1. There is a brand new demand, now by the Toronto, Ontaio Jamaat.
http://www.torontojamat.ca/Ntorontojamat/
Kaffarat
Once again, this year Burhani Women's Assocoation will collect Kaffarat in the amout of $3.85 for each roza missed.
When submitting your kaffarat rakam, it is important to attach the name(s) of person(s) offering kaffarat and the number of rozas missed.
Please contact:
Fatema Master 905-737-4414 or Alifia Behn Adamjee 905-887-1849 or Shirin Behn Adamjee 416-755-9998 for Anjuman e Burhani and
Fatema Behn Bhujwala 905-567-6392 and Farida Behn Al Harazi 905-813-9563 for Anjuman e Fakhri.
Even before the Holy Month of Ramadhan has NOT even commenced, the Jamaat is already motivating members to miss the fast and instead PAY, PAY, PAY.
2. The Aamil, Zakavi BS is also, among other things, reminding, by way of a questionnaire Questions 45,46,47), the members of Toronto and Mississauga Jamaat to pay during the month of Ramadhan, Sila Fitra-Vaajebaat:
Zakaatul Maas
Khumus
Nazrul-Makaam
Najwa-tus-shukur
For Bohris, the month of Ramadhan is Waajebaat Ibadat -
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RE:haqiqi kaaba
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RE:haqiqi kaaba
Why go to Kaaba when you have your Haqiqi Kaaba.After all the nawaazishaat which Aqa Moula (TUS) had bestowed upon us in less than 48 hours, Moulana (TUS) wanted to grant us the laakho sawaab of praying imaamat namaaz behind haqiqi kaaba.
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Brother MF
Dawoodi bohras are one who believe in dawat e hadiya, As you are a practicing sunni, it would be better if one leaves alone other's religion.
Whatever, and however syedna does, or whatever or whenever is said about him, just concern ones, who are his followers. As you dont believe in him, so leave him alone with his followers.
You always refer to quran for refrences: I would suggest you to go through sura kaafiroon again.
Dawoodi bohras are one who believe in dawat e hadiya, As you are a practicing sunni, it would be better if one leaves alone other's religion.
Whatever, and however syedna does, or whatever or whenever is said about him, just concern ones, who are his followers. As you dont believe in him, so leave him alone with his followers.
You always refer to quran for refrences: I would suggest you to go through sura kaafiroon again.
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accty,
The bohras are not following a different religion. They are following the same religion hijacked by corrupt leaders.
I would suggest that you read the rest of the quran too and this time, please do not go to sleep while reading it.
The bohras are not following a different religion. They are following the same religion hijacked by corrupt leaders.
I would suggest that you read the rest of the quran too and this time, please do not go to sleep while reading it.
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.Br. AC
AS
I would love to go over Sura Kafirun with you. (I have gone over it many times but one more time will not be a bad idea).
Let us have your version, then I will give you what sura really means.
Wasalaam
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AS
I would love to go over Sura Kafirun with you. (I have gone over it many times but one more time will not be a bad idea).
Let us have your version, then I will give you what sura really means.
Wasalaam
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Since when did "Muslim First" become the Quran's authentic interpreter?, when he/she says:
"Let us have your version, then I will give you what sura really means."
One would have thought that this self-imposed honour/title only belongs to the the Haqiqi Quran, the Kothari Bohris' HH.
"Let us have your version, then I will give you what sura really means."
One would have thought that this self-imposed honour/title only belongs to the the Haqiqi Quran, the Kothari Bohris' HH.
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Br. Mumineen
AS
Let me have your version. Pl. tell me, to whom this sura is addressed? Who in your interpretation Kafiruns are?
109-6: To me is my religion and to you is your religin.
I understand it as follows:
To me (muslim) is my religion(Islam) and to you (non-Muslim) is your religion (Whatever it is).
When somebody points out innovation in Islam, innovators fall back to Kafirun-6 to justify their innovation.
