PLEASE HELP OUR RIYADH MUMINEEN...

[Al-Muizz]

Why can't she keep it GENERAL?

AM,

The problem with abdes like you is that when people talk in general you or other abdes like you will ask them to provide exact details in-order to validate the authenticity and if they are reluctant do so you will dismiss it as heresay or fake. Now when someone is providing the actual names of the miscreants in her jamaat you are calling it character assasination. You can definitely debate with her by asking her relevant questions on her post to obtain more info and better understand the situation but you cannot dismiss her entire grievance by categorizing it under personal bickering.

Look, Aarif,

As I mentioned in the earlier posting, I don't know any of the characters mentioned in the postings. And NO! To counter your point, I am NOT ASKING for proof of this. Do I believe this exists? Sure! It happens in MOST if not ALL jamaats one way or another. Is this model behaviour? Absolutely not! How can you addres this? Liek we do, talk to the party and ask them straight up what their problem is. It's a jamaat. the jamaat is meant to be cohesive and open. If your jamaat isn't then surely that can't be the fault of Islam, Muslims, Shiaism, is it?

[Aarif]

If your jamaat isn't then surely that can't be the fault of Islam, Muslims, Shiaism, is it?

Who told you that this is fault of Islam?

[never_assume]

I join this forum on Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:53 pm my average of post is (0.56 posts per day / 0.01% of all posts) and my first topic was PLEASE HELP OUR RIYADH MUMINEEN... with a very clean and positive heart I join this forum hoping this I might get some solution for the negative issues going around us and in future I can recommend other people to join this forum which is very helpful, but till today I was so unsatisfied that not a single person has talked to me regarding the topic or advised something related to the post. Everyone out here seems to have some kind or other frustration and try to remove anyway or by any mean… But today I felt good after reading aarif mail and want to thanks at least we can talk back on the mail issue. its really surprizing to me that people wants to disclosed my name because I'm lady. do all the people on the forum are using very high-class english or are they with there real names..

Sure, you are right! The forum is about What is Happening in Your Jamaat. BUT it is NOT meant to be a forum for character assaination, name calling INDIVIDUAL NAMES like NA i doing. I mean, I don't know any of the characters NA mentions, but she's airing her PERSONAL AGENDA here. She is bitter she isn't getting the piece of the pie, so let's gripe over it....Why can't she keep it GENERAL? Why does she have to mention names, yet she herself DOES NOT REVEAL HER OWN NAME? You can't play ball w/o the.....that's right! THE BALL!

when janab, jammat. Burhani Womens...Shabab. or any other person names are reveal because something really serious issue is going in Riyadh soicety that's why this kind of mails are out, and Al-Muizz is interested in my name, can anyone ask Al-muzz how far his identity is disclosed on this forum, and the individual names will sure come, even if its a minister or president.

My Conclusion for help was...

In short Durriyah Mustafa Badshah and Durriyah Juzer Tambawala should be as normal BWA members without any assign actives and if this is not done then every moment in Jamaat, Shabab, BWA and Riyadh Markaz. I will keep forwarding to whole world, at least this way I can abuses you and I will show your real face to the world. How Riyadh Jamaat is play with Mumineen and Muminaat in all the matters.

but no one understood the topic and started arguing on something or other topic but now I think we can again start with fresh brainstorming that how can we handle such kind of issue where husbands are drinking, smoking and gambling and there wives when they are on vacation they don’t even wear rida or follows proper Islam rules (not need to mention) and they are active in Busaheba al-Muqadassah, Amatullah Aaisaheba (AQ). Burhani womens because of our Jannabshaheb who is very much greedy of money and likes to talk to ladies very much they are chamchas of BWA secretary and treasurer, but other ladies in BWA were husbands got sharaf from Aka Maula with Mafsusiyat and Hadiyat they are sitting in the corner. The question is very big WHY???

