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this is a new article i saw at Patheos website
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/azizpoonaw ... -responds/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/azizpoonaw ... -responds/
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Accusation of hate speech in Bohra mosques
I attendted in many khatamul Quran majlis (not in Mumaby of course), cursing lanaat was normal during the first days. In Azad Maidan, QJ bs has openly said lanat and baraat on KQ (saw the relay). Even the Missaq majlis began with a lanaat session in my town (a great city cited in the article) .
3 Photos, 30,000 words
That prove nothing. MS is contolling whole administration.
Accusation of oppression of women
https://www.mixturecloud.com/media/X8PuAzl9
https://www.mixturecloud.com/media/ZosuJlnW
https://www.mixturecloud.com/media/Ei4yuv2U
https://www.mixturecloud.com/media/zgxGEZYT
Accusation of social ostracization
Openly Baraat and Laanat is not sufficient ?
Quite a funny article

I m' not defending KQ, but seems this so-called Aziz 'liberal Muslim' is blind...
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Look at the comments on Shireen Hamza's article.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/religionno ... qus_thread
There are 156 comments and many others that have been flagged and deleted. I never imagined there were so many individuals attending American masjids who had such interesting views and opinions on MS.They are not all necessarily SKQ fans but it is very heartening to see that they are at least mentally challenging the status quo.
Also, it is quite entertaining to see Mufaddal Bhaisaheb's followers tripping over each other to make fools of themselves.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/religionno ... qus_thread
There are 156 comments and many others that have been flagged and deleted. I never imagined there were so many individuals attending American masjids who had such interesting views and opinions on MS.They are not all necessarily SKQ fans but it is very heartening to see that they are at least mentally challenging the status quo.
Also, it is quite entertaining to see Mufaddal Bhaisaheb's followers tripping over each other to make fools of themselves.
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I have been reading comments and I cant believe how much lies muffy camp can speak....
we all know first party who uploaded video was SKQ,, and they didnt removed it, but jamiya claimed it for copy rights and ultimately it was blocked by you tube.
lies lies lies, I am not sure how far they will go.
we all know first party who uploaded video was SKQ,, and they didnt removed it, but jamiya claimed it for copy rights and ultimately it was blocked by you tube.
lies lies lies, I am not sure how far they will go.
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I am suprised educated folks of US and UK are falling for cheap tricks by MS.
he forcefully gathered people for lanat in majlis, he forcefully arranged birthday bash, while even 40 days was not passed of his fathers death, he forcefully took signatures, he forcefully broke hurmat of masjid by inviting hindu and goondas in masjid for his own publicity.
he forcefully gathered people for lanat in majlis, he forcefully arranged birthday bash, while even 40 days was not passed of his fathers death, he forcefully took signatures, he forcefully broke hurmat of masjid by inviting hindu and goondas in masjid for his own publicity.
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After reading the article by shireen and a reply by his cousin. My worst fear has become a reality, like most people who fear switching sides. Excommunication from one society is not the real danger, its your own family turning against you and throwing under the bus is where the problem is.
I have known it for years and and also seen a few situations where family members of the person were called in open public and asked to send laanat on their own family member. There is no bottom in this barrel, they can be push as hard to beat up the said family member too.
I have known it for years and and also seen a few situations where family members of the person were called in open public and asked to send laanat on their own family member. There is no bottom in this barrel, they can be push as hard to beat up the said family member too.
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the cousin says that he loves her still so maybe its not as bad as that
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Well coming out against her and stabbing her with false information is what is "not love" and as I mentioned in my earlier post. Biggest enemies she will face will be from inside of her family, but really if it were me I would not trust anyone in this situation. Cause I have seen and witnessed family crucifying their own family members for "faith"sakinaarwah wrote:the cousin says that he loves her still so maybe its not as bad as that
I applaud her boldness. I read the article which was forwarded to me on whatsaap with topic "jamea girl spilling poison" or something along those lines.
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Kudos to "jamea girl spilling poison" on the munafekeens preaching propaganda in jamea.trvoice wrote:Well coming out against her and stabbing her with false information is what is "not love" and as I mentioned in my earlier post. Biggest enemies she will face will be from inside of her family, but really if it were me I would not trust anyone in this situation. Cause I have seen and witnessed family crucifying their own family members for "faith"sakinaarwah wrote:the cousin says that he loves her still so maybe its not as bad as that
I applaud her boldness. I read the article which was forwarded to me on whatsaap with topic "jamea girl spilling poison" or something along those lines.
