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by humanbeing » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:24 am
Hi Boom
I understood your post is in general sense and not limited to this forum, my response was also in general. What goes on in this forums also goes on outside world during social interaction amongst bohra mumin, during get togethers, Thaals, Majalis and during other functions, people come together and gossip, discuss, debate, argue also fight with 2 different point of views which are debated here.
Majority of commoners and few sheikhs, mullas; complain, crib, whine, gossip about wrong doings in the local jamat and then discussion graduates to national and internatonal levels (Kothar levels)
With regards to freedom and rights, justice etc. Tell me honestly where is justice ?? We cant fight for someone else !! one has to realize his / her own rights and strive for freedom, justice, rights. In this world, the rule is “to each its own” and another saying “ Jo Jaage .. Uskaa Savera” (One who strives gets the truth)
Money is an issue !! because any manipulation, persuasion, force, oppression, injustice happens for the money, by the money, of the money !! Money brings power !!
Yes ! it is possible to reform faith. But only when Allah wishes and then when Allah’s banda wishes !! I have realized criticizing Sayedna Saheb or Kothar is not reforming faith !! (I m not accusing you, just making a general statement) (I too apologize for being hypocritical in this regard, I m in process of reforming my faith too ).
Explore the righteous teaching of Islam, practice common sense, logic and humane reasoning. I think this exercises are not rocket science, but we have become so terribly lazy or scared of truth.
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What ‘like-minded’ said is true, people live in denial of truth and living in imaginary justifications !!
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Dear Profastian
With reference to your search of goodness in the events your mentioned does not really hold true ! (in my opinion)
Majlis : Audience is; sleeping, playing on mobile phones, Chit-chatting, Brooding and Listening to the Majlis (marsiya, noha, zaroori elaan etc) now compare the percentage !!
Darees : Its is an event where relatives and friends are called for a lavish feast, followed after hurried recitation of Surat-el-yaseen, marsiya-e-husain (1 – 2 at the most) followed by flattering Amil Saheb or Presiding Janab by Hand / Knee kissing, plum salaam cover and extra ordinary lavish feast for his thaal. I attended one darees where an elderly man was doing salaam to young Presiding Janab and kissing his knees !! salaam ok !! but kissing knees ?? is this acceptable !! is this goodness ??
Maatam : Dear friend, ask your conscience, what is happening to maatam !! I m not asking you a question to answer me, but answer yourself. Is Maatam an act of grief and pain so intense for Imaam Hussain & Shaheed – e - Karbala or a ritual for long life of Sayedna ?
Ziafat : What is the latest rate ?? Across the levels ?? Do I need to say more ??
Kadambosi : What form of Ibadat of Allah can be Kadambosi ? There are 10 ways of showing respect to someone without degrading your ownself !! have you experienced how commoners are treated during Kadambosi session, young and old are stuffed like cattle in lines and blocks, then they are allowed the sharaf of kadambosi like a prisoner and pushed / shoved aside like a heap of garbage. If you justify rush and crowd !! is it really a need by sayedna sahib to allow such treatment of his beloved farzando !!
Nazrul Makam : I had asked you this question earlier also, but did not get any response. Never mind. Keeping aside some cash as a bribe / insurance to get your work done. Who are we bribing ?? Allah ?? Allah is merciful my friend, just call out Allah and you shall be blessed with what you deserve.
There is goodness in all this events my friend.. only when …..
Majlis : Is a gathering of people to listen to Islam’s stories of compassion, honesty and brotherhood, where orator hold the audiene by his content.
Darees : Is organized in praise and contentment of Allah, Praise of Rasool, ahlebayt, Imaam and Dai Zamaan followed with lavish feast to celebrate an occasion in the house.
Maatam : Is when its done by expressing genuine grief for Shaheed – e – karbala, be it rare, be it little, be it less, be it slow, be it low, but honest. What sayedna says is also right – “ Ek aansu to Imam hussain maate aave che” Hey profastian, Gam – e – Hussain is so pure and intense, you don’t need any cajoling or encouragement, just remember the event, if your eyes fill with tears, it’s a Maatam in itself !!
Ziafat : Is when Sayedna Saheb, visits mumin house with compassion, generosity and to give blessing and barakat, by givin money..!! visit houses of the poor, give them money, (not crores, not lakhs) but enough to solve their chronic problems. Give ziafat to sick and needy, Conduct Test / Examination and proof of credentials before allotting or awarding titles.
Kadambosi : Abolish it !!
Nazrul Makaam : Sadaka is much better form of pleasing / bribing Allah. Give sadaka, not only by money, but by kind, by time, by words, by actions, by behavior, by respect.
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Dear Like-minded
Yes there is goodness in this events !!
I've tried discussing with bohra psychologist, bohra doctors, bohra engineers, bohra sheik, bohra Mulla, common bohra, abdes, bohras that indulge in prostitution, adultery, alcohol, chewing "miraa" eat "pan" with tobacco, smoke and I've even tried talking to the poorest bohra but no one is ready or willing to say a word against our Dai, syedna mohammed burhanuddin or the Dawat.. Sorry for this stupid example, but even if I had shown a photo with a pig, or holding a bottle of alcohol or a naked women sitting on his lap, they just don't care because they have faith and believe in him.. 
), I'm asking a serious question.. How many of you reform minded people have managed to change someone attitude or even managed, someone to leave the community??
?? Oh well then, I'll just keep on rambling..
To hell with justice for this people.. They will never wake up and they don't deserve it..