tamne su bare che

[profrog]

this is the question i want progs to answer,even if all bohras accept all your ridicolous claims to be true my question is tamne su bare che,yes we are slaves ,brainwashed,give money,follow syedna,pray for him, do as he says,but tamne su bare che its our choice if you do not like it **** off, and follow whatever and whoever you like,why do you insist on trying to be a part of us by now you should have realised we are not going to change so why dont stop

[profrog]

and please do not try to reply by abuses or trying to claim that you progs are also bohras you are certainly not dawoodi bohras,why dont you join the wahabis and try to reform them

[tahir]

why do you insist on trying to be a part of us by now you should have realised we are not going to change so why dont stop

profrog,
No body is trying to change you. You can do whatever you wish. The progressive movement is for real dawoodi bohras who wish to follow the ismaili/fatimid doctrine. You are apparently not a dawoodi bohra.

[like_minded]

why the emphasis on following?? are we living in 567 BC that we need some kind of following or belief to lead our lives??

[like_minded]

I am sure we all here are educated, knowing what is good and what is bad, so why do we need any kind of following? because this following often traps us and makes us vulnerable.

[tahir]

like_minded,
I was stating the official stand of progressive movement to whom pro frog's question was aimed.

[like_minded]

sorry tahir, i just got carried away. I mistook your last post.

[like_minded]

I was referring to all syedna followers.

[profrog]

then what are you trying to reform and why do you call yourselves reformists

[profrog]

why dont you progs form your own dawat then since you apparently believe that you are the true followers(ha ha ha) of the fatimid ismaili doctorine,please answer then who is your imamuz zaman right now

[profrog]

and if he is in satr who is the dai,because you cannot be true dawoodi bohras you claim to be and followers of fatimid/ismaili doctorine withoutone of them either you should have an imam or a dai in his abscence

[like_minded]

What good your dai has done to you except taken you away from truth, make a monkey out of you, extracted money from you, exploited you, insulted you, made you week, gutless morons.

[like_minded]

weak and not week

[like_minded]

froggie my dear,

Ask your dai and his kutumb to live like Moulana Ali, just for one day, just one day and not more, only if you have the guts to ask him.

[like_minded]

Not just sitting on the gaddi and talking about the miracles and "shaans" of all imams and dais.

[tahir]

Originally posted by profrog:
why dont you progs form your own dawat then since you apparently believe that you are the true followers(ha ha ha) of the fatimid ismaili doctorine,please answer then who is your imamuz zaman right now

Are you sure that Syedna Burhanuddin is the real dai? Report back with proofs.

[tahir]

Originally posted by profrog:
yes we are slaves ,brainwashed,give money,follow syedna,pray for him, do as he says,but tamne su bare che

Whom are you speaking for when you say 'we'? I mean out of one million plus, how many would actually agree with you? Ok, you and propig, who else?

[jinx]

Originally posted by profrog:
tamne su bare che its our choice if you do not like it **** off, and follow whatever and whoever you like,

:p Because we can. We have the freedom to do and say anything we want.

Originally posted by profrog:
yes we are slaves ,brainwashed,give money,follow syedna,pray for him, do as he says,but tamne su bare che its our choice

So what exactly is your point. If you dont feel the need to justify your "silly" belief then why should we ? :p

[profrog]

why do you want him to live like moula ali sa only why not imam moiz sa, and to those who who doubt wether he is the real dai do not follow him who is forcing you,

[like_minded]

Profrog,

Syedna has to practice what he preaches, often in his waaz, he talks about the lives of our Prophet, Moulana Ali, Imam Hussain etc., the SHAAN of all these great personalities and their MOZIJAS.

Tell me, what similarity do you find between our Syedna and our prophet?

Our prophet led a very simple life, though he had all means for materialistic gains, he condemned discrimination, believed and preached equality.

Do you find such qualities in our Syedna?? Ask yourself honestly.

[like_minded]

We are being totally misled here, I ask you Profrog, why does not our Syedna leave us alone? stop asking us to worship him, stop collecting money from this community? Why does he not give an account of money collected by him through out the year? Why is he not tranparent? Why does he force us to look like morons (STD)

[profrog]

tamne su bare che -that was my question,why do you care what he is like(rasullah or ali as) or whoever,or what we pay him or what we believe in him. just like somebody said that you have the freedom to chose so let us also have that freedom and if we chose to believe im him .tamne su bare che

[profrog]

you claim to be educated and clever so do not pay him anything leave the dawoodi bohras and join engineers

[like_minded]

I am sure, 1500 years back, people must have asked the same question to Prophet Mohammed, tamne su bare che? mind your own business, if we are interested in idol worship, it is our belief, why should you care, we have freedom to choose, so let us have our freedom!!

[like_minded]

Dear Profrog,

Please wake up, before its too late.

[like_minded]

Idol Worship is far better than human worship., atleast an idol in some way with belief can represent God., how can a human being?

[like_minded]

We are worse than the people in Prophets era.

[profrog]

you are probably right about the case of 1500 years ago that all the people did not follow the prophet, so right now you also need not follow the syedna and do what you like

[profrog]

wether we bohras are sleeping or awake or what we do is none of the progs bussiness ,we spend money but its our money,wes pend time but its our time,we do follow syedna but its we who do it so again the same question which nobody has answered TAMNE SU BARE CHE

[profrog]

wether we bohras are sleeping or awake or what we do is none of the progs bussiness ,we spend money but its our money,wes pend time but its our time,we do follow syedna but its we who do it so again the same question which nobody has answered TAMNE SU BARE CHE