Wasalaam
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AS
Let me have your version. Pl. tell me, to whom this sura is addressed? Who in your interpretation Kafiruns are?
109-6: To me is my religion and to you is your religin.
I understand it as follows:
To me (muslim) is my religion(Islam) and to you (non-Muslim) is your religion (Whatever it is).
When somebody points out innovation in Islam, innovators fall back to Kafirun-6 to justify their innovation.
Wasalaam
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Br. Mumineen
AS
Let me have your version. Pl. tell me, to whom this sura is addressed? Who in your interpretation Kafiruns are?
109-6: To me is my religion and to you is your religin.
I understand it as follows:
To me (muslim) is my religion(Islam) and to you (non-Muslim) is your religion (Whatever it is).
When somebody points out innovation in Islam, innovators fall back to Kafirun-6 to justify their innovation.
Wasalaam
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AS
Let me have your version. Pl. tell me, to whom this sura is addressed? Who in your interpretation Kafiruns are?
109-6: To me is my religion and to you is your religin.
I understand it as follows:
To me (muslim) is my religion(Islam) and to you (non-Muslim) is your religion (Whatever it is).
When somebody points out innovation in Islam, innovators fall back to Kafirun-6 to justify their innovation.
Wasalaam
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brother MF
why did you put your innovations in bracket while translating.
How did you know, what allah meant by saying, what he said. How did you come by those bracketed innovations.
why did you put your innovations in bracket while translating.
How did you know, what allah meant by saying, what he said. How did you come by those bracketed innovations.
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Anajmi, I still read Yasin, before going to bed.
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accty,
This is how the surah begins -
Say : O ye that reject Faith!
Allah is asking prophet Muhammed to speak to the disbelievers - kafiroon.
So when we come to the last ayah - Allah is asking the prophet Muhammed to say to kafiroon - To me is my religion and to you is your religion.
Now who is "me"? The prophet Muhammed - who is he, a muslim. What is the prophet's religion? Islam
What is the religion of the Kafir? - whatever it is.
So you see - there was no innovation in the interpretation of brother Muslim First. You however are a prime example of an innovator - no need for roza, no need for namaz, no need for hajj and zakat.
Next time you read Yasin, try to understand it.
That is because brother Muslim First has understood that entire surah and not just one ayah of the surah.brother MF
why did you put your innovations in bracket while translating.
How did you know, what allah meant by saying, what he said. How did you come by those bracketed innovations.
This is how the surah begins -
Say : O ye that reject Faith!
Allah is asking prophet Muhammed to speak to the disbelievers - kafiroon.
So when we come to the last ayah - Allah is asking the prophet Muhammed to say to kafiroon - To me is my religion and to you is your religion.
Now who is "me"? The prophet Muhammed - who is he, a muslim. What is the prophet's religion? Islam
What is the religion of the Kafir? - whatever it is.
So you see - there was no innovation in the interpretation of brother Muslim First. You however are a prime example of an innovator - no need for roza, no need for namaz, no need for hajj and zakat.
Next time you read Yasin, try to understand it.
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Fellow Mumeenins,
This year Kothari madness towards money has crossed all the limits. In jiafats by towns and cities they have collected huge amounts average Rs. 50 lacks a day!!
In Vajebat this time Amils are canvassing to pay three to four times more then paid last year.
Some says that the kothar has purchased a huge property in Australia and that is the reason they are pressing bohras to pay more.
Now if this is correct the vajebat is colleted not for poor but to build personal wealth of kotharies.
From our city about 3 crores are collected and at the end about five or seven lacks are sent by kothar as muasat to disburse among needies. Most of this is not reaching to the people who are really in need. It is given to the relatives and friend of the jamat members.
All bohras have experienced this but they pay the vajebats under threat of barat and increase the amount every year.