For any issues regarding Jamat in Riyadh, kindly contact

Bhai Yunus Hakimuddin Jadliwala

Cell Number # +966-5027-82454

@hozefa

please give some respectful persons name from Riyadh, yunus is one of the biggest chamcha and spit licker of Janaab, if hozefa is staying in Riyadh so I think he must be knowing lots of respected and sincere people out here.

[Fatwa Banker]

Aarif,

You appear to share your Wahabi mentor's affinity for farts.

And inspite of that you dare to make comments on Islam and its followers as if you are an expert authority on the religion

Speaking of farts, that stank up a big one. It is this very mindset & mentaility that keeps Islam in regression. Except for Porus, I don't know of any Arabic scholars on this board. There are quite a few wannabe Arabs of Asian descent however.

N/A,

Please take your personal vendettas to another forum as this is not an appropriate venue for the vengeance you seek, and trivializes the progressive cause.

BTW: Are you a man or a woman ? You keep referring to yourself as a woman, but then also mention your wife in a few posts.

[Al-Muizz]

If your jamaat isn't then surely that can't be the fault of Islam, Muslims, Shiaism, is it?

Who told you that this is fault of Islam?

First of all NA is claiming the named Bohras as unIslamic. SHE is making this an issue of Islam, and the morals one should follow. Look, IF all she is writing is true, and these fellas are doing all that she says they do, then Allah Subhanahu knows everything! There is a mizaan for each one of us, so why worry about who smokes, drinks, gambles, womanizes, paid for their sheikhood and mufsiyaat, etc, etc. Why not focus on your shortcomings and improve yourself, and let others do the same with themselves, and God for us all?

As I said earlier, if we all did this, the world would be a much better place. Even Moula Ali said to keep your tongue under a leash, for a reason.............

[Aarif]

Except for Porus, I don't know of any Arabic scholars on this board. There are quite a few wannabe Arabs of Asian descent however.

This forum is not the sole representative of Islam and Dawoodi Bohras are a minority Shia sub-caste that does not even constitute 1% of Muslims all over the world. Also, an opinion about any religion is a matter of perception. Since your basic thinking about Islam and Muslims in general is skewed, you will always try to find faults with the religion and its followers. Also if you will look at yourself in the mirror you will realize that you are a typical wannabe blue-eyed american fart of Asian descent.

[never_assume]

Fatwa Banker

Don’t try to spread your fatwa’s on me to go somewhere else, as I’m sharing my community problems not your personnel problems and if you don’t feel yourself comfortable, so better to keep your big mouth shut rather then showing your greatness.. What kind of fake Banker you are? Fatwa…

QUITE PLEASE and concern on the topic rather then pulling legs.



@Al-Muizz,

and the morals one should follow.

Even Moula Ali said to keep your tongue under a leash, for a reason.............

I think this above mails exactly goes on you and your attitude, if you are giving moral one should follows and what Maula Ali Said… so one simple question…

WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE DOING IN THIS FORUM?

Follow what you said as per Maula Ali –he use to do what he said… Yeah Maula Ali also said “ What we speak is like a silver, but silence is gold.” Please follow rather then telling others- I think you understood clearly what I mean and from now onwards if you wrote any mails or any reply that means you are just hypocrite person. Not a follower of Maula Ali. Giving advice to others feels good but now to follow….. Let’s see what you will do?

SILENCE PLEASE and concern on above para.

[anajmi]

Also if you will look at yourself in the mirror you will realize that you are a typical wannabe blue-eyed american fart of Asian descent.

Very funny Aarif. I would just add, "white-assed" to blue-eyed.

[Aarif]

IF all she is writing is true, and these fellas are doing all that she says they do, then Allah Subhanahu knows everything! There is a mizaan for each one of us, so why worry about who smokes, drinks, gambles, womanizes, paid for their sheikhood and mufsiyaat, etc, etc.

