Facts about Sayedna Saheb

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Facts about Sayedna Saheb

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:28 am

Friends,
I have found this write up on one of Kothar’s website. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb is 97 now. Do you find any great achievement that can be credited to him in such a long life? Except giving birth to 10 children, wasting community’s huge money on acquiring honorary doctorate, meeting worldly leaders and bribing them with costly gifts, doing some activities like renovating old mosques and Zareehs at the expense of the community and amassing wealth and living in luxury. Please observe this propaganda in the light of what they are posting to blacken the image of Dr. Asghar Ali Engineer, an internationally renowned Islamic scholar and crusader of peace and harmony.
Also please note that in entire write up there is no mention of Sayedna Saheb being a religious head of the Dawoodi Bohra Community. In fact there is no mention of Bohras at all. May be because the community is insignificant in numbers or may be this is only for Arab and other world rulers.

Facts about Dr. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (T.U.S.) His Holiness Dai-ul-Mutlaq, Dr. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb (T.U.S), was born in Surat , India . On the 20th of Rabi ul Akher 1333 Hijri. Aqa Maula (T.U.S) was married to BooSaheba Amatullah AiSaheba and has seven Shehzadas (Sons) and three Shezadies (Daughters) . All members of this Royal Family reside at Saifee Mahal, Malabar Hill, Bombay.
Aqa Maula (T.U.S.) holds an Honorary Doctorate from the Aligarh University, India , and Al Azhar University , Cairo , Egypt . HUZURALA (T.U.S) has been internationally awarded the Star of Jordan and the Vishaul Nile.
Aqa Maula (T.U.S.) always wears white colour clothes. His (T.U.S) head is always covered with a Chounch ni Topi (especially for namaaz) but HUZURALA (T.U.S) prefers to wear either a Yemeni fehta or a Paagri when travelling. Aqa Maula (T.U.S.) always carries a Marjaan Tasbee, and HUZURALA (T.U.S) likes the Agar Attar best of all. HUZURALA (T.U.S) also likes the fragrance of bhukur. On His (T.U.S) feet HUZURALA (T.U.S) wears slippers called Mogris. Green & white are the two colours most favoured and preferred by Aqa Maula (T.U.S).

Our Maula (T.U.S), a great and compassionate hunter enjoys watching animals, hunting and fishing, horse riding, swimming and walking. HUZURALA (T.U.S) has many ducks, pigeons, deer and rabbits as pets at His (T.U.S) Saifee Mahal residence in Bombay .
Aqa Maula (T.U.S.) enjoys good food and is particularly fond of Hashmo, Chicken, Roti, Fish, Prawns, and Hulbo (a Yemeni dish). Dates, Strawberries and Durian are some of His (T.U.S) favourite fruits. HUZURALA (T.U.S) also likes to drink Belli juice, Rose syrup or Roohafza and Thums up.
Aqa Maula (T.U.S.) uses a green Buick when in Bombay and HUZURALA (T.U.S) used a white stretch Mercedes Benz when HUZURALA (T.U.S) visited Colombo. In addition to these cars, Aqa Maula (T.U.S.) uses many more modes of transport while visiting mumineen all over the world. HUZURALA (T.U.S) has flown over the Atlantic Ocean in the Concorde (the world’s fastest passenger airplane) and HUZURALA (T.U.S) has also used Helicopters. HUZURALA (T.U.S) has sailed in the Conrad Liner (ship) the Queen Elizabeth II, and has travelled across the land in super fast trains . In contrast HUZURALA (T.U.S) has also used simple modes of transportation, such as Camels, Horses and Bullock carts when travelling over difficult terrain (ground). When in the Hill station, Matehran, Aqa Maula (T.U.S.) uses Horses and Rickshaws as cars are not allowed over there.
This luminous son is a perfect man, a man of knowledge and action, a noble sheikh , having collected numerous merits and above all, having angelic characteristics and attributes. By Allah's grace HUZURALA (T.U.S.) becomes today the Treasure of Deen, the Reliance for believers.
Aqa Maula (T.U.S.) has many historical achievements, amongst which are: -
• The Raudat Tahera in Bombay.
• The repair and renovation of the Masjid Al Jame ul Anwar.
• And the Masjid Al Akmer in Egypt.
• The gold plating of Maulana Ali (S.A)'s Zaree in Najaf.
• The Mukalafat-al-Rasool next to Rasul Hussain, where some of our Imams are buried.
• And the construction of Maulatena Zainab's Zaree in Egypt. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb (T.U.S.) who is known as Mansur-ul-Yemen, has turned his special attention to his followers in Yemen.