Shirin Hamza got spunk. What an inspiration!
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Shirin Hamza. Tip of the hat - Salute. What courage.
Only if I could be half the human you are
Only if I could be half the human you are
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Looks like the smart ones in Mufaddal Bhaisaheb camp are realizing they don't have much company... From the comments on Shireen Hamza's article...
MufaddalMoulaZindabad • 23 minutes ago
Looks like the yokels among Mufaddal Moula's supporters continue to post idiotic things here, continue to contradict each other and continue to help make KQ's point. Look at the post by Guest below. Can someone please stop them?!!
Umme Hani • 13 minutes ago
Why don't you follow your friend Shireen to where all the smart ones have flocked
And another one
MufaddalMoulaZindabad • 17 hours ago
Please everyone stop this! We have done baraat with these people, why do we keep talking to them!! Out of love for our Moula everyone is jumping into the discussion and often saying foolish and hateful things. We are proving their point! Shireen was my very good and true friend. But when she gave up our Moula, all I needed to do was to stop talking to her. Why is everyone being so hateful and often making such stupid comments!! Please,please stop this for the love of our Moula!
The above had a LIKE by Aziz Poonawala - so I guess he agrees there is hate and stupidity among the followers of Mufaddal Saifuddin... When this post was made people continued to make idiotic comments like Shireen thinks Indians are stupid and Tamney Tamaro Firko Mubarak...So this is what MufaddalMoulaZindabad said
MufaddalMoulaZindabad • 16 hours ago
Bhai this still makes you look foolish. All her friends said that to her before. Then they came on this blog and commented the heck out of it. Please don't multiply your foolishness.
MufaddalMoulaZindabad • 17 hours ago
Bhai I know Shireen, she loved India and mumineen in India. Do you think the Qutbi Bohras don't know Shireen? When you make false comments like this you make their aqeedah stronger and make yourself and hence followers of Mufaddal Moula look foolish. I said stop this and you jump right back in with another moronic comment, sad to say....
So they all quickly said "comment retracted" which made them look even stupider so they then deleted their comments. Now that post has a whole bunch of empty comments with periods and stars...It is becoming quite clear where the grey matter concentration is...I normally pity fools but when they are so hateful, I find them entertaining...
MufaddalMoulaZindabad • 23 minutes ago
Looks like the yokels among Mufaddal Moula's supporters continue to post idiotic things here, continue to contradict each other and continue to help make KQ's point. Look at the post by Guest below. Can someone please stop them?!!
Umme Hani • 13 minutes ago
Why don't you follow your friend Shireen to where all the smart ones have flocked

And another one
MufaddalMoulaZindabad • 17 hours ago
Please everyone stop this! We have done baraat with these people, why do we keep talking to them!! Out of love for our Moula everyone is jumping into the discussion and often saying foolish and hateful things. We are proving their point! Shireen was my very good and true friend. But when she gave up our Moula, all I needed to do was to stop talking to her. Why is everyone being so hateful and often making such stupid comments!! Please,please stop this for the love of our Moula!
The above had a LIKE by Aziz Poonawala - so I guess he agrees there is hate and stupidity among the followers of Mufaddal Saifuddin... When this post was made people continued to make idiotic comments like Shireen thinks Indians are stupid and Tamney Tamaro Firko Mubarak...So this is what MufaddalMoulaZindabad said
MufaddalMoulaZindabad • 16 hours ago
Bhai this still makes you look foolish. All her friends said that to her before. Then they came on this blog and commented the heck out of it. Please don't multiply your foolishness.
MufaddalMoulaZindabad • 17 hours ago
Bhai I know Shireen, she loved India and mumineen in India. Do you think the Qutbi Bohras don't know Shireen? When you make false comments like this you make their aqeedah stronger and make yourself and hence followers of Mufaddal Moula look foolish. I said stop this and you jump right back in with another moronic comment, sad to say....
So they all quickly said "comment retracted" which made them look even stupider so they then deleted their comments. Now that post has a whole bunch of empty comments with periods and stars...It is becoming quite clear where the grey matter concentration is...I normally pity fools but when they are so hateful, I find them entertaining...
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Oh and you should check out this post by "Guest". He or she is complaining that Bazat Tahera Qutbuddin is not wearing a rida..
Couple of the responses
Impressed Guest • an hour ago
http://universe.byu.edu/2013/0...
This is the article that went along with the picture. You can tell that the author is CLEARLY impressed and she does the community proud.
