Prayer Is Better Than Sleep

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badrijanab
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Re: Prayer Is Better Than Sleep

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Unread post by badrijanab » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:58 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:What badrijanab also wants to prove is that Mola Ali (a.s.) was not a brave and valiant soldier (nauzubillah) as proved by shia/sunni/bohra literatures as he preferred to allow the Ummah to suffer at the hands of 1,2,3, (also etc etc etc) instead of waging a war against them for their alleged malpractices and corruption of religion although he took part in various battles for the sake of Islam. Infact Mola Ali (a.s.) had a much much larger following as compared to what Imam Hussain (a.s.) had in Karbala.
In every jihaad etc, etc and etc use to run away from the battlefield, only Mola Ali a.s. single handedly won the war for Islam.

As per Sakifa plotting etc, etc and etc have planned to revert back to Jahiliyat-a-ula i.e. revert back to Kufr and become kings of Kafir and recruit all those new Muslims who are enemy to Mola Ali a.s. as some of their relatives or brother/father were killed by Mola Ali a.s. So to keep the new Muslims intact in the fold of Islam Mola Ali a.s. sacrificed his claim and didn't raise the sword but again this does not make etc, etc and etc as the rightful caliphs.

Two ladies came fighting claiming on a new born as her son. After all persuasions and inquiry got failed Qazi ordered executioner to bifurcate the kid and give both claimant of mother one equal piece. Lady who was true mother shouted and stopped the falling sword of executioner and said that I take my claim back and give this kid to other claimant. It is my (Mola Ali a.s.) son (caliphate), I (Mola Ali a.s.) deserve his custody if it is not with me (Mola Ali a.s.) because that other lady (1/2/3 have usurped) is falsely claiming its custody - then let my son (caliphate) be with that lady (1/2/3), not with me is tolerable at least he will be alive (new Muslims along with 1/2/3 not migrated to Kufr and continue in the fold of Islam).
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anajmi
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Re: Prayer Is Better Than Sleep

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Unread post by anajmi » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:00 pm

then let my son (caliphate) be with that lady (1/2/3), not with me is tolerable at least he will be alive (not migrated to Kufr and continue being as Muslim).
And then I will keep crying and complaining about it for the next 1400 years.

porus
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Re: Prayer Is Better Than Sleep

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Unread post by porus » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:31 pm

Egypt turns a blind eye to killing of Shias

What will it take for Egyptian President Morsi to act?]


*WASHINGTON, June 25, 2013

Egyptian authorities have yet to file a single criminal charge against a mob that attacked and killed several
Shia Muslims this weekend for religious "heresy". Despite President Morsis condemnation of the crime as heinous, Egyptian security forces have not taken any actions to protect the victims, prevent future attacks, or punish those responsible.

In the attack, Egyptian news agency Ahram reported that a mob of an estimated 3,000 [so called but obviously wahabi] Sunni Muslims attacked and murdered Shia Muslims after setting fire to their homes in Egypts Giza district, in a town named Zawiyat Abu Musallem. It is estimated that four Shia Muslims were murdered, while thirty more are being treated for critical wounds. Many reports indicate that while several Shia families managed to escape, others remain besieged in their homes.

Eyewitness Hazem Barakat told various Egyptian news agencies, "For three weeks, the Salafist [= wahabi] sheikhs in the village have been attacking the Shias and accusing them of being infidels and spreading debauchery.

[Today] I saw several Shias stabbed several times while they were being dragged in some sort of public lynching." barakat then took to Twitter and Youtube, posting pictures and video of the incidents as they occurred.

In an interview with Agence French-Presse, an attack participant Mohamed Ismail told the news agency, We're happy about what happened. It should have happened long ago." Fellow villagers observing the interview agreed with Ismails remarks, who told reporters that he was a school teacher.

Other witnesses told AFP that the mob shouted Shias are infidels during the attack.

The dream of a new civil Egypt is gradually eroding. A democratic vision for all Egyptians is being replaced with a Salafi [=wahabi ... and that is what they all want to do in Syria] ideological movement that has ultimately usurped power with the ascent of the Muslim Brotherhood, and their president, Mohamed Morsi, said UMAA Advocacy Director Ali Tehrani of the attacks. Morsi has proclaimed and maintained that he is the President of all Egyptians. Yet, Egypt is undergoing the most drastic persecution of religious minorities since the twelfth century.