Their isolation Luke warm attitude towards Deen (Religion) and Aqeedah (Faith) had to be corrected. Nearly 25 days of laborious journeying, proved to be a forerunner for what happened in Yemen thereafter. The construction of the kutba of Syedna Hatim Saheb (R.A.) and the Mosque in Hutaib Mubarak. The unique project for providing water and electricity to the faiz and town, the making of roads to make ziarats accessible to vehicles, were all undertaken by Aqa Maula (T.U.S.)
Among the qualities most admired by our Maula (T.U.S) are truthfulness, loyalty, humility and cleanliness. HUZURALA (T.U.S) loves children and likes to see all mumineen with beards and topi and all muminaat in rida. HUZURALA (T.U.S) does not like to see muminaat with long nails, nail polish and makeup. HUZURALA (T.U.S) also dislikes seeing them wearing a nose stud.
May Allah grant our beloved Maula (T.U.S) a long, happy, healthy and prosperous life till the day of qayaamat ... A'ameen!!

"hawe ek umeed baaqi chhe. Em shoq ane walwalo chhe, Rasulullah SAW ni zarih sona chandi si banau. Fatema ni zarih banaau!."
Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb (TUS) -On 8th Muharrum Ul Haraam,1425- Ashara Mubaraka- Dubai, U.A.E.

"Eh Parvardigar, Tu karam kari ne Rasullah (SAW) ane Fatima (AS) ni Zarih ne banaawu shitaabi si mayasar kari aap."
Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb (TUS) -On Lailatul qadr, 1424

" Sona(gold) ane Chandi(Silver) ne keware naseeb thai ke ye (Fatema (AS)) naa makam ne boso dei (An indication for the construction of a Zarih for Fatema (AS)"
Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb (TUS) -In Munajaat Shareefa at On Lailatul qadr, 1422
"Ibrahim (AS) ni Zarih...Sonu ane Chandi si Ibrahim Nabi(AS) ni zarih bane...em umeed che, ane mumineen moti umeed to ye che! Rasullulah

(SAW) ane Moulatena Fatima ni Zarih banawye..."
Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb (TUS)- At Al Masjid E Hakimi iftetah 20th Shawwal, 1422, Dar Es Salaam, Tanzania

"Ibrahim(AS) koun ke JADDE RASULULLAH(SAW) (Ibrahim, the forefather of Rasulullah(SAW)). Hamne shouq che ke Ibrahim(AS) ni Zarih banaawe. Hashim(AS), Jaffer ut Tayyar(AS) sagla ni Zarih banaawi. Aa Zarih kem nahi?"
Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb (TUS) -On the day of Milaad e Maimoon, in Karachi -1421.

"Su haal thayo che...dil par asaf che, hum gham che ane huzun che... Fatima (AS) ni Zarih ni umeed che...
Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb (TUS)- At Ashara Mubaraka, Indore, India

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Re: Facts about Sayedna Saheb

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Unread post by SBM » Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:01 am

"Aqa Maula (T.U.S.) enjoys good food and is particularly fond of Hashmo, Chicken, Roti, Fish, Prawns"

I thought Bohras are not supposed to eat PRAWNS as they are considered Shell fish.
Please correct me if I am wrong

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Unread post by jayanti » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:01 pm

Mr S.Insaf,
So what are u trying to say, if asgarali cannot achieve its not are problem.find solution and not hate.insaf you are almost 65 plus do some thing for your people instead jealuses

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:49 pm

Originally posted by jayanti:
Mr S.Insaf,
So what are u trying to say, if asgarali cannot achieve its not are problem.find solution and not hate.insaf you are almost 65 plus do some thing for your people instead jealuses
a shining example of the excellent english taught at the "Institute for Higher Learning" located inside the tailoring shop just behind the daras in surat, in the narrow lane bordering the back wall and the municipal dump. these classes are run by raza of Shezaada Aali Waqar Idris Bhaisaheb Palidu-ddin DM. students are prepared here for mounting lame-duck attacks on reformists and also to present an educated, modern face of the kothar to the outside world. some of these students who have passed with 'darajatul khara' degrees in english have gone on to become writers and poets in the english language!

these classes are run by Sheikh Tyrebhai Tubebhai Puncturewala and his loyal servant, Qaid Johar.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:00 pm

""Our Maula (T.U.S), a great and compassionate hunter enjoys watching animals, hunting and fishing,...""

he hunts and kills endangered species of animals with great compassion in the manner of Jack the Ripper who murdered prostitutes in Victorian England with great compassion and humility with the name of Allah on his lips!!

