE GONE TO A JAMIYAH TO GET HIS DEGREE

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Br. Dr. OB
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Do you believe in power of prayer?
Can your family, friends, scholars etc. pray for Shifaa (to Allah SWT) for you?
I happen to believe in modern medicine and surgical advances and have benefited from it. In fact my present state of life is miracle of modern medicine, surgery and Implants. I believe, beside great Doctors and surgeons some other factors (Allah SWT) was responsible for my personal Mojiza. I wonder who puts skills in the hands of surgeons. Who inspires and guide scientist and makers of implantable machinery to invent modern miracles. I believe it is cosmic power we know as Allah SWT.
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Do you believe in power of prayer?
Can your family, friends, scholars etc. pray for Shifaa (to Allah SWT) for you?
I happen to believe in modern medicine and surgical advances and have benefited from it. In fact my present state of life is miracle of modern medicine, surgery and Implants. I believe, beside great Doctors and surgeons some other factors (Allah SWT) was responsible for my personal Mojiza. I wonder who puts skills in the hands of surgeons. Who inspires and guide scientist and makers of implantable machinery to invent modern miracles. I believe it is cosmic power we know as Allah SWT.
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Dear Br MF
Yes I do believe in power of prayers and as a matter of fact American Medical Association has incorporated Religious counseling and rites into patient's care. For a long time AMA and others did not believe in prayers but now some Medical Colleges include
those in their curriculum.
But in the case of the above Post regarding Gangrene, the doctor applied HONEY to the wound, Honey does have therapeutic benefits, preventing and curing infection in NOT one of them. Can you imagine some one applying Sugery syrup to your wound and make it more sticky, Wounds can heal if they are dry. My posting only refers to this MOJIZA by Dr. Vali and not against
Prayers and Duas
Yes I do believe in power of prayers and as a matter of fact American Medical Association has incorporated Religious counseling and rites into patient's care. For a long time AMA and others did not believe in prayers but now some Medical Colleges include
those in their curriculum.
But in the case of the above Post regarding Gangrene, the doctor applied HONEY to the wound, Honey does have therapeutic benefits, preventing and curing infection in NOT one of them. Can you imagine some one applying Sugery syrup to your wound and make it more sticky, Wounds can heal if they are dry. My posting only refers to this MOJIZA by Dr. Vali and not against
Prayers and Duas
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the crap about dr. shakir vali and that unbelievably apocryphal story of healing that gangreneous patient needs to be put into proper perspective.
1. shakir vali is a very wealthy man, yet i have never heard him providing free treatment for any poor people, bohras or otherwise. he is a well-known blind sycophant of the syedna and a story like this emanating from him, is suspect. he is the type of employer who screws both his staff and his patients. i have known him and many of his bohra employees since a long time. he has a high staff turnover, due to his record of paying low salaries and demanding 200% in return.
2. taherbhai saasa is a well known rangeela, who has married several young women and divorced them when he tired of them. many of these nikaahs were performed at the hands of the syedna, inspite of the syedna knowing all about his predilections.
3. shabbir taheri's entire business career is based on fraud and deception. he was a manager with one hamzabhai colombowala about 30-35 years back in dubai. hamzabhai was at one time a very prominent trader and indentor in dubai, living a very high life. several of his business dealings went sour and he had to flee overnight with his entire family. when there was a huge hue and cry at their disappearance, the police immediately sealed all his properties, warehouse, villa and seized the contents, luckily for shabbir taheri, they overlooked a third party warehouse, where there was a huge stock of steel and building materials. after the uproar died down, shabbir taheri quietly and with apparently forged documents sold off this entire stock and pocketed the money! that was the beginning of his own business and its foundation. no doubt he is a shrewd operator and a very convincing talker etc. who has now gone to great heights, but nevertheless a crook and today an indispensable aide to kothar in dubai!
now you decide how much credibility these ponga sheikhs have and what dropping their names here means.
as for the ridiculous treatment of applying honey soaked bandages on the gangrene, one has to understand that gangrene is usually always caused either by injuries to severely diabetic people or due to frostbite, when the body, esp. the extremities are exposed to severe cold for long periods leading to lack of blood supply to healthy tissues, or 'crushing' accidents, when blood clots can form and when the vascular system is impaired or shuts down in those areas. this is followed by death of healthy tissue and subsequent rotting of flesh and bones. applying honey to such areas is like putting band-aid over cancerous tissue, in fact even worse, as the sugar will hasten the rot!
perhaps shakir vali is lobbying on behalf of several interest groups. the honey producers, the arabs who love honey as a tradition, the kothar who will maybe give him an MKD and send him more patients and the sharjah jamat.
someone should report this to the UAE min. of health, quoting the malaaumat report for further investigation!!
