Birader
I mentioned it to you from first don't wash off your hands saying no use arguing as I am a non believer. Its not you alone but all the theist world wide come up with the same excuse when it comes to arguing with the atheist. Don't you stupids understand that the argument has to happen between the believer and the non believer only. If we both believe in the same why would we argue.
Imam Hussain and Ashura of moharram
Re: Imam Hussain and Ashura of moharram
I will get to you in a little bit. Please be patient. (For some reason my previous response to you vanished into the ether).nastik wrote:Birader
I mentioned it to you from first don't wash off your hands saying no use arguing as I am a non believer. Its not you alone but all the theist world wide come up with the same excuse when it comes to arguing with the atheist. Don't you stupids understand that the argument has to happen between the believer and the non believer only. If we both believe in the same why would we argue.
Re: Imam Hussain and Ashura of moharram
Nastik
There was no need to label us as STUPID, when many were part of this debate. You have proved to be no different then US stupids either.
There was no need to label us as STUPID, when many were part of this debate. You have proved to be no different then US stupids either.
Re: Imam Hussain and Ashura of moharram
Labbaik Ya Mowla. I will listen and obey for I am one of those who you should take care of but have not yet. May Imam Hussein remind you on Ashara that I exist. I recite sura "wadhuhaha wa lailee iza sujaha".
Labbaik ya Mowla, when you are comfortably ordained and remind us of Imam Hussein in his distress and in anguish praying to Allah "where are those who I trusted in and who should have been with me" I will remember that labbaik ya dai al-Allah you also have foresaken me.
Ya Hussein, please remember me in Ashura when I pray that your Dai has forsaken us as you were foresaken on Ashura by those who pledged to be with you.
Ya Hussein, Ya rabi Hussain, why did you die only to leave behind dai who do not believe what you died for.
Wa lah fatah ya husseina, ya seyeda shodai is what I am left chanting.
Yet my soul will not reach you for it has no one to guide me to you any more.
Salaam Ya Hussein.
Labbaik ya Mowla, when you are comfortably ordained and remind us of Imam Hussein in his distress and in anguish praying to Allah "where are those who I trusted in and who should have been with me" I will remember that labbaik ya dai al-Allah you also have foresaken me.
Ya Hussein, please remember me in Ashura when I pray that your Dai has forsaken us as you were foresaken on Ashura by those who pledged to be with you.
Ya Hussein, Ya rabi Hussain, why did you die only to leave behind dai who do not believe what you died for.
Wa lah fatah ya husseina, ya seyeda shodai is what I am left chanting.
Yet my soul will not reach you for it has no one to guide me to you any more.
Salaam Ya Hussein.
Re: Imam Hussain and Ashura of moharram
A man asked Imam ar-Rida [a], “Why was the Prophet’s nickname Abul Qasim?”
ar-Rida said, “It was because he had a son named Qasim. That was why his nickname was Abul Qasim.”
The man asked him, “O son of the Messenger of Allah! Do you consider me worthy of more explanation?”
ar-Rida said, “Yes. Don’t you know that the Messenger of Allah [s] said, “Ali and I are the fathers of this nation.”
The man said, “Yes, I do.”
ar-Rida said, “Don’t you know that the Messenger of Allah is the father of the entire nation, and Ali is one of the members of this nation?”
The man said, “Yes.”
ar-Rida said, “Don’t you know that Ali is the 'Qasim', or the divider between Paradise and Hell?”
The man replied, “Yes.”
ar-Rida said, “Then that is why the Prophet [s] is called Abul Qasim - as he is the father of the divider between Paradise and Hell.”
The man asked, “What does this mean?”
ar-Rida replied, “The kindness of the Prophet [s] for his nation is like that of a father for his children. The noblest member of his nation is Ali [a]. And after him, the kindness of Ali [a] for the nation is like the kindness of the Prophet [s], since he is the Prophet’s Trustee, Successor and the Proof after the Prophet [s]. That is why the Prophet [s] said, “Ali and I are the two fathers of this nation.”
