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[Muslim First]

Administration:

Is there any reason you closed " Why do Ismailies take pride in calling themselves muslims?"

[Aarif]

Yes, even I would like to know that...

[Muslim First]

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I think all of us showed great restraint.

I would hope Zan will become AGA Khan's official spoke person.And put forth all the points in Public.

[Aarif]

My suggestion is that going forward the Admin should post the reason for closing the topic before closing it so that we know why it is closed... I would request the Admin to resume this topic as it was getting interesting...

[turbocanuck]

Replying in "one" liners was getting interesting .eh?.....exactly....very interesting......you "deroggatory" man....you Mr.Garbage Dump must be a scholar from the University of Deoband.. eh? ..... wy close eh?/

[Aarif]

Looks like the Trash Can got relocated...

[znanwalla]

If the Admin closed it then we should all respect their decision ! It is their prerogative ultimately ! Whether I am a spokesperson or not is a secondary issue ! We are all used to hearing cheesy remarks all the time....it is unreasonable to simply ask and expect replies and yet not answer questions posed ! Thank you ! ZN

[anajmi]

I think it was a good idea on Admin's part to close that thread. It was getting meaningless. Consider znan's three line post. That is a first.

znan,

I have a hard time believing that this true Imam of yours is the best person on quranic knowledge and yet you can't find a single ayah quoted by him in any one of his hundreds of speeches. How am I supposed to believe he is the True Imam? Wait, according to the Ismailis, since Shia and Sunnis are killing each other and there are people who abuse their wives, therefore, Aga Khan is the True Imam. Now who can argue with that kind of logic.

Thank you, but no thank you sir!!

[Africawala0000]

Anajmi,

If Admin closes the topic it does not take you, MFr and your Umma, long to start another thread. Wherever you go we will follow you to protect our faith and our Imam.

And now for your stupid as always, question,

I have a hard time believing that this true Imam of yours is the best person on quranic knowledge and yet you can't find a single ayah quoted by him in any one of his hundreds of speeches.

When Aga Khan speaks in public he has to respect the public and does not have to undermine their intelligence, the way you do. I am sure you went searching for his interpretation so you can amuse yourself and your jahaliyas. You had no good intentions. This is the only thing you have in your miserable life to console you. How pathetic.

Therefore, in his speeches or interviews you will see him speaking about preserving the Islamic Architecture, Islamic values, culture, how Islam is a compassionate religion and should be viewed as such and should not be judged by the events in the Middle East and elsewhere which have nothing to do with Islam, but everything to do with the political reasons which have not be resolved.

He will speak about education, and health and poverty...If he interpets a Sura or ayah, people would feel offended that He was imposing his belief on others. And those like you will find every excuse to belittle him even when he is right.

Interpreting Qur'an to Jahaliyas is not his job - even the Prophet was tormented - Jahaliyas have pedophile Mullahs who think if the truth is taught to people, they will be out of work and hence they cannot abuse kids or women. They, like you, will be the first ones to condemn Aga Khan and turn the countries upside down.

Look at all the work he does in the world while your own have neglected you and are having good life, yet you guys have never appreciated that and have just gone on to abuse him.

Yes, he is the true Imam on earth. Unless and until the other 2 come out from their "Pardas" and challenge him, He will be considered the only and True Imam. Have you seen how many people are converting to Ismailism, although conversion is not an easy process? It takes 2 years or more to convert. A learned scholar of one of the Sects of Islam converted and brought a few more with him, right here in the U.S. There are more in Canada.

This is why Maherally is shaking and hence his vandetta against the Ismailis. A non-Ismaili, a Buddhist, by name of Jim Davis, has written books refuting Maherally's lies.

When our Imam is with us, he does quote Suras/ayahs which are relevant to the community and in our religious life. The emphasis is always on spiritual progress. Don't ask me to share it with you because your understanding is limited.

Now tell me the suras/ayahs Abu Bakar, Umar and Othman interpreted and give me references because I will check them. Let us see their interpretations to the Umma.

Had they interpreted the Qur'an properly as it should have been, without using certain suras and ayahs to serve their agendas, the Umma would not have been in such a chaos.

Islam is a religion of Peace, tolerance, Love, respect and is very diverse. However, jerks like you have made it look like the religion of the pagans, hatred, intolerance and disrespectful towards other beliefs. Just look at the gutter you and your MFr and the two chuhas have been unleashing here, and then you call yourselves Muslims!

Brothers Znan and Porus showed so much restraint, but you 4 were trying to get to them and bring them to your level. This is the approach you use hoping to intimidate and chase people away so you can have a clear field to attack us in our absence. You are the cowards of a cult that believes they are Muslims but in reality are just Jahaliyas like Abu Jahal and the People of Taif.

Africawala

[anajmi]

Don't ask me to share it with you because your understanding is limited.

Now tell me the suras/ayahs Abu Bakar, Umar and Othman interpreted and give me references because I will check them.

Don't ask me to share it with you because your understanding is limited.

:p

[anajmi]

Now tell me the suras/ayahs Abu Bakar, Umar and Othman interpreted and give me references because I will check them.

I do not claim that Hazrat Abu Bakr, Hazrat Umar and Hazrat Othman are the sole authoritative interpreters of the quran and neither do I claim to follow them. So it doesn't matter if they interpreted the quran or not or whether they quoted the quran or not. Also, they didn't claim to be the living qurans or the bolta qurans of their times. Aga Khan however makes all these claims, so it is incumbent upon him and his followers to provide the proof. If they cannot, then they can be dismissed as a joke, a not too funny joke.

Interpreting Qur'an to Jahaliyas is not his job

Then he is not the "True Imam" but a fake.

even the Prophet was tormented

But he kept on going. Look at his courage and then look at the cowardly leaders of today.

.If he interpets a Sura or ayah, people would feel offended that He was imposing his belief on others.

This actually proves that Aga Khan is not this "True" Imam. The job of the True Imam is to deliver the message and bring people onto the right path. This Ismaili "True" Imam does not want to offend people by telling them about the quran and its message, however he is ready to offend Allah by hiding HIS message and not delivering. I think for those who were still wondering, this should make it clear that Aga Khan is no more of a True Imam than either Jalal Aga or Salman Khan!!

[anajmi]

znan,

it is unreasonable to simply ask and expect replies and yet not answer questions posed

It is your duty to provide answers. You are the one who is supposed to be following the "True" Imam. You are supposed to have all the answers. We are the jahaliyas. We do not have the answers. So please provide the answers.

In advance, thank you sir!!

[Momin]

Obviously Anajmi does not have the intellectual capacity, like some others, to digest the message of Allah's (swt) Hujjat, the "True Imam". Futhermore, "he" (the True/Hazar Imam/Aga Khan IV), does not have time for hypocrites.

[Admin]

We closed the previous thread and will be closing this one too because it is getting long-drawn out and repetitive. Either party has nothing new to say.