Sahih Hadiths - If One leaves Islam, KILL him!

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Sahih Hadiths - If One leaves Islam, KILL him!

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Unread post by Guest » Fri Feb 22, 2002 9:08 pm

Why are sunni-wahabis afraid of people leaving Sunni-Islam that they have to hold this threat of death upon their head, and issue fatwa of Death when one is deemed to have left their pristrine madzab(creed):<p>If sunni Islam is so noble then let people criticise the basis of their faith or sunnah or hadeeths so, they know what they have been duped into believing:<p>Volume 9, Book 89, Number 271: <br>Narrated Abu Musa: <p>A man embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism. Mu'adh bin Jabal came and saw the man with Abu Musa. Mu'adh asked, "What is wrong with this (man)?" Abu Musa replied, "He embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism." Mu'adh said, "I will not sit down unless you kill him (as it is) the verdict of Allah and His Apostle <p>Volume 4, Book 52, Number 260: <br>Narrated Ikrima: <p>'Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' " <p>Volume 8, Book 82, Number 794:<br>Narrated Anas: <p>Some people from the tribe of 'Ukl came to the Prophet and embraced Islam. The climate of Medina did not suit them, so the Prophet ordered them to go to the (herd of milch) camels of charity and to drink, their milk and urine (as a medicine). They did so, and after they had recovered from their ailment (became healthy) they turned renegades (REVERTED from Islam) and killed the shepherd of the camels and took the camels away. The Prophet sent (some people) in their pursuit and so they were (caught and) brought, and the Prophets ordered that their hands and legs should be cut off and that their eyes should be branded with heated pieces of iron, and that their cut hands and legs should not be cauterized, till they die. <p>Volume 8, Book 82, Number 795: <br>Narrated Anas: <p>The Prophet cut off the hands and feet of the men belonging to the tribe of 'Uraina and did not cauterise (their bleeding limbs) till they died. <p>Volume 8, Book 82, Number 796: <br>Narrated Anas: <br>.. and when they asked for water to drink they were not given till they died<p>A Sunni scholar was asked to explain such a heavy penalty. His reply was:<br>'it is for their own good, for they do not know what they are doing'.

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Re: Sahih Hadiths - If One leaves Islam, KILL him!

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Unread post by Guest » Sat Feb 23, 2002 3:56 am

Hafeez,<p>Now I see the validity of these hadiths. These are for people like you, who are renegades and who with their misinformation and lies cause more harm to the true religion of Islam than non-muslims ever can. So yeah I agree with these hadiths. Such people should be killed.

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Re: Sahih Hadiths - If One leaves Islam, KILL him!

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Unread post by Guest » Sat Feb 23, 2002 12:16 pm

<br>Hafeez wrote: "If sunni Islam is so noble then let people criticise the basis of their faith or sunnah or hadeeths so, they know what they have been duped into believing:"<p>Nizari Ismali found heaven and converts in Indo-Pak region. They have prospered and, Nobdy has harmed them even though they are now out of 'pale of Islam'. May be they have not left Islam bacause they were not really in Islam?<p>BTW What do they celebrate?<p>They do not believe in Hujj, so there is no celebration of end of Hujj.<p>They do not believe in Ramadan so there is no celebration of end of Fasting.<p>So what are their holy-days?<p><p><br>

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Re: Sahih Hadiths - If One leaves Islam, KILL him!

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Unread post by Guest » Sun Feb 24, 2002 5:29 pm

muslim first aka akberally,<p>You explain this "insanity" of your beliefs by calling the nizaris -"out of the pale of islam". Similarly, the shias & sufis are kafirs! People in their right mind should run from the sunn-wahabi absue of Islam & its prophet!<p>The only way the nizari ismailis can promote & practise Islam as a faith that teaches compassion, tolerance and upholds human dignity is to REJECT what you all preach & believe. <p>Follow the sunnah and start 'drinking URINE' for your mental health, per Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Number 794 discussed above; Because no amount of namaz of hajj will absolve you and save you from the 'fire of hell of this earth & hereafter'.<p>

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Unread post by Guest » Sun Feb 24, 2002 10:05 pm

Hafeez,<p>Let us get to the basics. If you know, tell me why do you think the Sunnis attributed these things to the prophet?<p>Remember the Sunnis rever the prophet more than the Ismailis or the Bohris. Ismailis worship the Aga Khan who drinks wine bohris worship the dai.

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Re: Sahih Hadiths - If One leaves Islam, KILL him!

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Unread post by Guest » Sun Feb 24, 2002 10:08 pm

And again, I thought I was Akberally and not Muslim First. isn't that what you said? Do you take it back. By the way I am the one who kicked Ismaili ass.