A Question For Admin

[Gursevak]

Admin Saheb,

As the sole arbiter you are of course the judge, the jury and the executioner and no one is denying your rights but so that we have some idea of where you draw the lines can you please explain on what criteria you close topics?

There are topics where the language and the personal attacks on Shia leaders would in any other groups be considered totally unacceptable but which here are left open and unedited. And then there are topics which are clearly leading towards a critical examination of Sunni/Wahhabi beliefs which are closed even before the number of posts have got into 2 digits!

You have the option to bar some users, not to allow this topic or worse but in the interests of fair play (a doctrine from which muslims one would hope are not exempt) can you at least make your stand clear.

Thank you

[Admin]

Gurusevak,

First off, we do not have the time to go through each and every post in every topic. Through our random check if we come across a thread with abusive posts, pointless tit-for-tat and constant name-calling we feel inclined to close that thread - no matter what the topic is. Our decision is never guided by any shia/wahabi bias, but if you seem to detect one, then it's an unfortunate coincidence.

Second, we hope to be more consistent and diligent in our approach, and believe us we're a reluctant judge, jury and executioner. We'd rather not close or edit any topic. You all contributors can help us do that by being civil to each other. If you all stopped calling each other retards and idiots like immature schoolboys, and got more interested in debating a topic rather than insulting each other then we'd not feel the need to exercise our arbitrary authority.

[Above Average Bohra]

boo hoo hoo hoo, mummy mummy, admin closed my thread boo hoo hoo, I hate him I hate him boo hoo hoo.

[Gursevak]

Thank you for responding. Let's hope the "co-incidences" even out. As for retards, morons etc I would like to believe that there are only two posters who resort to that - the rest have far more subtle and sophisticated insults; sometimes so subtle that the victim does not even get it!

[Gursevak]

boo hoo hoo hoo, mummy mummy, admin closed my thread boo hoo hoo, I hate him I hate him boo hoo hoo.

Any insult would be too sophisticated for the sub-70 hoping to get the 72! The threads closed were not started by me - I had the final posts in 2 of them! Can you still not tell who started the thread? You see the column header topic starter - oh forget it too difficult to explain to you!

[Muslim First]

As for retards, morons etc I would like to believe that there are only two posters who resort to that - the rest have far more subtle and sophisticated insults; sometimes so subtle that the victim does not even get it!

For the record I did search using word " retards "

Now check out who used word retards?
Not the 'two poster'

Now look at ' Moron' Search

In first forum Br. Anajmi uses word 'Americal moron'

In second forum Br. AC writes 'Arabs are moron'

In third fourm Br. Anajmi writes

Iraq and Afghanistan anyone?????? It's a good thing I am not wasting as much of my time with morons as I used to.

In 4th one Br. Anajmi refers to 'Average moron' and I believe not to any one of the 'Three'.

5th one refers to 'Average American Morons'

6th

refers to Arab Leauge

7th refers to

'They should teach their children to worship Lord Sharon like the morons in America do.'

I can't help repeating:

boo hoo hoo hoo, mummy mummy, admin closed my thread boo hoo hoo, I hate him I hate him boo hoo hoo.

Wasalaam and Ya Allah Madad to the 'Three'

[Gursevak]

Now this is a topic that can be closed!

As for the Echo (or is that a wahhabi fart? Sorry admin!)we will cross swords on other topics especially as regards mummy. Remember I am still waiting for the true muslim interpretation of the chapter on menses.

[Muslim First]

As for the Echo ( or is that a wahhabi fart? Sorry admin!)we will cross swords on other topics especially as regards mummy. Remember I am still waiting for the true muslim interpretation of the chapter on menses.

I do not see any need for discussion with you my friend

Peace
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[pardesi]

"For the record I did search using word " retards "

Now check out who used word retards?
Not the 'two poster'

Now look at ' Moron' Search"

Good work MF. Now lets search the word "idiot". It will be interesting. Hope it was just an oversight.

You had all this time to search out words to defend your buddy but did not have time to help me find an ayah I asked for?

[pardesi]

"For the record I did search using word " retards "

Now check out who used word retards?
Not the 'two poster'

Now look at ' Moron' Search"

Good work MF. Now lets search the word "idiot". It will be interesting. Hope it was just an oversight.

You had all this time to search out words to defend your buddy but did not have time to help me find an ayah I asked for?

[Muslim First]

Br. Pardesi

Ya Allah Madad

I did try to search it in 'Ginans (Agakhani Tafsir of Qur'an) and 'Farmans'
Could not find it. Sorry

Let me know when you find it and please include interpretation by your demiGod MHI.

Ya Allah Madad again
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[Muslim First]

Br. Pardesi
Y Allah M

I did find this interesting verse of Holy Ginans of Aga Khani religion.

ejee paratak paatra ne parkhee ne, preme pujonee paay chauda bhraahmann no e dhannee, paragat chhe jugmaa(n)he.....1

Having recognised the Manifest Form (of divinity, i.e Imam of the time), worship Him with love. He is indeed the Master of the fourteen universes (seven outer heavens and seven inner worlds) and is physically present in this age.