This attack is the latest in a series of mob assaults that Egyptian authorities have failed to act against. Egyptian News Al Bawaba reports, in a story titled Egypt's 'killing culture': As police and politicians lose their grip, mobs take justice into their own hands. Egged on by communal acceptance, mob killings have been spreading across rural areas of Egypt amid a chronic security vacuum and a surging crime rate.

Egypts highest Sunni scholar, Grand Mufti Shawqi Allam, condemned theattacks as antithetical to Islam, proclaiming, Islam does not recognize such [violent] practices which contradict human nature. In remarks on the same topic, the Grand Mufti declared that killing was a more despicable offense than destroying the Kaa'ba, Islams holiest mosque, located in modern day Saudi Arabia.

Conflicting reports have arisen as to the fate of Sheikh Hassan Shehata, a Shia religious scholar, who was the original target of the violent mob. The security directorate in Giza has reported that Sheikh Shehata was killed during the attack, however Egyptian Shiae activist Bihaa Anwar told Ahram "Sheikh Shehata is fine and he is currently safe."

Egypt Independent compiled several posts on social media from prominent government opposition figures discussing the attack:

- National Salvation Front leader Mohamed ElBaradei meanwhile posted on Twitter: Slaughter of four Egyptian Shias is [the] abhorrent result of sanctioned religious intolerance. Long way to go to ensure freedom of belief!'"

- On Facebook, Freedom and Justice Party (FJP) leader Essam al-Erian said: Egyptian blood is forbidden, Muslim or Copt, man or woman, Sunni or Shia, civilian or police. All is forbidden.

- Tamarod opposition campaign spokesperson Mahmoud Badr said on Monday: Whoever kills Egyptians for differences in religion or sect is a vile person who doesn't deserve to live in this country.

The United States Embassy in Cairo condemned the attack demanding swift action from the otherwise languid Egyptian security forces. We call on the Egyptian government to follow-through on its pledge to ensure that the perpetrators of this heinous crime are held accountable under the law, and we urge a thorough and transparent investigation.

However, as mob attacks in Egypt are on the rise, prospects for justice continue to dwindle.

Tehrani concludes "If history has taught us one thing, religious persecution does not end with the elimination of one group ... Make no mistake, the persecution will spread and dynamically target people of all faiths deviating from the extremists vision of the world."

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Re: Prayer Is Better Than Sleep

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:17 am

:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

aage ki tab soch sakte hai, jab pichwada tight bandh kiya ho.. :wink:

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Re: Prayer Is Better Than Sleep

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Unread post by Muslim First » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:45 am

badrijanab wrote:
Muslim First wrote: Badrinaath ji said
Dharawi Namaz, Deletion of Prophetic statement from Azaan, all gets disowned

In Shia fairy tale world Hz Ali disowned taraweeh Namaaz, Deletion of Prophetic statement from Azaan and all other innovations of 1/2/3. But all those innovations continued during his Khilafat and are still practiced by majority of Muslims
That is why Ameer al Mumineen Mola Ali a.s. waged Jihaad against Ayesha wala's, Muawiya wala's and Kharji's.
Perhaps Shaikh porus can help his chela and answer question

Did Hz Ali wage wage Jihad against Bibi Aisha to stop Tarawihs, change Adhan, make 5 prayers in 3 a norm, replace corrupted Utman Quran with his secrete Quran and other un islamic practices introduced by 1/2/3?

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Re: Prayer Is Better Than Sleep

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Unread post by porus » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:50 pm

CIA AGENT TALKS!

In the book, “A plan to divide and destroy the theology” an interview with Dr. Micheal Brant has been published. Dr. Brant was the right hand of Bob Woodwards, CIA’s X-chief. Dr. Brant was working for a long time for the CIA but due to his improper use of money and authority he was discharged from his post.

Upon this he revealed many of the secret plans and eye opening facts in revenge of his losing his position with the CIA.

He talks about the sum of 900 million dollars being fixed for these secrets missions and drug money being taken from Columbia and Afghanistan for the same purpose.

Yet, this drug money was not used for the purpose it was allocated for and even the other sum was not taken care of properly.