Since last three years we a group of ten like minded mumenins in our city has found a solution to this and instead of increasing the amount we remains firm on the figure of last year when we go for vajebat. Even some of us has reduced the amount to the last year vajebat.
We all ten members get together and help poor throughout the year by collecting funds among us.
Since we have not given any name to our organisation we do not have any fear of barat. They know about our activity but can not take any action against us. Even who comes for help to us we first direct them to go to Amil and ask for help. We know they will never help mumenins. This is just to realise them that they are not fulfilling their duties.
Earlier we were complaining about amils and kothars but now we are convinces that they are becoming powerful day by day and that too with our money. Instead of complaining we have invested our time and energy in the fruitful way and instead of making kotharies richer and powerful we are spending our money in a better way.
We request all of you to adopt the way we are going. Initially we were only two and now ten. We hope it will increase day by day.
Yours in fighting injustice
This year Kothari madness towards money has crossed all the limits. In jiafats by towns and cities they have collected huge amounts average Rs. 50 lacks a day!!
In Vajebat this time Amils are canvassing to pay three to four times more then paid last year.
Some says that the kothar has purchased a huge property in Australia and that is the reason they are pressing bohras to pay more.
Now if this is correct the vajebat is colleted not for poor but to build personal wealth of kotharies.
From our city about 3 crores are collected and at the end about five or seven lacks are sent by kothar as muasat to disburse among needies. Most of this is not reaching to the people who are really in need. It is given to the relatives and friend of the jamat members.
All bohras have experienced this but they pay the vajebats under threat of barat and increase the amount every year.
Since last three years we a group of ten like minded mumenins in our city has found a solution to this and instead of increasing the amount we remains firm on the figure of last year when we go for vajebat. Even some of us has reduced the amount to the last year vajebat.
We all ten members get together and help poor throughout the year by collecting funds among us.
Since we have not given any name to our organisation we do not have any fear of barat. They know about our activity but can not take any action against us. Even who comes for help to us we first direct them to go to Amil and ask for help. We know they will never help mumenins. This is just to realise them that they are not fulfilling their duties.
Earlier we were complaining about amils and kothars but now we are convinces that they are becoming powerful day by day and that too with our money. Instead of complaining we have invested our time and energy in the fruitful way and instead of making kotharies richer and powerful we are spending our money in a better way.
We request all of you to adopt the way we are going. Initially we were only two and now ten. We hope it will increase day by day.
Yours in fighting injustice
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Re: For Bohris, the month of Ramadhan is Waajebaat Ibadat -
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Br.AC
AS
It appears you have problem understanding written words.
Let me re post what I said with little highlighting.
This is what I wrote:
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109-6: To me is my religion and to you is your religin.
I understand it as follows:
To me (muslim) is my religion(Islam) and to you (non-Muslim) is your religion (Whatever it is).
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After studying numerous translations and tafseers it became clear to me that 109-6 means:
To us Muslims (Believers in Allah, in His oneness, in His angels, in His books, in His Prophets, in the day of Resurrection and in Al-Qadar. And also belief in Muhammad being the last prophet and in his teachings) is our religion (Known as Islam) and to non-believers is whatever is their religion.
I would hope this is clear to you.
Be. Anajmi, AS.
Thanks for your explanation
I wish happy and spiritually profitable Ramadan to all of brothers.
Wasalaam
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Br.AC
AS
It appears you have problem understanding written words.
Let me re post what I said with little highlighting.
This is what I wrote:
________
109-6: To me is my religion and to you is your religin.
I understand it as follows:
To me (muslim) is my religion(Islam) and to you (non-Muslim) is your religion (Whatever it is).
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After studying numerous translations and tafseers it became clear to me that 109-6 means:
To us Muslims (Believers in Allah, in His oneness, in His angels, in His books, in His Prophets, in the day of Resurrection and in Al-Qadar. And also belief in Muhammad being the last prophet and in his teachings) is our religion (Known as Islam) and to non-believers is whatever is their religion.