BTW I do respect Nizari Ismaili religion.
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[mumineen]

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- the site is free of any monetary subscriptions i.e.FREE. The ADMIN who we believe is/was a professional journalist and who pays for it voluntarily. The Kothari site is presumably subidised/sponsored by Kothar and or it's henchmen
- unlike the Kothari e-mail site, the e-mail from the contributors are NOT censored except occcasionally for porn, expletives, libel and slander - we think!

[pardesi]

Originally posted by Muslim First:

"Br. Pardesi
Ya Allah Madad
I did try to search it in 'Ginans (Agakhani Tafsir of Qur'an) and 'Farmans'
Could not find it. Sorry"

Well brother when searching for the Ayat of Quran it would help if you start with the Quran and not other places.

Normally the Quranic verses are on your fingertips. Are you telling me that you could not find the Ayat I asked for? Are you telling me you dont know if that Ayat is in the Quran or not?

I think you do not want to help me find it because you know where I am going with that. Nevermind, I will find it myself or with someone else's help and then we will talk about it. AND YES MF IT IS IN THE QURAN - I HAVE READ IT, JUST CANT REMEMBER WHICH SURAH. You are really good with your dance.

A question comes to mind though. Your failure to know of the ayat in question makes me wonder if you actually know your whole Quran by heart. There is no shame in not knowing it by heart but I am sure you have read it and if you have then is it fair to say that your memory failed you just like me? In that case you are not better muslim than me, are you?

[Gursevak]

I do not see any need for discussion with you my friend

Peace

Firstly congratulations - sparring with the non-wahhabis has improved your cognitive powers!

Why are you afraid of discussions - scared the truth may burst the bubble?

There is one important giveaway about the muslim psyche in this thread but as that would be diverting away from the title I shall come back to it elsewhere.

And peace to you - for now before the fireworks begin

[Muslim First]

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Br Pardesi

Y Allah M

You post any Aya you want to discuss. It will also help if you post MHI's interpretation with it. Then we will discuss it.

Normally the Quranic verses are on your fingertips. Are you telling me that you could not find the Ayat I asked for? Are you telling me you dont know if that Ayat is in the Quran or not?

Thank you for generous compliments. No Qur’anic verses are not on my fingertips. Actually they are in Muslim Holy Book called Qur’an.

I think you do not want to help me find it because you know where I am going with that.

NO I do not know where you are going. I am not clairvoyant like your demigod MHI who knows all about their spiritual children.

Your failure to know of the ayat in question makes me wonder if you actually know your whole Quran by heart.

Congratulations. You are very perceptive.

In that case you are not better muslim than me, are you?

I am practicing Muslim. Ismailis are not Muslims since they do not observe Salat, Fasting and do not perform Hajj. They also believe in ‘Farmans’ which they believe trumps Qur'an and Sunnah. See this about their religious belief. We have been there before and no need to rehash.

Now I have a question:

Did you ever read Turbo's post in this locked Forum?

He started out saying this:

talk is that this was an abusive husband who used to pulverise his illiterate wife......And one day.....KABBOOM!! Meet Allah..this Pig got what he deserved from his downtrodden wife. so when he was about to meet his maker, he SQUEALED like a PIG!! and ran around blabbering Gods name before he fell.One less piece of $hit. Many more to go.

He refers to follwing article and I am going to post it here so you everybody can read:
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Horror of ‘ball of flames’ man
By Samrana Hussain
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SHELTER: It is believed the man set himself on fire in a shelter in the nearby Victoria Park, before staggering into Carr Road.
RESIDENTS have told of their horror as a "charred" man screamed for help in the road in the early hours of the morning.

People in Carr Road, Nelson, were woken up to the screams of a 28-year-old man who police said died from his injuries after setting fire to himself at 5am yesterday.

Witnesses said his body was so badly burnt his hands were stuck to his arms.

The man, of Iraqi origin, was pronounced dead after being taken to the Royal Blackburn Hospital with 90 percent burns.

Police said the death is not being treated as suspicious.

It is believed he set himself on fire in a shelter in the nearby Victoria Park, before staggering into Carr Road.

The man, who neighbours said was naked with deep cuts to his legs, screamed out for help before knocking on the doors of a number of houses.

When police arrived at the scene after neighbours phoned in reports, the man was lying down in the road screaming in pain.

The road was closed for several hours as police examined the scene.

A resident of Carr Road, who did not want to be named, said the man had been shouting for help while knocking on people's doors before laying down in the road.

He said: "It was horrific. He was it was like a charred corpse.

"When I first heard the shouts I thought it was a drunken person, but then I heard him say Yah Allah' and I knew he was a Muslim so he could not be a drunk.