RESEARCH ABOUT SHIAS BY THEM!

Dr. Brant says that for the past many decades the West has governed the Islamic world.

Over time the Muslim countries gained their independence but their concept of freedom, politics and culture was under strong influence of the West. Especially the political and financial setup was under strong influence.

After independence, these countries did not give attention to the educational and cultural aspects making up society and continued to follow the western thought culture in the society.

In 1979, the Iranian revolution brought about an earthquake shattering the long term planning being carried out for years and years.

At the beginning it was thought that it was due to the suppression of Shah of Iran that the civil war had begun. It seemed that the religious people and leaders (“Ulema”) were taking advantage out of this for themselves. We (the West) thought that after Shah Iran is gone we will bring our men who will continue our policy.

Due to the problems faced by the USA in those two/three years (Embassy crew of Iran being taken as hostage and planes being destroyed in the desert causing failure of commando attack) the Islamic world started to re-think about Islam. Hatred against the West in different countries such as Lebanon and Pakistan started to rise and the Shias became stronger.

Looking at all this in 1983 the high authorities kept a conference. In this conference the British secret service MIX also participated.

Britain having a vast experience with these countries was to have key ideas about what to do with regards to the Shias. It was decided that the Iranian revolution was not just a result of the Shah’s oppression but there were more realities and facts behind the scene.

From which, the strongest factor was the Islamic authority being a guide to Politicians and to manage the rule and politics of an Islamic country and the 1,400 years old martyrdom of the grandson of the Prophet of Islam Mohammed’s (pbuh) grandson Hussein(pbuh).

The mourning of Hussein(pbuh) is celebrated by Shias with great sorrow and grief.

These are the two factors due to which Shias seem more effective and active. In this meeting it was decided that Shia Islam must be understood and a project is to be launched for which a special section will be made.

The budget fixed was 4 million USD. According to Dr. Micheal Brant the project was divided into 3 stages.

(1) Data collection

(2) Short term targets

(3)Long term Targets

In the first stage research scholars were send around the world from which 6 were sent to Pakistan. (Their names are available in the article).

One of these is Dr. Shome Whale (spelling could be wrong) who completed his PhD researching the ‘azadari’ (mourning in the name of Hussein(pbuh)) of Hussein(pbuh) in Karachi. He stayed as a paying guest in one of the Shia areas known as Rizvia society.

A Japanese woman completed her PhD doing research on the Hazara people of Balochistan, Quetta and Shia Islam.
In the early surveys questions such as the following were asked:

> Where in the world are Shias residing and how many per area?
> What is the social and economic status of the Shias and what are thedifferences amongst them?
> How to amplify the internal conflicts and disagreements amongst the Shias?
> How to magnify the differences already existing between the two major sects ofIslam (Sunni and Shia).

WHY ARE THEY AFRAID OF SHIAS!

After all this research, according to Dr. Brant, they came to the conclusion that:

Shia Scholastic leaders (Marj’as) are the real strength of this school of thought who protect the Shia faith in all time at all cost.
They are very strong about the principles and beliefs.
They have never, in the vast Shia history, given allegiance to any ruling authority that is not practicing Islam. It was Ayatullah Shirazi’s ruling that prevented the British from entering Iran.

In Iraq the largest institute of Islamic teaching for the Jafferi (Shia) school of thought was in Najaf. Saddam Hussein(LA) tried to buy and control this institute but failed to do so. At the end he had to shut down the school and till this day it remains closed for public teaching.

While, all the other religious institutions in the world usually go along with the government.

It was the religious institution of Qum, which was the main force behind the overthrowing of Shah of Iran. It now stands up to the might of the world power, which is USA.

In Lebanon the campaign of Ayatullah Musa Sadr forced the American, French and British arm to withdraw from Lebanon.

Ever since Israel came into being the Ayatullah stands as the greatest threat and challenge to it in the form of HizbAllah.

Hence, from these encounters we have concluded that direct confrontation with Shias results more in damage than any kind of success. Thus, it is wiser to work behind the veil.

The old British tactic to divide and rule proved to be unsuccessful so we adopted another way, which is divide and annihilate.

Here, prolonged discussion and devoirs were presented. We shall briefly summarize it below.

Their PLANS!

