The Key Aspects Of Supplication

[Muslim First]

The Key Aspects Of Supplication
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Bohras are used to ask dead people, Diais, Imams for favors and Mullaa Burahn Sahebs exhorts them to 'ask Hussain'

Agakhanis are always thinking Asking for something ' from their Hazir Imam
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[Gursevak]

Key Aspects of the Dua or Supplication Part 2 to be continued next month, insha'Allah

Part 2? Next month? Clearly too much to expect a muslim to understand so much in one go eh?

[turbocanuck]

gurupaaji, you are dealing with illiterate buffoons, who after living in the west for 40 years, still cannot spell. now you expect him to come up with his vitriole all in one go?? kya paaji....
Thats why i have named these 3 idiots..........Foot in Mouth, Anajma and Below Average Idiot...the...3 STONES!! Their grace and intellect has been inspired by the 3 STOOGES. but since they are the even more retarded variety of Sunni Wahhabis, 3 STONES is much appropriate name for the tag team combo. Now you will ask me what 3 STONES mean??
maybe Mr. Foot in Mouth will show you the Wahhabi relevance from some "guesswork" or maybe you can peruse the "guesswork" yourself.

[porus]

Brother Muslim First,

You can finally demonstrate that asking dead people for favors will not be answered. Demonstrate, with proofs, that all favors are from Allah and not dead people. And do not paste a link to Allah. He won't answer either.

And do not say Quran says so. That is not proof. And prove that when I got a gift yesterday, it wasn't because I prayed to the soul of my dead donkey to send me that gift.

Now, for something different. Thanks for posting a link to tell us how we should raise our hands in supplication etc. Bohras learned new things today. What an earth-shattering lesson!!

Can you tell us why some of your co-religionists spread their legs wide in saff of prayers with their feet touching those of their neighbors. An imam, with as much knowledge of Islam as you display on this board (which is almost nil), told me it s to prevent Shaytan coming between two muslims in prayer. I asked him why Shaytan would not choose to go between wide-spread legs. He said that it is hadith. Can you quote that hadith?

Would you go in presence of Rasul and stand with your legs wide open like you do in prayers? Why do it for Allah?

There is more than one question in this post. Can you handle them? I think not.

[Gursevak]

Porus - no chance of a response as the wahhabi mouthpieces quickly start another thread.

I issued a challenge to them here and MF did a runner from that thread

[Above Average Bohra]

porus,

Allow me to answer some of your questions. As far as proof about the gift from your dead donkey is concerned, there is none. You can continue asking your dead donkey for gifts.

Now as far as spreading the legs are concerned, the hadith simply states that stand close to each other so that the shaytan doesn't get between you. The spreading of legs so that they are touching is one of the derivatives. Now for you to ask the question that you asked, being an expert on all the baatin stuff, must've been pretty difficult to do. When one needs to pretend to be stupid, it takes a lot of effort.

[pardesi]

"Porus - no chance of a response as the wahhabi mouthpieces quickly start another thread."

Or have the admin close this one out like they did some other.

[turbocanuck]

Porus
There is some light shed on the Salafis(wahhabis) requirements during sufoof. the Ahadith is also in the link provided. hope that helps.
Turbo
http://books.themajlis.net/node/17

[porus]

Thanks for the link, turbocanuck. See how the cancer of ignorance has spread from jaahil wahhabis to our own salafi/wahhabis on this board. They perpetuate the myth of shaytan coming between the worshippers.

All this bullshit about keeping the saff straight cannot obviously apply to Baytullah, where lines go around the Kaaba. Yet, you will see their Imam shouting "istawuu" before he starts surat fatiha, without bismillah. These jaahils do not know that bismaillah is the first ayat of surat fatiha. And it is Rasulullah's firmaan to start every other ayat or sura with bismillah.

Your link just complains that a worshopper offering prayers individually should not have to spread his legs. He accepts the jaahil interpretation of "foot-to-foot", whereas it refers to brotherhood of worshippers.

Such is the brainwashing of these wahhabi dupes. And they come here to teach us Islam!!

