Tunisia,Egypt: Is the Arab World Moving Towards Independence

[ghulam muhammed]

*Tunisia, Egypt; Is the Arab world moving towards independence?*

For the first time in recent history, the Arab masses in Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen, Jordan, and elsewhere have turned their anger towards the decadent regimes, rather than the US; they are not burning the US flags but government buildings. The regime changes may signify gaining real independence and breaking free from the last shackles of the post-colonial model, which was setup after the First World War. The masses are seeking to liberate their country from these self-serving regimes; indeed, liberation always comes from within.


If the demonstrations were taking place in the streets of Tehran, instead of Egypt or Tunisia, there would have been a prompt and unanimous response from the Western governments, demanding a regime change; instead, the US has suggested further `democratic’ reforms to quell the demonstrations. This sort of response only adds further resentment, as it suggests that Mubarak’s regime has some level of democratic credentials. According to the `election’ results, for the last three decades Mubarak has been winning with a
substantial majority, so where are his supporters now. Everyone knows the Egyptian elections are farcical, especially when you muzzle the opposition.


The Western governments are pressing on the Mubarak regime to respect the rights of the people to express their views, and to lift censorship placed on the mobile and internet, communications. The central point about democracy is not just about the right of the masses to express their opinions, but such opinions should be implemented by the government as their representatives. In the case of Egypt, they are demonstrating for a representative government, and the removal of the current dictatorship.


There is great reluctance to label Mubarak as a dictator by the US and other Western governments, primarily because he has done tremendous amount of work in stabilising the region in favour of Israel, and keeping Hamas and the Islamic movements inside Egypt, at bay. In the build up to Iraq war and after, the US was desperately looking for a mass uprising similar to Egypt, but it never materialised. However, Iraq was allegedly worth invading to remove a relatively popular dictator (not the mythical WMDs), whilst the current unpopular dictators of Egypt, Saudi and the other Gulf States are worth giving support; that is the reward for being subservient to American interests. All this serves as a reminder that national interests and not principles of democracy dictate the US foreign policy in the region.


Even if Mubarak manages to remain in power, the regime is unlikely to continue after his demise. The likelihood of a possible power vacuum emerging has naturally raised discussion on the types of government that is likely to succeed. There are two main candidates: Islamic orientated government headed by the Muslim Brotherhood or a pro-western secular regime. Mohamed ElBaradei, the Nobel prize-winning former UN official, has gained some attention, however, at this stage, it looks unlikely that he commands enough support to take power or form a stable government. As for the possibility of a pro-Islamic regime emerging, the Islamophobes and the Zionist dominated press are already busy scare mongering with speculation of violence escalating, as a Islamic government is likely to give greater
assistance to the Palestinians. On the contrary, a strong Egypt and Iran could provide stability by acting as a counter weight to the rabid dog, Israel, by putting it on a leash, so that it stops biting Palestinian women and children.


Whatever government comes to power, it should not be an issue for the West, if it is the people's choice! As lovers of democracy, surely they should respect the outcome of a free and fair election. Of course, Hamas might have something to say about this who won the election with a landslide victory! Regardless of, who or what, succeeds in Egypt, Tunisia or elsewhere, if the Arab world is to make progress, it needs to build a stable government that is accountable to the masses, where the rule of law prevails, corruption and
nepotism is erased. These few changes can transform the Arab world substantially, setting the pace for greater unification under the banner of Islam or Arab nationalism. If the domino effect proceeds towards Syria and beyond, the Arab world could finally gain independence, and who knows, another Salahuddin could emerge.

[anajmi]

All this serves as a reminder that national interests and not principles of democracy dictate the US foreign policy in the region.

Seriously? Are you sure? It can't be. Hosni Mubarak was democratically elected unanimously by the people for the last 30 years by 115% votes as per SNL. The people who are revolting are insurgents who hate our freedoms.

Have you noticed that wherever a call for democracy is raised amongst the masses, they are almost always followed by a rise in anti american sentiment amongst those masses?

[anajmi]

http://www.jta.org/news/article/2011/02 ... -nightmare

The headline says "Unrest in Egypt could lead to Israel's worst nightmare". Now who could imagine that the only democracy in the middle east considers the dethroning of a dictator through unrest, it's worst nightmare?