The plan is to appoint those who are prejudiced and harbor enmity against Shias and glorify these people. The idea is to use them against the Shias.

Utilizing negative propaganda against the Shias to isolate them from the main stream of Islam.
To provide literature which will stir up enmity for Shias.

When these prejudiced people increase enough in number use them as a weapon for war against the Shias. [for example Taliban and Sipah e Sahaba].

At the same time, propagate false information against Shia leaders and scholars, which will open up another door for their conspiracy. Thereby the fifth column should become distorted so that they are unpopular amongst their own people and the Shias start to hate their leaders.

On the aspect of ‘azadari’ Dr. Brant says that in Shia Islam the practice of mourning of Hussein(pbuh) brings about great emotion within the Shias. The Shias get together to commemorate and recall the even of Kerbala. One person recites and/or speaks of the tragedy that took place and presents a vivid picture of Kerbala. The young and the old grief and mourn for Hussein(pbuh) and his household. The speaker and the masses who attend the lecture are important to consider. It is due to this gathering and speech that the emotions of Shias are invigorated in such a way that they are ready to stand up and fight for the truth against falsehood and evil, even if it costs them their lives.
Hence, billions of dollars must be spent in order to not only hijack the speakers but also the mass.

First off, those Shias who are more materialistic and whose beliefs are weak, who have some fame and can be used as sources amongst the people must be found. These are the people who will be used in order to influence the saying of the ‘azadari’ practice.

Then to bring out and encourage such speakers who do not possess correct knowledge nor the gnosis of Shia Islam.
Furthermore, look for and find those Shias who need some kind of financial or material gain and use them to campaign against the Shia faith.

Weaken the foundations of the Shias and blame it all on the Shia scholars and leaders (Marj’as). To encourage such practices in the mourning of Hussein(pbuh) which do not conform o the real Shia beliefs and introduce new practices which will be against the teachings of the Shia faith.

Present the Shia azadari practices as a group of ignorant and violent people who create disturbances amongst the general masses. [Already can be found in various news articles on the internet]

Sanction large funds to disseminate such movements and promote the speakers who will speak in a way as to present azadari as something illogical. Hence, a school of thought based on logic will be presented to be without logic and spurious. This is to cause distress and dissections between the Shias. At the end strike them in the weaker moment.
Research and investigate and gather information against the Shia scholars and leaders and then provide this information to unknown writers. Spend vast amount of money to propagate the distorted information.

Spread this literature amongst the general people and speakers. In this way, during the last phase of this movement against the Shias, the final blow would be to dismantle the central authority on which Shias rely for their verdicts.

By 2010 this is to be achieved and disperse the Shias and weaken them. The authority of Shia scholars which would stand up to the ruling authorities would be subdued by the Shias themselves to destroy the power of the Shia scholars.

Some of the activities for such a movement have already been launched successfully. Some are on the way to be executed in the future.

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Re: Prayer Is Better Than Sleep

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Unread post by seeker110 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:11 pm

Usually takes a few down votes and I am out, give up batting......But why, Br. MF

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Re: Prayer Is Better Than Sleep

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:15 pm

The Syrian conflict and specter of sectarianism

Speaking at a “Faith and Freedom Coalition” meeting, Sarah Palin warned against a US military intervention in Syria saying, “both sides are slaughtering each other as they scream over an arbitrary red line, Allah-o-Akbar. I say let Allah sort it out.”

This is rich coming from someone who cheered for America’s “shock and awe” in Iraq and Afghanistan and the neocon designs of tearing down the Middle East to refashion it as part of the so-called New American Century project.

It is of course an old debate if the US or the international community should intervene in Syria — or for that matter in any conflict — or not with equally compelling arguments being proffered by both sides. It’s a moot point now that Obama has decided to arm the opposition. The US — and the West — is already involved in Syria now.

But it is hard to disagree with Palin about the nature of this conflict. What is going on in Syria is indeed nothing but mass slaughter with the barbaric Baathist regime and rebels and assorted militias, sects and tribes competing to add to the misery of the Syrian people.