"When I got outside he was lying on the ground and the police were asking him his name.

"He was in such a bad state.

"I couldn't tell if he was black or white.

"I covered him with a blanket and he was saying something in broken English including some names.

"I just want his family to know that his last words were prayers to Allah."

Shagufta Tahir, also of Carr Road, a 45-year-old-housewife, said she was woken by his screams in the morning.

She said: "He was saying Allah and Mohammed and then he was just screaming. I don't think I will ever forget it.

"We all came running down the stairs and went outside and the police were already outside."

Insp Derek Jones said police were speaking to the man's family members and that the incident was not being treated as suspicious.

He said: "At this stage it appears to be a tragic incident where a man has taken his own life.

"We have detectives from Pendle conducting inquiries with a view to preparing a file to pass to the coroner and a post-mortem will be carried out in due course.

"We are not looking for anyone else in relation to this incident."

Newsagent Rukhsar Khaliq, who runs a nearby shop called police after spotting the man.

He said: "I was opening up the shop at 5am when I heard the shouts.

"Thinking it was a drunken man or someone on drugs I called the police.

"He was shouting help me please' again and again and I thought maybe someone had hit him."

Brian Denny, a paper delivery man who was waiting for Mr Khaliq to open the shop The 69-year-old of Pendle Street, Nelson said: "There was a big black object staggering around on the road and I thought it was just a bag of rubbish."

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Now it appears that this is a sad story of a mentally sick person who set himself on fire.Do you see any reference to what Turbo calls ---that this was an abusive husband who used to pulverise his illiterate wife......?

Did your Ismaili Brother lied?

Does your MHI teach you to lie to score points? Or it is inherited trait from the days of Hasan Sabah and assassins?

Ya Allah Madad

[Gursevak]

Does your MHI teach you to lie to score points? Or it is inherited trait from the days of Hasan Sabah and assassins?

No more like learnt from bukhari and aisha! this is heading my way - can we please move this to another topic? I would dearly love to demonstrate from your own books the contradictions in sunnah.

[Gursevak]

talk is that this was an abusive husband who used to pulverise his illiterate wife

See the words in bold? The writer is adding to the article not extracting from it but to anyone steeped in the bukhari tradition this would not be obvious.

[Muslim First]

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I would dearly love to demonstrate from your own books the contradictions in sunnah.

My friend you can play with yourseves to your hearts content.

Peace
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[Gursevak]

My friend you can play with yourseves to your hearts content

Confusing me with mataji are you?

As for me, I will just quote from brother bhukha as and when I feel like it although I will, not being a muslim and therefore having been taught about other people's sensitivities, avoid offending the majority.

[turbocanuck]

dear Retard Forever,
IF you understand english, which i doubt you do considering the 1st graders errors in your daily rubbish, you will find that i wrote "talk is that..." Now do you want me to post "talk"?? i can repost "talk" from blogs if you want. But you are too retarded to know.

[Gursevak]

Turbo,

I had already made that point - leave this sitting duck for me, you can have sub 70.

Have you read the chapter on menses in bhukha for fame's final novel?

[turbocanuck]

Guru Paaji, tusi woh kitab di suni? koi Jamaican mullah hai jo kitab likhisi....
"100 Fabricated Hadiths"

I have the index somewhere about the fabricated hadiths. will post it as soon as i find it.

[Above Average Bohra]

Talk is that his wife was an Ismaili and used to abuse him, hence he committed suicide.

[Above Average Bohra]

Talk is that she was having an affair with a turbo ghilman and a turban ghilman at the same time.

[pardesi]

/BPosted by MF, (Mullah Forever, mentally that is)

"Does your MHI teach you to lie to score points? Or it is inherited trait from the days of Hasan Sabah and assassins?"

Posted by Sub 70,

"Talk is that she was having an affair with a turbo ghilman and a turban ghilman at the same time."/B

MF,

Does your question apply only to Ismailis or to your co-believer also?

As for Hassan bin Sabah, could you be a little more specific in your statement. I might be willing to give you a head start on this. Study all the books you can find on Hassan and then start a new thread.

Lets have something meaningful. Shall we?

[Muslim First]

Br. Pardesi
Ya Allah Madad

Lets have something meaningful. Shall we?

Could you just show me where in sory it says "talk is that this was an abusive husband who used to pulverise his illiterate wife......And one day.....KABBOOM!!---"
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[pardesi]

MF,

You're losing it. That is not what we were talking about. Please redirect your last post to Turbo or Sevak.

[Above Average Bohra]

Bro Muslim First,

I need to have a private discussion with you regarding the Ismailis. Please send me an email on IKickIsmailiButt@wahhabi.com

[turbocanuck]

Dear Below Average Ghilman,
How did you know i was ----ing one of your Sunni sisters lately. If you would like to know what "dirty" talk this babe has when ----ing. oh God!! let me know and i will post for everyone to see.