Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
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Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
All believers in God are following an entity that they only know by what other people have said about that God. Few, if any, know their God from apotheosis or first-hand information.
That fact makes whoever that God is, an idol.
It must be so, as what is believed is not a known or real entity. Believers have no real or personal knowledge or experience of their God. All a believer can have is faith in whichever God they are idolizing based on what others have said.
Do you, as a believer, recognize that you are an idol worshiper?
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All believers in God are following an entity that they only know by what other people have said about that God. Few, if any, know their God from apotheosis or first-hand information.
That fact makes whoever that God is, an idol.
It must be so, as what is believed is not a known or real entity. Believers have no real or personal knowledge or experience of their God. All a believer can have is faith in whichever God they are idolizing based on what others have said.
Do you, as a believer, recognize that you are an idol worshiper?
Regards
DL
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It depends upon how one chooses to define an idol. The Islamic definition of idol is more aligned with the traditional definition of idol which is a representation of God in some material form.
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burqa shrouded definition of GOD is also some unknown, invisible,imaginitive, patriarchial, misogynostic idol somewhere in the sky who permisses sex slaves, sex with infinite no. of concubines, bond maid, and after death, promises virgin hoors with pearly white or crystal eyes
untouched by jinns or ins ( lulual maknun )(56:22,23)
untouched by jinns or ins ( lulual maknun )(56:22,23)
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Qutub bhai, can you atleast please show some maturity? If both of you are going to senselessly troll one another then how and when will this stupid cycle break?qutub_mamajiwala wrote:burqa shrouded definition of GOD is also some unknown, invisible,imaginitive, patriarchial, misogynostic idol somewhere in the sky who permisses sex slaves, sex with infinite no. of concubines, bond maid, and after death, promises virgin hoors with pearly white or crystal eyes
untouched by jinns or ins ( lulual maknun )(56:22,23)
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bro zinger.. sorry point taken and noted
liked the operating part of ur message in bold
liked the operating part of ur message in bold
Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
mamaji, you do not have to worry about surah 56:22, 23. Those rewards are not for people like you. They are for people who believe in the Quran as it was revealed and follow it as the prophet (saw) followed it. Not a bikini interpretation of it.
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i dont want also in jannah.
i have here bikini clad on earth itself.
u desire it in jannah, so to hasten ur desire and get it quickly, what r u doing?
suicide bombing?
dont tell me it is haram--i have video of ZN whom u follow terming it as halal if done under guidance of quran and
sunnah, which u boast of following.
anyway fighting infidel is the main aim of any true practising muslim--so better hurry
seeing present condition--there is rush of men and a long que for it in jannah--hope u are not left out.
better late than sorry.
i have here bikini clad on earth itself.
u desire it in jannah, so to hasten ur desire and get it quickly, what r u doing?
suicide bombing?
dont tell me it is haram--i have video of ZN whom u follow terming it as halal if done under guidance of quran and
sunnah, which u boast of following.
anyway fighting infidel is the main aim of any true practising muslim--so better hurry
seeing present condition--there is rush of men and a long que for it in jannah--hope u are not left out.
better late than sorry.
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I am fighting infidels right here on this board. But thanks for your concern.
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so how many you are able to change or convert in last 15 years?
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It doesn't matter. How many did Nuh (as) convert in 950 years?
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as u wish.
but he lived 1000s of years before, without any modern technology.
do u also want to go that much back in time?
guess mind is already there.
also he lived 100s of years more than u.
do u think u have that much of years left?
anyhow how will u get ur vigin then, if u plan to spend that much time on earth.
but he lived 1000s of years before, without any modern technology.
do u also want to go that much back in time?
guess mind is already there.
also he lived 100s of years more than u.
do u think u have that much of years left?
anyhow how will u get ur vigin then, if u plan to spend that much time on earth.
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He was a prophet. He didn't need technology. He had the most powerful angel at his disposal. Seriously man, I don't know why I am wasting my time discussing these things with you. It is like arguing with a 7 year old who has the brain of a 3 year old!! It doesn't matter how many I convert. The prophet (saw) was told clearly in the Quran that converting people is not his job. His job is simply to deliver the message.