1. shakir vali is a very wealthy man, yet i have never heard him providing free treatment for any poor people, bohras or otherwise. he is a well-known blind sycophant of the syedna and a story like this emanating from him, is suspect. he is the type of employer who screws both his staff and his patients. i have known him and many of his bohra employees since a long time. he has a high staff turnover, due to his record of paying low salaries and demanding 200% in return.
2. taherbhai saasa is a well known rangeela, who has married several young women and divorced them when he tired of them. many of these nikaahs were performed at the hands of the syedna, inspite of the syedna knowing all about his predilections.
3. shabbir taheri's entire business career is based on fraud and deception. he was a manager with one hamzabhai colombowala about 30-35 years back in dubai. hamzabhai was at one time a very prominent trader and indentor in dubai, living a very high life. several of his business dealings went sour and he had to flee overnight with his entire family. when there was a huge hue and cry at their disappearance, the police immediately sealed all his properties, warehouse, villa and seized the contents, luckily for shabbir taheri, they overlooked a third party warehouse, where there was a huge stock of steel and building materials. after the uproar died down, shabbir taheri quietly and with apparently forged documents sold off this entire stock and pocketed the money! that was the beginning of his own business and its foundation. no doubt he is a shrewd operator and a very convincing talker etc. who has now gone to great heights, but nevertheless a crook and today an indispensable aide to kothar in dubai!
now you decide how much credibility these ponga sheikhs have and what dropping their names here means.
as for the ridiculous treatment of applying honey soaked bandages on the gangrene, one has to understand that gangrene is usually always caused either by injuries to severely diabetic people or due to frostbite, when the body, esp. the extremities are exposed to severe cold for long periods leading to lack of blood supply to healthy tissues, or 'crushing' accidents, when blood clots can form and when the vascular system is impaired or shuts down in those areas. this is followed by death of healthy tissue and subsequent rotting of flesh and bones. applying honey to such areas is like putting band-aid over cancerous tissue, in fact even worse, as the sugar will hasten the rot!
perhaps shakir vali is lobbying on behalf of several interest groups. the honey producers, the arabs who love honey as a tradition, the kothar who will maybe give him an MKD and send him more patients and the sharjah jamat.
someone should report this to the UAE min. of health, quoting the malaaumat report for further investigation!!
Re: Mojizas of Burhanudin Saab.
Gud one br. AZ.. Thanks for showing us the true colors of these cheap people. But let me tell you one thing. The biggest moziza out here is that inspite of all this true stories the abde's will not believe you. They will still consider this as a true moziza of his holiness Syedna Burhanuddin. Even if you will present these true stories with all the proof in the world the abdes will think that you are lying. Now that is what I call the real moziza of syedna...
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agreed that in the present time, majority of bohras are brainwashed and afraid to speak up.Aarif wrote:Gud one br. AZ.. Thanks for showing us the true colors of these cheap people. But let me tell you one thing. The biggest moziza out here is that inspite of all this true stories the abde's will not believe you. They will still consider this as a true moziza of his holiness Syedna Burhanuddin. Even if you will present these true stories with all the proof in the world the abdes will think that you are lying. Now that is what I call the real moziza of syedna...
but even if 90% of the world cannot understand a scientist like stephen hawking, then does that affect him? does stephen hawking care? does it reduce his awesome standing? similarly, in his own lifetime, the prophet muhammad was reviled and dismissed as a pretender, did that deter him?
the bohras are an absolutely miniscule segment of muslims who have been fed clever lies that only they are the chosen and the rest are all kafirs and that their dai is a supernatural being almost akin to allah, does the rest of the world really care? do i care?