This is a very naive and a idiotic post from you. Going by this logic the prophet (pbuh) should have left the barbarian pagan worshipping arabs with their god. Why did he take the trouble of preaching and spreading the religion of Islam? He should have kept Islam and Quran to himself and should have allowed pagan worshippers like Abu Sufyan to continue looting innocent people. After all Allah existed even at that time. The prophet(pbuh) could have left all for him to sort out. Remember that people who do not raise their voice against injustice and keep quite are cowards. Someone has to blow the whistle. NA is doing that by trying to expose some higher ups in her jamaat...

[Fatwa Banker]

Fart Junkie Jr.,

This forum is not the sole representative of Islam and Dawoodi Bohras are a minority Shia sub-caste that does not even constitute 1% of Muslims all over the world. Also, an opinion about any religion is a matter of perception. Since your basic thinking about Islam and Muslims in general is skewed, you will always try to find faults with the religion and its followers.

Well at least you are backing away from the claim that you got to speak Arabic to criticise Muslims. Since your basic thinking about Bohra and Shias in general is skewed, you will always try to find faults with the religion and its followers. That includes getting a hard on when "he/she" posts unsubstantiated Jamaat gossip.

[Aarif]

Well at least you are backing away from the claim that you got to speak Arabic to criticise Muslims.

It was an anological comparision so no need to take it literally. It has more to do with how much knowledge of Islam you have. E.g. even though Anajmi is not a scholar in arabic he can debate well with Porus who unlike him is a scholar in arabic. This is due to his knowledge on the subject. Unfortunately in your case both the pre-requisites are missing.

[Al-Muizz]

IF all she is writing is true, and these fellas are doing all that she says they do, then Allah Subhanahu knows everything! There is a mizaan for each one of us, so why worry about who smokes, drinks, gambles, womanizes, paid for their sheikhood and mufsiyaat, etc, etc.

This is a very naive and a idiotic post from you. Going by this logic the prophet (pbuh) should have left the barbarian pagan worshipping arabs with their god. Why did he take the trouble of preaching and spreading the religion of Islam? He should have kept Islam and Quran to himself and should have allowed pagan worshippers like Abu Sufyan to continue looting innocent people. After all Allah existed even at that time. The prophet(pbuh) could have left all for him to sort out. Remember that people who do not raise their voice against injustice and keep quite are cowards. Someone has to blow the whistle. NA is doing that by trying to expose some higher ups in her jamaat...

What "injustice" is this woman talking about, again? That lo and behold! Someone else is getting the front position for their masalah! Oh my goodness! Such injustice! Wow! That stops her from praying! That stops her from practicing her religious freedoms! That these fellas in Saudi-the chamchas get to sit in bensaheb thaal and she doesn't? That these BWA members' husbands buy sheikh and mufsiyat titles? This is what you consider injustice?

You, my friend, are trivializing what injustice really is by your analogies! The Prophet SAW, was given a MANDATE by Allah Subhanahu to PREACH and PROCLAIM Islam. How is what NA doing ANYTHING close to this???? Unless NA was given such a mandate by Allah Subhanahu to name all the corrupt Saudi jamaat fellas, your putting Rasulallah SAW struggles being similar to this misguided person's shallow power struggles in the same light is patently shallow!

NA has a personal vedetta against these BWA ladies. The Prophet SAW did not have personal vendetta against Abu Sufyan, etc. He stopped the idol worshipping because Hhis message was much biffer than the money making scheme Sufyan was promoting....it was a new era of REVELATION BY GOD!

[Al-Muizz]

Fatwa Banker

Don’t try to spread your fatwa’s on me to go somewhere else, as I’m sharing my community problems not your personnel problems and if you don’t feel yourself comfortable, so better to keep your big mouth shut rather then showing your greatness.. What kind of fake Banker you are? Fatwa…

QUITE PLEASE and concern on the topic rather then pulling legs.



@Al-Muizz,

and the morals one should follow.