حَدَّثَنا مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ إِبْراهيمِ بْنِ إِسْحاق الطَّالِقانِيُّ رَضِىَ اللهُ عَنْهُ قالَ: حَدَّثَنا أَحْمَدِ بْنِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ سَعِيدُ الكُوفِي قالَ: حَدَّثَنا عَلِىِّ بْنِ الحَسَنِ بْنِ عَلِىِّ بْنِ فضال، عَن أَبيهِ قالَ: سَأَلْتُ الرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ فَقُلْتُ لَهُ لِمَ كُنِّيَ النَّبِيُ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ بِأَبِي الْقَاسِمِ فَقَالَ لانَّهُ كَانَ لَهُ ابْنٌ يُقَالُ لَهُ قَاسِمٌ فَكُنِّيَ بِهِ قَالَ فَقُلْتُ يَا ابْنَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ فَهَلْ تَرَانِي أَهْلاً لِلزِّيَادَةِ فَقَالَ نَعَمْ أَمَا عَلِمْتَ أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ قَالَ أَنَا وَعَلِيٌّ أَبَوَا هَذِهِ الأُمَّةِ قُلْتُ بَلَى قَالَ أَمَا عَلِمْتَ أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ أَبٌ لِجَمِيعِ أُمَّتِهِ وَعَلِيٌّ بِمَنْزِلَتِهِ فِيهِمْ قُلْتُ بَلَى قَالَ أَمَا عَلِمْتَ أَنَّ عَلِيّاً قَاسِمُ الْجَنَّةِ وَالنَّارِ قُلْتُ بَلَى قَالَ فَقِيلَ لَهُ أَبُو الْقَاسِمِ لانَّهُ أَبُو قَاسِمِ الْجَنَّةِ وَالنَّارِ فَقُلْتُ لَهُ وَمَا مَعْنَى ذَلِكَ فَقَالَ إِنَّ شَفَقَةَ الرَّسُولِ عَلَى أُمَّتِهِ شَفَقَةُ الآْبَاءِ عَلَى أَلأَوْلادِ وَأَفْضَلُ أُمَّتِهِ عَلِيٌ عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ وَمِنْ بَعْدِهِ شَفَقَةُ عَلِيٍ عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ عَلَيْهِمْ كَشَفَقَتِهِ لانَّهُ وَصِيُّهُ وَخَلِيفَتُهُ وَالإِمَامُ بَعْدَهُ فَلِذَلِكَ قَالَ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ أَنَا وَعَلِيٌّ أَبَوَا هَذِهِ الأُمَّةِ وَصَعِدَ النَّبِيُ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ الْمِنْبَرَ فَقَالَ مَنْ تَرَكَ دَيْناً أَوْ ضَيَاعاً فَعَلَيَّ وَإِلَيَّ وَمَنْ تَرَكَ مَالاً فَلِوَرَثَتِهِ فَصَارَ بِذَلِكَ أَوْلَى بِهِمْ مِنْ آبَائِهِمْ وَأُمَّهَاتِهِمْ وَصَارَ أَوْلَى بِهِمْ مِنْهُمْ بِأَنْفُسِهِمْ وَكَذَلِكَ أَمِيرُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ بَعْدَهُ جَرَى لَهُ مِثْلُ مَا جَرَى لِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ
(Uyun Al Akhbar Al Reza Vol. 2 Ch. 32 Hadees. 29)
ar-Rida said, “It was because he had a son named Qasim. That was why his nickname was Abul Qasim.”
The man asked him, “O son of the Messenger of Allah! Do you consider me worthy of more explanation?”
ar-Rida said, “Yes. Don’t you know that the Messenger of Allah [s] said, “Ali and I are the fathers of this nation.”
The man said, “Yes, I do.”
ar-Rida said, “Don’t you know that the Messenger of Allah is the father of the entire nation, and Ali is one of the members of this nation?”
The man said, “Yes.”
ar-Rida said, “Don’t you know that Ali is the 'Qasim', or the divider between Paradise and Hell?”
