Why pig is haram?

[mumineen]

A very decent and simple commentary on Halaal & Haram through good scientific explanations:

Question: Tell me why is it that a Muslim is very particular about the words Halaal and Haraam; what do they mean?

Answer: That which is permissible is termed Halaal and that which is not permissible is termed Haraam and it is the Quran, which draws the distinction between the two.

Question: Can you give me an example?

Answer: Yes, Islam has prohibited! blood of any type You will agree that a chemical analysis of blood shows that it contains an abundance of uric acid, a chemical substance which can be injurious to human health.

Question/Comments: You're right about the toxic nature of uric acid, in the human being it is excreted as a waste product and in fact we are told that 98%of the body’s uric acid is extracted from the blood by the kidneys and removed through urination.

Answer: Now I think that you'll appreciate the special prescribed method of animal slaughter in Islam.

Question: What do you mean?

Answer: You see, the wielder of the knife, whilst taking the name of the Almighty', makes an incision through the jugular veins, leaving all other veins and organs intact.

Question/Comments: I see, this causes the death of the animal by a total loss of blood from the! body, rather than an injury to any vital organ.

Answer: Yes, were the organs, example the heart, the liver, or the brain crippled or damaged, the animal could die immediately and its blood would congeal in its veins and would eventually permeate the flesh This implies that the animal flesh would be permeated and contaminated with uric acid and therefore very poisonous; only today did our dietitians realize such a thing.

Question: Again, while on the topic of food; why do Muslims condemn the eating of pork or ham or any foods related to pigs or swine?

Answer: Actually, apart from the Quran prohibiting the consumption of Pork, bacon (pig flesh); in fact the Bible too in Leviticus chapter 11, Verse 8, regarding swine it says, "of their flesh (of the swine, another name for pig) shall you not eat, and of their carcass you shall not touch; they are unclean to you" Further, did you know that a pig cannot be slaughtered at the neck for it does not have a neck; that is according to Its natural anatomy A Muslim reasons that if the pig was to be slaughtered and fit for human consumption the Creator would have provided it with a neck Nonetheless, all that aside, I am sure you are well informed about the harmful effects of the consumption of pork, in any form, be it pork Chops, ham, bacon.

Question/Comments: The medical science finds that there is a risk for various diseases The pig is found to be a host for many parasites and potential diseases.

Answer: Yes, even apart from that, as we talked about uric acid content in the blood, it is important to note that the pig's biochemistry excretes only 2% of its total uric acid content, the remaining 98% remains as an integral part of the body.

source: Aawaz-e-dost

[Average Bohra]

Pig was haram at the time since it predated the advent of freezers, refrigerators, super markets, hygeine, and the FDA.

Ignorance was rampant, and they expected future generations to make changes as relevant to the times, just as they did..

Have you ?

[anajmi]

It's a good thing we haven't otherwise we would be following you into the fires of hell!!

Here is an example of your FDA's agenda.

""Dr. Michael Friedman, acting Commissioner of the FDA, defended Monsanto on 60 Minutes. Yet, it was the FDA themselves who refused to approve aspartame for sixteen years because of the brain tumor issue. Their own toxicologist, the late Dr. Adrian Gross, had told Congress that aspartame—because it triggers brain tumors—violates the Delaney Amendment that makes it illegal to allow any residues of cancer-causing chemicals in foods. In concluding testimony Gross asked, "Given the [cancer-causing potential of aspartame] how would the FDA justify its position that it views a certain amount of aspartame as constituting an allowable daily intake or 'safe' level of it? Is that position in effect not equivalent to setting a 'tolerance' for this food additive and thus a violation of that law? And if the FDA itself elects to violate the law, who is left to protect the health of the public?" [16]""

for the whole article go to http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/article/id992/pg3/

[anajmi]

In short, only the average folks go by refrigerators and the FDA. THe above average ones follow the directions of the almighty.

[Average Bohra]

So if you guys knew of Mad Cow when you wrote this crap about pigs, then you would be going to hell right about now ....{?}

[anajmi]

that is the problem with a person who is average. He cannot put two and two together and come up with four!!

The quran does not say that I have to eat a cow even if it is mad. I can have any of that which is halaal and none of that which is haraam. I wish you were above average, you would've understood.

[anajmi]

And since you are average I'll let you in on another trivia, mad cow disease is a man-made disease. Happens because dead cows are being fed to the living ones by the people who control the refrigerators, super markets and the FDA!!

[hur]

Originally posted by Average Bohra:
Pig was haram at the time since it predated the advent of freezers, refrigerators, super markets, hygeine, and the FDA.

Ignorance was rampant, and they expected future generations to make changes as relevant to the times, just as they did..

Have you ?

--Actually your comment has nothing to do with why pig were and are still haram. Before refrigerators...meat was salted and dried to preserve it. This can be done with pigs as well. Pigs are haram because of what they are...scavengers. They eat garbage and fecal matter (even their own). If you are from Asia you know the pigs and boars are used to clean the curb drainage/sewage aquaducts. This is same reason we don't eat cat fish (they have scales but are scavengers).