[Gursevak]

When one needs to pretend to be stupid, it takes a lot of effort

How would you know that - read it in some religious literature? You don't need to pretend ; you are stupid! And nutter see the semi-colon before you jump to wrong conclusions. Never mind - you got your schooling in a madrassa

[turbocanuck]

Porus, you are absolutely right. They leave no stone unturned to deride other's faiths.They constantly play these "holier than thou" idiots. Just look at their posts. Whatever THEY feel is right, is right for others. AND they play the judge and jury like some godforsaken Mullah of some Godforsaken place on earth. Total Jaahil.
Reminds me of a time when i went to a Soccer stadium in London a while ago. As i approached the stadium i saw some illiterate Goondas with their customary looks blabbering by themselves with some hate literature. No one was paying attention to them. just ignoring them. So i greeted them with the polite "A S". They had stars in their eyes. they started to preach on the sidewalk how much of a "kaafir" i was to be attending the stadium. "you are worshipping idols". with a straight face i told him where to go. They could not believe what i said.
Now Porus tell me what kind of mindset is that? how miserable do you have to be? What kind of indoctrination must these thugs be getting? Imagine the lives of their womenfolk at home. STIFLING!! to say the least.
As far as i am concerned. my relation with God is my own. My faith is my OWN. No one can tell me wha tto do. if i err I will pay the price. If i have done something good, i will reap the sawabs. Everyone who dies will have their OWN accounts to settle. when i die i will have my own, when these Wahhabis die they will have their own.
Have you noticed when i have my postings? i am actually blasting their HYPOCRISY, exposing their double standards, and the response i usually get is in the defence of the Wahhabi cruelty. I guess there is nothing you can do when cursed to being a Jaahil. Each to his own...

[Above Average Bohra]

porus,

No need to get excited. If you had read my post, it clearly states not to interpret the hadith literally (it was a tongue in cheek way of saying it but you missed it). Spreading of legs was simply a derivative. Just like licking salt is. Also, are you saying that you cannot stand foot to foot in a circle? You aren't that stupid are you?

Now I am not sure what mosque you have visited, but every mosque that I visit, the surahs all start with Bismillah, although bismillah is spoken softly. How do I know this, because once, one jaahil Amil who was taught by the Syedna told me that "E loko ni bismillah to shaitan lai gayo", so I went and asked the Imam of some of the mosques I prayed in and they all say Bismillah but softly, if you are standing in the first saf, and listening, you can hear it. Some say it loudly too.

So stop spreading your bullshit. You have been called out more than once.

[Above Average Bohra]

Now as far as teaching you Islam is concerned, you definitely need some teaching. For someone to claim knowledge of Islam and then ask a muslim to produce proof that a dead donkey didn't send you a gift just shows how much knowledge of Islam you have. And here is more "proof" of you knowledge of Islam

And do not paste a link to Allah. He won't answer either.....And do not say Quran says so. That is not proof.

My kid has a better understanding than this.

[Gursevak]

My </B>kid

So very nice of you to have adopted - I asked in another thread where did the kids come from remember?

[porus]

they all say Bismillah but softly

Why? Afraid Saudis will stop funding the mosque??

There has got to be a Wahhabi hadith about saying Bismillah softly!!

[Muslim First]

Br. Porus

AA

Please read comment 1 after Translation of 1.1 by Md. Asad

[1] According to most of the authorities, this invocation (which occurs at the beginning of every surah with the exception of surah 9) constitutes an integral part of "The Opening" and is, therefore, numbered as verse I. In all other instances, the invocation "in the name of God" precedes the surah as such, and is not counted among its verses.

I have same experience in Masajid’s in Boston. There are prayer leaders who do not pronounce ‘Bismillah’ loudly and there are some who do it.

I personally do pronounce it loudly when I lead Magrib prayers in my office. (In summer we do not have magrib prayer in my office). I do not pronounce it loudly when I am reading Ayas after Al-Fateha. I say bismillah softly and read a short sura or at least 3 (like 2:284-286) Ayas from other Sura, Ayat-ul- Kursi is one exception.
Wasalaam
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[Above Average Bohra]

porus,

Try not to behave like Ismailis when you are left with nothing to say.

[Above Average Bohra]

In the 3rd and the 4th rakats of salaah, the entire surah is recited softly, even by the shias. Unfortunately, the kufffar who are pretending to be shia probably don't know that either.

[Muslim First]

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Br.Anajmi

Allow me to add:

In 3rd and 4th only Al-fateha is recited.

Wasalaam
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[turbocanuck]

Porus.you've got mail....
cheers

[Gursevak]

porus,

Try not to behave like Ismailis when you are left with nothing to say.

That is wahhabi-speak for "Don't do the decent thing, waffle on, quote non-existent traditions, anything but do have the last word"

Porus I am sure you understand the sub 70 hoping for 72 much better