[ghulam muhammed]

Honeymoon is over.
for US., British, French, Israel and their Arab Dictators
Latheef Farook

It appears the honeymoon is over for United States, Britain and France and their medieval style oppressive dictators in the Middle East who deprived their people of basic rights and freedom leave alone the poverty and misery they were subjected to.

Popular uprisings have been sweeping from Yemen to Mauritania, shaking very foundations of regimes in the region following the Tunisian uprising which overthrew Dictator Ben Ali–something undreamt of only a month ago.

It spread first to Algeria followed by Jordan demanding the removal of their governments. Spontaneous demonstrations
in Egypt forced President Hosni Mubarak’s son to flee to London last Wednesday and regime is using brute force with United States supplied tear gas canisters to crush the demonstration though many predict that these demonstrations are yet to gather momentum.

Since the US provides about $1.3 billion in military aid to Egypt a year, the repressive apparatus of the state is seen by many in Egypt as hand in glove with the US.

Hosni Mubarak has become a shameful liability for the Arabs and the Muslims worldwide and thus the people are fighting not only for their political freedom and economic upliftment but also to regain their lost dignity.

Mubarak has been such a great asset to the West and Israel that Washington Post citing an Israeli minister who spoke on condition of anonymity to Israeli media stated that Egypt should force to crush the uprising.

Going a step ahead US Vice President Joe Biden said “Mubarak is not a dictator, he shouldn't step down...... and wonders what the Egyptian protesters want”. Certainly Joe Biden needs to go for a refresher course on dictatorship and democracy.

The whole world is watching developments in Cairo, the bastion of the West and Israel and an active centre for Israel’s secret service Mossad. Thus it is highly unlikely that the West and Israel would allow his fall .Perhaps former UN nuclear chief Mohamed Al Baradi’s arrival in Cairo is an effort to replace Mubarak and safeguard their interest.

In Yemen a woman activist Karman Tawakul who led student rallies against the government in the capital and sparked a new wave of protests was arrested. She led two protests at Sana’a University, criticizing autocratic Arab leaders and calling on Yemenis to topple President Ali Abdullah Saleh by using text messages and emails.

On January 27 more than 2200 Arab scholars, politicians, and activists – from over 20 Arab countries – issued an “URGENT APPEAL” in Washington for the defense and consolidation of human rights and democracy in the Arab World.

People throughout the Middle East have been seething with anger for years at the way their rulers suppressed, tortured and subjected them to extreme poverty while the ruling elite live in luxury amidst corruption and collaborate with what the people describe as their sworn enemies-United States, Britain, France and Israel- and help them implement their evil designs on Islam and Muslims.

The peoples’ frustration has reached such a stage they think that Israel and the regimes in the region are two sides of the same coin threatening their very survival. Thus the uprising is spreading like wildfire and no one could predict its consequences. Indications are that Middle East will never be the same and the rulers will not be able to serve their Western masters –US, UK and France- as they did in the past.

Britain and France, which ruled the Middle East for centuries and claim, together with United States, to be the guardians of human rights, democracy and freedom, deprive the people in the region even basic human rights. For example, in the free, fair and rare general elections held in Algeria in 1991 the Muslim party won the poll with a large majority. Yet the Middle East despots, together with their European proprietors staged a coup, installed a dictator and brutally denied the fruits of democracy and freedom to the people longing to enjoy them.

People protested and the armed forces crushed the uprising by killing around 150,000.

In the free and fair elections held in January 2006 for the Palestine Authority Parliament, Hamas won the elections with the largest single majority. It was a very clean and peaceful election supervised by former US President Jimmy Carter. The Hamas victory dealt a severe blow to the often repeated Zionist myth that Israel was the only democracy in the Middle East. However the Arab dictators together with their Western masters Israel crushed this budding democracy and imposed economic blockade punishing the entire 1.5 million Palestinians in Gaza which was turned into an open prison.

Western conspiracies against Muslim Middle East are not something new. Britain planted Israel in the heart of Middle East to ensure the region remain in turmoil forever. Holding up the Holy Quran British Prime Minister of the Victorian age Gladstone told the House of Commons that "so long as the Egyptians have got this book ( meaning the Holy Quran) in their hands and that place in Saudi ( meaning Makkah) , we will never be able to enjoy quiet or peace in that land”.

Napoleon Bonaparte invaded Egypt and introduced a strategy getting Egyptians Muslims to kill each other. This strategy was adopted by both George Bush and Tony Blair when they invaded Afghanistan and Iraq.