Even Moula Ali said to keep your tongue under a leash, for a reason.............

I think this above mails exactly goes on you and your attitude, if you are giving moral one should follows and what Maula Ali Said… so one simple question…

WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE DOING IN THIS FORUM?

Follow what you said as per Maula Ali –he use to do what he said… Yeah Maula Ali also said “ What we speak is like a silver, but silence is gold.” Please follow rather then telling others- I think you understood clearly what I mean and from now onwards if you wrote any mails or any reply that means you are just hypocrite person. Not a follower of Maula Ali. Giving advice to others feels good but now to follow….. Let’s see what you will do?

SILENCE PLEASE and concern on above para.

Ma'am, with all due respect, I have no clue what you just said:)

Just because you don't agree with what I wrote, doesn't mean it's not true:)

[Fatwa Banker]

Arif,

You are partially correct , when you are referring to discussions regarding specific Quran text , and I do not join those discussions. Discussions regarding the religion of Islam and its implementation and followers is a different matter entirely.

[never_assume]

@FB.

That includes getting a hard on when "he/she" posts unsubstantiated Jamaat gossip

Well I think FB for you this all is gossip and fun, if you would be on my place and suffering along with more then 200 mumineen so I think, that too would be a gossip for you. In short…. me, my family and my team got so much guts to stand against jammat, but I forgot that a coward person like you just sit back and do gossips. Jaza-Kallah-Kher...


@Aarif

Thanks a lot Aarif regarding understanding the concept of this post. I believe you go with you name perfectly. Aarif meaning in Arabic-Acquainted, Knowledgeable. Hope to get more positive lights form your side.


@Al_Muizz

NA has a personal vedetta against these BWA ladies.

After so many mails and posts Al-Muizz still didn’t understood what exactly the reason of mine to post this issue. Using big names and references what happen 1400h years ago. But he didn’t understood that, I don’t want any position nor any kind of rank or having a personal vendetta against BWA,

It’s the matter of honor and grace give by our Aka Maula, whether they buy Hadiyat or Mafsusiyat with money or without money. Question is this sharaf is given by our Aka Maula and after getting this hadiya the titled persons getting disgrace and insulted against the ladies whose husbands are not up to the mark and out of Deen and Dawat. This is my point to show everyone and expose our Riyadh Jammat, how corrupt is our Riyadh Jannab and Jammat members or BWA are?

Ma'am, with all due respect, I have no clue what you just said:)

Just because you don't agree with what I wrote, doesn't mean it's not true:)

As I said you didn’t understood the post issue, still you are in the middle of desert asking, where are we going? So I think it’s not your fault.


@FB

You are partially correct , when you are referring to discussions regarding specific Quran text , and I do not join those discussions. Discussions regarding the religion of Islam and its implementation and followers is a different matter entirely.

Hmmm at least FB is not completely, but partially agreed that something is correct. I should thanks once again to Aaarif.

[Fatwa Banker]

N/A,

You are a man posing as a woman on this board so your credibility is suspect. You are fighting your wife's petty & personal battles.

[never_assume]

N/A,
You are a man posing as a woman on this board so your credibility is suspect. You are fighting your wife's petty & personal battles.

@FB.

In short…. me, my family and my team got so much guts to stand against jammat, but I forgot that a coward person like you just sit back and do gossips. Jaza-Kallah-Kher...

Please read the above, Me,(myself AMTE SYEDNA (TUS) member of BWA) My family (my husband, my son, my elder daughter) and my team (my friends and many muminatbhen who support us internally) now tell me what else you require to satisfies your useless itching and then too you feel im hiding something so please keep it to yourself rather then without reason writting something on the post which is out of topic. spearding Fatwas without knowledge..

