TERROR ATTACKS IN MUMBAI

[Danish]

Just watching the CNN and Fox news as the reports are being revealed. Very heart-sobbing and horrific !

[anajmi]

When was the last time CNN and Fox covered terrorist attacks that kill dozens within Iraq almost every week?

[znanwalla]

This must be Najmi's cult funded terrorism ! Now he is whining !...does not even show remorse !...zn

[anajmi]

znan uses the death of innocents in mumbai to score points against anajmi. What a shameless Ismaili!!

[znanwalla]

but you showed no remorse at all ! go back and reading your stupid comments...is this the time to compare with what happens elsewhere ? you shameless pit latrine dumbo !...zn

[anajmi]

And again the shameless Ismaili uses death of innocents to score points against anajmi. What a pathetic loser. No remorse for the suffering of the innocents of Mumbai. What a shame!!

[jawanmardan]

All very worrying because it seems this may be a native home grown indian terrorist group.

The attack was audacious at around 10.30pm on Wednesday grenades were thrown at Mumbai’s Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus railway station. Men were shown shooting randomly at pedestrians as they drove through nearby streets in a stolen police jeep, then a bomb was reported to have exploded in a taxi parked by the airport. Two hotels were then stormed the Taj Mahal and the Trident Oberoi as well as Café Leopold, the gunman arrived in a dingy to the Taj.

There seems little doubt that these attacks were orchestrated by Muslims of some description, the question is if militants received "outside help" to orchestrate these attacks, or whether they are entirely home grown. Challenging times ahead.

[anajmi]

jawanmardan,

There seems little doubt that these attacks were orchestrated by Muslims of some description

I am not too sure about that. Blaming muslims for everything is the norm of the day. Hindus have shown that they are capable of terrorism just as much as any muslim. So have the christians and the jews. Have you ever wondered why every muslim terrorist attack has the exact opposite effect of what the news media says the terrorists wanted?

[jawanmardan]

anajmi,

The evidence seems to suggest they are Muslim. Although the specifics of their organization remains in question.

There are many conflict zones in the world; however Islam currently seems to have far more violent extremists then any other faith, that is something Muslims have to accept to be in a position to tackle them.

[anajmi]

jawanmardan,

The evidence that you gave was simply a man shouting out loud to release all Mujahideen and let Muslims be. That is hardly any evidence at all. Ofcourse, in today's world that is more than sufficient evidence to convict the muslim ummah!!

[anajmi]

It is being claimed that these were highly coordinated attacks against foreigners. Not a single American or Israeli has been reported killed in this highly co-ordinated attack.

[znanwalla]

Looks like the work of Muslim terrorist of the Obsession fame ! evidence shows their hallmark !...the cult to which some of these folks belong.....what a shame !...zn

[anajmi]

I think it was an Ismaili pretending to be a muslim. Only an Ismaili would be that stupid. AHAHHAHAHAHHAH!!!

[znanwalla]

You will know soon pal ! the person who laughs last will laugh the longest ! just wait ! see how you get battered ! then you will know what I am saying?.....the majority of the idiots who attacked America were also from your cult ! and you are boasting like a criminal boasts...zn

[znanwalla]

Coordinated attacks across Mumbai, India’s financial capital, which have killed up to a hundred people and injured hundreds more, are likely to be blamed on a terrorist organization linked to the Pakistani ISI, providing further justification for controversial U.S. bombings inside Pakistani territory and heightened rhetoric against Pakistan .

Looks like a Second 9/11 !

This group, the "Deccan Muhajedeen" (sounds like a sports team, like Cleveland Indians or Cincinnati Pirates) appears from nowhere with a large force, fully automatic weapons, grenades, and intelligence resources on the scale of a nation state.

FOX News and CNN are now both reporting that the "terrorists" who took hostages at the Oberoi hotel were specifically seeking people with US and British passports. So, regardless of whatever the "Deccan Muhajedeen" claims their objective may be, the real agenda is to provoke a British and US response....the question then is, against whom?

As usual, a "never before heard of" group is claiming responsibility. FOX News is also reporting that the "terrorists" at the tourist hotel were specifically searching for people with American passports.

A MILITANT holed up inside Mumbai's Oberoi Hotel said that seven attackers were holding hostages inside the luxury establisment.

"There are seven of us inside hotel Oberoi," the man identified as Sahadullah told India TV.

For several years now, senior officials of the American administration have intimated, in no certain terms, that there will be "a Second 9/11".

This has Al Qeda written all over it. According to the Television report I heard, the terrorists where looking for Westerners and, specifically, Americans in the attack.