Alot of people who eat pigs say, as a rebuttal, why do you eat goat..they eat garbage. Actually no they don't. If they have the choice they eat grass. They also don't eat waste product.

To add to the first post...the Torah dates from 3000 yrs before the Quran. That a pretty long time for ignorance to change...you think God didn't forsee the advent of the refrigerator?

[mumineen]

Now that the cattle farmers are feeding the cows with the by-products of its won flesh, doesn't the cow meat (fed on with mixed with flesh products) now become haraam? One of the the rationale for halaal meat is animals or sea-food which do not feed on any flesh/meat products - only vegetation or related products.

Can some Aalim shed some light on this please?

[Khairan]

Originally posted by Average Bohra:
So if you guys knew of Mad Cow when you wrote this crap about pigs, then you would be going to hell right about now ....{?}

If cows were raised and kept in an halaal fashion, Mad Cow disease would never have occurred.

[nausicaa]

Pigs get trichinosis, but only if they're kept improperly. Getting infested with trichina worms will make you unhappy for part of the year.

The kosher and halal meat animals get anthrax, but pigs don't. Anthrax will kill you. And it's in the soil all over the planet, and all the animal has to do to get it is graze.

I don't see where all these magical benefits from eating haalal animals come.

-N

[Average Bohra]

After all, this same crowd douses itself with Attar in lieu of a bath, drinks bad water (Africa, Asia, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh...), eats Ghee laden meals (cholesterol, high-blood-pressure, heart attack), white-rice (high carbs), and then brags about how the Quran has forseen the world's health problems by prohibting Pork (Europe and America and much higher life expectancies than ANY Muslim country).....you go figure.....

[anajmi]

That is true below average, but only because the europeans and americans keep bombing the muslim nations and keep them infected with radiation from depleted uranium!!

For a muslim eating pork is haraam because the quran says so and I don't give a flying f..k if it is the best and the most healthy meat on earth!!

[anajmi]

Another piece of trivai for you below average folks.

America is the fattest nation of earth - probably because of the healthy pork!

Americans spend more money on medicine than the rest of the world put together - probably because of the healthy pork

America is probably the only nation where people die because of excessive food and not the lack thereof.

And from my own experience, I used to eat all those ghee laden, rich in oil and spices food in India and never had health problems in 27 years and I come to america and have gained 50 pounds in 6 years and sometime suffer from heartburn.

[Muslim]

I think the low life expectancy in developing countries is more due to the change in lifestyle (less physical activity than before) than the type of food. Of course, now that the lifestyles have changed, they must change their diet too. Similarly, the higher life expectancy in developed countries is more due to better medical facilities than the type of food.

Which is why many countries in Africa, Asia and South America which don't have a mainly Muslim population and don't eat ghee-laden food have the same low life expectancy. And which is why an African man, whether Christian, Muslim or atheist, whose staple diet consists of kidney beans and maize meal would be still be lucky to live till 50.

By the way, the Bible had forbidden pork thousands of years before the Quran was revealed.

[Average Bohra]

europeans and americans keep bombing the muslim nations and keep them infected with radiation from depleted uranium!!

Didn't the Quran predict this ? If so, what solution does it offer besides not eating Pork ?

Americans spend more money on medicine than the rest of the world put together

You get what you pay for....that's why your Arab masters land their asses in the US for treatment

I come to america and have gained 50 pounds in 6 years and sometime suffer from heartburn.

That generally occurs from eating your own words

Go home !

low life expectancy in developing countries is more due to the change in lifestyle (less physical activity than before)

Did Quran predict this change in lifestyle ? If so, what did it recommend as a solution ?

higher life expectancy in developed countries is more due to better medical facilities

Surely the Quran speaks volumes about the importance of better medical facilities, no ?

Bible had forbidden pork thousands of years before the Quran was revealed

Now you tell me !

[anajmi]

Below Average,

I will go home as soon as all the americans return home. And I do not eat my own words. I have been eating "average" shit the last couple of weeks.

The quranic solution is the coming of Jesus Christ. Of course you need to remember, you are below average so you won't get this one!!

"You get what you pay for....that's why your Arab masters land their asses in the US for treatment"
And why shouldn't they? They still have enough money to get the best treatment, before the americans steal it all.

Everyone understands the importance of better medical facilities. But the fact that 2 and 2 is always 4 is again something an average person does not understand. The quran asks the rich to give to the poor, unlike the americans which want to steal from the poor.

And low life expectancy in the developing countries is also because of the developed countries. The quranic solution has been mentioned above. But the problem has also been mentioned.

[NEW BHORA]

HAPPY BHORA DAY!!!! BHORA MUBARAK Guys and Gals

Just wanted to keep in tounch wth you bhoras, now that im part of teh community.

[Average Bohra]

Anajmi,

I do feel sorry for you. It must be horrible living in a country you despise, that goes against the Quran, a country that makes you fat (60 lbs) by forcing you to eat cheap fast food, that heals you due to its superior medical technology, steals your money (by giving it to your Arab Masters in exchange for oil, who in exchange steal your money), that follows the "give to the poor" routine by donating more money to Islamic countires than the rich Arab countries combined, eats Pork without getting sick ?