What began as a people’s uprising, obviously inspired by the winds of change blowing across the region, against the long and dark decades of Baathist tyranny has been transformed into a no-holds-barred civil, sectarian war of terrifying proportions. Lebanon’s Hezbollah, once admired for taking on Israel, has been fighting on old ally Assad’s side, outraging many across the region. Hamas, on the other hand, is in the opposite camp. It’s getting really crazy and chaotic out there, blurring old dividing lines and creating new ones.

As Assad hangs on to power defying all predictions about his early end and chanting “After me, the deluge” (“Après moi, le deluge”), the country around him crumbles and melts away. The UN has put the toll at a staggering 90,000, not to mention the all-round devastation that the great Levant country, one of the oldest and historically richest in the world, has witnessed in the past two years and half. Millions have been driven from their homes and fighting for survival in the neighboring countries such as Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq etc.

The Syrian conflict has already spilled over into the ever fragile Lebanon, Turkey and Iraq with battles being fought at several levels across the volatile region with the Arabs, Turks, United States and European powers on the one side of the divide and the Baathists, Iran and Russia of course on the other.

This may be a small price to pay considering the larger disaster that stalks the vast region, stretching from Anatolia in the north to Arab Maghreb in the south in the form of violent sectarian conflict. Indeed, the whole of Muslim world, at least its strategic center, now sits on a ticking time bomb with battle lines being drawn from Palestine to Pakistan.

What the international liberators sowed with the Iraq war successfully pitting the Sunnis and Shiites against each other has come to bear a rich harvest of sectarian hatred and hostility never seen in the past. They have burst open the gates of hell and the blaze now threatens to consume the whole of Islamic world.

What happened in Iraq under the benign gaze of Western champions of freedom with the Shiite killer squads and Al-Qaeda terrorists targeting the two communities and in the process wiping out entire neighborhoods is now being replicated across the region.

Preying on long dormant regional rivalries and insecurities and making the successful use of their classic stratagem of ‘divide and conquer,’ the world powers, with the help of their useful media, have been playing the Arabs and Iranians against each other.

While Iran and its nuclear and military aspirations are painted as the clear and present danger to the Arabs, the Iranians have been persuaded into believing that the whole of “Sunni” Arab world is ganged up against them and is out to destroy them with the help of the West.

This game has been played on for so long and with such finesse and dexterity that both sides and their media have now more or less embraced the same divisive agenda and narrative, little realizing how they are being used like pawns in the hands of you know who and where all this will eventually end.

As my friend Ramzy Baroud argues, Iraq’s historical dilemma, exploited by the US for immediate gains, has now become a pan-Arab dilemma. The Middle Eastern media is fomenting that conflict using terminology loaded with sectarianism and obsessed with erecting the kind of divides that will bring nothing but mistrust, misery and war.

Recently, in response to a recent piece on the dangers of growing Sunni-Shiite tensions, a perceptive reader wrote in questioning my argument that it is a recent phenomenon and largely a Western construct. “What about the long wars fought between the Sunni Turkey and Shiite Iran?” he asked.

Of course, Turkey and Iran did fight several long and bitter wars stretching over four centuries. However, those were between the two competing empires — Ottoman Turkey and Safavid Persia — for hegemony and can hardly be seen as sectarian in nature.

The same is true of the long and catastrophic war between Saddam Hussain’s Iraq and the post-Revolution Iran in the last century — another senseless conflict that richly contributed to the coffers of Western arms manufacturers — and other historical encounters between the Arabs and Persians. They were nothing but regional struggles for power and territory.

Indeed, never in the 15 centuries of Islam’s history have the two sects been engaged in such open tug of war. Their followers have always lived in harmony and at peace with each other without being excessively conscious of each other’s identity or their minor difference of opinion that had its genesis in the early history of Islam and occurred 15 centuries ago. They never let it dictate their lives and affect their relations with each other. They share a rich history and have contributed equally to the golden age of Islam for more than a thousand years that in turn influenced European renaissance.

That shared history and legacy is at stake today. If the saner majority on the either side does not act to rein in the extremists in their midst and stop this mindless, mutual demonization and bloodletting, it could have catastrophic consequences for the so-called Ummah.

What we share is much too precious and stronger than what tears us apart. We worship the same God and follow the same Prophet (peace be upon him) and the same Book. Is that not enough to bring us together? The genie of sectarianism must be coaxed back into the bottle before it wreaks more havoc.

http://arabnews.com/news/456276