Admin,
I remember some years back you mentioned the need of funds to keep the reform movement going. I want to know the mode, contact etc if one wants to contribute from India.
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I do second tahir's proposal, i would suggest paypal or an address to send money orders and cheques.
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Funny that you should bring up this topic. We have been mulling over exactly the same idea of late, call it an uncanny coincidence, if you will. A new site-design is under construction and we hope to include a paypal feature with it.
However, there is also another kind of contribution we seek from members/supporters. In the new design we want to include a section profiling prominent bohra reformists from all over the world. The profiles can include a brief bio of the person and their contributions to the reformist cause.
If any of you who has the knowledge and resources to write about these personalities please let us know. Our stories about our people and experiences deserved to be told and documented. All of us can achieve it together.
We remember Porus writing about Karimjee Jivanjee on this board at one time. If he can turn that into a more formal and structured write-up it would be greatly appreciated. He is welcome to write about any other reformist personality he knows of.
We will also ask Insaf Bhai to help us in this effort. As a close watcher of the Kothar and a committed life-long reformist he has known many famous personalities about whom he can write with empathy and knowledge. We know we can count on his help and will be writing to him separately.
At one time Kalim also suggested that he has a good deal of bohra literature that can be make available in PDF format. We would like to ask him revisit that project.
Thank you,
Admin
However, there is also another kind of contribution we seek from members/supporters. In the new design we want to include a section profiling prominent bohra reformists from all over the world. The profiles can include a brief bio of the person and their contributions to the reformist cause.
If any of you who has the knowledge and resources to write about these personalities please let us know. Our stories about our people and experiences deserved to be told and documented. All of us can achieve it together.
We remember Porus writing about Karimjee Jivanjee on this board at one time. If he can turn that into a more formal and structured write-up it would be greatly appreciated. He is welcome to write about any other reformist personality he knows of.
We will also ask Insaf Bhai to help us in this effort. As a close watcher of the Kothar and a committed life-long reformist he has known many famous personalities about whom he can write with empathy and knowledge. We know we can count on his help and will be writing to him separately.
At one time Kalim also suggested that he has a good deal of bohra literature that can be make available in PDF format. We would like to ask him revisit that project.
Thank you,
Admin
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Admin: Paypal is lately very intrusive, they require lot of ids etc to open an account, please include a mailbox address, where drafts or money orders can be sent.
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haseebsiddique
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Salams Tahir, Admin & Accountability,
Guys you are doing a nice job there, just be there for our moral Support here in Gujarat, What I mean is, for the Muslims irrespective of all the sects,
Cos the ravaging Mr. Modi is expected to reatain his throne at Gandhinagar (Allah Forbidding) by December 2007 end,
and if Allah chooses the other way, Muslims here are going have a rough time, as we have seen it between 2002-2006.
Remember us in you Dua'aa and ask all Bohri friends here in Gujarat to buy houses in Muslim localities, as Muslims who have moved to Ghetto's after 2002 have suceeded at a fair level in creating an 'Economic Cycle' of their own.
Bohra Brothers,,,,,,NICE BUSINESS THERE,,,,,,,,,AND SAFETY TOO
Guys you are doing a nice job there, just be there for our moral Support here in Gujarat, What I mean is, for the Muslims irrespective of all the sects,
Cos the ravaging Mr. Modi is expected to reatain his throne at Gandhinagar (Allah Forbidding) by December 2007 end,
and if Allah chooses the other way, Muslims here are going have a rough time, as we have seen it between 2002-2006.
Remember us in you Dua'aa and ask all Bohri friends here in Gujarat to buy houses in Muslim localities, as Muslims who have moved to Ghetto's after 2002 have suceeded at a fair level in creating an 'Economic Cycle' of their own.
Bohra Brothers,,,,,,NICE BUSINESS THERE,,,,,,,,,AND SAFETY TOO
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I will certainly do so. In fact, I would like to contribute in anyway possible, financially or otherwise.At one time Kalim also suggested that he has a good deal of bohra literature that can be make available in PDF format. We would like to ask him revisit that project.
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MFN,
i think by forming ghettos are living seperately frm other communities it wud be more of a victory for Modi than for muslims in gujarat.....cuz thats wat he wants to do...to divide ppl on religious lines n win vote banks
i m a native of godhra n was there in baroda during the riots for my studies.....i have seen sme of my very good friends suddenly turn into extremists...it hurt to hear such views....but they only way u can change them is by showing ppl that there are no diferences..whether ur hindu or muslim...that we can live together in peace....if we wanted to live in ghettos we wud hav gone to pakistan!!!!!
i think by forming ghettos are living seperately frm other communities it wud be more of a victory for Modi than for muslims in gujarat.....cuz thats wat he wants to do...to divide ppl on religious lines n win vote banks
i m a native of godhra n was there in baroda during the riots for my studies.....i have seen sme of my very good friends suddenly turn into extremists...it hurt to hear such views....but they only way u can change them is by showing ppl that there are no diferences..whether ur hindu or muslim...that we can live together in peace....if we wanted to live in ghettos we wud hav gone to pakistan!!!!!