I would hope this is clear to you.
Be. Anajmi, AS.
Thanks for your explanation
I wish happy and spiritually profitable Ramadan to all of brothers.
Wasalaam
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Re: For Bohris, the month of Ramadhan is Waajebaat Ibadat -
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Br. AC
AS
Could you give Bohra version of Sura Al-Kafirun?
May be you can go to Aalim and get a sabak on it.
Can anybody post Baatini meaning of the Sura?
Vasalaam
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Br. AC
AS
Could you give Bohra version of Sura Al-Kafirun?
May be you can go to Aalim and get a sabak on it.
Can anybody post Baatini meaning of the Sura?
Vasalaam
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practical: very good deed. Yes you are right. we should all fight for justice, while remaining in the fold. What you guys are doing is very noble thing. actually this wajebat has no place in our religion. it is the innovation, that is brought in to fleece ordinay people and make one family rich, and to pay for their onstentatious life style.
I would certanily like to be the part of the group. If you think it appropriate, just list the name of city, so if anyone wants, they can be a part.
I would certanily like to be the part of the group. If you think it appropriate, just list the name of city, so if anyone wants, they can be a part.
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Practical,
I wish you all the best in your initiative to counter infinite greed and corruption (euphemised as "following one's version"). You'll have to watch out for the insinuations and sabotage attempts from apologists like Pro Frog, Pro Pig, Average Bohra, Shabir etc.
The goal post of justice is shifted further behind when more people seek their jollies in cheerleading for the tyrant.
I wish you all the best in your initiative to counter infinite greed and corruption (euphemised as "following one's version"). You'll have to watch out for the insinuations and sabotage attempts from apologists like Pro Frog, Pro Pig, Average Bohra, Shabir etc.
The goal post of justice is shifted further behind when more people seek their jollies in cheerleading for the tyrant.
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Tahir
Those names you mentioned Pro Animal Kingdom are working hard to make money so they give all the WAJEBAATS to recieve Aamil' barakat and make him happy so they all can live ROZO TA QYAMMAT.
ONE MORE THING THEY STILL WILL NOT REVEAL HOW MUCH WAJEBAATS THEY PAY
Those names you mentioned Pro Animal Kingdom are working hard to make money so they give all the WAJEBAATS to recieve Aamil' barakat and make him happy so they all can live ROZO TA QYAMMAT.
ONE MORE THING THEY STILL WILL NOT REVEAL HOW MUCH WAJEBAATS THEY PAY
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whats the point revealing how much they pay..these aamils are earning something like us5000-us10000 a month will everything provided,even if the pay us5000 wajebat they wont fell hurt..
how can u be poor if u havent been poor?
how can u be poor if u havent been poor?
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Dear accountability,
Thanks for your generous offer but It is not possible for us to list the name of the city. We wish that what we are doing is spread all over the world where bohra lives.
Dear Tahir,
Yes your right the sabotage attempts are made but with the help of god we are surviving and wish this will be carried over by generations.
Thanks for your generous offer but It is not possible for us to list the name of the city. We wish that what we are doing is spread all over the world where bohra lives.
Dear Tahir,
Yes your right the sabotage attempts are made but with the help of god we are surviving and wish this will be carried over by generations.
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here is the latest from San antonio--
">>Subject: [sanantoniomumineen] Correction
>>Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 19:58:19 -0500
>>
>>Dear Mumineen,
>>
>>Please disregard the circular sent by Bhai Yusuf bhai Arif. The content
>>writen in the circular is neither Jamat's decision nor mine. Further
>>clarification will be sent. In future information regarding all Jamat
>>matters will be sent by me.
>>
>>Request for dua.
>>Abdesyedna TUS
>>Nooruddin Yamani
>>
>>
>> >From: "Usuf Arif" <usufarif100@yahoo.com>
>> >Reply-To: sanantoniomumineen@yahoogroups.com
>> >To: <sanantoniomumineen@yahoogroups.com>
>> >CC: "'Yamanni'" <nyamani52@yahoo.com>
>> >Subject: [sanantoniomumineen] Our Future!
