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After seeing this article how many of you in forum support Afghanistan people, as Afghanistan is Muslim country, and i think 80% of member in progressive Dagwood Bohra forum are Muslim.
Vote for Afghanistan
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Kaka Akela
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Re: Vote for Afghanistan
What do you mean by supporting Afghan people??? I support the young girls that are imprisoned, suppressed and persecuted and the ones that are killed in honor killings. Most Men of Afghanistan are good fighters but Jaahil and easily misguided by the taliban and behave in a very deragatory manner towards women. As far as I am concerned there are only two types of women in this world, 1) good 2) better. And there are two types of men in this world, 1) ones who know this and 2) ones who don't know this. Women when treated properly will flourish and when mistreated
they will wither. May Allah help all the men of the islamic Ummah to learn to treat their women with love and kindness.
they will wither. May Allah help all the men of the islamic Ummah to learn to treat their women with love and kindness.
Re: Vote for Afghanistan
mr kaka akela and kaki akeli,
my meaning is that how many of u support that afghanistan is a corrupt and terrirosm and not good for women in that country. Even its a muslim country, than y people doing such a thing to women, in islam women are keep in top, than y its happening in afghan.
my meaning is that how many of u support that afghanistan is a corrupt and terrirosm and not good for women in that country. Even its a muslim country, than y people doing such a thing to women, in islam women are keep in top, than y its happening in afghan.
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Kaka Akela
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Re: Vote for Afghanistan
Allush: only kaka akela wrote, where did this kaki akeli came from??
I wish you will take some classes in learning English as second language and write some essays to practice writing skill.
Your english is so atrocious (whether intentional for hiding your identity) that it becomes very muddy to understand.
Sorry, I am not being critical but only trying to be helpful to see you improved.
I wish you will take some classes in learning English as second language and write some essays to practice writing skill.
Your english is so atrocious (whether intentional for hiding your identity) that it becomes very muddy to understand.
Sorry, I am not being critical but only trying to be helpful to see you improved.
Re: Vote for Afghanistan
that is right wy womun in afghan in treble? if you progress then why wiman not progress in aghafan? bomb afgahn to progress muslim womin, but weight, we bomb afghan min and wumaan bomb more.
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Al Zulfiqar
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Re: Vote for Afghanistan
allush,allush wrote:
i think 80% of..... Dagwood Bohra..... are Muslim.
in fact 100% of "Dagwood" abdesyedna Bohras are not muslim. asking them to support the afghanis is like asking fanatic hindus to read the quran!!!
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ghulam muhammed
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MTV Founder Sets Sights On Afghan TV
“All Americans ever see of Afghanistan is the brown mountains in the war footage and things getting blown up, but when you spend time at Tolo TV, you get a feeling of what this place could be.”
These are the words of MTV co-founder Tom Freston who has recently signed on as a board member and adviser with Moby Group which is considered as the largest Media Group in Afghanistan. In reality, it is a front for the US state department and various US based media organizations such as NewsCorp (owned by Rupert Murdoch), MTV networks and others for changing the Afghan psyche.
It is operating in Afghanistan behind the mask of Tolo TV which is owned by Moby Group which was founded by Afghan entrepreneur Saad Mohseni and his family. The Mohsenis' father, Yassin, was a diplomat under the Daoud regime of the 1970s. When the Soviets invaded Afghanistan in 1979, Yassin Mohseni resigned as second-in-charge at Afghanistan's Tokyo embassy, and in 1982 the family, including the boys' sister, Wajma, now 30, and mother Safia, migrated to Australia. When the Taliban fell in late 2001, Saad was a stockbroker, Zaid a lawyer and Jahid a financial analyst. Saad Mohseni holds British citizenship also.
Tolo TV was first launched in Kabul but as of November 2007, has broadcasts in 14 cities in Afghanistan on free-to-air and throughout the region by satellite.
This was right after the military invasion of Afghanistan by the US and her allies. The military invasion was followed by a cultural invasion, the standard bearers being the NGOs and the so called aid agencies. Tolo TV’s initial startup costs were supported by the United States Agency for International Development (USAID). Like Kabul's private FM station Radio Arman -- this also was created by Mohseni’s family with help from USAID. A portion of Moby’s advertising budget comes from foreign governments and N.G.O.s; recruitment ads for the Afghan Army and police are designed by Lapis, Moby’s ad agency, and paid for by the U.S. through the Afghan government. And the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) IS among Tolo’s top fifteen advertisers.
