WHY WE NEED CORRUPT DAI AND DAWAT?

[SAJJAD]

If one looks at the current mission of Mulla Burhanuddin and his mafia family, it’s plain to see that it’s all about robbing the community. Robbing not just our money, but our brains, determination, and something we will never get back – THE TIME.
The present scenario of our community evolves with un-Islamic rituals and dogma. The current dai and his zadas duties are as follows:
Lavish Ziyafat, bethak and salam, bow down and feet kissing,nikah ceremony for rich people, frequent trip to raudat tahera temple, business expo,inauguration of markaz,masjid or madrasa with pet name either burhania or saifia, numerous other money making schemes and list goes on.

I think most would agree that a true dai’s duties are the following – living a life of moderation -not eating out of a golden plate or requiring to live every moment of life in lavishness, helping the less fortunate members of our community -When has Burhanuddin ever thought of contributing to needy Bohras or any needy people in general?, serving as a role model to the community , knowledgeable in our Islamic beliefs and values - When will Burhanuddin ever give a speech without reading line by line from books written in 30 point font?, does not use position to abuse people , approachable in the sense that anyone can approach the dai without having to kiss a body part, pay salaam, or walk up with expensive gifts , and most importantly not a acting like a Yazid . Remember folks, Imam Hussein died to stop people like Yazid from “polluting” Islam. Unfortunately, the present dai has no regard for this principle. Do you think Burhanuddin is going to change for the better? For over 100 years the same trends have continued and I certainly don’t see them “reforming” themselves anytime soon. I suggest and feel that we should get rid of present dai and dawat. If we can have a dai that embodies and carries out the respective duties listed above, then I support having a dai with dawat.

For the past ten years or so Burhanuddin has invented matam to be carried out on every day and on every occasion. Before, matam was done only during the month of Muharram. My point is that these ............ woke up one day and decided to implement matam as a centerpoint of our ideology. Why? Obviously, the dai does it for personal gain and amassment of great fortunes. To top it off, Imam Hussain’s bayan occurs everyday to ensure we beat our chests. As I’ve said before, the Kothar uses same stereo type lectures to attack our emotions putting us in our most vulnerable state and allowing them to control us in ways we never thought possible. As a result of their forced control, families have split, best friends turning into enemies, and more hatred as filled our hearts and minds — All because one does not give full allegiance to the dai. And what’s worse, the kothar continuously preaches about alienating and cutting off all ties with anyone who questions the actions of the dai or kothar. How can we be happy with this type of dai?

The function of Burhanuddin and his mafia zadaas and their administration should be as simple and pious dai and not dictators. I don’t think the dai’s current role as dictator will progress anytime soon to a symbolic and spiritual “dai-like” figure. This is because the present regime and his family are infatuated with their thirst for more money and engage in corrupt practices along the way. This empire’s future successor was illegally selected using the same father-to-son transfer of power system we’ve seen take place for more than 100 years.

I think the way the situation is going; there is no need for a dai or dawat. As you can see very clearly for the past 100 years, Taher Saifuddin and Burhanuddin have converted our Islamic beliefs into a cult-like organization demanding full allegiance and isolation from non-Bohri believers. In addition, they impose unnecessary and heavy taxes to members of the community and continually innovate schemes to expand their coffers even more. Innovations such as worshipping, kissing, wadhawani rasam, raza, and pampering obviously displays the level the dai has made us all succumb to. Look at pictures on various kothar websites and one can plainly see what I am talking about. All these rituals benefits kothar and it has made their empire into a multi-billion dollar business.

The irony is that you don’t learn anything Islamic in kothar’s lackluster lectures. Every waaz or sabak is the same bullshit our ears have grown accustomed to. To sum it up, it’s all about praising Burhanuddin and chanting every five minutes, altogether, “ta qayamat tak jivo”, which is an impossible and brainless prayer. As many of you may agree in your hearts, but feel afraid to speak up due to potential repercussions, it’s time for Burhanuddin and his bandwagon to set sail.

The kothar’s use of “gripping our emotions” is a clever strategy employed to keep membership levels from declining. They sell Imam Hussein and Ahlul-Bait and made it a huge business by using Imam Hussein’s character and imposing poorjosh matam as a way to access our emotions. This scheme is their most successful one and has allowed them to make a lot of money. Imam Hussein and His Ahlul-Bait scarified themselves for saving Islam, but these idiots are making fortunes and manipulating our minds in the name of Imam Hussein.

The present old man still hasn’t retired even at his death bed. Instead, he wanders all over the world doing the same things as mentioned before. The last birthday – bash of Burhanuddin was a prime example of waste of millions of dollars, time and energy for months with lots of pomps and fanfare which was absolutely unnecessary. This act of worship and bowing down has certainly polluted our religion. Now is the time to abolish all of this nonsense and do something about it rather than act like a herd of sheep. Speak up and protest against them! Enough is enough. How long will we allow Burhanuddin to strip us of our rights and passion for a community that is based upon “original” Islamic principles, and not a reinvention of Islam like the kothar is engaging in?

Insha’Allah, I strongly believe a brighter future will lay ahead of us without a dai or dawat.