>> >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:03:34 -0500
>> >
>> >Bad as Salaam!
>> >
>> >All,
>> >
>> >Bowing to the financial pressure on account of the non-payment of Sabeel
>> >(or
>> >withholding Jamaat Dues) from 2002 till date by the majority of the
>> >members,
>> >Anjuman e Mohammadi-San Antonio Inc. is facing existential crisis.
>> >
>> >Per my meeting with Janab Amil Sahab, (President, Anjuman e Mohammadi)
>>on
>> >Saturday Sept 16 2006 in Houston and based on the consensus with Mulla
>> >Hunaid Bhai Doctor (Treasurer, Anjuman e Mohammadi), and the opinions of
>> >brothers Dr. Mulla Moiz Bhai and Mulla Zohair Bhai Sahab dated Aug 26th
>> >2006, and in the light of the instructions given by Shehzada Ali waqaar
>> >Malik ul Ashtar Bhai Sahab Shujau'ddin Sahab DM, following decisions are
>> >taken and are binding on all with immediate effect.
>> >
>> >* Non Sabeel Payee members or members who have paid Sabeel only
>> >partially from 2002-till date are no longer allowed in the premises of
>> >Anjuman e Mohammadi.
>> >
>> >* From now on, such members are not welcome or invited in any of the
>> >Jamaat's activities, functions or gatherings including Namaaz.
>> >
>> >* Jamaat will not inform such members of any future Jamaat activities.
>> >
>> >* Unless your Sabeel or Jamaat Dues are paid in full from the year
>> >2002-till date, no further communication is possible with any Jamaat
>> >authorities.
>> >
>> >* Jamaat authorities will use police force and take all security
>> >measures at our disposal, to keep such members at bay. A copy of this
>> >document is on file with the San Antonio Police Department.
>> >
>> >* People with any disregard, disagreement, or disapproval with the
>> >Jamaat policies such as Jamaat's financial matters, Sabeel amount, Amil
>> >Sahab's appointment, Najwa amount, wazeefa, Salaam amount, Dress code,
>>our
>> >customs, masjid construction or year round proceedings of the Anjuman e
>> >Mohammadi are advised to seek alternatives and leave Anjuman e Mohammadi
>>at
>> >her fate.
>> >
>> >* Anjuman e Mohammadi executives and the board of directors reserve
>> >full rights and authority to decide Sabeel amount (Jamaat Dues) and
>> >collectively take punitive action on account of anyone's non-payment of
>> >Jamaat funds.
>> >
>> >* Failure to comply with these drastic measures will result in
>> >dissolving the San Antonio Jamaat.
>> >
>> >* Shehzada Ali waqaar Malik ul Ashatar Bhai Sahab Shujau'ddin Sahab DM
>> >has given full authority to Janab Amil Sahab to take whatever action
>>Amil
>> >Sahab deems fit for the future of the Jamaat. This includes: give up
>>the
>> >possession of the current markaz; sell the masjid land; and advise
>>people
>> >to
>> >move to other places in pursuit of their faith, should the financial
>> >pressure worsen the crisis to that extent.
>> >
>> >* Amil Sahab has conveyed that no one is kicked out of "Deen". Members
>> >not willing to comply with their financial dues are free to go join
>>other
>> >Jamaats if they are welcome there, but we have taken measures to
>>safeguard
>> >smooth functioning of the Jamaat in a healthy, constructive environment.
>> >
>> >* Co existence in a social environment is a team effort. Financia
>> >physical or mental exploitation of a selected few by the rest of the
>> >members
>> >can only derail overall progress. Janab Amil Sahab, Mulla Hunaid Bhai
>> >Doctor, my humble self and other board of directors are no longer
>>willing
>> >to
>> >carry the burden of this exploitation solely on our shoulders.