Without the U.S. government’s financing for infrastructure, Moby would not exist. The US State Department has budgeted seventy-two million dollars this fiscal year for “communications and public diplomacy” in Afghanistan – in other words, to use “soft power” for psychological occupation of the Muslim masses of Afghanistan and to salvage whatever they can in the face of humiliating defeat at the hands of the Afghans.
U.S. A.I.D. sponsors “On the Road,” a weekly reality show. The show, which airs Saturday nights on Tolo, is hosted by twenty-two-year-old named Mujeeb Arez, who travels through Afghanistan by jeep—often on highways freshly paved by U.S.A.I.D. funds—talking with residents and exploring local customs, delicacies, and indigenous commerce. In areas where it is too dangerous to travel by jeep, U.S.A.I.D. has supplied a helicopter to ferry the crew. The aim of the show: to project a positive image of the Occupation Forces.
Another such program beamed by Tolo TV is “Hop.” It is a nightly one-hour music video program. The format is similar to that of MTV – with an Afghan twist. It broadcasts songs of Madonna and Jennifer Lopez. Music videos by Iranian, Turkish and Indian singers are also aired. The program is presented by two young males and a female. Their aim –
"By playing these songs, we would like to motivate our singers and actors to become famous like Western artists such as Ricky Martin and Jennifer Lopez,"
Then they have two more programs which are directly funded by the US state department "Eagle Four” and "Birth of an Army". The former is a police drama pitting the cops against the Taliban and the latter is a “reality show” of the puppet army Vs the Taliban. The aim here is to galvanize the Afghans behind the corrupt puppet forces, create pleasant stereotypes of the otherwise hated puppets and hated stereotypes of the Talibans.
“All Americans ever see of Afghanistan is the brown mountains in the war footage and things getting blown up, but when you spend time at Tolo TV, you get a feeling of what this place could be.”
These are the words of MTV co-founder Tom Freston who has recently signed on as a board member and adviser with Moby Group which is considered as the largest Media Group in Afghanistan. In reality, it is a front for the US state department and various US based media organizations such as NewsCorp (owned by Rupert Murdoch), MTV networks and others for changing the Afghan psyche.
It is operating in Afghanistan behind the mask of Tolo TV which is owned by Moby Group which was founded by Afghan entrepreneur Saad Mohseni and his family. The Mohsenis' father, Yassin, was a diplomat under the Daoud regime of the 1970s. When the Soviets invaded Afghanistan in 1979, Yassin Mohseni resigned as second-in-charge at Afghanistan's Tokyo embassy, and in 1982 the family, including the boys' sister, Wajma, now 30, and mother Safia, migrated to Australia. When the Taliban fell in late 2001, Saad was a stockbroker, Zaid a lawyer and Jahid a financial analyst. Saad Mohseni holds British citizenship also.
Tolo TV was first launched in Kabul but as of November 2007, has broadcasts in 14 cities in Afghanistan on free-to-air and throughout the region by satellite.
This was right after the military invasion of Afghanistan by the US and her allies. The military invasion was followed by a cultural invasion, the standard bearers being the NGOs and the so called aid agencies. Tolo TV’s initial startup costs were supported by the United States Agency for International Development (USAID). Like Kabul's private FM station Radio Arman -- this also was created by Mohseni’s family with help from USAID. A portion of Moby’s advertising budget comes from foreign governments and N.G.O.s; recruitment ads for the Afghan Army and police are designed by Lapis, Moby’s ad agency, and paid for by the U.S. through the Afghan government. And the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) IS among Tolo’s top fifteen advertisers.
Without the U.S. government’s financing for infrastructure, Moby would not exist. The US State Department has budgeted seventy-two million dollars this fiscal year for “communications and public diplomacy” in Afghanistan – in other words, to use “soft power” for psychological occupation of the Muslim masses of Afghanistan and to salvage whatever they can in the face of humiliating defeat at the hands of the Afghans.