MufaddalMoulaZindabad Guest • an hour ago
Guest, Is the lady's head covered? Yes. Does she have a loose cape around her shoulders? Yes. Can you get closer to a rida without actually wearing a rida?! No. Give the lady high marks for style and lihaz and leave her alone.
Are you even AWARE of what you are posting? So many here have posted here saying that our Mufaddal Moula actually does NOT discourage women's education and here is a caption that says "Mola kahe bairo study na kare..." "Moula says women should not study..." Are you out of your mind?
Looks like the brainy ones are getting a bit panicky as well.
Couple of the responses
Impressed Guest • an hour ago
http://universe.byu.edu/2013/0...
This is the article that went along with the picture. You can tell that the author is CLEARLY impressed and she does the community proud.
MufaddalMoulaZindabad Guest • an hour ago
Guest, Is the lady's head covered? Yes. Does she have a loose cape around her shoulders? Yes. Can you get closer to a rida without actually wearing a rida?! No. Give the lady high marks for style and lihaz and leave her alone.
Are you even AWARE of what you are posting? So many here have posted here saying that our Mufaddal Moula actually does NOT discourage women's education and here is a caption that says "Mola kahe bairo study na kare..." "Moula says women should not study..." Are you out of your mind?
Looks like the brainy ones are getting a bit panicky as well.
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may be she is not in rida, but she is in perfect HIJAB as prescribed in QURAAN.
in fact RIDA should be abolished and HIJAAB should be adopted ASAP.
in fact RIDA should be abolished and HIJAAB should be adopted ASAP.
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Another comment on the above picture...
MufaddalMoulaZindabad • an hour ago
Oh yeah and the caption also faults her for doing a PHD against the express wishes of our Moula who demands that "bairo ghar no khuno sachve ane rida ane topi ghunthe..." Do you think that we do not have other muminaat who have done a PHD with Aqa Moula Burhanuddin's raza? How do you think they feel? So many Mufaddal Moula supporters who have commented here have said that Mufaddal Moula did not really mean it when he said that women should not go to University. And here is a caption that says that that is precisely what he said. Do you know that Tahera Qutbuddin does not really give two hoots about what our Moula wants?
I am laughing so hard I have tears in my eyes.... MufaddalMoulaZindabad is getting so panicky at the stupidity around her that she sounds ready to follow her "good and true friend" Shireen on the path of haqq
To her credit, she did have the courage to call the comments of her own camp stupid and hateful. She sounds like a courageous woman herself despite her current state of panic at the "foolishness" around her. She spoke the truth and called the fools out.
MufaddalMoulaZindabad • an hour ago
Oh yeah and the caption also faults her for doing a PHD against the express wishes of our Moula who demands that "bairo ghar no khuno sachve ane rida ane topi ghunthe..." Do you think that we do not have other muminaat who have done a PHD with Aqa Moula Burhanuddin's raza? How do you think they feel? So many Mufaddal Moula supporters who have commented here have said that Mufaddal Moula did not really mean it when he said that women should not go to University. And here is a caption that says that that is precisely what he said. Do you know that Tahera Qutbuddin does not really give two hoots about what our Moula wants?
I am laughing so hard I have tears in my eyes.... MufaddalMoulaZindabad is getting so panicky at the stupidity around her that she sounds ready to follow her "good and true friend" Shireen on the path of haqq

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I will be so happy if RIDA is dropped off and ISLAMIC HIJAAB is adopted for SKQ camp.
rida attracts more men eyes than normal dresses.
specially in west and developed world.
rida attracts more men eyes than normal dresses.
specially in west and developed world.
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Thank you for posting these comments here. I was a bit late catching up on the comments (the article is popularthink_for_yourself wrote:Looks like the smart ones in Mufaddal Bhaisaheb camp are realizing they don't have much company... From the comments on Shireen Hamza's article...
MufaddalMoulaZindabad • 23 minutes ago
Looks like the yokels among Mufaddal Moula's supporters continue to post idiotic things here, continue to contradict each other and continue to help make KQ's point. Look at the post by Guest below. Can someone please stop them?!!
Umme Hani • 13 minutes ago
Why don't you follow your friend Shireen to where all the smart ones have flocked
And another one
MufaddalMoulaZindabad • 17 hours ago
Please everyone stop this! We have done baraat with these people, why do we keep talking to them!! Out of love for our Moula everyone is jumping into the discussion and often saying foolish and hateful things. We are proving their point! Shireen was my very good and true friend. But when she gave up our Moula, all I needed to do was to stop talking to her. Why is everyone being so hateful and often making such stupid comments!! Please,please stop this for the love of our Moula!