I think the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) should award the syedna with a Humanist and Animal Lover prize in recognition of his greatness, humility and compassion towards the animals which the WWF is trying its best to save from extinction on this planet.

Wah bhai wah, talk of lies and deception...even George W. Bush has a few lessons to learn from our kothar on how to spin an amazing tale.

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:25 pm

Dear Jayanti,
You have asked: insaf you are almost 65 plus do some thing for your people instead jealuses.
You are right I am 66 now. I only wonder the kind of royal life that our Daiz-Zaman has spend producing 10 children, enjoying good food, cloths, attars, pet animals, hunting and travelling in luxurious ships and using imported cars etc. How can he claim to be a Dai of Hazrat Ali (A.S.)?
What role has he performed as a religious guide? What has he done for the upliftment of his followers?
Where as Dr. Asghar Ali Engineer, without any financial resources is carrying on activities consistently to promote communal harmony and liberal Islam. He should be a pride for the community. No members of filthy rich royal family can match his services so they are trying to blacken his image by mischievous propaganda.
Please just think over it.
As you have asked me I am doing my best to enlighten the community about the "Facts of Sayedna Saheb and his royal establishment, you may like it or not.

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Unread post by mumineen » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:56 pm

Please someone tell us why the Aqua Moula is always called by the Kotharis as "Shaantina Doot" or "Harbinger of Peace". What has he done to enhance the world peace. Surely he or his hangers on have disturbed a lots of peace, e.g. calling the Islamic Caliphs derogatory names and causing riots; sowing the seeds of discontent and disharmony amongs his own followers or people who marry his followers, refusing to bury his followers according to the Islamic or Bohri Rites and rituals. Perhaps you could give numerous other examples of disturbance of peace

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Unread post by jayanti » Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:12 am

zulfi,
Atleast i have guts to write in this board.

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Unread post by Dilber » Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:25 am

Aqa Maula (T.U.S.) enjoys good food and is particularly fond of Hashmo, Chicken, Roti, Fish, Prawns, and Hulbo (a Yemeni dish). Dates, Strawberries and Durian are some of His (T.U.S) favourite fruits. HUZURALA (T.U.S) also likes to drink Belli juice, Rose syrup or Roohafza and Thums up
FROM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian

The Javanese believe durian to have aphrodisiac qualities, and impose a strict set of rules on what may or may not be consumed with it or shortly thereafter.[19] A saying in Indonesian, durian jatuh sarung naik, meaning "the durians fall and the sarungs come up", refers to this belief.[45] The warnings against the supposed lecherous quality of this fruit soon spread to the West—the Swedenborgian philosopher Herman Vetterling commented on so-called "erotic properties" of the durian in the early 20th century

Did you notice the phrase durian jatuh sarung naik, meaning "the durians fall and the sarungs come up", refers to this

Now you know what a Sarung means!!! HaHaHa

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:34 pm

Originally posted by jayanti:
zulfi,
Atleast i have guts to write in this board.
definition of guts:
a. The alimentary canal or a portion thereof, especially the intestine or stomach.
b. The embryonic digestive tube, consisting of the foregut, the midgut, and the hindgut, ie. the osesophagus, stomach, small intestine and large intestine.

now that occurs with unfailing regularity in 100% of human beings, incl. mentally retarded persons or those in a mental asylum. i dont know what distinction our retarded friend here can claim for possessing something so common!!

btw, we wud like to show the same guts on yr kothari abdesyedna sites like maalumat, munineen etc. can u pls arrange it?

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:06 pm

if we were to deconstruct the crap posted by the kothari spin-doctors on the life of the syedna, this is what it ends up as:

1. what he loves to wear
2. what he loves to eat
3. what he loves to drink
4. what are his hobbies
5. how he travels
6. where he travels
7. what building projects he undertook with community's money.
8. what projects he has not been able to undertake and about which he constantly yearns.

in all the above, where are the achievements? is eating, drinking, wearing clothes, travelling, - all at community's expense - an achievement or something to be ashamed of when it is not with your hard earned income, but accomplished by sponging off yr gullible believers?

as for building grand masjids and crowing about it, it was all community's money. what was his personal contribution and how much surplus funds were diverted and siphoned off from each such project? in fact that is his greatest achievement, making fools out of people all over the world and swallowing large sums of money while his followers continue to believe in him and throw more money at him.

if there is an award for the "BIGGEST CONMAN IN THE WORLD", then the syedna should get it hands down!!

where else can u find a man who can make 10,000 crores a year tax free, own properties worth maybe a billion dollars, who can travel first class all over the world with his family, eat the most luxurious food, be treated as a VIP and be revered as a GOD, inspite of having done nothing, giving nothing, not being accountable to anyone and being a law unto himself, cursing his enemies and hurling abuse on the companions of the Prophet, having bank balances running into billions??????????????????????

all this conman gives is sweet words and uses faith in religion to fool nearly 2 million people around the world. now that is some accomplishment and hats off, sorry topis off, to this greatest swindler in history.