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MFN,Originally posted by Muslim-First Nephew:
Salams Tahir, Admin & Accountability,
Guys you are doing a nice job there, just be there for our moral Support here in Gujarat, What I mean is, for the Muslims irrespective of all the sects,
Cos the ravaging Mr. Modi is expected to reatain his throne at Gandhinagar (Allah Forbidding) by December 2007 end,
I agree with makberi. Don't react the way modi wants you to react. Try to understand the designs of fascist forces and act smartly.
If you look inward, you will only help modi to stereotype muslims and the man will keep coming back in power riding on the anti muslim wave.
I know it is difficult, but if you have strong faith in Almighty, understand that modi is a midget in the scheme of nature and he cannot inflict any harm on you unless you allow him to.
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haseebsiddique
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Salams Tahir & Makberi,
I wouldnt disagree with you on that count. I understand creating Ghettos and getting out of small breathing pockets within the Non-Muslim communities is a 'Welcoming & Winning' move for 'Blood Sucking Mr. Modi',
But I am located here in Baroda and have been in the thick of the carnage between 2002-2006, belive me you wouldnt disagree with me if you were here and would have seen it the way we have,,,,,,,what would you have chosen,,,"Death, Rape, Property Loss, Amputation, Misery on one side or a Ghetto on the other",,,,,,,,Of course Brothers,,,,,,a Ghetto,,,,,,
A Ghetto in Gujarat is not by choice,,,,,its by force from the other side and compromise from our side.
I wouldnt disagree with you on that count. I understand creating Ghettos and getting out of small breathing pockets within the Non-Muslim communities is a 'Welcoming & Winning' move for 'Blood Sucking Mr. Modi',
But I am located here in Baroda and have been in the thick of the carnage between 2002-2006, belive me you wouldnt disagree with me if you were here and would have seen it the way we have,,,,,,,what would you have chosen,,,"Death, Rape, Property Loss, Amputation, Misery on one side or a Ghetto on the other",,,,,,,,Of course Brothers,,,,,,a Ghetto,,,,,,
A Ghetto in Gujarat is not by choice,,,,,its by force from the other side and compromise from our side.
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mfn,
living seperately in ghettos will only increase suspicion and fear.....regarding life or death..its in no one hands...u cant even guarantee safety in a muslim ghetto..i used to stay in panigate which was a predominantly muslim area in baroda...b4 the riots..fortunately i had left for udaipur during the riots...but my roomates had to face many hardships despite living in a muslim area......its better to live freely than living enclosed in a shell....
living seperately in ghettos will only increase suspicion and fear.....regarding life or death..its in no one hands...u cant even guarantee safety in a muslim ghetto..i used to stay in panigate which was a predominantly muslim area in baroda...b4 the riots..fortunately i had left for udaipur during the riots...but my roomates had to face many hardships despite living in a muslim area......its better to live freely than living enclosed in a shell....
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haseebsiddique
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Salams Brother Makberi
Again I wouldnt disagree with you, but as I said we Muslims do not move into the Ghettos by choice but we have no options other than doing so. What happened in Gujarat in 2002 has left a long lasting impact on the phyche of those who have been the victims and also those who have been witness to this 'disgraceful Modi pass-time'.
On the other hand Ghettos are not that good but how about this, the basic rules of an Economy, the Ghettos have provided new oppertunities for new businsess and right from the 'bhangar-business' to 'furniture show-rooms', there is a small economic circulating cycle created within the Ghettos of both Juhapura at Ahmedabad and Tandalja at Baroda. These cycles have brought new opportunities for the un-employed and labour for the poorest of the poor and that too in a 'safer zone'
Again I wouldnt disagree with you, but as I said we Muslims do not move into the Ghettos by choice but we have no options other than doing so. What happened in Gujarat in 2002 has left a long lasting impact on the phyche of those who have been the victims and also those who have been witness to this 'disgraceful Modi pass-time'.
On the other hand Ghettos are not that good but how about this, the basic rules of an Economy, the Ghettos have provided new oppertunities for new businsess and right from the 'bhangar-business' to 'furniture show-rooms', there is a small economic circulating cycle created within the Ghettos of both Juhapura at Ahmedabad and Tandalja at Baroda. These cycles have brought new opportunities for the un-employed and labour for the poorest of the poor and that too in a 'safer zone'
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i think it makes more economic sense to live in a mixed society and have ur shop their...rather than have a limited market in a ghetto.....i agree there was a lotta discrimination some time b4 and after the riots but i also agree with modi regarding the fact that the english press has many times tried to potray gujarati as fundamentalist hindus.....which is totally wrong....if u work hard ....u surely wont be discriminated against in gujarat.....wat happened during the godhra riots wud have happened anywhere in india.....its not that gujarati hindus are extremists.....things r pretty much back to normal now...the scars remain....but hindu and muslim gujaratis have coexisted for centuries...lets not this one incident ruin years of brothehood......