The above had a LIKE by Aziz Poonawala - so I guess he agrees there is hate and stupidity among the followers of Mufaddal Saifuddin... When this post was made people continued to make idiotic comments like Shireen thinks Indians are stupid and Tamney Tamaro Firko Mubarak...So this is what MufaddalMoulaZindabad said
MufaddalMoulaZindabad • 16 hours ago
Bhai this still makes you look foolish. All her friends said that to her before. Then they came on this blog and commented the heck out of it. Please don't multiply your foolishness.
MufaddalMoulaZindabad • 17 hours ago
Bhai I know Shireen, she loved India and mumineen in India. Do you think the Qutbi Bohras don't know Shireen? When you make false comments like this you make their aqeedah stronger and make yourself and hence followers of Mufaddal Moula look foolish. I said stop this and you jump right back in with another moronic comment, sad to say....
So they all quickly said "comment retracted" which made them look even stupider so they then deleted their comments. Now that post has a whole bunch of empty comments with periods and stars...It is becoming quite clear where the grey matter concentration is...I normally pity fools but when they are so hateful, I find them entertaining...

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posting the complete link to the above article...think_for_yourself wrote: Impressed Guest • an hour ago
http://universe.byu.edu/2013/0...
This is the article that went along with the picture. You can tell that the author is CLEARLY impressed and she does the community proud.
MufaddalMoulaZindabad Guest • an hour ago
Guest, Is the lady's head covered? Yes. Does she have a loose cape around her shoulders? Yes. Can you get closer to a rida without actually wearing a rida?! No. Give the lady high marks for style and lihaz and leave her alone.
Are you even AWARE of what you are posting? So many here have posted here saying that our Mufaddal Moula actually does NOT discourage women's education and here is a caption that says "Mola kahe bairo study na kare..." "Moula says women should not study..." Are you out of your mind?
Looks like the brainy ones are getting a bit panicky as well.
http://universe.byu.edu/2013/03/22/life ... lim-woman/
That picture has done many rounds on whatsapp in India. The mumineen in US think that Mufaddal bhaisaab does not oppose women's education etc and make excuses for his bayaans. However, the ground reality in India is quite different in smaller towns like mine. The women that I interact with at the masjid have actually taken this seriously and they believe that they should not pursue higher education as it is against their Moula's wish. I have heard of a medical student quitting in her final year of studies, to please Moula! What a waste! A friend of mine asked her daughter if she would consider studying HomeScience, knowing very well that her daughter was keen on studying mathematics! I am glad that she flatly refused.
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trvoice. Check out the book Life and Death in Shanghai. Baraat reminds me of the hate sessions conducted by Mao. The talebat and taalebaat make me think of the Red Army. Indeed they have been given ilm, and for that we must respect them but in lieu they had to give up their right to critical thinking. I am impressed by the journey Shireen Hamza must have made. From the obviously well respected and well loved talebaat to someone questioning the truth of what is being fed to her.trvoice wrote:After reading the article by shireen and a reply by his cousin. My worst fear has become a reality, like most people who fear switching sides. Excommunication from one society is not the real danger, its your own family turning against you and throwing under the bus is where the problem is.
I have known it for years and and also seen a few situations where family members of the person were called in open public and asked to send laanat on their own family member. There is no bottom in this barrel, they can be push as hard to beat up the said family member too.
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http://www.patheos.com/blogs/religionno ... di-bohras/
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Well it won't be long before the true message makes it's way to the US. Either that or the message will be modified because of the backlash. It seems to me that if MS was a true dai and was guided by the taeed of Imamuz zaman, he would not fumble so much...Fatema MN wrote:think_for_yourself wrote:
That picture has done many rounds on whatsapp in India. The mumineen in US think that Mufaddal bhaisaab does not oppose women's education etc and make excuses for his bayaans. However, the ground reality in India is quite different in smaller towns like mine. The women that I interact with at the masjid have actually taken this seriously and they believe that they should not pursue higher education as it is against their Moula's wish. I have heard of a medical student quitting in her final year of studies, to please Moula! What a waste! A friend of mine asked her daughter if she would consider studying HomeScience, knowing very well that her daughter was keen on studying mathematics! I am glad that she flatly refused.
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Comments on the blog are going beserk