ghanu jeevo.. ta qayamat ghanu jeevo...

[tahir]

Originally posted by porus:

jahannum-maa.n hazaaro saal jalse aap na dushman
kahe chhe saglaa qudsaani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

This line highlights the fundamental differece between inward looking closed cults and outward looking eastern religions. If it was Hinduism or Buddhism, they would have prayed heaven and enlightenment even for the enemies.

[tahir]

Originally posted by mbohra:
Porus:

Isn't this an adaptation or plagiarized from the following Jay Swami Narayan's version?

Don't know about the content, but the tunes of almost all bohra madehs and marsiyas are blatantly plagiarised from bollywood songs. Creativity doesn't flourish in cults.

[like_minded]

Originally posted by tahir:

Originally posted by porus:

jahannum-maa.n hazaaro saal jalse aap na dushman
kahe chhe saglaa qudsaani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

This line highlights the fundamental differece between inward looking closed cults and outward looking eastern religions. If it was Hinduism or Buddhism, they would have prayed heaven and enlightenment even for the enemies.

I fully agree with you, Hatred is being preached properly and drilled into the bohra minds.

If Kothar is so sure about its preaching and shaan, then why bother about dushmans?? They should have the heart to forgive their dushmans.

[tahir]

"Destruction of enemy" exhortations also indicate that people follow the cult head out of fear and not out of love.

[Al Zulfiqar]

OZYMANDIAS
I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock'd them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

and thus will bade farewell to this mortal world,
the ghanu jeevo syedna who vowed to take us to paradise.
neither his shaan, nor his and his blind follower's pleadings,
will spare him from the hear-after,
his ill-gotten wealth, his quwwat
and his command, will soon be forgotten.

[ponga bhori]

Ya Ya,
But what about the next one comming.
For the bhoris this shall never end.
So the way out end being a bhori.

[jayanti]

udaipur

[Al Zulfiqar]

porus, thanks very much for posting the ghanu jeevo filmi qawwali.

u mentioned that this is the abridged version and that there is another fuller version. could you also please post that for our benefit?

there is an upcoming eid party and i have been asked to sing some new songs. this one will be a hit, for sure...

[porus]

Full version of Ghanoo Jeevo:
(Notice how Sayedna is being called sher-e-yazdaani, the appelate normally reserved for amirul-mumineen, Ali ibn Abi Taalib).



ay saifuddeen na jaani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo
muhammad noor qudsaani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

imam-ul-asr na naa'ib, khuda-na ism-e-aazam ni
karoo.n mei.n mad'h man maani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

woh saifuddeen na mansoos, ay burhan-e-dee.n aqa
thaya taali ane thaani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

ay aqa aap par sadqe, ay mawla aap par qurban
chho bawa aap roohaani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

hidaayat hamane aapo chho, sa'aadat hamane baksho chho
bashaarat do chho uqbaani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

malik chho aap ibdaai, malik qudsi thaya zaahir
lai qaalib aa insaani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

na dekha aap na hamshha.n, jiware sab uquloya
aa khalqat ne ghani chhaani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

jo dekha aap ne to, panjatan tayyib zamaa.n dekha
haqiqat aa hame.n jaani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

kitab-ul-ilm ma mawla ali-ye sheh muhammad ni
ghani kidi thanaa-khwani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

kari dido aa daawat no chaman, phal phoolo.n si aabaad
pilawi ilm-na paani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

ghana naaz-o-ne'am maa.n hamane paalo chhe nathi taaqat
ne'am par shukr karwani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

khuda na dushmano ne aalam-e-deen si mitawa ne
muhammad sher-e-yazdaani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

jahannum-maa.n hazaaro saal jalse aap na dushman
kahe chhe saglaa qudsaani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

ay burhan-ul-huda baawan ma.n dai, aankh ni thandak
imam-ul-asr mawla n, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

chhoo bawan-ma kare iqraar, em haq ni tasawwur lai
har ek aali ane daani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

pidar saif-ul-huda mawla, jewa mawla muhammad chho
chho bilkul aql noorani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

chhe anjum sa'ad na khidmat guzaaro, te sada dar par
malaaik ni chhe darbaani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

chhe majlis taaj poshi ni, ane chhe waaz noorani
ane arsh-e-sulaymaani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

imam-ul-asr ni daawat na khatir, mumineen khatir
dua chhe em sagalaani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

yamaani abd-e-khaki ni chhe tasbih raat deen mawla
zamee.n par mooki peshaani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

[SBM]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
kari dido aa daawat no chaman, phal phoolo.n si aabaad
pilawi ilm-na paani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo

ghana naaz-o-ne'am maa.n hamane paalo chhe nathi taaqat
ne'am par shukr karwani, ghanoo jeevo, ghanoo jeevo
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
My Take
KARI DIDO AA KOTHAR NO CHAMAN, DOLLAR AND DINAR SI AABAD
PILAWI GADHRAO NE PAANI, JALDI KHISKO, JALDKI KHISKI