[porus]

Salaam Mumin,

I agreed with your point of view and also understood the fact what you are trying to tell me, but this basically is happened in BWA and my wife cannot see all this wrong and hypocritical thing going around and also my nature is very much aggressive regarding these issues, not only me or my wife are fighting for this unbearable issues, we have our team here and we all are try to get better Markaz, jammat members, good Janaabshaheb and BWA for all the Mumineen. But only the problem is there are lots and lots of CHAMCHAS and they are the one who spoil the work in the name of Dawaat and Dia ni Khidmaat.

Trust me people use to be hypocrite 1400h years ago in the time of Rasullah SAW (PBUH), but today I believe that the generation of hypocrite and hypocrisy is still going on and we will add you our next mail in this series and let the world knows what is happen in Riyadh Jamaat and how money minded is Riyadh Janaabshaheb and Jamaat members.

Inshallah soon.

Never_assume

Never-assume,

You referred to your wife in your posting on October 2. This is reproduced above with the words 'my wife' highlighted. If you are a woman, as you now claim, why did you refer to your wife earlier?

I personally do not much care about your gender but you should put Fatwa Banker's doubt to rest.

[never_assume]

Never-assume,

You referred to your wife in your posting on October 2. This is reproduced above with the words 'my wife' highlighted. If you are a woman, as you now claim, why did you refer to your wife earlier?
I personally do not much care about your gender but you should put Fatwa Banker's doubt to rest.

Please read the above FB, Me,(myself AMTE SYEDNA (TUS) member of BWA) My family (my husband, my son, my elder daughter) and my team (my friends and many muminatbhen who support us internally) now tell me what else you require to satisfies

@Porus.

Kindly read the post which I wrote to FB and its mention clearly regarding myself, my family and my team…

when I started this matter in Riyadh Subject: Save Riyadh and there Mumineen and Muminaat…Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 23:04:22 +0300 the matter was only up-to our Riyadh Jammat member’s and BWA’s, when one of my friend told me to join this forum so obviously I have to inform my husband and after his permission I’m in this forum, I involved myself in this issue with the permission of my husband and my family and also in Islam a women has to inform her husband before doing any activities related to any issues, but I was not aware that people on this forum is so hypocrite’s and egoistic kind of person who keeps on creating problems and make a cross check and remove “Bal ki Khal” like ladies…(Panchat) when I informed everything to my husband… so YES’ he and my children we sits together and we operated this matter, because a lady cannot just face all this alone. And where in the book its mention that if there is fight for a person there family members are not supposed to help them.

Please you people concern on the issue that’s enough for our-self and also for Muminaatbhen of Riyadh… Only concern is to remove these two ladies from there actives of BWA, not from the BWA’s society that’s it, and after the success of our battle believe me there will be lots of Dua and Praise from our-side… Jaza-Kallah-Kher…

[Aarif]

discussions regarding specific Quran text , and I do not join those discussions.

Discussions regarding the religion of Islam and its implementation and followers is a different matter entirely.

The basis of Islam is holy Quran. Without understanding Quran how can you comment on religion of Islam?

[Fatwa Banker]

From its implementation, which makes what is or not in the Book irrelevant.

Stoning people to death, not allowing women to drive or travel without their husband's permission, random killings of innocent civilians, demolition of ancient historic sites, shooting women in stadiums are universally abhorrent practices. It does not matter to me what the Quran says about them, does it to you ?

[Al-Muizz]

@Al_Muizz

NA has a personal vedetta against these BWA ladies.

After so many mails and posts Al-Muizz still didn’t understood what exactly the reason of mine to post this issue. Using big names and references what happen 1400h years ago. But he didn’t understood that, I don’t want any position nor any kind of rank or having a personal vendetta against BWA,

It’s the matter of honor and grace give by our Aka Maula, whether they buy Hadiyat or Mafsusiyat with money or without money. Question is this sharaf is given by our Aka Maula and after getting this hadiya the titled persons getting disgrace and insulted against the ladies whose husbands are not up to the mark and out of Deen and Dawat. This is my point to show everyone and expose our Riyadh Jammat, how corrupt is our Riyadh Jannab and Jammat members or BWA are?