U.S. A.I.D. sponsors “On the Road,” a weekly reality show. The show, which airs Saturday nights on Tolo, is hosted by twenty-two-year-old named Mujeeb Arez, who travels through Afghanistan by jeep—often on highways freshly paved by U.S.A.I.D. funds—talking with residents and exploring local customs, delicacies, and indigenous commerce. In areas where it is too dangerous to travel by jeep, U.S.A.I.D. has supplied a helicopter to ferry the crew. The aim of the show: to project a positive image of the Occupation Forces.
Another such program beamed by Tolo TV is “Hop.” It is a nightly one-hour music video program. The format is similar to that of MTV – with an Afghan twist. It broadcasts songs of Madonna and Jennifer Lopez. Music videos by Iranian, Turkish and Indian singers are also aired. The program is presented by two young males and a female. Their aim –
"By playing these songs, we would like to motivate our singers and actors to become famous like Western artists such as Ricky Martin and Jennifer Lopez,"
Then they have two more programs which are directly funded by the US state department "Eagle Four” and "Birth of an Army". The former is a police drama pitting the cops against the Taliban and the latter is a “reality show” of the puppet army Vs the Taliban. The aim here is to galvanize the Afghans behind the corrupt puppet forces, create pleasant stereotypes of the otherwise hated puppets and hated stereotypes of the Talibans.
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ghulam muhammed
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Re: Vote for Afghanistan
This War Is Not Over Yet
THE defense secretary, Leon E. Panetta, recently announced that America hoped to end its combat mission in Afghanistan in 2013 as it did in Iraq last year. Yet at Guantánamo Bay and elsewhere, the United States continues to hold enemy detainees “for the duration of hostilities.”
But there is a disconnect today between the wars that are ending and the “war” that is used to justify ongoing detention of prisoners. Originally, the war in Afghanistan was part of the Bush administration’s “war on terror.” This framing had rhetorical power, but it quickly drew criticism because a war on terror has no boundaries in space or time, and no prospect of ever ending.
The “end of combat” in Afghanistan, slated for 2013, could become yet another made-for-media event. But at the very least it should force Americans to confront the contradiction of ending two wars while invoking a nebulous and never-ending third one to justify the continued detention of prisoners.
Like the Bush administration’s version of the war on terror, this war with Al Qaeda allows us to follow our enemies wherever they may go. It also enables us to continue framing terrorists as warriors, subject to detention without charges as long as threats related to Al Qaeda exist.
Mr. Obama is trying to have it both ways. Ending major conflicts in two countries helps him deliver on campaign promises. But his expansive definition of war leaves in place the executive power to detain without charges, and to exercise war powers in any region where Al Qaeda has a presence.
By asserting, for political purposes, that the nation’s two wars are ending while planning behind the scenes for a longer-term war against Al Qaeda terrorists, the man who pledged to bring America’s wars to an end has instead laid the basis for an endless battle.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/16/opini ... emc=tha212
THE defense secretary, Leon E. Panetta, recently announced that America hoped to end its combat mission in Afghanistan in 2013 as it did in Iraq last year. Yet at Guantánamo Bay and elsewhere, the United States continues to hold enemy detainees “for the duration of hostilities.”
But there is a disconnect today between the wars that are ending and the “war” that is used to justify ongoing detention of prisoners. Originally, the war in Afghanistan was part of the Bush administration’s “war on terror.” This framing had rhetorical power, but it quickly drew criticism because a war on terror has no boundaries in space or time, and no prospect of ever ending.
The “end of combat” in Afghanistan, slated for 2013, could become yet another made-for-media event. But at the very least it should force Americans to confront the contradiction of ending two wars while invoking a nebulous and never-ending third one to justify the continued detention of prisoners.
Like the Bush administration’s version of the war on terror, this war with Al Qaeda allows us to follow our enemies wherever they may go. It also enables us to continue framing terrorists as warriors, subject to detention without charges as long as threats related to Al Qaeda exist.
Mr. Obama is trying to have it both ways. Ending major conflicts in two countries helps him deliver on campaign promises. But his expansive definition of war leaves in place the executive power to detain without charges, and to exercise war powers in any region where Al Qaeda has a presence.