[labbaikyaHussain]

Congrates finally u made it out and understood what abdes was trying to say...leave dawat and dai and dont bother those who have slavish mentality leave them alone.and have your own way.

so now i hope this forum get shut down and every one is happy with there own life.without bothering each other

Finally every thing sorted out.

[sihh]

You are such a bad person having always something in your mind against DAA-I and DAAWAT because you itself don't deserve being from bohra . So they are not using your resources nor asking or forcing for money. "DAI-EE-S are those which has no values of money . MONEY ITSELF COMES IN FEET.

I think you can understand better. You still follow your father of fitnat ASGHER ENGINEER(laeen). You can never understood rutba of DAI.

Always remain confused. Becuase your are the one who born in confused.

[Hussain_KSA]

nahin sajjad nahin burhanuddin confused hai , unke harek photos me unki ankhen dikhti he like fool, fools ke sardaar wo dikhte he. Aur unhone harek city ,town me jo aamil bithaye he paise ki bhikh mangne. Your ... dai behave like goons. Your dai is fitnat ke sardaar, Madar moziza master ab is duniya se chale jaye to kaafi achha rahega.

Master boot

This is free forum but also represent progressive or reformist dawoodi bohras. If you are writing against progressives it is okey. We take it as your view or critisism but when you are writing in favor of pdb than people will think it is our stand.

I have requested you before and I would repeat it again that, " Please refrain from abusing Dai". Daiship of Syedna saheb is older than progressive movement. I think no sane person would support the language have used in your post.
Critisism for reform is welcome but abusing is not. I hope you would double check before sending any post. I must not say but it seems that you have no knowledge of dawat and chain of imams and dai. Even a common muslim would think twice before calling some one ........

Please don't let admin ban you from the forum.

[stranger]

Bro Hussain,

This is not the first time. .Master.Boot has a habit of coming up with such kind of non-sense.

[SBM]

Br. Hussain_KSA
I second you on your comments. I think some of the people think that abuse is rewarding. I have said we may disagree but we can be respectful and be civilized in our comments
May I suggest that Administration should consider deleting some of the words of abuse from both side and leave a blank in its place, that will also highlight who is most abuser (not abizer) on this forum

[master.b00t]

brother hussain aur oma daisam ke khilaf main nahin hun and i respect dai lekin kuchh samay se abdes behave very bad so jaan bhooj ke likha he unko chot pohnchane ke ki kaisa kadwa lagta he, dai se meri koi zaati dushmani nahin he but abdes behaves very badly and use bad words for any one so maine unko chot pohnchane ke liye aise words likhe. If any body hurtz i am heartly so sorry. Oma is right ye pabandhi admin ko dono aur se karne ki zaroorat he to ek doosare par abusing kum hoga. ne so maine unko chot pohnchane ke liye aise words likhe. If any body hurtz i am heartly so sorry. Oma is right ye pabandhi admin ko dono aur se karne ki zaroorat he to ek doosare par abusing kum hoga.

[Safiuddin]

Master Bhoot,

If you took one stand and stuck to it, I might say , Ok fine - that's how he (or she feels) - he is entitled to his opinion-
however unfavorable it may be with others. I'd even respect your ability to take a socially unappealing stand.
But in one post you call Burhanuddin a .....,
(which, by definition, he is not), and in the next post you claim you have no zaati dushmani against him. You state
"jaan bhooj ke likha he unko chot pohnchane ke", and "but abdes behaves very badly and use bad words for any one
so maine unko chot pohnchane ke liye aise words likhe".
THEN you apologize for hurting anyone's feelings - though you yourself state " jaan bhooj ke likha". Then you patronize Oma
in the hopes of deflecting others from your posting.

People like you inflame others, create strife, and then back off to watch the tamasha. Clearly you have no integrity -
you can't even decide which side of the street you'd like to walk on. You'd rather throw stones across and watch what happens.
When confonted, you'll state you never meant any harm.
I'm glad i have no one like you in my life - I would have to constantly pull the knife out of my back.

[Muslim First]

so now i hope this forum get shut down and every one is happy with there own life.without bothering each other
Finally every thing sorted out.

Labbaik
I feel your pain.
Why don't you leave this forum. Don't ever visit it. Spare yoursef pain and suffring.
Please do not forget to take your daily meds.

[labbaikyaHussain]

so now i hope this forum get shut down and every one is happy with there own life.without bothering each other
Finally every thing sorted out.

Labbaik
I feel your pain.
Why don't you leave this forum. Don't ever visit it. Spare yoursef pain and suffring.
Please do not forget to take your daily meds.

Miya bhai,

Alhumdollilah I dont need any med Allah is so merciful on momeen,munaafiq like u are paralyzed and tortured by angles.

[Muslim First]

Re: ASGHAR ENGINEER DIED
by ghulam muhammed on Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:31 pm

In a nutshell, you have proved that you are either mentally retarded or have a split personality like Dr.Jekkyl and Mr.Hide.

See brother you do need professional help.

[Maqbool]

Yes I also have noticed this. Muffadal bhaisaheb is performing 10 to 15 neekahs every day @ 3.5 lacks from boy and 1.5 from girl side.

If you see the akhbar of all the kothar controlled site you will see only news of Ziyafat, Nikas and Daris, where the money is involved. Is there any humanitarian works are performed by the DAI to be!!!