Ma'am, with all due respect, I have no clue what you just said:)

Just because you don't agree with what I wrote, doesn't mean it's not true:)

As I said you didn’t understood the post issue, still you are in the middle of desert asking, where are we going? So I think it’s not your fault.

Aqa Moula TUS says don't do Ghibaat of your fellow mumineen. Doing ghibaat is like eating your brothers flesh! And what exactly are you doing right now? Would you not consider it ghibaat talking about these BWA women like this? Would you like it if someone talked about you to others like this? You don't even practice what Aqa Moula TUS preaches!

[Aarif]

You don't even practice what Aqa Moula TUS preaches!

Does Aqa Maula HIMSELF practice what he preaches??? E.g. in all his bayaans (which he delivers sitting on royal Taqht) he talks about the simplicity and compassion of ahle-bait and encourages all bohras to do the same. But after the bayaan is over he collects fat salaams from his followers, eats a lavish meal, rides in his Mercedes Benz and goes back to his royal palace. This is not how Maulana Ali and his family lived their life.

[Al-Muizz]

You don't even practice what Aqa Moula TUS preaches!

Does Aqa Maula HIMSELF practice what he preaches??? E.g. in all his bayaans (which he delivers sitting on royal Taqht) he talks about the simplicity and compassion of ahle-bait and encourages all bohras to do the same. But after the bayaan is over he collects fat salaams from his followers, eats a lavish meal, rides in his Mercedes Benz and goes back to his royal palace. This is not how Maulana Ali and his family lived their life.

Dude, by your analogy, Moula Ali A.S. would have been rich because he rode a horse while several of his fellow Muslims were too poor and had to walk long distances.......


I know from experience how "lavish" Aqa Moula TUS meal really is. The "fat" salaams are not mandatory and you know this, yet you bring this up like a broken record.

I really don't know what you want Aqa Moula TUS to do....live in a hut? Eat and drink water only? walk to/for Masjid?

[bohra_manus]

Does Aqa Maula HIMSELF practice what he preaches??? E.g. in all his bayaans (which he delivers sitting on royal Taqht) he talks about the simplicity and compassion of ahle-bait and encourages all bohras to do the same. But after the bayaan is over he collects fat salaams from his followers, eats a lavish meal, rides in his Mercedes Benz and goes back to his royal palace. This is not how Maulana Ali and his family lived their life.

Dude, by your analogy, Moula Ali A.S. would have been rich because he rode a horse while several of his fellow Muslims were too poor and had to walk long distances.......


I know from experience how "lavish" Aqa Moula TUS meal really is. The "fat" salaams are not mandatory and you know this, yet you bring this up like a broken record.

I really don't know what you want Aqa Moula TUS to do....live in a hut? Eat and drink water only? walk to/for Masjid?

I disagree:
The fat salam is negotiated first weather for any activity that involves presence of Aqa Moula. I have been witness to several of these negotiations. I have even seen negotiations with one person on awarding of sheikh title to him during the visit of Aqa Moula. For ordinary bohras they are instructed to present "fakhir" amount to Aqua Moula during the visit. What do you call this?

[Aarif]

Dude, by your analogy, Moula Ali A.S. would have been rich because he rode a horse while several of his fellow Muslims were too poor and had to walk long distances.......


I know from experience how "lavish" Aqa Moula TUS meal really is. The "fat" salaams are not mandatory and you know this, yet you bring this up like a broken record.

I really don't know what you want Aqa Moula TUS to do....live in a hut? Eat and drink water only? walk to/for Masjid?