>> >
>> >was-Salaam,
>> >
>> >abde SYEDNA TUS
>> >
>> >Usuf Arif,
>> >Secretary, Anjuman e Mohammaid, San Antonio Inc
">>Subject: [sanantoniomumineen] Correction
>>Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 19:58:19 -0500
>>
>>Dear Mumineen,
>>
>>Please disregard the circular sent by Bhai Yusuf bhai Arif. The content
>>writen in the circular is neither Jamat's decision nor mine. Further
>>clarification will be sent. In future information regarding all Jamat
>>matters will be sent by me.
>>
>>Request for dua.
>>Abdesyedna TUS
>>Nooruddin Yamani
>>
>>
>> >From: "Usuf Arif" <usufarif100@yahoo.com>
>> >Reply-To: sanantoniomumineen@yahoogroups.com
>> >To: <sanantoniomumineen@yahoogroups.com>
>> >CC: "'Yamanni'" <nyamani52@yahoo.com>
>> >Subject: [sanantoniomumineen] Our Future!
>> >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:03:34 -0500
>> >
>> >Bad as Salaam!
>> >
>> >All,
>> >
>> >Bowing to the financial pressure on account of the non-payment of Sabeel
>> >(or
>> >withholding Jamaat Dues) from 2002 till date by the majority of the
>> >members,
>> >Anjuman e Mohammadi-San Antonio Inc. is facing existential crisis.
>> >
>> >Per my meeting with Janab Amil Sahab, (President, Anjuman e Mohammadi)
>>on
>> >Saturday Sept 16 2006 in Houston and based on the consensus with Mulla
>> >Hunaid Bhai Doctor (Treasurer, Anjuman e Mohammadi), and the opinions of
>> >brothers Dr. Mulla Moiz Bhai and Mulla Zohair Bhai Sahab dated Aug 26th
>> >2006, and in the light of the instructions given by Shehzada Ali waqaar
>> >Malik ul Ashtar Bhai Sahab Shujau'ddin Sahab DM, following decisions are
>> >taken and are binding on all with immediate effect.
>> >
>> >* Non Sabeel Payee members or members who have paid Sabeel only
>> >partially from 2002-till date are no longer allowed in the premises of
>> >Anjuman e Mohammadi.
>> >
>> >* From now on, such members are not welcome or invited in any of the
>> >Jamaat's activities, functions or gatherings including Namaaz.
>> >
>> >* Jamaat will not inform such members of any future Jamaat activities.
>> >
>> >* Unless your Sabeel or Jamaat Dues are paid in full from the year
>> >2002-till date, no further communication is possible with any Jamaat
>> >authorities.
>> >
>> >* Jamaat authorities will use police force and take all security
>> >measures at our disposal, to keep such members at bay. A copy of this
>> >document is on file with the San Antonio Police Department.
>> >
>> >* People with any disregard, disagreement, or disapproval with the
>> >Jamaat policies such as Jamaat's financial matters, Sabeel amount, Amil
>> >Sahab's appointment, Najwa amount, wazeefa, Salaam amount, Dress code,
>>our
>> >customs, masjid construction or year round proceedings of the Anjuman e
>> >Mohammadi are advised to seek alternatives and leave Anjuman e Mohammadi
>>at
>> >her fate.
>> >
>> >* Anjuman e Mohammadi executives and the board of directors reserve
>> >full rights and authority to decide Sabeel amount (Jamaat Dues) and
>> >collectively take punitive action on account of anyone's non-payment of
>> >Jamaat funds.
>> >
>> >* Failure to comply with these drastic measures will result in
>> >dissolving the San Antonio Jamaat.