Thus the endless conspiracies. The ongoing so called war on terrorism demonizing Islam and Muslims to justify the invasion of Muslim countries is the continuation of these conspiracies. The statement of former head of the British armed forces who retired and was appointed as a defense advisor to Prime Minister David Cameron that the war in Afghanistan is a war on Islam confirms this deeply entrenched anti Muslim policy.

Speaking on the BBC Radio 4 program on 17 May 2010 about Britain’s continued occupation of Afghanistan, Gen (r) Sir Richard Dannatt said: “There is an Islamist agenda which if we don’t oppose and face it off in southern Afghanistan, or Afghanistan, or in South Asia, then frankly that influence will grow. We could see it moving from South Asia to the Middle East to North Africa and to the high water mark of the Islamic caliphate in the 14th, 15th Century. He explicitly said if Muslims adopted Islam’s political ideas and the Khilafah ruling system, this would be unacceptable and warranted a military response from Britain. He had no issues with Muslims praying or enacting spiritual rituals, provided they surrendered political life to Western values”.

This is the deeply entrenched policy of the West towards Islam and Muslims. Now that the people have woken up it is unlikely that Middle East will be same playground for the West.

Latheef Farook is a Senior Sri Lankan journalist who, after working for Ceylon Daily News and Ceylon Observer for almost decade, led a team to Dubai in February 1979 where he re launched Gulf News. After almost a quarter century in the Gulf he is now based in Colombo and concentrate on special features highlighting injustice against Muslims worldwide.

[Fatwa Banker]

Now that the people have woken up it is unlikely that Middle East will be same playground for the West.

It will be the playground for Wahabis instead, their Disneyland just like Afghanistan.

Yet another popular uprising will be gone to waste, sadly.

[Regal]

wahabis? the ikhwan are not wahabis. what do u mean playground? saudia is wahabi playground afghanistan is nato/indian playground.. obama was way out of line when he publicly ordered mubarak to step down. i mean who is he to meddle?

[anajmi]

Yet another popular uprising will be gone to waste, sadly.

Fart knows exactly how his masters are going to resolve this. As soon as the American puppet is overthrown, watch out for Osama moving to Egypt on CIA camels.

[Humsafar]

It will be the playground for Wahabis instead....

Surely, it can't be worse than the playground of 30 years of despotism and suppression supported and financed by the US - the Disneyland of free market and democracy!!!!

[ghulam muhammed]

So what if there are a billion Muslims starving.................

Seems like a Tunisian style revolution needs to sweep across the entire Muslim world!

It took an 'army' to send the king off...... Saudi King Abdullah and his enormous retinue needed "at least a dozen" tractor-trailers to load their mountain of luggage and an army of outside contractors to do security screening before he could fly out of JFK last week. "The amount of luggage they had from shopping they did in New York was awe-inspiring. Airport workers joked they must have been 'a mini-stimulus package' for the city." The king, 87 -- who was in town for two months for back surgery and booked whole floors of the Plaza and Waldorf-Astoria to recover -- and his entourage left on more than six private jets. Sources said he flew out on his own Boeing 747 while two wives left on smaller jets. One source said, "There were separate jets for wife No. 1 and wife No. 2 and their own retinues. The entourage was so large that the Transportation Security Administration was forced to hire an outside company to complete the screening."

[Regal]

As soon as the American puppet is overthrown, watch out for Osama moving to Egypt on CIA camels.

hahahaha. mubarak looks like hes going nowhere the way he divided the protestors. the people should have marched up to the president house and made camp. but oh well whatever happens, happens in the best for everyone.

[ghulam muhammed]

I am pasting below an excerpt from the Imam Khomeini's Speech that he delivered after a similar incident (referring to Raymond Davis Incident) took place in Iran - 1964. After the speech, which incited a lot of people, he was sent in exile in November the same year. I am sure you will be able to relate it with what has happened in Lahore.....