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Unread post by like_minded » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:28 am

I can only laugh at his achievements, put across by taheris. I am sure all like-minded people here would be doing the same thing.

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Unread post by neutralbohri » Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:40 pm

If i were to be a rational bohri, and if i want to brag about the greatness of my religiuos leader among my non-bohri or non-muslim friends, i will only have a couple of lines at the max from the "Facts about Sayedna Saheb" essay, truly speaking.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:37 pm

to claim greatness on the lines of what is written by the kothari spin doctors themselves about the syedna, even a typical 5 year old bohra child can be projected as great. eg.:

1. the child is obedient and brushes his teeth twice a day.
2. the child eats 3 balanced meals in a day.
3. the child was born without a fuss in a simple hospital.
4. he goes to deeniyat classes and has learnt to recite several surahs.
5. the child loves to play ball and has good eye-hand co-ordination.
6. he laughs a lot.
7. he has 5 brothers and sisters.
8. he asks many intelligent questions.
9. he goes to school enthusiastically and is the darling of his teachers.
10. he goes to sleep on time after drinking hot milk..
11. he loves animals passionately and would never harm or shoot them.
12. he loves to wear grown up clothes and sometimes goes naked too.
13. he got potty trained at 2 years old and never spoils his clothes..

blah blah blah etc.. wow, what wonderful attributes! surely he will be a syedna one day..

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Unread post by Safiuddin » Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:27 pm

:D very good Zulfi

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Unread post by Safiuddin » Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:48 pm

"hawe ek umeed baaqi chhe. Em shoq ane walwalo chhe, Rasulullah SAW ni zarih sona chandi si banau.
Ane em ummeed rakhoo choo ke mumineen saglaa faakhir ane faakhir salaam ane hadiya mane pesh karta jai - taake mein ane maari ahl saglaa mumineen naa paisa si ziyaada aish-o-aaram karta rahey ane beejha logo na paisaa si main maaru naam qaim karoon.

Main su sunoo choo? Koi mumineen ehwa che ke ehna ghar ma anaaj daana ni tangi che? Kaik mumineen na ghar ma beemari che ane ilaaj na paisa nathi?
Are, maara pyaara pyaara farzando! Tamaari daulat na malik dai che! Tamaari jaan na maalik dai che! Tamaara faakhir salaam, sajdaa, ane paisa na badla maa, mein tamaara waaste dua karees.
Ghani dua karees.
Maara farzando tamaara shehero ma aksar aawta rehse.
Ehne ghanaa faakhir salaam karjo.
Eh logo bhi tamaara waaste ghani dua karse.

Kem ke tame dua karso to koi sunnaar nathi. Mein to Ilah Al Ard choo. Mane sajdo karjo, maari tasweer ni puja raat ne din karjo, ane ehna badla maa? Tamaare waaste dua no dariyo haazir che!

Paran tamaari daulat to maari che.Maara mahalo maa Imaam Al Zamaan ni hazrat maa tamaare waaste dua karees, ane tamaara maatam no hadiyo mein ahne pesh karees. Ya Hussain!
(Insert appropriate marasiya and/or madeh here)

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Unread post by Shahu » Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:05 pm

I had heard one of the follwoing madeh, but I don't know it compleletly. If someone can complete it.

"Gar tujhe khuda bhi kahien to ajab nahien..."

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:25 pm

"hawe ek umeed baaqi chhe. Em shoq ane walwalo chhe, Rasulullah SAW ni zarih sona chandi si banau."

ey koshish ma hu ek lakh tola sonu bhegu karu ane emathi 3 lakh mara ane mara farzando wastey rakhu, taake e loko emna bedroom ma sona ni machardani banave ane sukun thi suvey, emne muddai macchar satavey nahi aney te logo aisho aaram ma zindagi basar karey, evi dili ummeed rakhu chu...

rasulallah ni zareeh banavye to ena pachi emna deen par amal kariye che ke nahi ene duniyawala bhooli jasey, ane mane islam deen na badshah no khitab malse...ya hussain.!!!

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Unread post by jayanti » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:03 am

dawat ni zaban........................