When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by Guest » Fri Sep 20, 2002 10:39 am

<br>Huzaif's qoute:-"You are casting aspersions on a Maula who has one of the highest positions in the court of Allah."<p><br>There are plenty of cult members who claim that their "Taghut" will be one who will have highest position in the court of Allah.<p>Only Allah Taala knows the best.<p>Wasalaam<p>**************************<p><br>Taghut<p>The word “Taghut” covers a wide range of meanings: It means anything worshipped other then the REAL GOD [ALLAH], i.e. all the falls deities. It may be satan, devils, idols, stones, sun, stars, angels, human beings (DAI, MULLAS, BHAI SAHEBS, SEHZADA’S ETC, ETC,) e.g, Messengers of Allah, who were falsely worshipped and taken as Taghut. Likewise Saints, graves, rulers and leaders (once again Dai)who are falsely worshipped and wrongly followed. Some time Taghut means a false judge who goives a false judgement.<p>For reference to “Taghut” in Quran please study Ayahs 2:256- 257, 4:51, 4:60, 4:76, 5:60, 16:36, and 17:39 <p>Comments in (***) are mine<br>

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by Guest » Sat Sep 28, 2002 4:52 am

Muslim First,<br>U r ignorant hence u r saying that only Allah knows. With knowledge I know that Aqa Maula's(tus) shafaat will be accepted on the Day of Judgement. For a worthless creature like u, who is involved in spreading doubt amongst mankind, there will be indeed be a grievous chastisement. I curse u on this forum and may u be subjected to the scorching fire of hell for doing mischief on earth.<br>

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by Guest » Sat Sep 28, 2002 11:18 am

<br>Br. Huzaif<br>When you say 'La ilaha ill-Allah'<p>The declaration of faith starts with “There is no god but Allah”<p>This denies the attribution of divinity to all other things.<p>The declaration of faith is thus denial and affirmation; In fact, it denies four things and affirms four things.<p>It denies:<p>1. False deities<p>2. The tyrant<p>3. Intermediaries<p>4. And ordained authorities, who are bogus<p>If you think they can protect you or harm you then you have taken it as a god. <p>A tyrant demands that you worship and adore him (sound familiar?).<p>An intermediary, weather family, community or property, distracts you from faith. (sound familiar?).<p>Bogus authority advises you to act against truth and disobey Allah. (sound familiar?).<p>It also affirms four things:<p>1. That object of worship is Allah<p>2. That glorification and love are for Allah alone<p>3. That hope and fear are due only to Allah<p>4. And you are aware of Allah’s power and might, this awareness is TAQWA. <p>Now go back and reflect on what I wrote.<p>Wasalaam<p>

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by Guest » Sat Sep 28, 2002 8:02 pm

Br Huzaif: Do you know when you give curses to other people & they don't accept it -they all come back to you-So go figure out how many curses you have accumulated for yourself by now? YOu are such an emptyheaded idiot not worth arguiing for!

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by Guest » Sun Sep 29, 2002 11:23 am

<br>Cursing<p>Abu Darda narrated that Prophet SAW said:<p>When a person curses someone, the curse ascends to Heavan, where all the gates are closed against it. Then it descends to the earth and turns right and left. After finding no exit, it finds the one who has been cursed and attaches itself to him if he deserves it; but if he doesn't, it returns to one who uttered it.<p>Related by Abu Dawud<p>

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by Guest » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:21 am

Br Idiot Huzaif<p>When did Sayedna Started having Shaafat? Don’t you even know anything about Islam or Bohrisme?<p>I am surprised at your level of ignorance.<p><br>huzaif posted 09-28-2002 01:52 AM ET (US) <br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Muslim First,<br>U r ignorant hence u r saying that only Allah knows. With knowledge I know that Aqa Maula's(tus) shafaat will be accepted on the Day of Judgement.

