Was it really a Suicide Bombing !

[Saifuddin]

The Mirror 16 July 2005

EXCLUSIVE

Why did they buy return train tickets to Luton? Why did they buy pay &display tickets for cars? Why were there no usual shouts of 'Allah Akhbar'? Why were bombs in bags and not on their bodies?

By Jeff Edwards

THE London bombers may have been duped into killing themselves so their secrets stayed hidden.

Police and MI5 are probing if the four men were told by their al-Qaeda controller they had time to escape after setting off timers. Instead, the devices exploded immediately.

A security source said: "If the bombers lived and were caught they'd probably have cracked. Would their masters have allowed that to happen? We think not."

The evidence is compelling: The terrorists bought return rail tickets, and pay and display car park tickets, before boarding _ a train at Luton for London. None of the men was heard to cry "Allah Akhbar!" - "God is great" - usually screamed by suicide bombers as they detonate their bomb.

Their devices were in large rucksacks which could be easily dumped instead of being strapped to their bodies. They carried wallets containing their driving licences, bank cards and other personal items. Suicide bombers normally strip themselves of identifying material.

Similar terror attacks against public transport in Madrid last year were carried out by recruits who had time to escape and planned to strike again.

Bomber Hasib Hussain detonated his device at the rear of the top deck of a No 30 bus, not in the middle of the bottom deck where most damage would be caused.

Additionally, two of the bombers had strong personal reasons for staying alive.

Jermaine Lindsay's partner Samantha Lewthwaite, 22, mother of his one-year-old son, is expecting her second baby within days. Mohammed Sidique Khan's wife Hasina, mum of a 14-month-old daughter, is also pregnant.

Our source disclosed: "The theory that they were not a suicide squad is gathering pace. They were the weakest link.

"We think it's possible they were told that when they pressed buttons to set off timers they'd have a short time to abandon the bombs and get away before the blast. Instead, the bombs exploded immediately."

Another intelligence source added: "Whoever is behind this didn't want to waste their best operatives on a suicide mission. Instead they used easily recruited low-grade men who may have believed they'd walk away."

At least 54 people were killed in the 7/7 blasts. Khan, 30, of Dewsbury, Shehzad Tanweer, 22, of Leeds, and Jamaican-born Lindsay, 19, of Aylesbury, Bucks, detonated devices on the Tube at Edgware Road, Aldgate and King's Cross.

Hussain, 18, of Leeds, blasted the bus at Tavistock Square. The Tube explosions went off almost simultaneously. But the bus went up an hour later.

Yesterday, Hussain's family told of their horror at the teenager's involvement in the massacre. They said in a statement: "We are devastated over the events of the past few days. Hasib was a loving and normal young man who gave us no concern and we are having difficulty taking this in.

"Our thoughts are with all the bereaved families. We have to live with the loss of our son in these difficult circumstances.

"We had no knowledge of his activities and, had we done, we would have done everything in our power to stop him. We urge anyone with information to cooperate fully with the authorities."

Police are urgently investigating the missing 81 minutes between Hussain arriving from Luton in London and the time his bomb went off.

His device may have malfunctioned. He may have lost his nerve. Or he may have panicked when he discovered the Northern Line, on which he is thought to have been due to travel, was suspended.

Officers want to discover if Hussain met anyone else who either strengthened his faltering resolve or reset his flawed bomb.

[anajmi]

There was no suicide bombing. It is a US/UK conspiracy against Islam and Muslims to steal their land and their oil.

[babu]

what you are doing is none other than suicide bombing.
Allah ishabak Fid-dunia wal Ukhra ... insha-allah

[anajmi]

babu,

boo, now go change your pants.

[babu]

Originally posted by anajmi:
babu,

boo, now go change your pants.

Ek gal dass :-

teri koi readymade garments ki ya tailoring shop hai.... jo sabhi ki pant change karwata phirta hai ?

[anajmi]

nahin yaar, kothar ke raaj mein pant ki factory kahan khulegi, par kothar ke chamche baar baar pant gili kar dete hain, zara awaz ki, boo, ke pant gili. Isiliye kahaa ki pant badli kar le.

tussi bhi to kothar de chamche which right?

[babu]

ooooo ab pata laga menu
tussee sabhi dee chaddiyaan badalte phirte ho

[anajmi]

sabhi ki nahin bhaiyya, sirf kothar ke chamchon ki.

[babu]

Now Everyone know what are you guys doing with this Forum / Message Boards ....
Using your time and money(sure not yours)very well ....

[tahir]

GAUD!! here we stand exposed ...babu bhai ye pol kholi nakhi...

[porus]

Nahin, nahin bhai. Pol Babu ne nahi kholi. Pant uski bigri. Dekho, dekho sharm se bhaga jaa raha hai.