GHANO DHAMKAWI NE LO CHO HUM SE NAJWA ANE WAJEBAT
NATHI TAAQAT HUM PER NA KEHWANI, JALDI KISHKO, JALDI KISHKO

[profrog]

at least the progs here agree on one thing with us that you are dawat na dushman,and for us then you are to be hated like snakes and scorpions. one does not make friends with such animals and that is what you are and will become ask ajger or insaap if i am lying

[profrog]

if you feel that hindus and christians are better why don't you join them even there you will be hated

[profrog]

now you can start abusing by telling me that i have a lot of hatred and so on but let me assure you progs where you people are concerned yes we HATE you without a shadow of doubt to us you are like dogs snakes and scorpions, this is not to all other muslims but only to progs

[tahir]

What do you mean by "us" and whats your definition of 'progs'? Please don't abuse the people who are sitting on your either side in the masjid and who are sharing the same thaal with you in the jamatkhana.

[Al Zulfiqar]

frog and pig,

you guys have to understand one thing and one thing only.... let us take it one thing at a time, very slowly and easily for yr little immature, retarded brains to understand.

when u go to the masjid/markaz/jamatkhana, all the people u see around u, who are they?

most of them, atleast 75-80% are progressive and reformist in their thoughts. if u ask them about the great aqa maula, our shafiq bawa, our roohani rabb etc., of course they will say, ya ya, su shaan chhe etc. but then they will rush to this forum to write about the few stupid frogs and pigs in their midst!!!!!!!!!

have kai samajh ma aayu?

now in the next post will discuss this business of 'our masjid", "our jamaatkhana" etc. do not want to short-circuit yr pathetic, tiny brains with information overload! by that time lets hope that this above information will have had a chance to sink in....inshallah!

[profrog]

why do you come if you do not believe,if thats the case you are the worst hypocrates ever.you eat bohra food but abuse bohras

[profrog]

to the snake tahir i say that even if you are within us and with us in our masjids you think you are hiding from allah? he will catch you surely

[tahir]

Originally posted by profrog:
to the snake tahir i say that even if you are within us and with us in our masjids you think you are hiding from allah? he will catch you surely

Again! It is you who is being allowed in our masjid. Go figure.

[pro_pig]

progfrog,
these people r like kuta which its said dog tail cannot be straight so they cannot be change.what ever u do thats in their blood.nor allah can do any thing.

[tahir]

What do you mean by "these people"? Everyone other than you and profro?

[Al Zulfiqar]

ok, frog and pig and all the other abde-syedna's, now that the fact that most of bohras are reformists and progressives in their thoughts has maybe started to sink into your cess-pool brains, let us move on very gently to this misconception of yours about you being the true bohras and the reformists being non-bohras.

1. eating or cooking bohra food dos not in any any way confer divine status on anyone. if that was the case then most of the bhaiyyas from u.p. who cook our food for jamans should be shaikhs and mkd's! food is an expression of culture, it has nothing to do with religion.
2. attending a bohra masjid or jamaat also does not mean that we have to follow in spirit any crap that the syedna or his paid establishment outwardly force us to follow by threat of baraat. we consider ourselves the true bohras and you goons, - who have hijacked the bohra religious beliefs, as the moral and spiritual deviants. you are in the minority and we are in the majority.
3. your pathetic argument that 'if u dont like it, dont attend', holds no logic. on the contrary, now that u know that most bohras dont like whatever nonsense which is going on and refuse to confirm, then u shud stop attending and leave our masjids and jamaatkhanas and establish yr own little gulags and concentration camps where u can gas yr loving fanatic followers to death like hitler!
4. we are born bohras and wish to remain so, we are proud of our old and original bohra traditions, culture, food and values and hate to see it usurped by charlatans and goondas who are terrorising the community and perverting its traditions, values and customs.
5. the british ruled india by force and anyone who rebelled, was imprisoned, but even they could not deport them or say, "leave india if u do not like our rule!" atleast they had more respect for their own laws than your syedna and his morally corrupt establishment who have changed our old spiritual values and founding principles and beliefs to suit their own evil aims.
6. tahir has kept asking u this question about 'us' and 'they' since ages, but i hope now u understand. u are in the minority and shud at once leave our masjids and all other community properties built with our hard earned money. yr syedna does not contribute even one lousy paisa, but takes all the credit and then has the guts to tell us to leave???? hamari billi, aur hamse miao???!
6. under the rule of a few goondas who have expropriated the religion, (much in the same way, a few 1000 british officers kept millions of indians in line) more than 1.5 million bohras are meekly obeying, but that does not mean that they are with the zaalims in spirit. in fact more laanats are uttered towards yr corrupt and evil establishment everyday, than the reluctant ghanu jeevo's bohras are forced to sing in qawwali everyday!
7. even the most corrupt and tyrannical, political or religious dynasties have eventually crumbled under the weight of their own evils when the people could not take it anymore. like in the french revolution, the so-called 'royalty' were slaughtered most inhumanely. your syedna and his evil family and hired goons shud also note, the day we all rise in revolt en masse', that day people like u will bite the dust and if u are not around, then yr descendants will.

from now on, whenever u dare to tell us to leave, i will re-post this and slap u in the face with it everytime.

