Another Kothari Collections scam- For Saifee Hospital, M

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mumineen
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Another Kothari Collections scam- For Saifee Hospital, M

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Unread post by mumineen » Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:07 pm

The Kothari reps. throughout the world have been at it again! Now compulsory collections by ruse of selling units to the gullible Bohris for building or maintaining the Saifee Hospital in Mumbai.

1. They have been visiting Bohri homes in the United Kingdom without giving any notice of their arrivals or very liitle notice. The flagrant "modus operandi" - one of the reps. without permission from the home owners goes round the home of the Bohri to assess the value of the home and then compels the owner to pay up for the Saifee Hospital according to the estimated appraisal of the home.

2. For the Toronto, Canada Jamaat, please see the attached sample of the Form: Minimum payment of $215 per unit per member of the household.

http://www.torontojamat.ca/Ntorontojama ... 20Form.pdf

3. Last week the Kothari Bhaisahebs from U.S.A. urgently visited Ottawa, Canada and compelled the members to buy the units at the Bohri Marqaz.

4. Whatever happened to the 52 crores rupees donated by the North American high-tech Bohri tycoon, Dahodwalla on behalf of the North American Bohris.

WiseBohra
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Re: Another Kothari Collections scam- For Saifee Hospital, M

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Unread post by WiseBohra » Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:51 pm

mumineen
Sultan mohammed Burhannudin is in UK. may be sultan farman is to collect monies for saifee Hospital so the sheep the Bohra community will pay it so Sultan can have treatment in india in his own enviourment.
Sultan comes to UK in London to squeeze monies out of Bohra Community.
From london i heard that from jumaat rep come and knock on the door even the man of the house is out or at the work,In western country the protocol is to ring before going to someone place..
It is the same tactic the cultist use to intimidate cult follower when the cult organisation need monies.
The Bohra community has to resit the intimidation and say no to Sultan Mohammed Burhannuddin whim and protest, It is a ploy of Sultan and co. to squeeze more monies out of community. The saifee Hospital is no good for poor and Ordinary Bohras who cannot afford Hospitals bills in INDIA.
You have to plead for monies for hospital opearation or hospital treatment and it has to go through lots of hurdle then at the end you will be refused and jumaat and Amil will ask and wheather you have paid your religious Taxes or other Donation to Kothar.
In Saifee Hospital wealthy and Sultan cronies and Chamchas will be look after well other Bohras will be treated like third class citizens.
I would Advise Bohras Mumineen to have treatment in Karim Agakhan Hoapital in Mumbai atleast you get proper Treatment.
If you can't afford for treatment they will help what ever they can.
It seems Saifee Hospital is always in need of monies.
Can any one give information or History about how Saifee Hospital started and who is real founder father of Saifee Hospital.
The saifee Hospital should be taken off from KOTHAR and Sultan and His cronies control and should run by ordinary Bohras who is wise and from inteligisia bohras with medical background and management skill should take it over as for the greedy Kothar and Sultan saifee Hospital is Money making machine.
wasalaam


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Re: Another Kothari Collections scam- For Saifee Hospital, M

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:36 pm

The Saifee Hospital built on the trust land of Sir Adamji Peerbhoy Sanitorium Trust after demolition of Sir Adamji's Sanitorium at Churni Road Bombay is ready waiting to open next month. Total cost of construction of this huge building has come Rs 22 crores of which Rs 52 crores have been already donated by one Mumtaz Dahodwala from Silver velly, USA. Beside this Kothar has been collecting funds from Bohras all over in the name of this hospital since last 10 years.
It is a commercial project not a charitable project for Kothar in the heart of Bombay city and huge earning will also go to Kothar's coffins and not for walfare of this communiy. Why this sceme for more collection?

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Re: Another Kothari Collections scam- For Saifee Hospital, M

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Unread post by porus » Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:46 pm

"Kothar's coffins" ?

Is that for a hospital in "Aakherat"? Considering, Bohras will have to have their brains re-wired there!! :D

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Re: Another Kothari Collections scam- For Saifee Hospital, M

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Unread post by mumineen » Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:23 pm

Well, obviously the "freudian" slip (coffins/coffers) was perhaps intentional!!!

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Re: Another Kothari Collections scam- For Saifee Hospital, M

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Unread post by Simpleton » Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:35 pm

I keep on mentioning that something should be done to expose the Toronto Jamat to the Gov't. of Canada, but I guess "nobody" is interested in that. We are very good at complaining, but no one wants to take any action. Please see my earlier posts (though not so many), but I'm a strong proponent of not mixing relgious duties with the running of our various Jamaats around the World.

Depending on the Country, the masjids either belong to Syedna since he is operating as "Corporate Sole", or as "Charitable Institutions" in countries like Canada, where they have failed to convince the Government that Syedna should be the Sole owner of our Masjids.

Remember that apart from paying Sabeel for the running and maintenance of our Masjids, they keep on increasing the Sabeel for only one reason, and one reason alone, and that is to siphon the rest of the funds out to India or Switzerland or USA in the name of doing some "charitable" work !!!

Find out if ANY of our Jamaats all over the World have ever published an Income and Expenditure Statement to show how they have managed your funds in "running" the Masjid(s) etc.

Ironically, thanks to Enron in the USA, now all Charitable Institutions in Canada are required to report to the Government every year on how much they have collected, and how much they have spent. It is from these Returns that I have been able to find out that the Toronto Jamaat has sent out something to the tune of $2M in the past 4 Years !!! You can check this out for yourselves:

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/dchmf/haip/src ... MANE+NAJMI

Until we subject these "Charitable Organizations" to properly account to us, the donating public, rest assured there will be fund raising for the Earthquake Victims in Gujarat, or the Saiffee Hospital in Mumbai, or the Extention of Masjid in Toronto or elsewhere etc. etc.

The funniest part of this whole thing is that they somehow get away with ALL these donations, and where they end up and in whose hands is still a huge mystery to us.

Syedna is being taken around the world by his sons so that they can keep on collecting from the public, for who knows what might happen to their life of luxury once he is gone?

Dawaat is certainly in turmoil, and to add fuel to the fire, those around Syedna are making sure that they fill up their coffers with all that they can collect, whether it be in the name of religion or otherwise.

Imagine if we had to work like them, with no accountability to anyone but just share all the wealth between a handful of men!