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i'm isna shari shia n married to a bohri guy since 15 years.all i observed is that islam is too far from this community .they r not allowed to read translation of quran can't hold quran kuwani at thr places widout thr mallahs permission .either u do majlis or any religious function ,permission from mallahs r required.they r not suppose to ask any question all they just follow no matter if it is illogical.they have to do wht they have told .female circumcission is one of the main practice in thr community n 99% women doesn't even know why this practice is pervailing in thr community.they don have any concept of tabligue .they hide thr activities so that they wont be answerable to others.so far all i can say bohri ppl r meant for good food n fancy works .thats wht all i found in 15 years.hypocracy n blind faith is the imaan of bohra community .they don't have belief in thm selves thats the reason they restrict thr ppl n don't allow thm to visit others religious functions.women as compared to men r more blind n rigid towards thr believes.i have only one request to this community ppl that why dont thr mallahs come ffwd n debate wid others like ahle sunnat n fike jaferia scholars n prove that they r on the rite path n i think if this things wll occur i wud definately call it a big mojeza.initially i had a thought that bohra n isna shari have minor diff.but whn i got married n whn i closely observe thm i found ahle sunnat that is hanafi firka n fike jaferia is closer n bohra's r tooo far.they know all the urs n baree raaat but they dont know the birth date of imam Hassan(AS) n imam Hussain(AS).they only speak fazail of thr mallahs n the mollas present one n past one .but hardly they know the fazail of panjtan pak n ahlebait tahereen.religiously i didnt find any impressive things among these ppl.all i can say that Almighty Allah give thm marfat so that they atleast start searching for the things they r doing blindly.(GOD HELP THOSE WHO HELP THMSELVES)
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Hello, mass:
Your observations are 100% correct. May I add a little more.
We have to ask permission (raza) of the amil or his master (maulana) for evrything and every occasion, e.g. if I wish to go for further studies to become a doctor, I shall ask permission of the maula and if he refuses then I do not go. A few years ago, I had to undergo a major operation and I was reprimanded by our local amil and a couple of his aides for not obtaining "aqa maula's" prior raza. I was also reprimanded and almost excommunicated for not obtaining a "paak" name for our newborn from the maula.
We do not only not know our religious and cultural history, but also we have become so ignorant that we do not know our own family history. Most Bohras will be able to tell you their father and grandfather's names only- we cannot tell you who our great, great grand fathers were or where they are originally from. Our surnames are often changed by our "shafiq bawa". I know of three brothers each of whom has a different last name- imagine after a couple of generations whether their offsprings will know their cousins/relatives!
And yes we are all afraid. My relatives are always telling me to hold my tongue, otherwise I and my wife may not care but they have to remain in the community and because of our intransigence, they will suffer through no fault of theirs, etc., etc.
Your observations are 100% correct. May I add a little more.
We have to ask permission (raza) of the amil or his master (maulana) for evrything and every occasion, e.g. if I wish to go for further studies to become a doctor, I shall ask permission of the maula and if he refuses then I do not go. A few years ago, I had to undergo a major operation and I was reprimanded by our local amil and a couple of his aides for not obtaining "aqa maula's" prior raza. I was also reprimanded and almost excommunicated for not obtaining a "paak" name for our newborn from the maula.
We do not only not know our religious and cultural history, but also we have become so ignorant that we do not know our own family history. Most Bohras will be able to tell you their father and grandfather's names only- we cannot tell you who our great, great grand fathers were or where they are originally from. Our surnames are often changed by our "shafiq bawa". I know of three brothers each of whom has a different last name- imagine after a couple of generations whether their offsprings will know their cousins/relatives!
And yes we are all afraid. My relatives are always telling me to hold my tongue, otherwise I and my wife may not care but they have to remain in the community and because of our intransigence, they will suffer through no fault of theirs, etc., etc.
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ghulam muhammed wrote:
Following interview of Bahen Jumana Vasi, Dubai, by Sakina Sh Noman
Miyajiwala and Mudar Patherya
I was 18, carefree, rebellious, outgoing and member of the Ithna Ashara
sect when I met Saifuddin Vasi at Teheran in 1969. We married a year
later following my ritualistic misaaq. I will be honest; I did not
believe in it. We stayed in Iran for three years; during this period, a
number of people impressed upon me the teachings of the Dawoodi Bohra
faith including Syedi Mazoon e Dawat, who advised my husband to move out
of Iran as there was no mumineen environment in that country to nurse my
faith. We moved to Dubai in 1973.