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The answer is no.Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Please re-read Surah Ikhlas
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are u delivering the message or fighting the infidels to deliver the message?
first come out of ur confusion.
if it is fighting, then no use crying victimisation or persecution of muslims everywhere coz --that is sheer hypocrisy
coz in war u loose some-win some.
if only delivering then must be ready to hear and allow other side too even if false.
but u dont want others to propagate their religions and authenticating scholars who justify tafkiri killings--again sheer hypocrisy.
guess where u stand?
first come out of ur confusion.
if it is fighting, then no use crying victimisation or persecution of muslims everywhere coz --that is sheer hypocrisy
coz in war u loose some-win some.
if only delivering then must be ready to hear and allow other side too even if false.
but u dont want others to propagate their religions and authenticating scholars who justify tafkiri killings--again sheer hypocrisy.
guess where u stand?
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Right, so you should be ready to lose at the hands of the muslims. That is what is going to happen in the end. And no, it isn't going to be half chaddi muslims like you, it will be the muslims who follow the Quran and the Sunnah of the prophet (saw).
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well good when it happens.
till then why are u crying victimization, persecution of muslims, crocodile tears for riots affected ola musalmaano.
keep on saying today muslims are most viled and bombarded.
it is all part of the game.
atleast play it fairly--seerath of prophet if u care to follow
till then why are u crying victimization, persecution of muslims, crocodile tears for riots affected ola musalmaano.
keep on saying today muslims are most viled and bombarded.
it is all part of the game.
atleast play it fairly--seerath of prophet if u care to follow
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Because it is victimization. Plain and simple. Only Muslim haters want muslims to quietly suffer. They shouldn't. they need to rise up and prove to the world that the secular nations that are persecuting muslims is because they know the muslims are going to be victorious very soon.
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but muslims are also meant to hate non muslims and they are doing a very gud job of it.
but there will be reaction according to newton.
but hey not learning newton will not let u to hell.
but not hating non-muslim will .
but there will be reaction according to newton.
but hey not learning newton will not let u to hell.
but not hating non-muslim will .
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I have been taking that description a bit further and internalizing it as that is where idolization occurs.anajmi wrote:It depends upon how one chooses to define an idol. The Islamic definition of idol is more aligned with the traditional definition of idol which is a representation of God in some material form.
From the Oxford Concise Dictionary of World Religions (2000 Oxford U. Press) p. 266
"Idolatry (Gk eidolon image + latreia worship.) The attributing of absolute value to that which is not absolute, and acting toward that object, person or concept as though it is worthy of worship or complete commitment. In a religious context this most usually mean treating as God that which is not God, and in particular acting toward a representation of God as if it is God. Thus idolatry is associated with the worship of idols, as though these are the actuality of God. In that sense, idolatry is extremely rare, since most religious worshippers are well aware that the signpost is not be be confused with that which is signified." [Discussion of the attitude to idolatry in Judaism and Islam follows.]
All the worship is directed to the concept that people create in their minds.
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DL
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvBxFXQy7-Manajmi wrote:He was a prophet. He didn't need technology. He had the most powerful angel at his disposal. .
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You do not idolize Mohammad or Allah?KA786110 wrote:The answer is no.Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Please re-read Surah Ikhlas
You do not consider either a supreme or absolute being?
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Why in particular do you think people hate about Muslims?anajmi wrote:Because it is victimization. Plain and simple. Only Muslim haters want muslims to quietly suffer. They shouldn't. they need to rise up and prove to the world that the secular nations that are persecuting muslims is because they know the muslims are going to be victorious very soon.
I know that some do not like your ideology because they think it immoral but that is not the same as hating Muslims.
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The same reason a poor man hates a rich man. Especially a poor man who has the power to steal from the rich.Why in particular do you think people hate about Muslims?
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You have it backwards.anajmi wrote:The same reason a poor man hates a rich man. Especially a poor man who has the power to steal from the rich.Why in particular do you think people hate about Muslims?
In this case, it is the morally rich who hate the morally poor Muslims.
Why do they see Muslims as morally poor?
Because Muslims say Jesus was a prophet that they respect, yet do not do his first moral tenet of loving your neighbor and doing unto others as you would want done to you.
Muslims ignore the Golden Rule.
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DL
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Not sure which muslims you are referring to. I love my neighbors. Even though they have attacked and destroyed the countries I love.
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There is a time to love and a time to hate.anajmi wrote:Not sure which muslims you are referring to. I love my neighbors. Even though they have attacked and destroyed the countries I love.
You do not know what time it is.
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Let me know when the time to hate starts.
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Best to ask your local jihadist.anajmi wrote:Let me know when the time to hate starts.
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Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
That is why I asked you.