Koi baat nahi Babuji. Tumahare liye yeh chotisi lori. Magar tumahari mummi ko nahi, sirf tumhen gana padegi

mera joota hai Burhani
yeh patloon meri bigri
sir pe qoumi topi meri
jannat meri qadam bosi

chamcho ka mein shahzada
progressives se kya darna
hindi meri french jaisi hai
un logon ke liye kafi hai
bus meri khudki ek shayeri

mera joota hai burhani....

[Average Bohra]

You are on to something here, Porus ! I have a suggestion for a 3rd. verse [feel free to edit]:

Mera kurta hai Burhani
yeh hey phook walla pani
sir pey Sheik kee topi pahni
meri bibi hey Shahzadi

[tahir]

he he...here is my contribution to our collective attempt at being creative....

Mera chehra hai noorani
Kurta saaya sherwani
Sar pe gole topi goothi
Phir bhi dil hai jamatkhani

Salaam mein kya hai aanakaani
Piyo phook wala pani
Zyafat mein jaane ka phal hai
Sab ko pepsi aur biryani

Khuda/Rasool se bhi upar hai
Saifudeen ke ye jaani
Choomo haath pair in ke
Dalo in ko daana paani

[anajmi]

babu,

ab to pant jarror gili ho gayee hogi. Jaa badal le.

[babu]

Kya hua ??
JALEE KYA ???
Jalan bahut hai kya ?
aur agar jalan kam nahin hoti to seedhey Swami agnivesh, Engineer Asghar Ali ya Saifuddin Insaaf se contact karne ka ..kya .......

[porus]

Are Babuji! Yeh kya "jali, jalan" ki lat lagaaye rahte ho!! Sab se achcha nuskha to aapne bataya hi nahi. Khair, mmein hi bata deta hun.

" Jao, phook wala pani pi lo"

[anajmi]

yaa to phool wale pani se dho lo

[anajmi]

mera matlab hai "phook" wale paani se dho lo.

[Humsafar]

I simply could not resist....

Babuji dhire chalna, Kothar se zara sambhalna
Bade dhokhe hain, bade dhokhe hain is raah mein
Baabuji dhire chalna.

Kyu ho khoye huye sar latkaaye, jaise tumhari jalti koyi na bujhaye
Ye to babuji pehla misaq hai, nazar aayengey abhi din mein taare
Bade dhokhe hain, bade dhokhe hain is raah mein
Baabuji dhire chalna.

[Amicus Mellitus]

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Average Bohra
- posted 06-27-2005 08:16 PM

Bad etiquette & rude to say the least.....

I am sure there are non-English discussion boards out there that will give you guys an elevated linguistic rise.
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Why don't people practice what they preach

Others are welcome to post in languages of their choice

[porus]

Oh Babu, I could not resist this either. Another song for you to sing in front of your bathroom mirror! :p

mein jahan jahan chaloonga, mera saya sath hoga
mera saya, mera saya

kabhi razor mere haath aayi
to wahi pe rauk legi
katne se meri daadhi
meri lambi, lambi daadhi
katne se bachegi, kyun ki mera saya sath hoga

mein agar topi bhool jaaoon
sir mera ganja ho jaaye
yeh bhool kabhi na hogi
mere maula ki dua se
is liye keh raha hun, mera saya sath hoga

progressives se babu ko bacahye
imaan mera mazboot ho jaye
jab mein message board par likhu
mere dil se laanat zabaan par aaye
is liye phir se likh raha hun, mera saya sath hoga

[anajmi]

Guys,

Screw the freaking kothari chamcha. Let's figure out if it was a suicide bombing!!

[anajmi]

I apologize but I have to give in to this temptation.

Main Chamchaa to nahin
magar aye kothari
jabse dekha
maine tujhko mujhko
kadam bosi -eeeee - aa gayee.

[anajmi]

main chor to nahin
magar aye kothari
jabse dekha
maine tujhko mujhko
zakat khani aa gayee

[Average Bohra]

Average Bohra posted 06-29-2005
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Caput tuum in ano est, Amicus. Futue te ipsum!
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[Average Bohra]

[Amicus Mellitus]

AB

Last time I kept quiet for and told you to be civil,

I ignored the language you used last time but since you repeat the same rubbsih in a language of which you have no knowledge, I can only say you are an not civilized enough to be spoken to. Naturally your upbringing and family background is showing

Amicus

[Amicus Mellitus]

I am sure most of us on this message board are civilized people, but just in case if you need to discuss the family tree of some below average moron in Hebrew, Icelandic or any other language of your choice visit THIS PLACE

[tahir]

The Al kothar ul bimariya tuz saifiya shifakhana has prescribed a special "phook nu pani" for babu...a phook from the rear end of mulla burhanuddin generally accompanied by a bass melody (post zyafat)...to be administered in doses of 52ml thrice a day.

[anajmi]

Amicus,

I don't think family background or upbringing has anything to do with it. Look at the upbringing and the family background of the biggest moron on earth who is currently leading these Average Morons!! My 3 year old daughter comes up with better sentences than he does!!

So, even if you have the best possible upbringing and a great family background, you could still turn out to be an Average Moron.