The man replied, “Yes.”
ar-Rida said, “Then that is why the Prophet [s] is called Abul Qasim - as he is the father of the divider between Paradise and Hell.”
The man asked, “What does this mean?”
ar-Rida replied, “The kindness of the Prophet [s] for his nation is like that of a father for his children. The noblest member of his nation is Ali [a]. And after him, the kindness of Ali [a] for the nation is like the kindness of the Prophet [s], since he is the Prophet’s Trustee, Successor and the Proof after the Prophet [s]. That is why the Prophet [s] said, “Ali and I are the two fathers of this nation.”
حَدَّثَنا مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ إِبْراهيمِ بْنِ إِسْحاق الطَّالِقانِيُّ رَضِىَ اللهُ عَنْهُ قالَ: حَدَّثَنا أَحْمَدِ بْنِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ سَعِيدُ الكُوفِي قالَ: حَدَّثَنا عَلِىِّ بْنِ الحَسَنِ بْنِ عَلِىِّ بْنِ فضال، عَن أَبيهِ قالَ: سَأَلْتُ الرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ فَقُلْتُ لَهُ لِمَ كُنِّيَ النَّبِيُ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ بِأَبِي الْقَاسِمِ فَقَالَ لانَّهُ كَانَ لَهُ ابْنٌ يُقَالُ لَهُ قَاسِمٌ فَكُنِّيَ بِهِ قَالَ فَقُلْتُ يَا ابْنَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ فَهَلْ تَرَانِي أَهْلاً لِلزِّيَادَةِ فَقَالَ نَعَمْ أَمَا عَلِمْتَ أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ قَالَ أَنَا وَعَلِيٌّ أَبَوَا هَذِهِ الأُمَّةِ قُلْتُ بَلَى قَالَ أَمَا عَلِمْتَ أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ أَبٌ لِجَمِيعِ أُمَّتِهِ وَعَلِيٌّ بِمَنْزِلَتِهِ فِيهِمْ قُلْتُ بَلَى قَالَ أَمَا عَلِمْتَ أَنَّ عَلِيّاً قَاسِمُ الْجَنَّةِ وَالنَّارِ قُلْتُ بَلَى قَالَ فَقِيلَ لَهُ أَبُو الْقَاسِمِ لانَّهُ أَبُو قَاسِمِ الْجَنَّةِ وَالنَّارِ فَقُلْتُ لَهُ وَمَا مَعْنَى ذَلِكَ فَقَالَ إِنَّ شَفَقَةَ الرَّسُولِ عَلَى أُمَّتِهِ شَفَقَةُ الآْبَاءِ عَلَى أَلأَوْلادِ وَأَفْضَلُ أُمَّتِهِ عَلِيٌ عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ وَمِنْ بَعْدِهِ شَفَقَةُ عَلِيٍ عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ عَلَيْهِمْ كَشَفَقَتِهِ لانَّهُ وَصِيُّهُ وَخَلِيفَتُهُ وَالإِمَامُ بَعْدَهُ فَلِذَلِكَ قَالَ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ أَنَا وَعَلِيٌّ أَبَوَا هَذِهِ الأُمَّةِ وَصَعِدَ النَّبِيُ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ الْمِنْبَرَ فَقَالَ مَنْ تَرَكَ دَيْناً أَوْ ضَيَاعاً فَعَلَيَّ وَإِلَيَّ وَمَنْ تَرَكَ مَالاً فَلِوَرَثَتِهِ فَصَارَ بِذَلِكَ أَوْلَى بِهِمْ مِنْ آبَائِهِمْ وَأُمَّهَاتِهِمْ وَصَارَ أَوْلَى بِهِمْ مِنْهُمْ بِأَنْفُسِهِمْ وَكَذَلِكَ أَمِيرُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ بَعْدَهُ جَرَى لَهُ مِثْلُ مَا جَرَى لِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ
(Uyun Al Akhbar Al Reza Vol. 2 Ch. 32 Hadees. 29)