By asserting, for political purposes, that the nation’s two wars are ending while planning behind the scenes for a longer-term war against Al Qaeda terrorists, the man who pledged to bring America’s wars to an end has instead laid the basis for an endless battle.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/16/opini ... emc=tha212
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ghulam muhammed
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The story of the Afghan Jews is one of remarkable tolerance
It may seem hard to believe, but historically it was the ancient Afghan cities to which Jews turned when escaping persecution
It was in the dusty, ancient cities of Herat and Kabul, to the west and the east of Afghanistan, that they found freedom to practise their faith without getting murdered in the process. A community of leather and karakul merchants, poor people and money lenders alike, the large Jewish families mostly lived in the border city of Herat, while the families' patriarchs travelled back and forth on trading trips, moving between Iran, Afghanistan, India and central Asia on the ancient silk road.
The Jews did not engage in farming, which restricted their means of earning a living. Like many other Afghans, they survived through trade, taking lengthy and often dangerous trips across the majestic mountains on whose rocks their prayers were carved in Hebrew and sometimes even Aramaic.
Like Afghan Hindus and Muslims, their sacred sites, too, were located in faraway, hard-to-reach places while their holy language was not the official language of the nation. Isolated and yet connected through the invisible ties of spirituality, Afghan Jews were much like the rest of Afghans, sharing with the Sunni Pashtuns in particular a belief in being descended from the biblical lost tribes. Such similarities were ultimately why a peaceful coexistence was possible between Jewish and Muslim Afghans for most of their shared history, which dates back to the medieval times.
The Afghans' isolation from the rest of the world was a blessing in disguise for the Jewish community because being cut off from global political trends meant that ordinary Afghans were untouched by the raging, European-led, antisemitism of the early 20th century. Even at the height of the Nazi influence in Kabul of the 1930s, it was Afghan nationalism rather than antisemitism that led the government to introduce economic measures that bankrupted Jewish money-lending families.
The laws affecting the Jewish community were soon removed and in the following decades Afghanistan was the only Muslim country that allowed Jewish families to immigrate without revoking their citizenship first. When Afghan Jews left the country en masse in the 1960s, their exile to New York and Tel Aviv was motivated by a search for a better life but not because of religious persecution.
A brutal truth of the cruelty of life in Afghanistan, for example, is summed up at the end of the Jewish folktale Moses and the Ants: "When the fire rages in the wood, it burns the bad trees and the good."
Now all are burned.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... -tolerance
It may seem hard to believe, but historically it was the ancient Afghan cities to which Jews turned when escaping persecution
It was in the dusty, ancient cities of Herat and Kabul, to the west and the east of Afghanistan, that they found freedom to practise their faith without getting murdered in the process. A community of leather and karakul merchants, poor people and money lenders alike, the large Jewish families mostly lived in the border city of Herat, while the families' patriarchs travelled back and forth on trading trips, moving between Iran, Afghanistan, India and central Asia on the ancient silk road.
The Jews did not engage in farming, which restricted their means of earning a living. Like many other Afghans, they survived through trade, taking lengthy and often dangerous trips across the majestic mountains on whose rocks their prayers were carved in Hebrew and sometimes even Aramaic.
Like Afghan Hindus and Muslims, their sacred sites, too, were located in faraway, hard-to-reach places while their holy language was not the official language of the nation. Isolated and yet connected through the invisible ties of spirituality, Afghan Jews were much like the rest of Afghans, sharing with the Sunni Pashtuns in particular a belief in being descended from the biblical lost tribes. Such similarities were ultimately why a peaceful coexistence was possible between Jewish and Muslim Afghans for most of their shared history, which dates back to the medieval times.
The Afghans' isolation from the rest of the world was a blessing in disguise for the Jewish community because being cut off from global political trends meant that ordinary Afghans were untouched by the raging, European-led, antisemitism of the early 20th century. Even at the height of the Nazi influence in Kabul of the 1930s, it was Afghan nationalism rather than antisemitism that led the government to introduce economic measures that bankrupted Jewish money-lending families.
The laws affecting the Jewish community were soon removed and in the following decades Afghanistan was the only Muslim country that allowed Jewish families to immigrate without revoking their citizenship first. When Afghan Jews left the country en masse in the 1960s, their exile to New York and Tel Aviv was motivated by a search for a better life but not because of religious persecution.
A brutal truth of the cruelty of life in Afghanistan, for example, is summed up at the end of the Jewish folktale Moses and the Ants: "When the fire rages in the wood, it burns the bad trees and the good."
Now all are burned.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... -tolerance