British security and intelligence sources said there had been increasing concern, particularly in the United States, that a “terrorist spectacular” was on the cards.

Will this then now provide justification for bombings inside Pakistani territory and heightened rhetoric against Pakistan - even a possible attack !

The game is clear and sinister. People have now diverted the global attention towards another issue where they would blame Pakistan for this slaughter and use doctrine of attacks on Pakistan to encircle Pakistan from both sides. . I hope I am wrong !


There is no such group in India as Daccan Mujahideen. ...so who are they?

In the coming days, Pakistan should prepare for a high risk threat response as folks would go to any limit to open another front against Pakistan to divert the local and world attention from their internal fascist elements .

May Allah protect Pakistan from all enemies including the obsessionist cult that exists in our midst here.

zn

[ghulam muhammed]

The simplest way by which the Indian politicians shrug off their responsibilities is by blaming Pakistan for any terror attack in India. People like Advani have only one stereotyped reply since years together that "padosi mulk ka kaam hai". One wouldnt be surprised if when Advani has loose motions he will blame it on Pakistan by saying "Yeh to ISI ka haath hai". Although there is evidence of Pakistan sponsored terrorism in India particularly in Kashmir but then these people blame every single event on Pakistan only. This way they hit 2 birds with 1 stone i.e. put the blame on someone else and secondly strengthen their hindutva image by widening the divide between hindu/muslims because Advani is an active RSS cadre and the world at large is aware of their immense hatred towards muslim community. Furthermore Advani's birthplace is Sind in Pakistan and he I believe is one of the numerous refugees who had to flee pakistan during partition due to which he has lifelong grudge against that country and muslims.

[Danish]

Anajmi (and others), the attacks on Mumbai has nothing to do with Ismailies or Agha Khan, so please refrain from derogatory irrelevant posts.

[znanwalla]

Ghulambhai....sometimes I feel the truth is that the biggest enemy of Islam is
the Muslims themselves, because they have relinquished all decency in dealing with others, as well as the courage to oppose oppression..both within and without !......reminds me again and again of what Allah and the Prophet (peace be on him) advised muslims....

How many prisoners are locked up in Muslim prisons for their opinions,
ideas, and cultural identity? Is it in the spirit of Islam that Muslims
are fleeing their homeland for 'heretical' countries in order to attain
security and live in dignity?... zn

[ghulam muhammed]

Ghulambhai....sometimes I feel the truth is that the biggest enemy of Islam is
the Muslims themselves,

George Bernard Shaw once said "Islam is the best religion but muslims are the worst followers". I think he rightly hit us below the belt because this is exactly what we are seeing around us. With due respect to some, I feel that the biggest enemies of muslims are the so called certain mullahs and self styled religous leaders who are continously injecting heavy doses of poison in the minds of their followers against people of the same ummah just to increase the numbers of their clan and rule over them, exploit them and make money. The urgent need of the hour is to UNITE the ummah which sadly no one wants to do. There are innumerable sects and sub sects which makes it more difficult to please Allah swt and Rasul Allah s.a.w. i.e. to create a single united ummah.

[anajmi]

brother GM,

That George Bernard Shaw piece that you quoted is simply propaganda against the muslims. Because Muslims are the worst followers it now becomes ok for the world and other Hindu/Jew supporting muslims like the Ismailis to blame the muslims for everything bad that happens anywhere. And then they can still say that they are not attacking Islam but just terrorist muslims, just to please their muslim slaves and M&Ms (Moderate Muslims).

George Bernard Shaw might've hit you below the belt but not me. There will always be idiots that will follow all kinds of crap. Ismailis are also a similar example. So are muslims that will kill innocents in the name of Islam and Americans that kill innocents in the name of spreading freedom and democracy. Today there are a lot of muslims that will blame the muslims first. If muslims keep blaming muslims, then how are the muslims to unite?

[anajmi]

The only way to unite the Muslim Ummah is to follow the quran and the sunnah of the prophet. Not the hidden quran, mind you, since that is hidden. Those that follow this hidden quran, can never be a part of the muslim ummah.

[turbocanuck]

Today there are a lot of muslims that will blame the muslims first. If muslims keep blaming muslims, then how are the muslims to unite?

By picking up arms and massacring Innocents and the infidels en-masse!!A La Filthy Murderous Hadith

[jawanmardan]

I don't think this is an appropriate time, nor thread to start the Isma'ili-Wahabi diatribe. These people are Islamic extremists who follow a violent twisted interpretation of our faith, and ought to be confronted by all Muslims in a united front.