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by huzaif » Wed Oct 09, 2002 2:13 am

jinx,

By calling me an idiot you are lowering your dignity. Is there so much hatred in you that you want to kill me ? You are most welcome. I fear not the gun in your hand nor the venom in your heart and the poison in your words. I pray everyday in my dua that I die at the hands of the enemies of Dawat. You are one of them. May you kill me so that I enter an eminent position in heaven.

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by anajmi » Wed Oct 09, 2002 2:27 am

Huzaif,

How about a curse at this point?

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by jinx » Wed Oct 09, 2002 2:47 am

Br Huzaif
I used Idiot as in a very affectionate manner..LOL

I wouldn’t want to see you die. At least not of some reformist board..haha

Your arrival at this board has made this site lively. I never felt so much fun and I think I would dedicatedly pray 2 rakaat of Namaaz for your health, well being and long life.

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by bayyan » Fri Oct 11, 2002 5:09 pm

Huzefa who ever you are just shut your mouth up you are creating problems with all your crap. If you are so much loyal to Aqa Moula (tus) why dont you just leave this forum and never read its messages, it is what you should do being a loyal follower of Syedna.
Oh ya I surely want to have a chat with you if you can give me your email.

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by huzaif » Thu Oct 17, 2002 3:44 am

Muhiq,

Thanks for crediting me with creating confusion on this board.
My goal is to create more and more doubt in the hearts of the hypocrites.
Hypocrisy in any case is the worst kind of confusion.
Thanks many times over.

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by bayyan » Sat Oct 19, 2002 6:03 pm

Hmmm,
Hypocrisy, I guess thats to pretend doing something good according to the dictionary.
I guess you are doing that! Pretending to defend your faith while you take interest in forums like these. :)
Does your faith not mention to you to keep away from such forums?
Hmmm, a typical hypocrite you are :)

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by huzaif » Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:28 am

muhiq,

You are the last person to say how a loyal Bohra must behave.
I have cursed you to get leucoderma within the next 18 months.

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by nausicaa » Fri Oct 25, 2002 6:56 pm

You are getting really funny Huzaif. I have a question though, why do your curses take so long to become effective? Can't you give shorter curses, like those which become active in a day or two. It'll be a lot more fun.

-N

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by huzaif » Tue Oct 29, 2002 8:09 am

jinx,

I have prayed to Allah today specially that you be paralysed for 5 years before you die. I have also prayed that you be destined to the most painful diseases. Lastly, I have prayed that you be thrown in the fire of hell and that you taste a most horrendous punishment.
I believe in dua and prayers.
You may not.
Let's see who wins.
Its my faith against your evil.
Do not write to me after a terrible calamity befalls you.
If you change then I will cancel my baddua. Again with prayers.

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by joe_bloggs » Tue Oct 29, 2002 3:03 pm

what is this forum for ? acting like ramayana and mahabharata gods giving curses and then killing the curse with another prayer...grow up huzaif just grow up...

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by Muslim First » Tue Oct 29, 2002 3:43 pm

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Br. Huzaif is a sick puppy.

We all need to pray for him.

.

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by qurban » Tue Oct 29, 2002 4:56 pm

----Huzaif is a sick puppy.
We all need to pray for him.-----

How can one who is beyond any redemption (muslim first)pray for others?

Mend your own fence before you venture out yonder!

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by huzaif » Tue Nov 05, 2002 5:50 am

Muhiq,

Curse be on you Muhiq.
May you develop such severe blisters in your mouth that you may be unable to eat.
This is a just reward for your enmity towards Allah and the Daawat.
Curse on you Muhiq.

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Re: When push comes to shove, 'Bohras are not Muslims'

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Unread post by huzaif » Fri Nov 08, 2002 5:32 am

jinx,

It is a foolish statement if you think that Bohras think they are not Muslims. Every Bohra knows he is a Muslim and every moomin has the love and veneration for the religion founded by Rasulullah(SA).
You are the type of person who will make the most ridiculous and false statements just to prove that Bohras are not following the right path. I am sorry to tell you that a vast majority have seen through your bag of dirty tricks.