Khomeini's Speech Excerpts -- The Granting of Capitaluatory Rights to the USA�“ 27 October, 1964

.I cannot express the sorrow I feel in my heart Iran no longer has any festival to celebrate; they have turned our festival into mourning…They have sold us, they have sold our independence; but still they light up the city and dance The dignity of the Iranian Army has been trampled underfoot! A law has been put before the Majlis according to which we are to accede to the Vienna Convention, and a provision has been added to it that all American military advisers, together with their families, technical, and administrative officials, and servants “ in short, anyone in any way connected to them " are to enjoy legal immunity with respect to any crime they may commit in Iran. If some American's servant, some American cook, assassinates your marja in the middle of the bazaar, or runs over him, the Iranian police do not have the right to apprehend him! Iranian courts do not have the right to judge him! The dossier must be sent to America, so that our master there can decide what is to be done. They have reduced the Iranian people to a level lower than that of the American dog. If someone runs over a dog belonging to an American, he will be persecuted. But if an American cook runs over the Shah, the head of the state, no one will have the right to interfere with him. Why? Because they wanted a loan and Americans demanded this in return.

Source: Islam and Revolution: Writings and Declarations of Imam Khomeini, p 181-188.

[ghulam muhammed]

a similar incident (referring to Raymond Davis Incident)

RAYMOND DAVIS: Killed 2 people at a public place of Lahore and claimed to fire in self defense

REACTION: US Embassy has refused to cooperate with Pakistan and demanding his immediate release.

On the other hand :-

Dr Aafia Siddiqui: a Pakistan citizen was charged with killing two US soldiers in self defense in war hit Afghanistan.

REACTION: Physical and mental torture for 5 years and then finally sentence of 80 years prison and all this with full support of Pakistani Government.

Why this difference?

Is a random US citizen above Pakistani law?

Its time to take a stand

"RAYMOND KAY BADLAY AAFIA"

[Regal]

raymond davis should be raped, beaten for 5 years and then exchanged for dr. afia that would be a fair exchange. and the govt should order the all embassies especially the american one to give a list of all foreigners who are in pakistan. whoever is caught and is not on that list should be convicted. only God knows how many more raymond davises are roaming in pakistan w/o any fear.


ghulaam bhai, it is important to note that raymond davis was carrying unliscenced firearms and the two guys he shot down at a traffic light in fact did have concealed guns but they were licsenced. plus raymond davis doesnot have a diplomatic visa so he is not eligible for diplomatic immunity.

[Fatwa Banker]

Surely, it can't be worse than the playground of 30 years of despotism and suppression supported and financed by the US - the Disneyland of free market and democracy!!!!

Isn't that what the Iranians said when they overthrew the Shah ?

[Fatwa Banker]

wahabis? the ikhwan are not wahabis

The resident Jaahil An*jmi didn't use to be one either ! In case you didn't know, Wahabism is Saudi Arabia's second biggest export.

what do u mean playground?

Shooting women in the head in Soccer Stadiums for sport

obama was way out of line when he publicly ordered mubarak to step down.

Hosni is our bitch, bought and paid for, so no, Obama was not out of line.

[anajmi]

The resident Jaahil An*jmi didn't use to be one either ! In case you didn't know, Wahabism is Saudi Arabia's second biggest export.

fart has his panties tied up in a knot. He loves the first export but doesn't want the second one. Well, as they say in America, buy one, get the second one free.

[anajmi]

Surely, it can't be worse than the playground of 30 years of despotism and suppression supported and financed by the US - the Disneyland of free market and democracy!!!!

Isn't that what the Iranians said when they overthrew the Shah ?

Iranians are much better off than Iraqis and Afghanis where the Americans have established freedom and democracies. Instead of always threatening nations that do not want to think like they do, they should try and understand. Unfortunately, with a limited IQ that allows them to burp out only a couple of words like "soccer stadium" and "wahhabi" this is a far shot. There will be a lot more chaos before nations can get rid of this troll in their midst.

[anajmi]

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-0 ... deast.html

The headline says "U.S. Interests in Peril as Youth Rebel, Leaders Quit in Mideast".

Longtime Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh yesterday followed Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in responding to street protests by pledging not to seek reelection.

American bitches are running.

[Regal]

fatwa, why do you really want mubarak to continue? is it because u dont want ikhwan to take over or is it because u like being americas bi*** ? if mubarak has done a bad job for 30 years for the egyptian peoples why should they accept him?

or maybe it is that the dawat will have to run away from egypt if the ikhwan come to power. u just want whats good for u, u dont care if milions of egyptians suffer.


get ur facts straight. no doubt ur listening to too much western media/dai nu farmans. the ikhwan was started by a sufi leader in early 1900s and its aim is to bring shariah. the ikhwan are not like the taliban though, and operate in a dozen countries in the form of political parties to come to power thru democracy.