My sympathies are with all the victims of the attack, whether, Hindu, Muslim, Jewish. And my concern is for the communal damage that this has caused in multi-cultural India which was no doubt an aim of this attack. Terrorism seeks to divide people, and plant the seeds of mistrust. We ought to react with reason and rise above.

[znanwalla]

Everything must be wrong with everyone else except Najmi and his terrorist cult .....all that occurs in this world, is the fault of the Jews, the West, Capitalism, the Sufis, the Shia, and everything else under the sun.

It is never the fault of this lousy third class cult !.....the truth is that there are plenty of crazies like Najmi amongst us, and that we are not dealing with them sufficiently ....they ought to now be dealt with decisively notwithstanding the grovelling offered by these brazen folks amidst our humanity......zn

[znanwalla]

Ghulambhai...What Bernard Shaw said is absolutely correct and I agree - we are our biggest enemies today !......Najmi wants us to follow the "sunnah" of his cult which he calls "Prophet's Sunnah" just the way he calls his interpolated texts as Allah's Book ! How naive ?

He has not been able to convince me if they even follow the Prophet's Sunnah, to begin with - he has not been able to answer most of my questions...OUR Holy prophet would never allow such heinous crimes against humanity.....so it is clear these criminals don't belong to the Umma of Muhamad (peace be on him) ...

Once when Sheikh Hamza Yusuf dared express sorrow for the loss of non-muslim lives, he was loudly excoriated by a segment of this "great" community of good muslims that feels it is somehow offensive to their God to mourn the loss of good people only because they are NOT Muslims.......even when Prophet Muhamad said that Moses and Jesus was related to him...so obviously this cult is not even Islamic, to begin with....they simply make false claims !...zn

[Aarif]

JM,

You also need to offer your sympathies to the palestinians and Iraqis. Because they are also human beings. Do you know that 95% of the Iraqis killed by US soldiers assuming that they were insurgents were actually not insurgents. Only 5% of the 100% people killed were insurgents. And what are the American soldiers trying to protect from these insurgents??? I was watching on CNN the Mumbai story live where the Americans were portraying a very gory picture of terrorists who have killed around 150 people. This is exactly what they have been doing for last 15 years. Every time come up with a new frame muslims as terrorists and than go and attack Islamic oil rich countries... Afcourse I do sympathize with the victims as much as anybody else but the debate out here is who is responsible for all this??? I would try to practically analize the situation rather than going by CNN or other media tools who very cleverly blame everything on Muslims...

[znanwalla]

Ghulambhai....We have to firmly and without any reservations reject the rhetoric of extremism and invalidate its sources ...In the seven years since 9/11 happened, I have never heard much sentiment or sorrow expressed for these people amongst the good and "pious" Muslims like Najmi and his pals....so it is clear they are the extremists with potentialities that I have been suspecting all along....and so we need to expose them ...all lives must be valued as Allah has said that to "save a life" is to have 'save humanity" and HE - the Exalted does not make any distinctions here by saying to "save a muslim life".....ofcourse I know that these folks don't know the Quran ....but at least we know it and so should act according to the Prophet's sunnah and NOt some man made concoctions of a cult that is in contradiction with Islam and whatever islam stands for !...zn

[Aarif]

ZN,

Generally I don't read your posts and hence do not reply to them. But when you are talking about 9/11 remember that 7 years back the American govt had all the sympathy from every other nation in the world. After 7 years it has all fizzeled out because now the people know what the truth is... The biggest benefactor from 9/11 terrorists attack was US itself. Actually now they have run out of these sorry excuses and trying to create some more. And by reading your posts it looks like they are pretty successful in achieving their goals

[jawanmardan]

Aarif,
I offer my sympathies to everyone who suffers any form of injustice, and I always will. I was a university activist and organizer protesting the Iraqi Invasion, and no one felt the bitter disappointment of our failure to prevent war more than I. I have worked with a Palestinian Charity and have been to the west bank, I've seen first hand Israeli abuses.

Recognizing that the Islamic world has a problem with terrorist ideology does not detract from the injustices we may feel in other parts of the world, that the sort of attacks we see in Bagdad, NYC, Kabul, London, or Mumbai are morally unjustifiable, and do absolutely nothing for the cause of Islam. in fact they set the cause of Palestinans and Iraqis back.

Aarif,

Don't you find it telling that Muslims in Darfur who are being ethnically cleansed by fellow Muslims is not condemned by Muslims in nearly the same way? How many Iraqis have been killed in sectarian bombings? I could go on sadly.

[jawanmardan]

Just watching the CNN and Fox news

Danish watching Fox news is seldom a good idea. Unless one wants to observe a parody journalism.