AM,
The money earned by Maulana Ali was his own hard earned money that he had made by working in fields and if he bought a horse with that money for travelling it is completely justified. Look at Syedna and his family. If our community takes away its support they will not be able earn two square meals on their own merit. Our top clergy is living a life of parasites. Also, are you that stupid that you cannot see any difference between Syedna's royal palace with 100 servants and a hut? Don't you see any opulance in travelling in chartered planes and rolls royce car? Don't you see any difference in a simple meal and the one offered to Syedna during ziafat? Don't you find anything wrong with charging people millions of rupees for ziafat? Honestly if don't you see any difference between the Dai and his family living an extremely lavish life at the expense of community's hard earned money and Maulana Ali travelling by horse purchased with his own hard earned money than you completely deserve to be exploited by your cunning master... Jab kashti khud dubna chaahe toh Samunder kyaa kar saktaa hein.

[Aarif]

Stoning people to death, not allowing women to drive or travel without their husband's permission, random killings of innocent civilians, demolition of ancient historic sites, shooting women in stadiums are universally abhorrent practices.

This has nothing to do with Islam or Muslims in general. If you will do a simple analysis you will find that there are 1.2 billion muslims all over the world. Out of these how many are terrorists and fanatic fundamentalist who are creating havoc all over the world? Roughly let's say 120 million which is like what 1%. So are you telling me that you will blame the 99% Muslim Ummah for 1% miscreants?

[never_assume]

FB

From its implementation, which makes what is or not in the Book irrelevant.

Stoning people to death, not allowing women to drive or travel without their husband's permission, random killings of innocent civilians, demolition of ancient historic sites, shooting women in stadiums are universally abhorrent practices. It does not matter to me what the Quran says about them, does it to you ?

FB,
Well…well…well… Mr. FB still don’t know the difference between Islam and culture of Arabs (Saudi Arab), were in Islam it’s said ladies are not allowed to drive cars, women’s use to ride on camel and horse so why not car, and random killing, demolition of ancient history, etc… etc… is Saudi Culture, not in Islam and FB always mix things, in his previous mails also he mix lots of things like:

• Islam and Arab Culture.
• Language problem.
• English mistakes
• Women/Men issue who is behind the mail.
• Person issue of jammat.
• Gossips.
And many more things is repeating again and again without anything link to the post. I request to forum members to explain FB the difference between Islam and Arab culture, please FB it’s a personal request that if you are confuses between these issue sit back and just read the post rather then expressing your feelings in wrong directions,

[anajmi]

never assume,

fart is not confused. He knows the difference very well and chooses to ignore it. He is a Hypocrite with a capital H. He keeps complaining about how Saudi Arabia tramples on women's rights but when a woman from Saudi Arabia complains about the same, this is what fart has to say

Yeah, right. You live in Saudi Arabia and concerned about women and rights ?

Get over it

[never_assume]

miuz

Aqa Moula TUS says don't do Ghibaat of your fellow mumineen. Doing ghibaat is like eating your brothers flesh! And what exactly are you doing right now? Would you not consider it ghibaat talking about these BWA women like this? Would you like it if someone talked about you to others like this? You don't even practice what Aqa Moula TUS preaches!

Muizz
No need to explain what Islam says and what is mention in Quran, I think I’m more scholar then you and I know better things what Islam and Quran says. So please keep this Ghibbat issue up to you. If you are so keen in my previous post I mention……….

I think this above mails exactly goes on you and your attitude, if you are giving moral one should follows and what Maula Ali Said… so one simple question…
WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE DOING IN THIS FORUM?
Follow what you said as per Maula Ali –he use to do what he said… Yeah Maula Ali also said “ What we speak is like a silver, but silence is gold.” Please follow rather then telling others- I think you understood clearly what I mean and from now onwards if you wrote any mails or any reply that means you are just hypocrite person. Not a follower of Maula Ali. Giving advice to others feels good but now to follow….. Let’s see what you will do?

SILENCE PLEASE and concern on above para.

I’m only talking about our jannab and jammat, but you’re talking about Aka Maula and Maula Ali. So please first you implement on your-self then try to preach.