[Muslim First]

Egypt’s Bumbling Brotherhood
By SCOTT ATRAN
Published: February 2, 2011

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/03/opini ... lobal-home

[anajmi]

Regal,

fa_rt is not a Syedna abde. But I see why anyone would make that mistake. fa_rt is a blind abde too, but his masters reside in Wall Street.

[Fatwa Banker]

why do you really want mubarak to continue?

Who said anything about wanting him to continue ? He's been there 30 years too long. What I am concerned about is who will replace him. There is obviously a secular leadership vacuum there and my concern is that they will probably get stuck with a Mulla, which is not a move up from Hosni.

I am hoping that is not the case as they deserve better....

[anajmi]

There is obviously a secular leadership vacuum

And why is that fa_t? Does it take that much of a leap of imagination to figure out the simple answer to that question? There is a vacuum because your bitch stayed there for 30 years. Bought and paid for by your masters.

[Humsafar]

Surely, it can't be worse than the playground of 30 years of despotism and suppression supported and financed by the US - the Disneyland of free market and democracy!!!!

Isn't that what the Iranians said when they overthrew the Shah ?

Right!! Somehow "secularist" dictators violating human rights is more palatable to the Western conscience than Mullahs violating human rights!!

[Fatwa Banker]

That is a rather simplistic view that the masses are preoccupied with. The larger and more important issue at hand is why are Muslim leaders so easy to buy and ready to terrorize ther own populations, and once they get overthrown why are their replacements even more brutal ?

[Humsafar]

No sir, the unwashed masses are preoccupied with their immediate needs and basic freedoms. But it the midst of all their troubles they do question the double standards and hypocrisy of the West.

As for your larger question, the answer is simple: greed for wealth and power. It is typical of human behaviour. Given their oil wealth and strategic location vis a vis Israel, the US has an special interest in keeping the despots (who happen to be Muslims) tamed and pliant. They are "our" sons of bitches. Iran is the one that got away. It doesn't want to play ball and hence has been demonised as an evil incarnate. If Iran were to be easily bought over, I assure you, it would be the toast of the Western media - notwithstanding the mullahs terrorising their own populations.

[Fatwa Banker]

Since wealth and power is a typical human behavior are you inferring that if Norway, Sweden, Canada, Brazil, Australia, and France surrounded Israel, their leaders could also be bribed into being pawns and dictators ?

[Aarif]

There is obviously a secular leadership vacuum there and my concern is that they will probably get stuck with a Mulla, which is not a move up from Hosni.

Your concern is only oil. As long as you get it you give a rat's arse for who is leading that country. In fact one ex-CIA fart from Washington was telling the other day that Mubarak is a great friend of US. Hence, US will have to balance his interest along with the people of Eygypt as they do not wish to abandon their old friend in need. Your concern was never and should never be the people of middle east. Your concern for middle east will be equal to that for Africa if oil dries up in the Arab Land. So stop farting like a Washington bitch and come to the point. Your question should be will the new comer protect our interests in the middle east like Mubarak did? If the answer is yes you have found your new bitch...

[anajmi]

The larger and more important issue at hand is why are Muslim leaders so easy to buy and ready to terrorize ther own populations, and once they get overthrown why are their replacements even more brutal

The replacements are even more brutal because if one bitch is overthrown, the next one needs to be a bigger bitch. That is what your masters plan. What you should think about is why Muslim leaders need to be bought. Why do muslim populations need to be ruled by your bitches?

[ghulam muhammed]

Wary of Egypt Unrest, China Censors Web

BEIJING — In another era, China’s leaders might have been content to let discussion of the protests in Egypt float around among private citizens, then fizzle out.

But challenges in recent years to authoritarian governments around the globe and violent uprisings in parts of China itself have made Chinese officials increasingly wary of leaving such talk unchecked, especially on the Internet, the medium some officials see as central to fanning the flames of unrest.

So the arbiters of speech sprang into action over the weekend. Sina.com and Netease.com — two of the nation’s biggest online portals — blocked keyword searches of the word “Egypt,” though the mass protests were being discussed on some Internet chat rooms on Monday. Searching for “Egypt” has also been blocked on Weibo, the Chinese equivalent of Twitter.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/01/world ... &emc=tha26