Charity begins at Kothar

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humanbeing
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Charity begins at Kothar

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Unread post by humanbeing » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:54 am

From past few days, every bayan that is dished out from Kothari preacher, there is a latent as well as open insistence of not giving away any charity money directly to the needy. If anyone does that, its “haraam” and unacceptable to Allah as hasanaat. All monies for such prupose shall be channeled to “Dai” and Dai will decide who deserves better. To drive through this point, Kothari preachers kept ridiculing idea of “free thinking” and “free-thinker”. But in his zeal of ridicule he kept passing contradicting examples and message.

At one point he said “don’t give man a fish, but teach him how to fish” and then contradicts the moral of the message by saying that, Shafeek mufaddal maula is pampering mumin with ready to eat meals provided at door step. Ridiculing those critics who suggested to give scholarships and other means to earn livelihood.

At one point he quotes Sayedna saheb’s message of bohra mumin shall help other mumins and neighbors to as much extent as possible such a way that, left hand shall not know if given by right hand. Then he goes on to say, bohra commoners are not capable enough to think/decide who is really deserving. So charity shall be channeled to kothar.

Another point he kept passing is, not to think at all.

“Dai na Farman par, sochvooj naa joyye ! kahe ane uthaavi Lo!” after this he smartly adds, “Wajebaat ni rakam fix kare, koi delay wagar ene ada kari do!”

“Apne sochva ni zarurat nathi ! kem sochvu pade ! apni koi hesiyat nathi ke apne sochi sake, maula ne sab khavar che, Gaaib na janaar che banen maula “


Many other sweet sugar coated talks, which were actually foolish and depressing, all I could see around were sarcastic grins and smiles from others and even few bearded abdes !

It was sadly ironical to see such an environment of double standard, hypocrisy and deceit from all around. God knows who is fooling who ?

Bohra spring
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Re: Charity begins at Kothar

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:04 am

Bugger the Amil reads these blogs and uses our notes like freethinkers and helping bohras to be shelf sufficient..without acknowledging us....

Just say yah yah and let the Amil feel important and then go behind him and give charity to who you feel.

LionHunter
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Re: Charity begins at Kothar

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Unread post by LionHunter » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:47 am

I dont know how u can attend these meeting? I feel so suffocated I dont go any more there.

I wont call it majlis coz there is nothing about ALLAH and ahlul bayt.

humanbeing
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Re: Charity begins at Kothar

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Unread post by humanbeing » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:01 pm

Bohra spring wrote: Just say yah yah and let the Amil feel important and then go behind him and give charity to who you feel.
That’s the Norm by fair thinking bohras !
We do come across needy bohras who have approached kothar and returned disappointed.

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Charity begins at Kothar

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:45 pm

humanbeing wrote:“Dai na Farman par, sochvooj naa joyye ! kahe ane uthaavi Lo!”
No wonder the present day Bohraism is aptly called "Gheta Kom" !

Maqbool
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Re: Charity begins at Kothar

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Unread post by Maqbool » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:21 am

humanbeing wrote:Gaaib na janaar che banen maula
So the mansoos is also gaib na Jannar! He must be taking to Imam directly now without help of SMB.

humanbeing
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Re: Charity begins at Kothar

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Unread post by humanbeing » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:36 pm

Well I think yes, moment the “unambiguous”, “clear” and “distinct” Nuss was conferred on Mufaddal Maula, he became :
Masoom
Ghaib Na Jannar
Dead Talker
Most Importantly : Jaan ane MAAL na maalik of bohras !