>> >
>> >* Shehzada Ali waqaar Malik ul Ashatar Bhai Sahab Shujau'ddin Sahab DM
>> >has given full authority to Janab Amil Sahab to take whatever action
>>Amil
>> >Sahab deems fit for the future of the Jamaat. This includes: give up
>>the
>> >possession of the current markaz; sell the masjid land; and advise
>>people
>> >to
>> >move to other places in pursuit of their faith, should the financial
>> >pressure worsen the crisis to that extent.
>> >
>> >* Amil Sahab has conveyed that no one is kicked out of "Deen". Members
>> >not willing to comply with their financial dues are free to go join
>>other
>> >Jamaats if they are welcome there, but we have taken measures to
>>safeguard
>> >smooth functioning of the Jamaat in a healthy, constructive environment.
>> >
>> >* Co existence in a social environment is a team effort. Financia
>> >physical or mental exploitation of a selected few by the rest of the
>> >members
>> >can only derail overall progress. Janab Amil Sahab, Mulla Hunaid Bhai
>> >Doctor, my humble self and other board of directors are no longer
>>willing
>> >to
>> >carry the burden of this exploitation solely on our shoulders.
>> >
>> >was-Salaam,
>> >
>> >abde SYEDNA TUS
>> >
>> >Usuf Arif,
>> >Secretary, Anjuman e Mohammaid, San Antonio Inc
Re: For Bohris, the month of Ramadhan is Waajebaat Ibadat -
"People with any disregard, disagreement, or disapproval with the Jamaat policies such as Jamaat's financial matters, Sabeel amount, Amil
Sahab's appointment, Najwa amount, wazeefa, Salaam amount, Dress code,
our customs, masjid construction or year round proceedings of the Anjuman e Mohammadi are advised to seek alternatives and leave Anjuman e Mohammadi"
I thought that you lot lived in the worlds highest democracy.Have you forgotten you are living in USA?
Of course, those who are members HAVE to pay for the services, but why dont they have a say in day to day running and election of the jamaat committee?
You futher go on to say," A copy of this
document is on file with the San Antonio Police Department". I hope this copy also mentions your undemocratic ways of running you community.
Sahab's appointment, Najwa amount, wazeefa, Salaam amount, Dress code,
our customs, masjid construction or year round proceedings of the Anjuman e Mohammadi are advised to seek alternatives and leave Anjuman e Mohammadi"
I thought that you lot lived in the worlds highest democracy.Have you forgotten you are living in USA?
Of course, those who are members HAVE to pay for the services, but why dont they have a say in day to day running and election of the jamaat committee?
You futher go on to say," A copy of this
document is on file with the San Antonio Police Department". I hope this copy also mentions your undemocratic ways of running you community.
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humble_servant_us
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Re: For Bohris, the month of Ramadhan is Waajebaat Ibadat -
From now on, such members are not welcome or invited in any of the Jamaat's activities, functions or gatherings including Namaaz.
How can a muslim even think of stopping someone from Namaz just for sake of money...
How can a muslim even think of stopping someone from Namaz just for sake of money...
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humble_servant_us
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Re: For Bohris, the month of Ramadhan is Waajebaat Ibadat -
Br. Practical,
Peace be upon you.
If you are in Mumbai/pune/indore region (india) and you think i can be a help to you pl. let me know. I would like to join you in your noble cause.
may allah(swt) help you.
hs
Peace be upon you.
If you are in Mumbai/pune/indore region (india) and you think i can be a help to you pl. let me know. I would like to join you in your noble cause.
may allah(swt) help you.
hs
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AFirmBeliever
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Re: For Bohris, the month of Ramadhan is Waajebaat Ibadat -
I THINK YOU ARE SLEEPING WHILE READING IT AS YOU DON'Y SEE "DAI" AS OUR GUIDANCE. sUNNI HAD NO LEADER AS SUCH AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE BECOME!
Originally posted by anajmi:
accty,
The bohras are not following a different religion. They are following the same religion hijacked by corrupt leaders.
I would suggest that you read the rest of the quran too and this time, please do not go to sleep while reading it.