Shahzada & Shahzadies and other in Kothar

[asad]

Comon man .An abde friend describes the difference between shiekh and commoner is two nankhatae's. That is what one gets for 27 lakhs. The two Nankhatae's is at someones fateha ( Tijya).

Best description of a Shiekh ever, never thought it like that. In my city it would have been an extra 2 rs parle G biscuit. whenever I see a Shiekh getting that extra thing it will always bring a smile.

[seeker110]

Yazid ke ghar chote chotey Yazid jaisey bache peda hote hain. Namoomkin hai Saify Mahal sae Ali jaisa bacha peda ho.

[tasneempati]

Q1. Do they go to play in clubs like golf or other games? Wearing libaas-a-anwaar or pant/t-shirts?
A 1. In Public no. In private yes.
Q2. Do they eat out in restaurants (non Bohras)?
A 2. Yes . Not once but plenty of time. ( In India and Abroad.)
Q3. Where they park their mountains of money? What do they do with so much money!!!?
A 3. Swiss bank, real estate, fake trust & welfare societies.
Q4. Has anyone been into Badri / Saify mahal? If yes, please elaborate about what activities are performed and about the infrastructure.
A 5. This has been answered by many forum members earlier. Hold true.
Q5. Most important question: Have they published any Research paper or Analytical reports on Bohraism / Ismailism or similar theology in any international journals?
A 6. Very few of them. Otherwise all other belive in Jaman & Salam rakam.

Equally Applicable to SMS/SKQ Camps.

[DB5253]

I have been to saify mahal many times.

There are three main bldg in saify mahal.
1) saify mahal main bldg
2)burhani bldg
3)al hazhar bldg (cant spell properly)

there is a volly ball court

[ghulam muhammed]

I have been to saify mahal many times.

There are three main bldg in saify mahal.
1) saify mahal main bldg.
2)burhani bldg
3)al hazhar bldg (cant spell properly)

there is a volly ball court

The above are open to public except the huge room which is stuffed with tonnes and tonnes of hard cash extorted from bohras.

Have you been to any of the zaadas/zaadis rooms and saw the gold taps and wash basins ?

Read this thread :

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4221&hilit=inside+saifee+mahal

[DB5253]

@ghulam bhai
its open to public only when there is a program & for which passes are issued online.

In other days its not open to public.
Even if u r big shot Watchmen will not allow u to come in, if u have came 4 some work or to meet some bhaisaheb then watchmen will call on extension line & if they give permission then only u can enter by doing entry in register.

Even workers who work there has id cards.

[AbdulSaleh]

@ghulam bhai
its open to public only when there is a program & for which passes are issued online.

In other days its not open to public.
Even if u r big shot Watchmen will not allow u to come in, if u have came 4 some work or to meet some bhaisaheb then watchmen will call on extension line & if they give permission then only u can enter by doing entry in register.

Even workers who work there has id cards.

Imam Ali kaa ghar unke shia ke liye hamesha khula thaa, ye haraam ke jane momeen ko ghar mein bhi aane dete?

in haraam khoro pe Allah kaa gazab girna fard hain AMEEN.

saifi mahal was gifted by momeen and they are renovating it from years on the expenses of momeen, yet momeen cant enter this house?

[ghulam muhammed]

Even workers who work there has id cards.

They not only have ID cards but practically all of them are non-bohras ! Now why don't they employ bohra maids and servants ? Don't we have poor bohras living in Mumbra and Dharavi who can hardly make two ends meet ? It is their prime duty to see that first and foremost poor bohras are taken care of, after all charity begins at home but they will never do this because if they do so then their "Pol khul jaayegi" !

[DB5253]

There are few bohras working 24*7, they are frm small villages of gujarat.

[Invictius]

Even workers who work there has id cards.

They not only have ID cards but practically all of them are non-bohras ! Now why don't they employ bohra maids and servants ? Don't we have poor bohras living in Mumbra and Dharavi who can hardly make two ends meet ? It is their prime duty to see that first and foremost poor bohras are taken care of, after all charity begins at home but they will never do this because if they do so then their "Pol khul jaayegi" !

So true! maybe they should hire you first

[DB5253]

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Imam Ali kaa ghar unke shia ke liye hamesha khula thaa, ye haraam ke jane momeen ko ghar mein bhi aane dete?

in haraam khoro pe Allah kaa gazab girna fard hain AMEEN.

saifi mahal was gifted by momeen and they are renovating it from years on the expenses of momeen, yet momeen cant enter this house?

@Abdul saleh
bhai years back people could meet mahatma gandhi,nehru,etc easy way. People could that talk with them.

But today can u go to pm's house. Its is run by tax payer's money. Or can u go at any minister's offical bunglow to have a walk inside.
Minister are elected by public & their expenses r bare by tax payers money.

[SBM]

But today can u go to pm's house. Its is run by tax payer's money. Or can u go at any minister's offical bunglow to have a walk inside.
Minister are elected by public & their expenses r bare by tax payers money.
DB5253

You are right:
the difference is we can vote out the PM when they do not perform but can we do the same to the Ayash occupants of Saify Mahal?
A religious leader who at the drop of hat mentions Ahul Bayat and does Mataam of Imam Hussain should emulate their lives, The life style of PM, his security and his pomp are sanctioned by the voters who voted them in and if they do not agree, they vote them out next election.
Here is the deal. Can Kothar ask during their Wayaz to all ABDES if they approve of their life style and high living in a secret ballot supervised by an independent observer and if majority approve their life style, I am sure all the critics including me will shut up for ever.

[ghulam muhammed]

So true! maybe they should hire you first

They should actually hire foot lickers like you who specialise in reverse sajdas and is highly qualified as a slave (abde) !

[SBM]

Kabhi khud bhi Pasina Baha kar to dekho.
> > Mehnat se Roti kama kar to dekho.
> >
> > Aasan hai Najwaa aur Salaam lena.
> > Kisi Muflis pe Paisa luta kar to dekho.
> >
> > Taalim ka Kharcha kabhi Kiraye ka Matam.
> > Ghar chalta hai kaise kabhi aa kar to dekho.
> >
> > Niyaaz, Salaam,kabhi Najwa, Ziyaafat.
> > Kabhi tum bhi ye Kharcha utha kar to dekho.
> >
> > Biwi, Bachchon pe Gussa nikalne walon.
> > Do baatein apne Aamil ko suna kar to dekho.
> >
> > Tabdili na aaye ye Mumkin nahi.
> > Bus tum Aastinein apni charha kar to dekho.
> >
> > Dahej se zyada kharcha hai inka.
> > Tum Shaadi ka Mandap saja kar to dekho.
> >
> > Jamaat ki Laagat chukaye bina.
> > Kisi Marhoom ki Mayyat utha kar to dekho.
> >
> > Halaq se na utremge Sookhey Niwaaley.
> > Inhey Ghar me kisi din bula kar to dekho.

[Rebel]

The problem is with members of the community, most of them believe that people living at Saify Mahal are akin to Gods and are angels so they have give them permission to lead this lavish life style on there hard earned money. If people object and don't provide money to these people residing at Saify Mahal, these residents would surely come to their senses.