[jayanti]

prog pig,frog,gulf...all ture follower of aqa maula.
what a joke!sounds like sohley movie.hahahaha
keep yourself happy by posting these kind of post dose't change our mind.keep up frog,pig,gulf..

[tahir]

Originally posted by jayanti:
prog pig,frog,gulf...all ture follower of aqa maula.
what a joke!sounds like sohley movie.hahahaha
keep yourself happy by posting these kind of post dose't change our mind.keep up frog,pig,gulf..

Yes please never change your mind. We don't want you among real bohras. We'll be saved the cost of jamans that we are providing you in our jamatkhanas.

[Al Zulfiqar]

""these kind of post dose't change our mind""...??

do you have a mind...?????!!!!! knock on yr skulls and hear the hollow sound...

who cares about people like u? it is surely but slowly changing the minds of the vast majority of bohras and that's what matters. be very afraid of their silent obedience though, because when the anger builds up, even the meek cat attacks the lion.!

[jayanti]

among real bohra...........hahaha tahir u consider yourself bohra.

[preni1]

If what you say is true then why are there such few active members on this forum?

Curious?

Originally posted by Al Zulfiqar:
ok, frog and pig and all the other abde-syedna's, now that the fact that most of bohras are reformists and progressives in their thoughts has maybe started to sink into your cess-pool brains, let us move on very gently to this misconception of yours about you being the true bohras and the reformists being non-bohras.

1. eating or cooking bohra food dos not in any any way confer divine status on anyone. if that was the case then most of the bhaiyyas from u.p. who cook our food for jamans should be shaikhs and mkd's! food is an expression of culture, it has nothing to do with religion.
2. attending a bohra masjid or jamaat also does not mean that we have to follow in spirit any crap that the syedna or his paid establishment outwardly force us to follow by threat of baraat. we consider ourselves the true bohras and you goons, - who have hijacked the bohra religious beliefs, as the moral and spiritual deviants. you are in the minority and we are in the majority.
3. your pathetic argument that 'if u dont like it, dont attend', holds no logic. on the contrary, now that u know that most bohras dont like whatever nonsense which is going on and refuse to confirm, then u shud stop attending and leave our masjids and jamaatkhanas and establish yr own little gulags and concentration camps where u can gas yr loving fanatic followers to death like hitler!
4. we are born bohras and wish to remain so, we are proud of our old and original bohra traditions, culture, food and values and hate to see it usurped by charlatans and goondas who are terrorising the community and perverting its traditions, values and customs.
5. the british ruled india by force and anyone who rebelled, was imprisoned, but even they could not deport them or say, "leave india if u do not like our rule!" atleast they had more respect for their own laws than your syedna and his morally corrupt establishment who have changed our old spiritual values and founding principles and beliefs to suit their own evil aims.
6. tahir has kept asking u this question about 'us' and 'they' since ages, but i hope now u understand. u are in the minority and shud at once leave our masjids and all other community properties built with our hard earned money. yr syedna does not contribute even one lousy paisa, but takes all the credit and then has the guts to tell us to leave???? hamari billi, aur hamse miao???!
6. under the rule of a few goondas who have expropriated the religion, (much in the same way, a few 1000 british officers kept millions of indians in line) more than 1.5 million bohras are meekly obeying, but that does not mean that they are with the zaalims in spirit. in fact more laanats are uttered towards yr corrupt and evil establishment everyday, than the reluctant ghanu jeevo's bohras are forced to sing in qawwali everyday!
7. even the most corrupt and tyrannical, political or religious dynasties have eventually crumbled under the weight of their own evils when the people could not take it anymore. like in the french revolution, the so-called 'royalty' were slaughtered most inhumanely. your syedna and his evil family and hired goons shud also note, the day we all rise in revolt en masse', that day people like u will bite the dust and if u are not around, then yr descendants will.

from now on, whenever u dare to tell us to leave, i will re-post this and slap u in the face with it everytime.

[jayanti]

they kmow one thing to eat

[ponga bhori]

"If what you say is true then why are there such few active members on this forum?"

They are active working hard to make a halal living, very much unlike the khotaris who have nothing better to do after their haram ke kamai free loading on the bhoris hard earn moneys.

[tahir]

Originally posted by Lahori:
If what you say is true then why are there such few active members on this forum?

Curious?

Think of the Imam behind the curtain..we don't see him active but he is there..right?

[profrog]

if you are the majority as you say and we are so few then why harp about the millions we pay to our moula since we are so few where is the money coming from. don't tell me that progs are giving money to dawat,enough to justify the figures being quoted by insaaf.(millions). surely me and my fellow pro two of can not manage that amount