Saifuddin and I went to Huzurala immediately after. Even before either
of us had even spoken a word, he looked up and said, “Hu tamara khwab ma
aayo hatho ne? Hawe tamne kai shaq chhey? Hawe to tamne shaq nathi ne?”
My first reaction: I wept. Not wept, sobbed. Not sobbed, but put my head
on his qadam and purged myself emotionally. I could hear people saying
‘Su karo chho, behen?’, ‘Utho, behen!’ and ‘Aam na thai, behen’ but
Huzurala asked them to let things be. ‘Ehne rehva dav’, I heard him say.
When I looked up, others around me in Saifee Mahal were fishing for
their handkerchiefs. Maula asked my daughter’s name. I replied
‘Tasneem’. He replied: “Naam baraaber chhey”. Huzurala then instructed
Shaikh Ebrahim Yamani to record my dream for the benefit of the daawat
archives. On the following day, Syedi Mazoon Saheb told us that Huzurala
had mentioned my dream and my ‘ikhlaas’ over thaal.
Since that day in January 1974, I have been a devout believer.
--
Sakina
i have known both this lady and her husband saifuddin vasi quite well in dubai for a number of years. my wife and Jumana had many common friends and met often. this lady is absolutely cuckoo and is a housewife, i.e. not professionally employed, so she has plenty of time on her hands to write shayaris in praise of mazoonsaab, of whom she is a passionate fan and syedna. i have read some of her shayaris which are liberally interspersed with farsi and urdu words in the dawaat ni zaban. this of course lends a certain credence to the poetry, but honestly it is all sound and fury signifying nothing. there is no substance and over-the-top hyped up praise, as it prevails in ghanu jeevo, etc.
many of the sentiments and attributes she mentions are ludicrous and make u cringe when u hear them.
her husband saifuddin vasi is himself a great abde and both husband and wife peddle this so-called mojiza for all its worth and derive great pride when everyone acknowledges them.. jumana is known to cook exotic persian/bohri food at home and take it to the syedna whenever he is in dubai and personally stand there and serve him at meal times. such is her fervour. many in my circle of friends there privately think she is loco and not all up there... besides, for all her staunch beliefs, why doesnt she question the fact that the syedna or his family males allow her, a stranger and non-mehram to bare her face in front of them??
so far all the comical mojizas i have read here or have heard about in my life about the syedna, all involve highly gullible, impressionable and madly fanatic bohras, who will see a mojiza even when a cow farts! most of them strain yr logic, intellect and common sense.
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If Moula could come in their dream why did not he knew his daughter's name(the shezadas who was supposed to tell him forgot and should be debarred from Shezadagiri). Abdes are not allowed their children's name without Moula's RazaMaula asked my daughter’s name
Another piece of crap...
Re: Mojizas of Burhanudin Saab.
Interviews with people whose lives have been touched by the grace of
Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb, TUS
Following interview of Shaikh Yusufbhai Muchhala, Mumbai, by Mudar Patherya
The moral of my story is `Ad-Dai yanzoro be noorillah! A Dai sees with
the light of Allah.
My 50-year old story showcases this belief system. In the late Fifties,
I was approached by a certain Tasadduq Husain, a mumin resident of a
small town called Satana, deep inside Maharashtra. He had a grave
problem: he was a petty kirana trader with a fiduciary relationship with
a local bania. As soon as he stopped buying, the bania claimed that the
muminbhai owed him Rs 10,000, which formed the basis of a suit filed in
the Satana court. The first round of legal proceedings went against the
mumin bhai; he took Huzurala's raza mubaraka before filing an appeal in
the Bombay High Court. Huzurala asked Tasadduqbhai to maano nazrul
maqaam and file the appeal at a certain hour on a certain date;
Tasadduqbhai did so by putting his right foot inside the court at the
appointed minute.
However, we did not enjoy an access to critical documents pertaining to
the judgment, making it difficult to get to the heart of the reality.
Tasadduq Husainbhai went again to Huzurala for direction; he was firmly
advised to proceed. Even though we were on a weak wicket, we decided to
make the best of the circumstances. We translated the Marathi of the
proceedings into English for enhanced clarity. Immediately, we
discovered an opportunity; there were a number of loopholes around which
we structured our defense.