Must be really difficult being an angry Wahabi these days...your revered master hiding in a cave,and you are driven to hyprocrisy by being forced to work here in pursuit of the Almighty dollar....I will try to understand your desperation better, having to compromise your soul for money. I couldn't do it, but then again I am financially secure.

I am sure the Quran has also predicted that anger-induced stress leads to health problem, sometimes adding as much as 60lbs. to ones' weight.

Take a deep breath and smell the roses instead of Wahabi gun powder....you had your chance in Afghanistan to prove what Wahabism could deliver...need I say more ?

....sad state of affairs indeed.....

[anajmi]

Below Average

See this is the problem with people like you who are weak in Imaan and weak in morals. I though you would've understood that even though I am here in America earning the Almighty-loosing-its-value-every-day dollay, I haven't sold my soul to it like you have. The reason is because you are average.

I am financially secure with the grace of Allah, in money, in Imaan and in the hereafter inshaallah. You on the other hand are fucked here and there both. As they say in India "Dhobi ka kutta na ghar ka na ghat ka" No point in translating if you haven't understood already cause you won't!!

And surprise surprise the quran does recommend one to be patient and that would mean that one shouldn't get angry or else it may lead to problems - health or otherwise. But morons like you cause so much distress that I am destined to gain more weight.

And afghanistan was messed up not by wahabis but by your white masters, a simple case in point is the poppy production. Now being below average you may not understand that. But that is not your fault, that is how the almighty has decided to treat you. I pity you!!

[Average Bohra]

tsk...tsk...all this anger, people to blame, high in imaan, high in morals, and nothing to show for it...not one Islamic country, not one city, has created your Utopia...I feel your pain....

BTW: Financially secure would mean that you can afford to live in a country you love...not be forced to earn a living in a country you despise. Hyprocrisy ????

[trance]

why is fish haram , ? unless performing a personal zabiyat ?

[Muslim First]

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Which sea food is Halal?
http://www.islamhelpline.com/view_answers.asp?QAID=4596

Sea Food :Lobster and crab
http://www.islamhelpline.com/view_answers.asp?QAID=3818

Are Sharks halaal?
http://www.islamhelpline.com/view_answers.asp?QAID=3472

Are frogs halaal?
http://www.islamhelpline.com/view_answers.asp?QAID=3216

How do you classify the Believers and Sea food Halaal or Haraam?
http://www.islamhelpline.com/view_answers.asp?QAID=1166

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[tahir]

A Muslim reasons that if the pig was to be slaughtered and fit for human consumption the Creator would have provided it with a neck

height of teleology!!

[Al-Muizz]

Anajmi:

Here, I have to disagree with you. Afghanistan was not messed up because of the poppy production. Afghanistan was messed up with petty rivalry, petty politicking, and constant bickering over power. Being disunited, Afghanis' get conquered, and reconquered. In a sence, they are lost souls' who are doomed for this vicious cycle, until their immense greed for power stops--which does not look possible. Every Afghani faction allied themselves to whomever armed them and made the powerful....the Russians, then the Talibans, now an extension of them, Al-Qaeda-who are the most vicious most corrupt and morally screwed up people, second only to the Wahabis!

[tahir]

In a sence, they are lost souls' who are doomed for this vicious cycle, until their immense greed for power stops--which does not look possible

this could well be said for the money grubbing mulla burhanuddin and his parasitic offsprings...and folks,dont get deluded by the immense control they have on the bohri flock at present...the despot reaches the peak of his glory just before the fall.

[Al-Muizz]

Tahir:

I really don't get what your stance is. I mean, do you really think (I guess after an opium high) that the Wahabis' are actually right in their interpretation of Islam?

A family that pretends to be the Custodians of the two Holy Mosques, with a family morally and spiritually corrupt?

A teaching so poisonous that it can actually convince people to go kill themselves, and then call them martyrs?

A society that actually pushed human rights backwards, way past even Isa Nabi's time?

Is that progressive to you, my friend?

[tahir]

Dear Al,
Which of my posts gave you an idea that I am praising wahabis?? OR have you taken a leaf out of Dubya's book and have started thinking like " If you are not with Bohris you are with Wahabis"!!

[Al-Muizz]

Salaams, Tahir:

Then what exactly is your beef with the Bohras? That we are Shia? That we mourn Al-Husayn A.S.? That we believe in the Imams/Dai?

Calling names isn't going to get the issues resolved. Of course, any religious organization has logistics issues. Herein lies the problem. How can we address these issues, without mixing the daily running of the religious organization, and the message that the organization is espousing. So, let's separate these two issues. If you do not believe in the religious views of the Bohras, then of course you are free to debate on it adnauseum....just that it ain't gonna make a difference in those who believe.

As to the corruption in the system...well, it is not going to improve if we all sit here and type a few words that noone who has the power to do something about will read!

[tahir]

AM,

As to the corruption in the system...well, it is not going to improve if we all sit here and type a few words that noone who has the power to do something about will read!

now since you have acknowledged the "corruption" (a very moderate term this is for what actually is going on), how do you think it should be dealt with?