deedar

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Emm
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deedar

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Unread post by Emm » Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:34 am

I guess throngs of people from all corners of the globe will gather in Surat for a fortnight of countless 'deedar' and maatam.

I was curious about the concept of deedar. Does it have any Quranic/Islamic backing ? Local aamils often ask the question "when was the last time you did deedar?" I fail to see how this has anything to do with your faith or the community.

khan19922001
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Re: deedar

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Unread post by khan19922001 » Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:42 am

Deedar of Sayedna is considered a fundamental corner stone of the Bohra religion, even surpassing the prayers, fasting etc. This is so because the Bohra's belief is that their Maula will save them from the hell fire and lead them to paradise. So it does not matter if you pray or not. So long as you have done the "deedar" or "qadam bossi" of your Maula, its enough to gurantee you a place in Paradise.

Brother Hur, who I now consider an expert on the Bohra religion, can add further.

Lets sit back and think for a minute. If after 1400 years, the true Islam was practiced only by the one million odd Bohra's, why did God send all these Prophets and why did out Prophet (PBUH) suffered so much. ( Bohra's believe that they are the only ones to enter Paradise and all other mortals, be they be Sunni, Ithna Shris, Agha Khani's have a one way ticket to hell)!!!!

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khan19922001
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Re: deedar

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Unread post by khan19922001 » Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:13 am

Hur

Need your comments on the "deedar" issue.

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BB
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Re: deedar

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Unread post by BB » Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:51 am

Hur has gone to SURAT for Deedar.

khan19922001
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Re: deedar

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Unread post by khan19922001 » Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:26 am

Dear Abde Sayedna

Why don't you answer the question raised about "deedar" instead of raving and ranting. Nobody is questioning the authority of God or his Prophets. We are all interested to know if 'deedar' will guarantee a place in heaven. If yes, please inform everyone of this super easy way of entering heaven.

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JC
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Re: deedar

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Unread post by JC » Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:56 pm

Hur is in Surat where tamasha is currently going on. The drama in on and bohras are having deedar and qadam bossi. What a gala.

Brother Khan - why do u seek explanation for deedar??? You KNOW and have written it is WRONG. There is nothing as deedar. bohras are asked to keep photo of burhan every where..!!! so deedar is always there. Beacause of this deedar and qadam bossi bohras will surely go to HELL.

Add one more thing to deedar. Burhani Sandas.!!

Kis baat kee ho fikr mojhko aay maray yaar

Janat mayree hay kay meray ghar hay tasweer-e-burhan aur burhai sundas

Alexp78
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Re: deedar

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Unread post by Alexp78 » Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:30 am

JC, you are a riot!! :D

Emm
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Re: deedar

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Unread post by Emm » Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:06 am

Went for Waaz a couple of times in my local jamaat and the dude here sits on a Takhat and directly above him is a picture of Syyedna. This dude keeps pointing to the picture every now and then. We are only a step away from deifying the Da'i and making an idol of him. Wonder when it'll happen .. probably sooner than later.

khan19922001
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Re: deedar

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Unread post by khan19922001 » Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:21 am

Dear JC

Just want Hur ( a non Bohra ) to expalin why this deedar thing is so important and is it applicable for the Ithna Shris also. If yes, whose deedar do they do, as their Imam is in hiding.

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JC
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Re: deedar

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Unread post by JC » Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:04 pm

Khan

I doubt Hur is non-bohra, he 'seems' to be bohra.

No harm explaining. Deedar - i cannot but laugh..!!

For shias Deedar is i guess not that important for now as they wait for Imam, when (if ever) he comes they will have deedar..!!! They already do purjosh matam and bleed and cry (but not follow) for Hussain - for them that is sufficient a gurantee for Janat.

Don't you think this deedar makes one sick, the other day i stared at a photo of burhan and since that time i m having you know what..!!!