We ran into yet another problem. Tasadduq Husainbhai, we now discovered,
had no financial means to sustain his defense. He could not hope to get
a stay of the execution of the money decree unless he, as an appellant,
first deposited the money awarded under the decree – Rs 10,000 – with
the court. But Tasadduqbhai confessed: `Maara si nahi baney'.
So I did what any reasonable lawyer would - suggested an out of court
settlement with the raza mubaraka of Huzurala. Tasadduqbhai was slightly
nervous when he asked me to accompany him for raza. Based on the
realities, I did a brief araz, covering the salient points of the case,
the cost of sustained litigation, Tasadduqbhai' s financial condition and
my recommendation of a settlement.
I remember vividly: we were standing in front of Huzurala and suddenly
he paused….we thought he was going to say something…he never spoke…we
felt that perhaps we had not conveyed ourselves audibly enough…he
sustained the silence as if in communion with another power… then 45
seconds later – an eternity if you have been in Huzurala's presence – he
looked up and asked Tasadduq Husain whether he would be able to bear the
cost of litigation. Suddenly, Tasadduq Husainbhai summoned up the kind
of courage he had never shown until that point, and said: "Maula, aap
raza aapso to mein paisa no bandobust karees." Once again, Huzurala
appeared to be deeply immersed in thought and then said with a rare
vocal emphasis "Aagal wadho!" I was slightly taken aback at the emphasis
and the advice, which were counter to what I had been advising from a
legal standpoint.
And so we proceeded. Now came the question of raising the Rs 10,000. We
had to raise the funds upfront. But the judge DB Patel – by reputation a
martinet - thundered: "In the event of your client losing the case, he
will have to pay interest on the decretal amount from the date of the
suit!" We couldn't believe our ears. The judge was actually telling us
that we did not need to pay the full amount! This was unprecedented; I
studied the records and can state that this was probably the only
instance since 1862 when the execution of the money decree was stayed by
the Bombay High Court. Our first response was a hurried "Yes, m'lord"
and the case resumed.
In fact, the case rolled on for a couple of years. Each time
Tasadduqbhai would go for dua, Huzurala would smile. One day, Huzurala
told him, `Khuda taala tamne fateh aapey!' The following day in 1970,
judge GN Vaidya set the matter aside and Tasadduq Husainbhai was
relieved of the financial claim.
As it turned out, Tasadduq Husainbhai's destiny transformed dramatically
thereafter. He became a man of means, grew his business, acquired
property; on the other hand, the bania was reportedly wiped out and left
town.
The interesting note is case as told by Mr Yusuf Muchala, the case was started in late fiftees, and result came in 1970, this means it took nearly 10-12 years to give judgement for a case of Rs 10,000. There would be Mozija if the the person got the hearing in his favour in first trial only, and the funny part is in 10 years what amount of fees must have been paid by the person to the lawyer.
Also, when the When the lawyer tells to Moula that the person doesnot have Rs 10,000 to pay as a decree, then why Moula didn't helped that person for the amount required by him.
Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb, TUS
Following interview of Shaikh Yusufbhai Muchhala, Mumbai, by Mudar Patherya
The moral of my story is `Ad-Dai yanzoro be noorillah! A Dai sees with
the light of Allah.
My 50-year old story showcases this belief system. In the late Fifties,
I was approached by a certain Tasadduq Husain, a mumin resident of a
small town called Satana, deep inside Maharashtra. He had a grave
problem: he was a petty kirana trader with a fiduciary relationship with
a local bania. As soon as he stopped buying, the bania claimed that the
muminbhai owed him Rs 10,000, which formed the basis of a suit filed in
the Satana court. The first round of legal proceedings went against the
mumin bhai; he took Huzurala's raza mubaraka before filing an appeal in
the Bombay High Court. Huzurala asked Tasadduqbhai to maano nazrul
maqaam and file the appeal at a certain hour on a certain date;
Tasadduqbhai did so by putting his right foot inside the court at the
appointed minute.
However, we did not enjoy an access to critical documents pertaining to
the judgment, making it difficult to get to the heart of the reality.
Tasadduq Husainbhai went again to Huzurala for direction; he was firmly
advised to proceed. Even though we were on a weak wicket, we decided to
make the best of the circumstances. We translated the Marathi of the
proceedings into English for enhanced clarity. Immediately, we
discovered an opportunity; there were a number of loopholes around which
we structured our defense.
We ran into yet another problem. Tasadduq Husainbhai, we now discovered,
had no financial means to sustain his defense. He could not hope to get
a stay of the execution of the money decree unless he, as an appellant,
first deposited the money awarded under the decree – Rs 10,000 – with
the court. But Tasadduqbhai confessed: `Maara si nahi baney'.
So I did what any reasonable lawyer would - suggested an out of court
settlement with the raza mubaraka of Huzurala. Tasadduqbhai was slightly
nervous when he asked me to accompany him for raza. Based on the
realities, I did a brief araz, covering the salient points of the case,
the cost of sustained litigation, Tasadduqbhai' s financial condition and
my recommendation of a settlement.
I remember vividly: we were standing in front of Huzurala and suddenly
he paused….we thought he was going to say something…he never spoke…we
felt that perhaps we had not conveyed ourselves audibly enough…he
sustained the silence as if in communion with another power… then 45
seconds later – an eternity if you have been in Huzurala's presence – he
looked up and asked Tasadduq Husain whether he would be able to bear the
cost of litigation. Suddenly, Tasadduq Husainbhai summoned up the kind
of courage he had never shown until that point, and said: "Maula, aap
raza aapso to mein paisa no bandobust karees." Once again, Huzurala
appeared to be deeply immersed in thought and then said with a rare
vocal emphasis "Aagal wadho!" I was slightly taken aback at the emphasis
and the advice, which were counter to what I had been advising from a
legal standpoint.
And so we proceeded. Now came the question of raising the Rs 10,000. We
had to raise the funds upfront. But the judge DB Patel – by reputation a
martinet - thundered: "In the event of your client losing the case, he
will have to pay interest on the decretal amount from the date of the
suit!" We couldn't believe our ears. The judge was actually telling us
that we did not need to pay the full amount! This was unprecedented; I
studied the records and can state that this was probably the only
instance since 1862 when the execution of the money decree was stayed by
the Bombay High Court. Our first response was a hurried "Yes, m'lord"
and the case resumed.
In fact, the case rolled on for a couple of years. Each time
Tasadduqbhai would go for dua, Huzurala would smile. One day, Huzurala
told him, `Khuda taala tamne fateh aapey!' The following day in 1970,
judge GN Vaidya set the matter aside and Tasadduq Husainbhai was
relieved of the financial claim.
As it turned out, Tasadduq Husainbhai's destiny transformed dramatically
thereafter. He became a man of means, grew his business, acquired
property; on the other hand, the bania was reportedly wiped out and left
town.
The interesting note is case as told by Mr Yusuf Muchala, the case was started in late fiftees, and result came in 1970, this means it took nearly 10-12 years to give judgement for a case of Rs 10,000. There would be Mozija if the the person got the hearing in his favour in first trial only, and the funny part is in 10 years what amount of fees must have been paid by the person to the lawyer.
Also, when the When the lawyer tells to Moula that the person doesnot have Rs 10,000 to pay as a decree, then why Moula didn't helped that person for the amount required by him.
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Re: Mojizas of Burhanudin Saab.
yusuf muchala was a well-known bohra lawyer in mumbai, (i dont know whether he is retired now) but also a big abde and chamcha of syedna.
once again, what makes these types of stories suspect are the characters involved. show me one instance when a mojiza happened to a neutral bohra who was not a blind sycophant or abde and quoting names, dates, and actual documented proof and then we can attempt to believe.
just making up unsubstantiated stories from thin air is not a mojiza, they are like the fictitious ghost stories recounted around campfires!
once again, what makes these types of stories suspect are the characters involved. show me one instance when a mojiza happened to a neutral bohra who was not a blind sycophant or abde and quoting names, dates, and actual documented proof and then we can attempt to believe.
just making up unsubstantiated stories from thin air is not a mojiza, they are like the fictitious ghost stories recounted around campfires!
Re: Mojizas of Burhanudin Saab.
There are NO mojezas ............ just JADOO ............. jadoo, tera jadoo ... chal gaya tuo chal gyaya, nahee chala tuo dosra drama lay aiean gay .........
These are all concocted stories, fairly tales .......... and yes this will happen to 'priviledged' ones only!!
These are all concocted stories, fairly tales .......... and yes this will happen to 'priviledged' ones only!!